Greg.......... you gonna have one of these in the new house?

[camcojb]

http://www.chonday.com/Videos/parking-lamborghini-sky-garage-singapore


:idea:

[Firebirdsteve]

:omg:

[GregWeld]

No! I can't afford Lamborghini's.... you'll have to ask SW!

[Sieg]

I wonder how long it takes to get that car out of the park.........then onto a road you can enjoy it on?

[protour73]

Better hope that building never suffers even a small earthquake or a power outage!!

[Stuart Adams]

Thats wild. The condos sell for 9-24 mill each.

[GregWeld]

I'm doing my new house the old fashioned way --- drive up the street --- turn around in the cul d sac... and back into the shed (4300 sq feet).... The only thing mechanical in there, should be me. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

With a 25 X 14' door -- and 16' high finished ceiling - it will take in my 34' 3 car stacker -- and the toterhome.... and leave me plenty of shop space! The cleaning system is a push broom... the tools rarely used but I'm learning.




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Sun%20Valley/file-30.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Sun%20Valley/file-30.jpg.html)

[protour73]

I'm trying to catch up on current events....so Greg, you are moving from the Pacific NW to Sun Valley and making that your permanent home?

What a beautiful piece of terra firma!! How big is that parcel of land?

I'm doing my new house the old fashioned way --- drive up the street --- turn around in the cul d sac... and back into the shed (4300 sq feet).... The only thing mechanical in there, should be me. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

With a 25 X 14' door -- and 16' high finished ceiling - it will take in my 34' 3 car stacker -- and the toterhome.... and leave me plenty of shop space! The cleaning system is a push broom... the tools rarely used but I'm learning.




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Sun%20Valley/file-30.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Sun%20Valley/file-30.jpg.html)

[GregWeld]

Scott --- the lot is #8 in "White Clouds" development in Sun Valley... it's 1.6 acres. The development (if that's what you'd call it) is alongside the White Clouds golf course here in Sun Valley. Most folks don't know that The Sun Valley Corporation owns or runs just about everything here... They did this "plat" in 2008 and it was a complete flop of course - given the housing crash. We'll be the second home started out of 30 lots. We hope it stays empty. LOL

Yes -- we're moving here. We have a small condo now - and are here for a few months at a time now. We'll move permanently when our house in Bellevue sells - but we won't put that for sale until this spring. We want to be here for construction and that is scheduled to take 18 months or so. They'll break ground as early as the snow will let them. The sight is 6272' feet in elevation... so snow is a possibility! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


The house build has been dubbed -- The Garagemahal....since the requirement for parking the semi inside was part of the "if I can't do that I'm not buying here" deal. This is all custom building/builders/design etc... so as long as the land owners (The Sun Valley Corp) would agree that was okay -- we were good to go. The truck needs to be inside due to the cold weather - the amount of snow - and I like to keep it clean and warm... and of course... NOBODY can live without a shop space of some kind.

[GregWeld]

Just because...



Here's some of the very preliminary layouts of the house -- and the house on the lot. There's been a ton of changes since these were drawn up...






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/WeldResidenceLandscapePlan2.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/WeldResidenceLandscapePlan2.jpg.html)








http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Elevations1.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Elevations1.jpg.html)





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Views-LivingDiningFamily.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Views-LivingDiningFamily.jpg.html)

[Wissing72]

:trophy-1302:
Wholly crap!!! That looks amazing. I like the plans, looks like it will be a dream home for sure. You have to love the H.O.A. rules. But if you want to keep the neighbors down to a minimum, just buy the lots next to you.... LOL

[GregWeld]

:trophy-1302:
Wholly crap!!! That looks amazing. I like the plans, looks like it will be a dream home for sure. You have to love the H.O.A. rules. But if you want to keep the neighbors down to a minimum, just buy the lots next to you.... LOL




You just pipe down!!



I have enough trouble with my wife...

[out2kayak]

For the kind of money they are asking for those condos, give me many acres (forested) with access to a lake and a cabin with a mechanical shed (metal lathe, CNC, mill, etc.).

Put my happy rear in the middle and I'd be a happy camper.

[GregWeld]

For the kind of money they are asking for those condos, give me many acres (forested) with access to a lake and a cabin with a mechanical shed (metal lathe, CNC, mill, etc.).

Put my happy rear in the middle and I'd be a happy camper.



Well -- I guess that's why the United States of America is so big... there's something for everyone!


The Townhomes were all sold out by the time they even offered them for sale... People prefer that kind of vacation home over in these mountain towns -- they don't have to worry about anything except to unlock the door... and close it when they leave. These seem to be occupied more during golf season -- as I've only seen one being used so far this winter. With the proximity to the golf club house (across the street) and 27 holes to play --- I would assume they're mostly the golf crowd.

We bought our lot primarily for the view -- and mostly because it was as far away from those and future town home sites as we could get.

[protour73]

Greg, those plans look friggin awesome. That design is kind of Prairie style (think Frank Lloyd Wright) meets Post and Beam.

The "A" and "B" elevations are pretty kick azz!!

.
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.Jody, sorry for the thread hijack!! :warning:

[camcojb]

.
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.Jody, sorry for the thread hijack!! :warning:
No problem at all. Anytime we can get Greg to share his life it's all good. :thumbsup:

[WSSix]

Nice looking house design, Greg.


As for the original post, holy crap does Singapore do some crazy stuff. Then again, look at the population density.

[Wissing72]

You just pipe down!!



I have enough trouble with my wife...



:poke: :stirthepot: :lol:

Hell I could have mentioned that the wine room doesn't look close enough to the media room. (or big enough)
I also will mention that my wife is still griping that she wants a "back lit" shoe rack along 1 wall in the master closet. Along with a center island to put more "girl" stuff in.
We bought our place last year, because it was perfect. Then we moved in......

[GregWeld]

Nice looking house design, Greg.


As for the original post, holy crap does Singapore do some crazy stuff. Then again, look at the population density.

THANKS --- it's been changed quite a bit since these were done. I was just giving a general peek.

Singapore is also WORLD CLASS MONEY.... It's like going to Monaco... you think you're pretty set --- and then you see how real money lives.

[GregWeld]

:poke: :stirthepot: :lol:

Hell I could have mentioned that the wine room doesn't look close enough to the media room. (or big enough)
I also will mention that my wife is still griping that she wants a "back lit" shoe rack along 1 wall in the master closet. Along with a center island to put more "girl" stuff in.
We bought our place last year, because it was perfect. Then we moved in......



I don't even care about the house -- I've spent all my time getting the shop right. I don't drink so more than one bottle of wine is too much. It's been changed since this as have many rooms -- the house got a lot bigger in the living spaces -- i.e., kitchen and family room. and got smaller in the 2 bedrooms above the garage (guest bedrooms we intend for grandkids)...

But most importantly the shop got bigger and the door configuration changed and the minimal posts required got moved. Now that's important stuff!!!

[Che70velle]

Very nice place Greg! I love the design, however the term "garage mahal" has already been taken. I've been inside the original one, and it is epic! Every auto builders dream garage, for sure!
Don't blame you for wanting the hauler inside. I was never able to get my race hauler in the shop, so the cold and "unuse" during the off season was problematic.

[GregWeld]

Very nice place Greg! I love the design, however the term "garage mahal" has already been taken. I've been inside the original one, and it is epic! Every auto builders dream garage, for sure!
Don't blame you for wanting the hauler inside. I was never able to get my race hauler in the shop, so the cold and "unuse" during the off season was problematic.



Yeah - the builders and architect started calling it that making fun of me....


The problem here is temperature -- right now it's 21* and was 5* when I got up this morning... these are NORMAL temps here.... and the toter home has living quarters -- meaning water and water storage and food etc. And I often use the trailer for the two track cars to get them out of the way -- they don't run antifreeze because a leak on track is too slick... so that's a problem if left outside in the trailer.

You also can't wash stuff outside here in these temps! So if I head out in winter -- I want to be able to clean stuff up!

Last winter the lot had 5 to 6' feet of snow --- I don't want that on the truck and trailer and then want to load up and go somewhere "warm"...

The hillside lends itself to this kind of dig for the shop --- it's just a deeper foundation.

Basically I can just blame Lillard for all the issues in my life.

[Panteracer]

Greg
Great layout. Shop is important but you
have to keep the little lady happy

I tried for years to get my wife to move to
a more rural area but she put her foot down

So we bought a bldg 10 minutes from home

My home away from home
I would live there if I wasn't married

Keep us posted on the build
Looks like fun

Panteracer NorCal Bob

[GregWeld]

Greg
Great layout. Shop is important but you
have to keep the little lady happy

I tried for years to get my wife to move to
a more rural area but she put her foot down

So we bought a bldg 10 minutes from home

My home away from home
I would live there if I wasn't married

Keep us posted on the build
Looks like fun

Panteracer NorCal Bob


Bob ---

It was Gwen that found the lot and told me we were building a house there and moving. She's happy.

