The Mule

[clill]

It's official. I am selling the Mule in January at Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale. Sale day is Sat January 18. Car is selling at no reserve. It will find a new owner.

[Sieg]

:( Good luck.........this will be interesting.

[will69camaro]

How long does it take to receive payment for selling a Kidney? Or a spare Arm/Leg?

I need to make this happen...

[Streetking]

I'll start.. $100.00

[Sieg]

$200!!!

.......it's not every day I'll have the opportunity to double SW's bid on a car :D

[Formula43 Wheel]

Good Luck! Hopefully the new owner will use it for what it was built for and not stick in a museum somewhere.

[RussMurco]

Mule?! Never heard of it! :confused59:

[KPC67]

Awesome!
I am planning on going so I will be sure to check it out. If someone wants me to bid with their money I can do that!
:mock:

[427]

What kind of car is a "Mule"?


Kurt

[Bowtieracing]

What kind of car is a "Mule"?


Kurt

If you need to ask....:willy:




... You have to order the book.. http://www.markstielow.com

[Vince@Meanstreets]

hate to see it go. I hope the new owner can appreciate it for what the car represents....by driving the crap out of it.

[mdprovee]

"Say it aint so Joe"

Charley, best of luck at the sale.

Maybe it can be Greg's backup to the backup car.

[JohnC]

Good Luck, Charley. Do you get to drive it up on stage?

I hope it gets some air time ... :tv_happy:

[sik68]

Willing to part out?

[Rybar]

GLWS my favorite ever Steilow built car

[hifi875]

One of the most iconic if not the most iconic pro-touring car of all time. Hope it brings big bucks$$$!!!

[hifi875]

Good Luck, Charley. Do you get to drive it up on stage?

I hope it gets some air time ... :tv_happy:

He can if he wants to. They allow that at bj

[groovyjay]

GLWS Charlie, this is the car why most of us are doing the Pro Touring thing.

[coolwelder62]

Wouldn't the Ft.Worth stock yard's be a better place to try and sell a mule.:poke:GLWS.

[fleetus macmullitz]

No LS...no interest.




:D

[V8TV]

I might have to go out there for this one. Been planning to go anyway, but it's always fun to see cars you know do their thing!

[LS7 Z/28]

Good luck with the sale Charley, Now that SPEED is no more, will the auction air on Fox Sports 2? Anybody know? I want to watch it roll across the block.

[JohnC]

Good luck with the sale Charley, Now that SPEED is no more, will the auction air on Fox Sports 2? Anybody know? I want to watch it roll across the block.

Yes, the Fox Sports channel (that SPEED used to be) will still air Barrett Jackson...

[gray776]

I will be there to watch it go! GLWS!

[camcojb]

What kind of car is a "Mule"?


Kurt

If you need to ask....:willy:




... You have to order the book.. http://www.markstielow.com

427 Kurt is Kurt Urban. His shop Wheel to Wheel built and installed the twin turbo that's in the Mule. Methinks Kurt was being funny. :lol:

[LS7 Z/28]

Yes, the Fox Sports channel (that SPEED used to be) will still air Barrett Jackson...

Looking forward to wasting hours watching it!

[tubbed69]

I hope their TV coverage is better than Speed Channel was,loved speed channel but their Barrett Jackson coverage sucked,only show a couple cars per hour if your lucky.I would like to be there for this one.GLWS.

[tones2SS]

Man, that is a killer car. Hate to see it go Charlie. If I only had the funds,... :y0!:
GLWS in AZ!

[Flash68]

427 Kurt is Kurt Urban. His shop Wheel to Wheel built and installed the twin turbo that's in the Mule. Methinks Kurt was being funny. :lol:

I was pretty sure there was some facetiousness going on there. :D

[hotwhls]

Do you have a lot number for the Mule yet?

[Shmoov69]

The what.....??!! LoL!

Good luck man, wish I had some (actually lots of!) expendable income!!

[Bowtieracing]

427 Kurt is Kurt Urban. His shop Wheel to Wheel built and installed the twin turbo that's in the Mule. Methinks Kurt was being funny. :lol:

Ouch.... I bought it with flying colors :thankyou:

[JohnC]

Looking forward to wasting hours watching it!

Me too...:thumbsup:

[Wissing72]

I think I may be heading down there for the event. I can't wait to see this car in person.