I don't care where I live -- I can load up my semi full of stuff and hit the road. But we both love it here.

She used to threaten and tell me she was going to move me down to the 'shed' --- I was always hoping she'd carry through!

[Stuart Adams]

Momma happy everyone happy.

Very nice Greg. I need to get there one if these days

Looks relaxing and very scenic.

[GregWeld]

Stuart....


One of the biggest attractions for US ---- is that people WANT to come here. You want to ski? Let's go skiing.... you want to fish...(fly)... there's 1400 lakes and a half a zillion creeks.... You want to Mountain bike? There's ten gazillion miles of single track trails and only 2 gazillon miles of flat double wide... You want to Golf?? I live on a 27 hole golf course (Trail Creek and White Clouds - you can mix and match your 9's)... You want to hike? OMG... step off the patio and head out. Valley View trail cuts a corner off the property. See ya when you get back... or I'll meet you in town at the Starbucks (my buddy Rizzo owns it - one of 6 privately owned in the country).

We are building the house with KIDS -- and ACTIVITY -- and long term (meaning more than a weekend) guests, in mind. We have a spare set of wheels (if you don't mind driving a new Land Rover)... TOWN is 2.2 flat miles of beautiful walking on a combo bike pedestrian path. The golf lodge is across the street -- and the Sun Valley Lodge and "mall" is half a mile. Galena lodge is 23 miles up the road and has fantastic snowshoe trails from beginner to expert...
Jackson Hole is a 4 hour drive... Salt Lake City is 4 1/2 hours.... Boise is 2 1/2 hours.... and Thunderhill is 10 in the rig... Same as from Seattle... only a prettier drive. The Costco is in Twin Falls -- 2 hours straight down the hi way - you don't turn the wheel or touch the brakes... and really? How often do you go? It's an adventure. Oh - almost next door is the Freightliner dealer where I get the rig serviced. Last time I went down - we took the Range - and while the rig got serviced we did Costco and Home Depot and all the "city crap".

And all winter long you'll wake up to bluebird skies and a view of the mountain that will draw you in like a moth to a flame... Oh -- it's 5* this morning -- but hey! It's a DRY cold! LOL

[Stuart Adams]

Greg, that's awesome.

[Ketzer]

Are you taking reservations yet, GW? The wagon is all packed...

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL267/1824562/17470752/408500918.jpg


Jeff-

[GregWeld]

Are you taking reservations yet, GW? The wagon is all packed...

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL267/1824562/17470752/408500918.jpg


Jeff-




Give me two years.... 18 months from this "spring" should we have one..... until then -- I'm "camping" in the 1200 sq ft condo from hell...

After that! BRING IT ON!


I'm serious when I say the entire thought process of this house has been with the thought of tons of people in a continuos stream.

That's why Charley's room is completely separate from anywhere kids might inhabit.

[Che70velle]

18 months is perfect. By then, maybe Rob will have the Torino done. Of course I have no room to talk, as I haven't touched mine in 3 months due to my workload, but I did get a bunch of fancy new parts for christmas.
Wait a minute...is that garage big enough for a Torino, and my Chevelle?
Can I bring my dog?

[Ketzer]

Maybe my wife will have forgiven the TSA by then, otherwise it's a several thousand mile drive... I'm too old to spend more than 6-8 hrs driving to get somewhere.


Jeff-

[GregWeld]

18 months is perfect. By then, maybe Rob will have the Torino done. Of course I have no room to talk, as I haven't touched mine in 3 months due to my workload, but I did get a bunch of fancy new parts for christmas.
Wait a minute...is that garage big enough for a Torino, and my Chevelle?
Can I bring my dog?



The garage is deep enough for my truck but not a Torino... I'll have sold and moved by then anyway....



Heck yes you can bring a dog! This is the only place in the entire UNIVERSE where if you leave your dog outside the store... They yell at you to go get 'em and bring 'em in.

We have one nut job named Stella -- and Gwen says she's getting at least two more Labs when the house is done. We're going to name the dump -- Menagerie Manor.

[GregWeld]

Maybe my wife will have forgiven the TSA by then, otherwise it's a several thousand mile drive... I'm too old to spend more than 6-8 hrs driving to get somewhere.


Jeff-



There's a way to beat the TSA.... It's called a Global Entry card.... You have to apply on line -- fill out 70 forms that ask redundant questions -- pay $100 -- and have an interview with the Customs guys.. Then you go straight to a different checkpoint -- leave your shoes on - leave your computer in your bag and bingo bango... walk thru.

[Ketzer]

There's a way to beat the TSA.... It's called a Global Entry card.....

That's interesting GW but looks like it's geared toward international travel?
Is it honored in every airport? Do I still have to approach the TSA and get their blessing to move over to the Global pass thru?

The Global website linked to something similar called TSA pre check but their FAQs clearly state it's still at TSAs whim on a case-by-case if they feel you are "eligible"...

Jeff-

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Most look at that hill side and see gods country...I see 10,000 sq ft underground facility wil indoor gun range and out door style drive in movie.

Never invisioned spoiled brats is Singapore.

[GregWeld]

That's interesting GW but looks like it's geared toward international travel?
Is it honored in every airport? Do I still have to approach the TSA and get their blessing to move over to the Global pass thru?

The Global website linked to something similar called TSA pre check but their FAQs clearly state it's still at TSAs whim on a case-by-case if they feel you are "eligible"...

Jeff-



Yeah -- typical government website -- it's meant to confuse and drive you crazy...


Once you APPLY --- and yeah it's a "Pre TSA" thing --- the Global Entry is an option.... You go to the PRE TSA at the airport.... there's separate screening for PRE TSA and your Global Entry (once you get one) is part of the info on your ticket (just as PRE TSA is) and they just run your sorry butt thru.

Drive over the Canadian border -- you just hold up your little card to some magical card reader -- and bam -- you're back in the USA...

International travel - you go to an electronic kiosk and put your card in - hold your hand to a print reader -- and it prints out a "go" or a "no go" ticket -- get a "go" ticket you show that - skip customs and go pick up your bags... The occasional no go ticket is to keep you honest.

They do that every once in awhile at the airport too..... you think you're good to go and bam your number comes up and they shag you over to the schlepper line.

99% of the time -- I'm thru TSA in 15 seconds... with a LOT less hassle.

The $100 gets you FIVE YEARS worth of being treated like a US citizen instead of a possible terrorist.

[clill]

http://usa.immigrationvisaforms.com/travel/global-entry-pass

[clill]

We just did our Global Entry interviews in SF last Friday. It is mainly for international travel as far as I can tell. When we come back from Honduras we land in Houston and the Customs line can be a mile long and we only have a little over a hour between flights. There is no line at the Global Entry kiosks. Can't wait.

[Sieg]

Most look at that hill side and see gods country...I see 10,000 sq ft underground facility wil indoor gun range and out door style drive in movie.

Never invisioned spoiled brats is Singapore.

Tried talking someone into a two lane range........just because they probably could. :D

[GregWeld]

We just did our Global Entry interviews in SF last Friday. It is mainly for international travel as far as I can tell. When we come back from Honduras we land in Houston and the Customs line can be a mile long and we only have a little over a hour between flights. There is no line at the Global Entry kiosks. Can't wait.



I use it at EVERY airport... once you get your global entry number -- you put it in when you book a flight... and it's printed as part of your boarding pass... and you go straight to the PRE TSA line... (there's rarely a line at PRE TSA). They even have a PRE TSA entry at Boise... and they didn't use to.

It's an all encompassing "get out of line jail" card.

[GregWeld]

Go straight here to apply....


Be forewarned --- the application process requires some time... and asks for lots of documents - passport -- birth certificate (I think) etc.... so be prepared to be a little frustrated....

It takes a few weeks to hear back from them -- once you're "pre approved" -- then you schedule an appointment where they tell you (your area).


https://goes-app.cbp.dhs.gov/main/goes

[Panteracer]

Greg
I have a used diesel generator I was
going to give to my Dad but he decided he did not want it
It will not meet Kalifornia smog. Been in my shop a couple
of years just sitting. You can have it if you want
Just need to load it and go

I hate to scrap it. Would be good to go to a new home
You will need a transformer. I have the specs. I think 50kw
Specs are at my office

Let me know

Panteracer NorCal Bob

[GregWeld]

Greg
I have a used diesel generator I was
going to give to my Dad but he decided he did not want it
It will not meet Kalifornia smog. Been in my shop a couple
of years just sitting. You can have it if you want
Just need to load it and go

I hate to scrap it. Would be good to go to a new home
You will need a transformer. I have the specs. I think 50kw
Specs are at my office

Let me know

Panteracer NorCal Bob



I appreciate the offer Bob - I really do... but I already have generators. Including diesel versions big enough to run the house. Perhaps someone that doesn't already have one could use it.

Having lived in the Pacific NorthWET all my life - owning generators is part and parcel with living where there's plenty of wind storms and large trees right next to the power lines...

[clill]

Got my Global Entry ID card in the mail yesterday....yippee......

[GregWeld]

Got my Global Entry ID card in the mail yesterday....yippee......


Great!!! I called my cop buddy yesterday === You should leave the country now so it can be "tested" to see if you can get back in. Just a heads up -- make sure you pick somewhere to go that you really like. <snickering>

[SSLance]

"Motor Court" Everyone needs a house with a designated Motor Court! I love it.

While I like the plans of the shop, and I'm sure it'll be even nicer in it's final rendition, I'm also digging the kitchen with the eat in area that leads out to the covered porch...with a fireplace. I imagine that area there will get used more than any other part of the house as a gathering area. At least with us it would anyway.

When we remodeled our "kitchen area" we built in a raised "L" shaped bar that seats 8 right off of the kitchen with views out the back of the house right next to our dining room which doubles as our TV room. This is where we congregate and any time we have company over, it's where everyone hangs out enjoying food, adult beverages of choice, and each other in a comfortable setting. If there was a bedroom right off of this area, pretty sure we'd never even go anywhere else in the whole house.

Only think I'm missing is the covered porch and I'm still trying to figure out a way to make that happen. We'd like to be able to sit outside and enjoy the view...while having a roof over our head at the same time. Added plus is a fireplace going to keep the area warm. Real fireplace or gas (propane)?

It all looks very nice Greg. It shows that you've put a lot of thought into the planning which is crucial.

Side note here, not sure I know or want to know what a deciduous shrub is...but it appears that you want a lot of them around though. :lol:

[GregWeld]

Lance ---

Several of the design elements are "forced" by code.

#1 - Motor Court... this is a must and had to be enlarged because the fire department bought a new 'rig' right after the big fires here this summer! We had to re-submit plans enlarging this and the driveway so that their new truck can make a 3 point turn. Not kidding here. We don't have enough friends to fill this area up unless Charley brought every car he owns.


#2 - The house - as posted up here - has changed quite a lot in room sizes and arrangement. The "living areas" -- which to me are exactly as you described -- the kitchen - family room - area got BIGGER.... Because when we tried to actually arrange furniture there --- we discovered they became "tight".


#3 - The shop area has been changed significantly. Once actual models of the semi -- and my other stuff were made - things had to change... I'm really happy with the final design but this area required the most work!


#4 - It was critical, in our view, that "company" (children etc) be as far away as possible from the main living areas. Not because we don't like them - but because people "on vacation" tend to drink more than normal -- being louder -- and kids tend to be worn out and need their nighty nite time.


#5 - I agree with you that the extended roofline out over the outdoor fireplace will be a "highlight" of the house. It will have the fireplace as well as be heated by outdoor space heaters. I don't have good enough pics on file to show the views from there -- but this will be a focal point for hanging out.


#6 - The kitchen has some of those areas showing "stuff" were just placeholders so we could get the rooms and room placement right. The stove - for instance - won't be where it is etc. Those changes are all in the new plans that I don't have PDF files for yet. Should have them this week


#7 - I have a call in to Charley to see about the mortgage. So far I haven't received a call back.







"Motor Court" Everyone needs a house with a designated Motor Court! I love it.

While I like the plans of the shop, and I'm sure it'll be even nicer in it's final rendition, I'm also digging the kitchen with the eat in area that leads out to the covered porch...with a fireplace. I imagine that area there will get used more than any other part of the house as a gathering area. At least with us it would anyway.

When we remodeled our "kitchen area" we built in a raised "L" shaped bar that seats 8 right off of the kitchen with views out the back of the house right next to our dining room which doubles as our TV room. This is where we congregate and any time we have company over, it's where everyone hangs out enjoying food, adult beverages of choice, and each other in a comfortable setting. If there was a bedroom right off of this area, pretty sure we'd never even go anywhere else in the whole house.

Only think I'm missing is the covered porch and I'm still trying to figure out a way to make that happen. We'd like to be able to sit outside and enjoy the view...while having a roof over our head at the same time. Added plus is a fireplace going to keep the area warm. Real fireplace or gas (propane)?

It all looks very nice Greg. It shows that you've put a lot of thought into the planning which is crucial.

Side note here, not sure I know or want to know what a deciduous shrub is...but it appears that you want a lot of them around though. :lol:

[SSLance]

When we did our kitchen, we went and picked out all of the appliances we (she) wanted first...then I sat down with a pencil and paper (and an eraser...don't forget the eraser) and designed the kitchen around where the appliances would fit. It took many renditions before we finally found a plan that would work while making the most and best use of the space available. So I'm well aware of what the planning phase is like. :unibrow:

Make sure you save room in the kitchen for one of these...

http://www.mieleusa.com/images/mieleusa/cva/response_box/news/CVA.jpg

We love ours! (http://www.mieleusa.com/products/models.asp?cat=5&subcat=30&menu_id=22&oT=128&active=Our%20Products&subm=Home%20Appliances&thirdL=Coffee%20Systems&fourthL=Whole%20Bean&fourthL=Whole%20Bean%20Built-In&)

Designed the whole damn kitchen layout around it, but it is totally worth it if you like good coffee.

[snappytravis]

Good luck on your new project Greg, I hear that Sun Valley is similar to Jackson Hole, very nice place. We are close to finishing our new home project, It has been going since 10-12. Isn't it funny how you design a house and If you notice everytime you change the plans they get bigger!
Good luck
Travis

[SSLance]

Lance ---

Several of the design elements are "forced" by code.

#1 - Motor Court... this is a must and had to be enlarged because the fire department bought a new 'rig' right after the big fires here this summer! We had to re-submit plans enlarging this and the driveway so that their new truck can make a 3 point turn. Not kidding here. We don't have enough friends to fill this area up unless Charley brought every car he owns.




I'll try to make this a quick story about a similar problem we ran into... My business partner is from NC he built rented and sold single family vacation homes on the Outer Banks for over 20 years. The last one we built was North of the paved road, one had to drive up the beach, then over a large sand dune to get back to the house. It is a 10 bedroom house, 3 stories tall. The plans were approved by the County and construction started. When it came time for the framing inspection, the County inspector wouldn't approve it because the peak of the roof was just under 35' tall, even though the plans the County approved specifically showed this. Height restriction was due to the inability to get a firetruck with a ladder tall enough to reach a roof over 30' tall to the house... Two separate codes on the books = 1 huge problem.

Spent almost a year in meetings with the County trying to decide what to do. Several heads rolled, and in the end, we ended up cutting the peak off of the roof and making it a flat top.

What a clustermess...

http://sunrealtync.smugmug.com/photos/i-R9fGhdP/0/L/i-R9fGhdP-L.jpg

[GregWeld]

We have quite the "team" doing this house.... we have the Architects... and an independent designer - not an "interior designer" to pick colors etc - but a design firm that specializes in a "holistic" design approach - their job is to do all the design work that requires cabinets - fixtures - lighting fixtures - as well as a complete review of door placements and which way they swing - etc. So this firm designs for the build - exactly where every wall socket goes - and exactly how high a wall sconce should be off the floor etc. Super detailed.

We also have a lighting design firm - and their job is to design all of the interior and exterior lighting. Lighting can make a room or house. How the lights are placed (up or down lighting) - the type - etc. With the stone that's in the interior of the house - there will be lighting that does nothing but accent and shadow the stone walls.

What we've found with working with a team like this -- is some fantastic little changes that will make all the difference in the world. They're not expensive changed -- they're just "if you did X look what it would do to Y". I personally - having retired from being in the furniture and design business as a wholesaler -- love this stuff. A sofa is just a sofa - until you get the right fabric and accent pillows etc on it.

Our builders - don't build "normal" houses... it's all custom stuff... and they have been fantastic at bringing ideas to the process - having done various things in other builds. They also bring what they all refer to as "value engineering" to the table. There's many ways to skin the cat -- and they look at stuff and say -- if you turned this wall into a pour in place wall - we could then just use "lick and stick" stone instead of building it out of full stone... WAY CHEAPER to do lick and stick! So all of that is where we are at now -- a total review of how it's to be built and the line items plugged in and minor adjustments made as that review process gets drilled down on.

I love this stuff... it gives me something to do other than to figure out what changes I'd want to make to which car over the winter. Some folks think the process is too complicated or overwhelming -- I love it and love the details and I know how important those can be. It isn't the first house we've built -- or the first remodel so we understand the little things that you forgot in the last one -- or you placed wrong in the last one...Like you want a table lamp over by the sofa but that's not against the wall -- so you need a floor receptacle etc. Our cell phones and all their related chargers etc will be INSIDE a drawer so we don't have that kind of stuff out in the open. It might seem small -- but to me it's a "why not" kind of detail. No different than which way a door swings.

I won't have a built in coffee maker... While it's the rage right now - we tend not to do trendy.. because 10 years from now - that one is out of date and the new one doesn't fit in that hole -- etc. We use "getting a good cup of coffee" as an excuse to walk into town. And I'm a certified coffee freak! Besides - it gives me an excused to BS with my buddy Rizzo... The Starbucks here (and I'm not defending their coffee -- (I only get coffee from made with the Clover) is the center of the known universe.







When we did our kitchen, we went and picked out all of the appliances we (she) wanted first...then I sat down with a pencil and paper (and an eraser...don't forget the eraser) and designed the kitchen around where the appliances would fit. It took many renditions before we finally found a plan that would work while making the most and best use of the space available. So I'm well aware of what the planning phase is like. :unibrow:

Make sure you save room in the kitchen for one of these...

http://www.mieleusa.com/images/mieleusa/cva/response_box/news/CVA.jpg

We love ours! (http://www.mieleusa.com/products/models.asp?cat=5&subcat=30&menu_id=22&oT=128&active=Our%20Products&subm=Home%20Appliances&thirdL=Coffee%20Systems&fourthL=Whole%20Bean&fourthL=Whole%20Bean%20Built-In&)

Designed the whole damn kitchen layout around it, but it is totally worth it if you like good coffee.

[GregWeld]

Good luck on your new project Greg, I hear that Sun Valley is similar to Jackson Hole, very nice place. We are close to finishing our new home project, It has been going since 10-12. Isn't it funny how you design a house and If you notice everytime you change the plans they get bigger!
Good luck
Travis



Travis ---- we began by saying we wanted 4500 to 5000 feet... with the changes it became 8000 feet!!! We then told the architect -- who had decided on his own to just push thing this way and that -- that he had to "find" a way to take at least 1500 to 2000 feet OUT of this project!! A) there's only the two of us most of the time B) we can't afford to build 8000 feet with all the cost of the shop and everything else C) we're not really very fancy people and thought the whole idea of living in a McMansion was just ostentatious and certainly not "us" -- having said that -- I'd still build smaller than what we are - but there becomes a point in the "I want list" and what it takes to get there - and what the area "demands" due to dirt costs etc.

Yes -- similar to Jackson Hole -- but I think Sun Valley is much friendlier and a lot less touristy and we tend to attract people that own here (second houses etc) over the come for the weekend/week crowd. The airport and services here SUCK... and that holds down the fly in and out folks. It takes some effort to get here.

[Panteracer]

You guys are doing it wrong.. it is suppose
to be a 1 bedroom, 1 bath house with a 10,000 sf shop:)

But I know what you mean.. When Mom and Dad retired
they moved to their Ranch and built at 7500 sf house not
counting the large 3 car garage, the shop, the pole barn
and the two other houses.. Now it is just Dad and he spends
most of his time traveling.. He finally got a cowboy and his
family to live in one of the houses and take care of a lot of
the things.. although at 80 he still works his ass off when he
is at home.. old guy climbing the hay stack to get bales to
take out to the pasture

Panteracaer Norcal Bob

[GregWeld]

If it was just left up to me -- I'd just have the shop -- who needs a bedroom? I'd just stay in the toter.

In the interest of "getting old" which it seems we close that gap sooner and sooner --- we do have an elevator serving all three floors. We are going to die in this house. This is it - the coupe d'gras (or is it poop the grass?)... and figured our friends are getting older as well. Lugging cases of wine up the stairs and suitcases etc -- I figure might be done easier "mechanically". HAHAHAHAHA!


While the landscaping seem like 'a lot' it's done with Sun Valley mountain living in mind - note there's no grass to mow... :>)






You guys are doing it wrong.. it is suppose
to be a 1 bedroom, 1 bath house with a 10,000 sf shop:)

But I know what you mean.. When Mom and Dad retired
they moved to their Ranch and built at 7500 sf house not
counting the large 3 car garage, the shop, the pole barn
and the two other houses.. Now it is just Dad and he spends
most of his time traveling.. He finally got a cowboy and his
family to live in one of the houses and take care of a lot of
the things.. although at 80 he still works his ass off when he
is at home.. old guy climbing the hay stack to get bales to
take out to the pasture

Panteracaer Norcal Bob

[LS7 Z/28]

Greg, just so you know I am up for adoption. Haha. :bow:

[toy71camaro]

Beautiful. Man. put those dividend checks to work! heheh


I'll be sending in my reservation request card in a couple years. ;)

[96z28ss]

Here is the plans for my new house. I just haven't been able to convince Robyn that this will be good for us.

[GregWeld]

Greg, just so you know I am up for adoption. Haha. :bow:





Your mother called -- said she never wanted to raise a trust fund baby....







Beautiful. Man. put those dividend checks to work! heheh


I'll be sending in my reservation request card in a couple years. ;)




Perfect 'cause that's just about when she'll be done!






Here is the plans for my new house. I just haven't been able to convince Robyn that this will be good for us.







Woman are just so.... so..... well..... so practical.

[Sieg]

Here is the plans for my new house. I just haven't been able to convince Robyn that this will be good for us.

Garage isn't big enough.

Maybe a loft over the bedroom with a view would close the deal. :unibrow:

[redefined]

Can I come play golf? :) I'll even sleep in the garage. :hello:

[GregWeld]

Can I come play golf? :) I'll even sleep in the garage. :hello:



You can come play golf --- but you can't sleep in the garage - because that's where I'll most likely be. LOL

[redefined]

You can come play golf --- but you can't sleep in the garage - because that's where I'll most likely be. LOL

Fair enough, I'll be in the media room then :popcorn2:

[Sieg]

I'm thinking a Lat-g golf tourney might be just a little bit of good old fashion fun!

Best Ball, Alternate Shot, and Scramble formats of course! :stirthepot:

[redefined]

I'm thinking a Lat-g golf tourney might be just a little bit of good old fashion fun!

Best Ball, Alternate Shot, and Scramble formats of course! :stirthepot:

Sounds good, but I want some heads up games too! :warning:

[GregWeld]

What I've been holding out on is the top speed runs up hiway 75 towards Galena Pass.... FOUR Bugatti Veyrons showed up... and we know they can run!


http://www.sunvalleyroadrally.com







ZcDAkJfC4gE









JB4_3j0hW54

[Sieg]

Sounds good, but I want some heads up games too! :warning:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DN4bJhC3VaQ/UD7FZ47o0TI/AAAAAAAAAno/eklJGCkHDtw/s1600/smails.jpg

:thumbsup:

[redefined]

That's it Sieg.

http://www.msd-foundation.org.php54-1.dfw1-1.websitetestlink.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GolfFace.png

:topic:

[Che70velle]

Greg, the roadrally sounds very tempting, and is designed to help a worthy cause. I'm very interested in this, and will do more research. Thanks for the link!

[GregWeld]

Greg, the roadrally sounds very tempting, and is designed to help a worthy cause. I'm very interested in this, and will do more research. Thanks for the link!




I've emailed the head of the deal --- a guy I met last summer when I was cruising around in the '32 and of course this being a small town he buttonholed me about the event. I won't miss it this summer for certain.

[Che70velle]

You watching or driving this one?

[GregWeld]

You watching or driving this one?



Well -- I'd be a donor and then I'd just watch -- I don't have anything street legal that i'd try to drive fast. My little F-150 pick up wouldn't be much fun... and we got rid of the R8 and the S63.

I don't think my hot rods would be much in the top speed driving.

[Che70velle]

Gotcha! Didn't know the R8 was gone.

[GregWeld]

Gotcha! Didn't know the R8 was gone.



Well... this move to Sun Valley -- which was a "sudden" decision for us last year at this time... has us making some life changes. This is a super small town... We walk most of the time. With the addition of our Chocolate Lab "Stella" ---- and the hiking and biking and skiing etc... there's not much use for high end cars. We're not going to take Stella for a hike on the dirt trails and then have her jump in the R8 or the S63.... so those went down the road. I am most likely the only human in the entire universe to ever trade in a 20,000 mile S63 on an F-150 pickup. Gwen decided she wanted to get a white Porsche Cayenne GTS -- ditching the Black turbo -- and since it was summer - they took the R8 and sold that for us - rather than waiting until next year and having it depreciate even more...

So far -- I've been using about 1/8th of a tank of gas a week or 10 days in the F-150 and the Range Rover sits in the garage.

Cars here are FILTHY all the time --- even though there is ONE car wash in town (OMG I swear on my own life -- to think of running a black car through that thing is just WRONG!!). It snows - and the sun comes out - and it turns into black crud... and it's cold as hell so you can't wash with a bucket and hose... so what I'm trying to say is -- the car situation over here just had to be changed up.

Once we move in to the house -- the stuff will all be washed by hand INDOORS... in the shop. But that's 2 years away.

[snappytravis]

Travis ---- we began by saying we wanted 4500 to 5000 feet... with the changes it became 8000 feet!!! We then told the architect -- who had decided on his own to just push thing this way and that -- that he had to "find" a way to take at least 1500 to 2000 feet OUT of this project!! A) there's only the two of us most of the time B) we can't afford to build 8000 feet with all the cost of the shop and everything else C) we're not really very fancy people and thought the whole idea of living in a McMansion was just ostentatious and certainly not "us" -- having said that -- I'd still build smaller than what we are - but there becomes a point in the "I want list" and what it takes to get there - and what the area "demands" due to dirt costs etc.

Yes -- similar to Jackson Hole -- but I think Sun Valley is much friendlier and a lot less touristy and we tend to attract people that own here (second houses etc) over the come for the weekend/week crowd. The airport and services here SUCK... and that holds down the fly in and out folks. It takes some effort to get here.

It will be nice, I haven't been up that way before I bought my 67 chevelle from a guy in Pocatello, I remember him telling me about a big car auction up there do they still do that?
5000 s.f. Is still a dam big house. I will send you some pictures of the one we are having built. It has a 5 car garage. Does your wife have you watching the home shows yet? They have been on at our house for the last 2 years. Good luck:tv_happy:

[GregWeld]

It will be nice, I haven't been up that way before I bought my 67 chevelle from a guy in Pocatello, I remember him telling me about a big car auction up there do they still do that?
5000 s.f. Is still a dam big house. I will send you some pictures of the one we are having built. It has a 5 car garage. Does your wife have you watching the home shows yet? They have been on at our house for the last 2 years. Good luck:tv_happy:


Well... Quite frankly... there's no good reason to have a house this size for two people. But the shop is the focal point of my life - and as it got sized to accommodate the stuff that needs to be in there... and as that area grew the upper floors grew. And we wanted separation for guests/kids etc. so they just take on a life of their own. All told this is now 6,700 square feet -- the shop is 4,300 and with the garage the whole thing is 12,000ish square feet. JUST SHOOT ME....

I retired from the wholesale furniture business -- style - fabrics - colors - that's my background professionally... so I do that stuff, not Gwen. We must agree - but we agree really well. We're two peas in a pod that way.

[GregWeld]

Not sure how this became a house picture thread -- but since it originally started out asking if I'd have a hi-tech parking garage... I guess it's okay to hijack it.... which it's too late anyway. Sorry Jody!


So since this is a car site -- the only part of the house thats of any real interest is the garage space. So we changed a few things since the original drawings were posted. Instead of two huge doors - it was better to do one huge door --- and a smaller more normal door. That meant things had to move around -- which lead to representative place holders being drawn up.

I will never park the pickup in this area -- since we have a normal garage up above with better access to the house... but we put it in anyway since this is the parts chaser and it needed to be accommodated.


The posts are staggered so that a car can actually be driven in -- and maneuvered to get to the lift -- and or just stored. The bump out on the right
is to accomodate tire storage. When you have 3 regular vehicles and 2 track cars - tires seem to stack up. Winter tires for the normal stuff and spares for the track stuff (I have 3 full sets of wheel / tire combo just for the Lotus!)...

The rear most area is the machine shop.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Sun%20Valley%20House/Shop.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Sun%20Valley%20House/Shop.jpg.html)





Now you get the idea for the staggered door sizes.....and these views start to reveal the "BIG DIG" that has to take place in order to fit the semi in there! Thanks Charley!..... NOT!





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Sun%20Valley%20House/Front.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Sun%20Valley%20House/Front.jpg.html)






And here's the roofline area showing the general shape of the house... with the three separate wings - and the wings are on different elevations as well - because of the shape of the hillside.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Sun%20Valley%20House/Rooflines.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Sun%20Valley%20House/Rooflines.jpg.html)

[Flash68]

Do you like the look, balance, a.k.a. "the flow" of the large garage door for the semi with the smaller one to the right?

[Ketzer]

You have to disconnect the tractor to have the whole rig inside?!? Come on GW, dig a little deeper into mountain.... :stirthepot:



Jeff-

[SSLance]

Big door 14' tall? Does that make the ceiling in the garage 18' tall?

Sure hope you don't hit rock digging that out... :evil:

[Sieg]

Do you like the look, balance, a.k.a. "the flow" of the large garage door for the semi with the smaller one to the right?

After we sneak over there and put a BIG A** Weld Racing decal on that door it will break the expanse and flow fine. :D

[Flash68]

After we sneak over there and put a BIG A** Weld Racing decal on that door it will break the expanse and flow fine. :D

I was thinking of putting something right over that smaller door... and that will do just fine. :D

[Sieg]

I was thinking of putting something right over that smaller door... and that will do just fine. :D

WE really need to focus our energy on the larger expanse first. Maybe a 3X life bronze statue on wheels of GW in the Heisman pose to break of the expanse of the big door and a tasteful coordinating bronze "a**holes Garage" plaque over the smaller door?

[GregWeld]

Do you like the look, balance, a.k.a. "the flow" of the large garage door for the semi with the smaller one to the right?



Like most things -- life is a compromise. I'd prefer the door be on the side of the house... but there's no way to make that happen. The fact that Gwen is letting me spend a million dollars building a garage to store a truck in is good enough for me.





You have to disconnect the tractor to have the whole rig inside?!? Come on GW, dig a little deeper into mountain.... :stirthepot:
Jeff-





You just pipe down!!!


LOL






Big door 14' tall? Does that make the ceiling in the garage 18' tall?

Sure hope you don't hit rock digging that out... :evil:


Interior to bottom of poured in place concrete beams is 16'.... then the house floor is fir'd up off that so they have place to insulate and run plumbing / heating etc.

This wasn't dubbed the "garagemahal" by the builder for nothing.... the entire "dig" has the whole f'n town stirred up! The "what if you have to dynamite" up there... the floor slab thickness (had to get axle weights from Freightliner)... the size of the footings (8' wide)... and on and on....





After we sneak over there and put a BIG A** Weld Racing decal on that door it will break the expanse and flow fine. :D

I was thinking of putting something right over that smaller door... and that will do just fine. :D





There's a hidden compartment where the rock flips open and a laser guided Dillion Aero is mounted there -- Oh -- did I mention it's also outfitted with facial recognition software??





WE really need to focus our energy on the larger expanse first. Maybe a 3X life bronze statue on wheels of GW in the Heisman pose to break of the expanse of the big door and a tasteful coordinating bronze "a**holes Garage" plaque over the smaller door?






Please re-read the above message in response to your other nefarious post. I do like the Aholes garage plaque idea though!! Had Stella trained at SOB Farms... The trainer told me that stands for "south of Bellevue" when people have to ask. We get along swimmingly.

[HAULNSS]

Please re-read the above message in response to your other nefarious post. I do like the Aholes garage plaque idea though!! Had Stella trained at SOB Farms... The trainer told me that stands for "south of Bellevue" when people have to ask. We get along swimmingly.

You gotta have the "A-holes Garage" sign somewhere! :lol:

"Home Sweet Home" signs are overdone.

[GregWeld]

You gotta have the "A-holes Garage" sign somewhere! :lol:

"Home Sweet Home" signs are overdone.



I have two of them in the shed now -- two separate "gifts" from two separate "friends".


Haven't seen either one of them since.... wonder what ever happened to them...

[Sieg]

I have two of them in the shed now -- two separate "gifts" from two separate "friends".


Haven't seen either one of them since.... wonder what ever happened to them...

Here, let me refresh your memory.............

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Shop%20Pix/file-14.jpg

:welcome3:

[GregWeld]

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Shop%20Pix/8874e14c-f9bf-4b63-8d11-e16231e9de1a.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Shop%20Pix/8874e14c-f9bf-4b63-8d11-e16231e9de1a.jpg.html)

[Sieg]

:lmao:

G Dub's my daddy! Dats Right! Dats who me daddy is!

[GregWeld]

Think about this just a minute.... I haven't had a drink for 29 YEARS!!!





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Fun%20Fotos/IMG_1121.png (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Fun%20Fotos/IMG_1121.png.html)

[Track Junky]

OK I've thought about it. Gwen had an easier time talking you into a glass of wine as apposed to Viagra.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Track Junky]

No wait......That's Mr Potato head with his angry eyes on

HAHAHAHAHA

[Sieg]

:lmao:

I'm envisioning a similar look to that on the faces of numerous gas station attendants when Dave and Rob pull in.

[INTMD8]

The garage is deep enough for my truck but not a Torino... I'll have sold and moved by then anyway....


Oh man I love it LOL :lmao:

Amazing setup btw!

[SSLance]

Back on topic a bit, well not really on the original topic...but the new topic...

Greg, you mentioned that you are setting the garage up with the ability to wash the vehicles inside. Are you sloping the floors to drains in the centers of the floors or slanting all of the floors towards one end or the garage doors perhaps? I've seen it done both ways with varying degrees of success and unsuccessfulness. Just curious if you are that far along in the planning stage and which way you are leaning?

When I first saw your plans, I was thinking the shop area was going in the building up by the motor court, but now I can see that it looks like that is going to be the "finished car garage" and the shop and work area is going to be under the house by where the toterhome and the daily drivers will park.

If that is correct, are you concerned about fumes from the shop getting into the living areas... Paint, welding, parts solvent etc?

[GregWeld]

There's so much SNOW here -- that all the houses are built with drains in the floors so that the snow melts and has a place to go. The shop will have SEVERAL drains for water to run to.

The garage/shop area is being treated as an S2 Commercial building (even though it's part of the house)... and it has it's own ventilation system - separate heat - and A/C.

It will also be built with "make up air" system.

It's all solid poured in place concrete -- including the ceiling of the shop - forming basically a big ass cement box. There's separate mechanical spaces to serve the house so there's no penetrations thru the ceiling into the house areas. That's why there's a sub floor on top of the concrete roof of the shop.

I didn't really understand your question about parking.... so I'll just say -- the shop is the shop -- for the toterhome and trailer -- and my track cars and hot rods -- There is a SEPARATE 4 car garage for the daily driven stuff up and to the left with it's own driveway etc.

Most of the time - after being serviced - the track cars go back in to the trailer - ready to go. Since they're not capable of being street driven - having access to them isn't a requirement... and I'll NEVER park my pick up truck in the shop unless I'm loading or unloading something. We just did a mock up drawing showing spaces so I could have an idea of access etc. That was so we could get the support columns in the right places (to hold up the house but not be in my way!).

NO DAILY DRIVERS EVER GO IN THE SHOP.... only cool stuff goes in there. My trailer is a 3 car stacker -- so it can take 3 of my 4 cars.... and we have 3 daily drivers -- so the 4th "hot rod" can go up with them in the other garage if I'm doing something that requires all the floor space I can muster...





Back on topic a bit, well not really on the original topic...but the new topic...

Greg, you mentioned that you are setting the garage up with the ability to wash the vehicles inside. Are you sloping the floors to drains in the centers of the floors or slanting all of the floors towards one end or the garage doors perhaps? I've seen it done both ways with varying degrees of success and unsuccessfulness. Just curious if you are that far along in the planning stage and which way you are leaning?

When I first saw your plans, I was thinking the shop area was going in the building up by the motor court, but now I can see that it looks like that is going to be the "finished car garage" and the shop and work area is going to be under the house by where the toterhome and the daily drivers will park.

If that is correct, are you concerned about fumes from the shop getting into the living areas... Paint, welding, parts solvent etc?

[GregWeld]

Lance ---


This is the SEPARATE (from shop that's UNDER the house) 4 car garage... for the normal stuff. Note there's no mechanical stuff in here -- no hot water heaters or furnaces etc. Those are in their own mechanical rooms in various locations in the house.


NOTE TOO --- 4 drains. One in the center of each space --- under the cars to catch the snow melt.






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Garage.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Garage.jpg.html)

[SSLance]

I gotcha... that makes sense.

They started building suspended floor garages around here a few years ago, mainly due to fill reasons but it morphed into a feature. Basically they build a subgrade concrete room and form and pour a floor above it which becomes the floor for the normal attached garage. This gives the home a fully concrete room below the garage to use as storage, safe room (think tornadoes), wine cellar, whatever. At first I was leery of the suspended garage floors and their strength but they seem to have all that figured out and it works real well.

Sounds like you are going to have kinda the same deal, only you'll have doors on the end of it to drive your stuff in and out of.

Do they do any geothermal heat pumps out that way or is it all gas or propane forced air heat?

[GregWeld]

Do they do any geothermal heat pumps out that way or is it all gas or propane forced air heat?



Yes they do -- and in fact -- they can be REQUIRED... depending on the size of the house etc. I'm not sure whether or not we'll have that requirement but we don't expect to.

We did have a discussion this week about SOLAR but solar is not really suited for the winter temps here... so it's only used as a "supplement" to the "sow melt" systems for driveways and walkways etc -- and these still require boilers.
Our house has no South or Southwest facing rooflines to install Solar on -- just due to the orientation of the rooflines - so we don't plan to use any.

The roofs on houses here are built so that the SNOW DOES NOT MELT..... weird because that means you have a big snow load on the roof.... but what they don't want is melting snow running all over and then it freezes and turns to ice -- so they construct the roof area to be COLD. Go figure.... but it makes sense once you're here.

[SSLance]

Love that you have built in accommodations for your dog(s) Greg, we are dog people too and understand that completely. Looks good... can't wait to watch as it goes forward.

[GregWeld]

The "mud room" -- which is really necessary over here with the hiking and mountain biking etc... is dual purpose -- to clean poor little Stella off --- and maybe need to leave her there to dry... but then we realized we should be able to leave her there and have her be able to get outside for business.... Gwen already has plans for one additional Lab and perhaps two more (for 3).... so we MUST accommodate the menagerie!


One of the main - in fact THE main reason we switched cars out -- is to be able to have Stella with us. We go - she goes.

[SSLance]

What is that wall around the dog run consist of and what will the floor\ground in that area be?

It looks like that is also where the only "people door" around there to enter the house from the outside is?

We incorporated a people door into the side of our garage and it is the most used door in the house. All of our friends know that is the door we use to come in and out (when not driving a car in) and they use it as well.

[GregWeld]

What is that wall around the dog run consist of and what will the floor\ground in that area be?

It looks like that is also where the only "people door" around there to enter the house from the outside is?

We incorporated a people door into the side of our garage and it is the most used door in the house. All of our friends know that is the door we use to come in and out (when not driving a car in) and they use it as well.



That's TBD -- since it was kind of a last minute add on. There will need to be a separate dog door.... and yes that's a man door.

The back of the garage is into the hillside or I'd have a door back there... So what happens is the front of the garage is at ground level -- but the two bedrooms above it are 2 story - but they end up at ground level on the back side and have sliding glass doors out to a patio area. You'd have to see the crazy ground this is being built on to really see how it all works -- but there's three or 4 completely separate elevations. The garage is one level - the living space (kitchen etc) is up about half a story - our bedroom area is up another half a story - and the junior suite is on the same level as the two guest rooms above the garage even though it's behind the living areas "up the hill". The ground has a big ass draw through it - and we used that draw as a means to access the house and build the shop etc.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Sun%20Valley/file-27.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Sun%20Valley/file-27.jpg.html)

[Sieg]

GW - Food for thought - You might factor into the interior designs strategic view points for Stella to keep watch on the perimeter of the property. Might sound silly but Labs (and other naturally protective breeds) need that. I didn't give that enough though when designing out place. If they can't visually confirm certain perimeter areas they'll get a little over-active to outside noise when contained inside. There's a couple "dark" areas around our house that lead to Rev demanding to go outside to inspect since he can't visually confirm.

[GregWeld]

It's 1.6 acre lot.....







http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Sun%20Valley/92649631-9dd4-46c9-8574-dbd5fad5fd93.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Sun%20Valley/92649631-9dd4-46c9-8574-dbd5fad5fd93.jpg.html)

[Ketzer]

Our house has no South or Southwest facing rooflines to install Solar on -- just due to the orientation of the rooflines - so we don't plan to use any.




We didn't have enough roof for our solar soooo.......
(obviously with your views, not something you would want to look at)

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL267/1824562/17470752/408537348.jpg


Also, you said this is to be the forever home and yet it's multi-level? What are your thoughts/plans for the inevitable bad knees and busted hips?


Jeff-

[Sieg]

For the dog run area having a low masonary perimeter wall capped with steel fencing and a "jail" style door might work well for the dog and be visually appealing from motor park area. Then install a dog door in the mudroom exterior door for convenience.

Installing a perimeter invisible fence has been one of my better moves. Being able to let the dogs out when ever they want and not have to worry about them breaching the perimeter is good peace of mind. And after a couple months they don't need to wear the invisible fence collar to obey the perimeter.

http://www.sportdog.com/in-ground-fencing

Rev and Tucker seem very content to stand watch for hours at a time at the front of the house.

[GregWeld]

Also, you said this is to be the forever home and yet it's multi-level? What are your thoughts/plans for the inevitable bad knees and busted hips?


Jeff-

A) That kind of solar install ain't going to happen!



B) The drawings don't produce well enough to show details on here via JPG's -- but there's a 3 story elevator going from the Shop - Main floor - Upper floor (bedrooms).

[Ketzer]

A) That kind of solar install ain't going to happen!

Funny, I said the same thing for over a year. I lost. Now, instead of a beautiful forest view out the back, I have power station.



B) The drawings don't produce well enough to show details on here via JPG's -- but there's a 3 story elevator going from the Shop - Main floor - Upper floor (bedrooms).

Knew you had the magic conveyance but thought it was more of a main house lift, didn't realize it could service the whole tri-plex. :headspin:


BTW, I'm sure everyone is going to enjoy all that you are willing to share on this adventure. Especially the hiccups.


Jeff-

[GregWeld]

Funny, I said the same thing for over a year. I lost. Now, instead of a beautiful forest view out the back, I have power station.





Knew you had the magic conveyance but thought it was more of a main house lift, didn't realize it could service the whole tri-plex. :headspin:


BTW, I'm sure everyone is going to enjoy all that you are willing to share on this adventure. Especially the hiccups.


Jeff-



I'm 100% positive that SV Corp -- the folks that own most all of town and this whole plat... would NEVER let us put that kind of deal on the property. If we could get it on the south facing roof yes - but not freestanding like that. And with 5 and 6 feet of snow --- frankly it just doesn't work worth a dang in the winter. Our living room floor is at 6272' feet above sea level.



So re: Sharing the build.


Sieg and I had talked about this earlier --- and frankly it wasn't really something I was going to do. I feel a bit funny about sharing what I have already. I think it kind of gives the wrong "impression" and I know that there's lots of guys here who are just saving up for wheels -- and here I am showing off this house with an elevator...

But the other part of me says -- well hell -- we're all sharing whether or not we're having a car built at the Roadster Shop or Ironworks etc -- or doing it at home in a single car garage.... and I personally enjoy ever damn one of them. So I don't know....

The only reason I started at all was because Jody asked the question - being funny I know - but to me -- THE SHED part of the build is the most interesting and then of course it leads to all the other questions about how it fits in etc.

So I'm just rolling with it as it relates to "CARS".... and shop etc.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Many here may have seen them already, but if not, here is a review of solar shingles.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=im-getting-my-roof-redone-and-heard-about-solar-shingles

TAX SHELTER: Recently solar shingles have become price-competitive with bolt-on panels, and are getting much more popular accordingly. On top of that, federal, state and local incentives can bring the cost down considerably more. Pictured: solar shingles from the Dow Powerhouse line.

Dear EarthTalk: I’m getting my roof redone and have heard about solar shingles. Are they available—and are they practical for the Northeast?—John Denson, Glastonbury, Conn.

Solar shingles are photovoltaic cells designed to look like and integrate with conventional asphalt roof shingles. First commercially available in 2005, solar shingles were much more costly than traditional “bolt-on” photovoltaic panels, and thus were used mainly by those wanting to go solar but maintain a traditional roofline. But more recently solar shingles have become price-competitive with bolt-on panels, and are getting much more popular accordingly. Eco-conscious home and building owners might find solar shingles especially attractive when they are re-shingling anyway since the solar shingles also double as functional, protective and weatherproof roof shingles in their own right.

The biggest name in solar shingles is Dow’s Powerhouse line, which uses cutting edge Copper Indium Gallium Selenide solar cells (aka “thin-film” solar) to turn sunlight into electricity via a supplied inverter box. The Powerhouse shingles generate 12 watts per square foot and are “grid-tied,” meaning they’re designed for structures already connected to the power grid and can send excess power back to the grid. They are wireless, snap together and can be installed by regular roofing contractors just like (or alongside) conventional asphalt shingles (an electrician needs to set up the inverter box).

Dow reports that a typical residential cluster of 350 solar singles on a roof could slash one’s household electric bill by 40-60 percent. Such an installation can cost a homeowner over $20,000, but federal, state and local incentives can bring the cost to half that in some areas. Powerhouse shingles are currently available (from Dow-authorized contractors) in California, Colorado, Connecticut, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, North Carolina, Texas and Washington, D.C.

Another leader in solar shingles is building products manufacturer CertainTeed. The company’s Apollo line of grid-tied monocrystalline solar shingles and roofing tiles offers efficiency similar to larger “bolt-on” photovoltaic arrays at around the same price (and incentives similar to those for Dow may also apply) but with less bulk: Each Apollo tile is less than an inch thick and will integrate with, replace, or lay on top of existing asphalt roof shingles or tiles and generate 12 watts of power per square foot.

CertainTeed says a typical installation will save homeowners 40-70 percent on their electric bills. Their Apollo products are available across the U.S. but the company recommends using one of their authorized roofing contractors to make sure they are installed properly.

Now is an especially good time to go solar—shingles or otherwise—because costs have started to come down and the federal government is still offering 30 percent tax credits with no cap on the purchase of solar electricity equipment. Twenty-seven states and several cities offer additional incentives that can get pricing on solar gear and installations down even lower. For more information check out the Database of State Incentives for Renewables and Efficiency (DSIRE), a free online resource provided by the North Carolina Solar Center and IREC with funding from the U.S. Department of Energy.

[Stuart Adams]

I'm 100% positive that SV Corp -- the folks that own most all of town and this whole plat... would NEVER let us put that kind of deal on the property. If we could get it on the south facing roof yes - but not freestanding like that. And with 5 and 6 feet of snow --- frankly it just doesn't work worth a dang in the winter. Our living room floor is at 6272' feet above sea level.



So re: Sharing the build.


Sieg and I had talked about this earlier --- and frankly it wasn't really something I was going to do. I feel a bit funny about sharing what I have already. I think it kind of gives the wrong "impression" and I know that there's lots of guys here who are just saving up for wheels -- and here I am showing off this house with an elevator...

But the other part of me says -- well hell -- we're all sharing whether or not we're having a car built at the Roadster Shop or Ironworks etc -- or doing it at home in a single car garage.... and I personally enjoy ever damn one of them. So I don't know....

The only reason I started at all was because Jody asked the question - being funny I know - but to me -- THE SHED part of the build is the most interesting and then of course it leads to all the other questions about how it fits in etc.

So I'm just rolling with it as it relates to "CARS".... and shop etc.

It's going to be so cool to see this go up. Awesome setting.

[GregWeld]

Well thank gawd I have Charley selling cars so I can fund the dump!

[GriffithMetal]

Greg, thats a pretty cool place. I like the shop under the main house idea.

[GregWeld]

Greg, thats a pretty cool place. I like the shop under the main house idea.



Thanks Eric!!! We've worked on this place pretty hard to try to get it right. This is the famous "last house ever".... HA! So I'm going to get everything I ever wanted packed into it.

[DBasher]

Nice shack Greg! I wouldn't lose any sleep about sharing (showing off) the new place. I cant afford a pro built car but I can get great ideas and learn something from the build threads. I'm at the opposite end of the money scale, saving for not only wheels but trusses and a new roof...it's just money right?

It's always entertaining reading about your builds, as the kids say, this is going to be epic!
Is the shed big enough to load/unload inside?

:cheers:
Dan

[GregWeld]

Nice shack Greg! I wouldn't lose any sleep about sharing (showing off) the new place. I cant afford a pro built car but I can get great ideas and learn something from the build threads. I'm at the opposite end of the money scale, saving for not only wheels but trusses and a new roof...it's just money right?

It's always entertaining reading about your builds, as the kids say, this is going to be epic!
Is the shed big enough to load/unload inside?

:cheers:
Dan




YES IT IS

[HEEP]

Weld,
You need to do the build thread on this. We can always put it to a vote for ya:idea: :secret:

Bill

[GregWeld]

Weld,
You need to do the build thread on this. We can always put it to a vote for ya:idea: :secret:

Bill



Thanks Bill --- But I'm really thinking it's inappropriate... Maybe the shop portion of the house -- 'cause that pertains and could be interesting to others... but I'm not sure I want to share the rest of it. That just doesn't feel right to me.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Thanks Bill --- But I'm really thinking it's inappropriate... Maybe the shop portion of the house -- 'cause that pertains and could be interesting to others... but I'm not sure I want to share the rest of it. That just doesn't feel right to me.

I agree...and you know there's a chance I'm right.

:D

[DBasher]

I say to hell with the house, that's private for the most part. I'd be interested in seeing the concrete box being built, mechanicals, lighting, yada yada.

Share what you want and what you feel comfortable with, I'm sure it's not the first time you've been inappropriate!

:buttkick:
Dan

[HEEP]

I'd be cool with that. we do need to see the new shed. I'm sure it will be awesome. I just love seeing the behind the scenes of builds, whether its cars or houses or garages.
Besides, we would never want you to be inappropriate.:lmao:




Thanks Bill --- But I'm really thinking it's inappropriate... Maybe the shop portion of the house -- 'cause that pertains and could be interesting to others... but I'm not sure I want to share the rest of it. That just doesn't feel right to me.

[GregWeld]

I'd be cool with that. we do need to see the new shed. I'm sure it will be awesome. I just love seeing the behind the scenes of builds, whether its cars or houses or garages.
Besides, we would never want you to be inappropriate.:lmao:



Bill.... I know people love stuff like this. Nothing wrong with that. And I'm pretty sure everyone on here knows I'm pretty good at sharing. The house will be pretty dang kool. I'm a blue jeans wearing - dirty t-shirt guy. I do my own work on my cars... That's me... not the house I live in. These forums are public. Many more people reading than are members here. I just don't see the need to have them in my house. :>)

[Ketzer]

These forums are public. Many more people reading than are members here. I just don't see the need to have them in my house. :>)

Word. (i.e. agree)

Very easy to forget when sharing with internet "friends", we are putting all our business out there for the entire world to see... forever. What may seem innocent enough in a simple pic or description, could be used for bad.


Jeff-

[HEEP]

you know, since you put it that way, I understand entirely. I try to keep as much of the personal stuff off here myself. Just show us the shed.

Just wondering though, you going to have a lift for the rig? That will be impressive.:D

[GregWeld]

you know, since you put it that way, I understand entirely. I try to keep as much of the personal stuff off here myself. Just show us the shed.

Just wondering though, you going to have a lift for the rig? That will be impressive.:D



No lift for the rig... dude -- you ever see these things -- no reason to lift it - I can walk under it. LOL

[Che70velle]

Greg, I can't believe that one of your so called friends didn't throw a short joke in here concerning your last post.

[Sieg]

Greg, I can't believe that one of your so called friends didn't throw a short joke in here concerning your last post.

Why? I've watched him walk under it. :D

[GregWeld]

Just for "interest" in shop building and wild spaces and the kinds of things we like to do (all of us).... The plan for the new house here had about 4500 square feet of shop space UNDER the house... tall enough to take in the "rig" etc.

Well --- as it turns out -- to do that we'd have to haul off 20,000 cubic yards of dirt... that's 2,000 dump truck loads -- and where they'd have to haul it and then make that a round trip -- would equal 46,000 "truck miles". There's even more too it - but that gets complicated to explain. So that "shop" is O U T.....


We're now designing a more normal shop what will be a separate building on the property. A lot less dirt to be moved... and a lot less concrete... The other one just became an OMG...

[HEEP]

For some reason, I can just see you going Really.....???????:hairpullout:

[GregWeld]

For some reason, I can just see you going Really.....???????:hairpullout:

I always knew there was going to be an X / Y axis of cost to build versus buying a commercial building -- or "whatever" other alternative. But in order to get a real bonafide bid for construction -- we had to have all the plans and engineering done --- so we forged ahead in order to get all that detail.

The problems with it became "many"... but we continued on.


The excavation bid --- and the concrete bid.... are just astronomical. I could buy FOUR complete tractor trailer rigs like mine and leave them in various locations -- and have them stocked with 2 cars each --- and I'd still be saving money.


I have them drawing up a 2000 square foot two story shop ( have to have a man cave area) where we don't need to move nearly as much heaven and earth ---- and it's not under the house -- so the walls etc don't have to carry that whole load.

We don't always get what we want.... :>)

[SSLance]

That just goes to show Greg, that just because you can do something doesn't always mean that you should.

I know you are disappointed but I also know that common sense must have prevailed in this and the whole project will be better in the end because of it. You did your due diligence in collecting all of the facts beforehand and that's the only way smart decisions can be made.

Good luck with Plan B, I'm sure it'll be just as awesome, just different is all.

[Ketzer]

Not ideal but what about building the mancave offsite? Go to an industrial area in town and build on flat ground? Seems like that setup has gotten popular of late with some impressive results.


Jeff-

[GregWeld]

Jeff ---


I've had a year to think about all the "what if's" and like most everything - it all depends on the person and their particular situation.

I can buy a great building about 10 miles down the road for 1/3rd of what the excavation and cement bids were... but then I'm having to get in the car - go down somewhere and blah blah blah.

My trade off is to have the shop mere feet from my favorite chair... I'm old... and not getting any younger... I like the convenience of just being "home". I'd rather have a smaller shop at home than a bigger shop 10 miles down the road. The larger shop under the house was mostly taken up by truck and trailer storage. So the net shop space wasn't much larger than what I have now.

I'll just figure out where to store the rig... which isn't used very much - and if it was 10 miles down the road - no biggie.

[Stuart Adams]

Should be cool. At the end of the day everyone has a ceiling for what is reasonable.


Looking forward to seeing this puppy go up.

[SSLance]

I understand what Greg is saying completely. I have a full shop at my disposal here at work, two post and drive on lifts, bead blaster, all kinds of fun stuff, but it's 17 miles from home. When I did the first half of the restoration on my car I did it at work, mainly because of the lifts. It sucks when you want a particular tool, or just a sammich...and you are 17 miles from home. You end up not doing whatever it is until the next time.

Plus, you have to plan out the time for your projects...there is no run out to the shop for a quick measure of something or to snap a picture to post on lat-g, when the shop is 17 miles away.

Ever since I put my lift in at home, I took ALL of my tools back home and do all of my work there now. It is so much easier and better. I do store my trailers here at work though when I'm not using them regularly. And while that can be a hassle or hindrance every now and then, it's no where near as bad as storing my tools and cars away from home.

[Sieg]

Back to the drawing board!

http://30daystox.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Wily-Coyote.jpg

You'll figure it out!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Z1anJsmT6bo/TEXO0AezTFI/AAAAAAAAL2c/UKMUTBQ3u34/s400/tumblr_l5fi18qMZA1qz7lxdo1_500.png

[fleetus macmullitz]

Back to the drawing board!

http://30daystox.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Wily-Coyote.jpg

You'll figure it out!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Z1anJsmT6bo/TEXO0AezTFI/AAAAAAAAL2c/UKMUTBQ3u34/s400/tumblr_l5fi18qMZA1qz7lxdo1_500.png

:lol:

Nuttin like the classics.

[GregWeld]

I understand what Greg is saying completely. I have a full shop at my disposal here at work, two post and drive on lifts, bead blaster, all kinds of fun stuff, but it's 17 miles from home. When I did the first half of the restoration on my car I did it at work, mainly because of the lifts. It sucks when you want a particular tool, or just a sammich...and you are 17 miles from home. You end up not doing whatever it is until the next time.

Plus, you have to plan out the time for your projects...there is no run out to the shop for a quick measure of something or to snap a picture to post on lat-g, when the shop is 17 miles away.

Ever since I put my lift in at home, I took ALL of my tools back home and do all of my work there now. It is so much easier and better. I do store my trailers here at work though when I'm not using them regularly. And while that can be a hassle or hindrance every now and then, it's no where near as bad as storing my tools and cars away from home.



PRECISELY!!! Well -- that --- and I'm a spoiled rotten little brat!

[Sparks67]

Well --- as it turns out -- to do that we'd have to haul off 20,000 cubic yards of dirt... that's 2,000 dump truck loads -- and where they'd have to haul it and then make that a round trip -- would equal 46,000 "truck miles". There's even more too it - but that gets complicated to explain. So that "shop" is O U T.....

Some people just give the dirt away, so you have the people move it out for you. Just rent a loader for a week and load them up. Anyway, this guy has your garage beat!

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82863230/ (Full video)

5r29R1tJRRw

[GregWeld]

Yeah -- he needs a garage like that for all his mini-vans








Some people just give the dirt away, so you have the people move it out for you. Just rent a loader for a week and load them up. Anyway, this guy has your garage beat!

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82863230/ (Full video)

5r29R1tJRRw

[glassman]

he has another something in there he's not showing....or that was a colosal waste of coin. But i heard him say something earlier about having millions of dollars of cars down there....

[GregWeld]

Yeah -- he said he ONCE had 30 million in cars stored there....


I just want a couple cars that I can drive and enjoy. My wife keeps reminding me that there is other stuff to do besides cars. As usual - she's right.

[Wissing72]

Just for "interest" in shop building and wild spaces and the kinds of things we like to do (all of us).... The plan for the new house here had about 4500 square feet of shop space UNDER the house... tall enough to take in the "rig" etc.

Well --- as it turns out -- to do that we'd have to haul off 20,000 cubic yards of dirt... that's 2,000 dump truck loads -- and where they'd have to haul it and then make that a round trip -- would equal 46,000 "truck miles". There's even more too it - but that gets complicated to explain. So that "shop" is O U T.....


:brix: :brix:




I just want a couple cars that I can drive and enjoy. My wife keeps reminding me that there is other stuff to do besides cars. As usual - she's right.
:snapout::buttkick: They usually are....

[Sparks67]

Yeah -- he said he ONCE had 30 million in cars stored there....


I just want a couple cars that I can drive and enjoy. My wife keeps reminding me that there is other stuff to do besides cars. As usual - she's right.

He sold his 400 car collection in the past few years. http://www.squidoo.com/the-man-who-built-a-5-million-garage-for-his-chevy-cruze Tom has sold many of his highest-profile pieces in the last few years, including a McLaren F1 and a Ferrari F50.
House was up For Sale too. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424053111903480904576512741634631516?mg=ren o64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB1000 1424053111903480904576512741634631516.html

http://i44.tinypic.com/ublf.jpg