[glassman]

I'll be havin a Barrett/Jackson "gathering" at my house that weekend in January, haven a few car guys over to watch the circus. I really enjoy watching most of the auctions, all of them:popcorn2:

I'll of course be looking most forward to this sale....

[427]

Oh that Mule! I remember building one engine for Mark that had no turbochargers, then Charley complained. Was a bunch of fun running it around Detroit getting the cal worked out.

Kurt427 Kurt is Kurt Urban. His shop Wheel to Wheel built and installed the twin turbo that's in the Mule. Methinks Kurt was being funny. :lol:

[kwhizz]

"Beater"...........

[Stuart Adams]

"Beater"...........

Good one. :lol: :lol:

[clill]

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=5019&aid=525

[Rybar]

Good luck Charley, hopefully most of the people that go to BJ understand and appreciate how iconic this car is.

It fully deserves to bring big money and go to an appreciative buyer.

Too bad the short write up couldn't detail anymore how awesome this car is.

[redsand]

where is the founding car that started the Pro-street movement.....

Somewhere the j2000??(Pontiac) or the old pink SHO maybe that dobberson built? I remember seeing those cars at street machine nationals in south bend indiana back in the day. Miles of tweed....

Just askin..... Dont mean to be a downer...I know that the mule is the poster child but wasn't the yellow car that Kyle built really start the "movement"?

[MarkM66]

where is the founding car that started the Pro-street movement.....

Somewhere the j2000??(Pontiac) or the old pink SHO maybe that dobberson built? I remember seeing those cars at street machine nationals in south bend indiana back in the day. Miles of tweed....

Just askin..... Dont mean to be a downer...I know that the mule is the poster child but wasn't the yellow car that Kyle built really start the "movement"?

All that's debatable, but Stielow was doing pro-touring Camaro's way before Kyle's yellow car (Twister) was out. I remember Kyles "Twister", and Stielow's "Thrasher" at GG Columbus way back when, maybe '00 or so. Both got a SMOY top 5. Kyle won.

[jimbo]

where is the founding car that started the Pro-street movement.....

Somewhere the j2000??(Pontiac) or the old pink SHO maybe that dobberson built? I remember seeing those cars at street machine nationals in south bend indiana back in the day. Miles of tweed....

Just askin..... Dont mean to be a downer...I know that the mule is the poster child but wasn't the yellow car that Kyle built really start the "movement"?
In 1993 Mark won the Car Craft Real Street Eliminator in a White 69 Camaro.
The car is still around. http://www.detroitspeed.com/Projects/Jeff-Hyosaka-1969-Camaro/Jeff-Hyosaka-1969-Camaro-pg-1.html
That was about the start of the "movement"
This was before the "Twister" was built.

[James OLC]

In 1993 Mark won the Car Craft Real Street Eliminator in a White 69 Camaro.
The car is still around. http://www.detroitspeed.com/Projects/Jeff-Hyosaka-1969-Camaro/Jeff-Hyosaka-1969-Camaro-pg-1.html
That was about the start of the "movement"
This was before the "Twister" was built.

Tri Tip - it, along with Big Red, we're huge influences; happy to say that the she and the OLC have spent a couple of nights together.

Charlie - best of luck at Barrett Jackson!

[redsand]

I stand corrected. Thanks for the history guys....

Charlie you don't need any luck....This car is going to go for a whole lot of money.....I just hope it goes to a good home :)

[1badsc]

make sure the dang car starts and runs !!!! LOL good luck Charlie was nice to see you in Chicago

[Mayhem]

For me Big Red showed me it was possible for my car to do it all.

The Mule showed me that you do not need a big name high dollar shop to do everything. I do everything myself in my garage since I have no money and love the car more because of it. Thanks Mark!

Make no mistake If I had the money I would contract a build, or better yet bid at the auction.

[Seeing Red]

Hope it brings BIG BUCKS! Love that car. Still have that poster hanging above my tool box.

[GregWeld]

make sure the dang car starts and runs !!!! LOL good luck Charlie was nice to see you in Chicago




OUCH…..

[GregWeld]

My Nomad will be at BJ this January as well…. it should bring at least 1/10th what The Mule should rake in.

[glassman]

Greg, what lot#?

[camcojb]

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=5019&aid=525

[SSLance]

Got the color magazine\book in the mail from BJ today, nice write up and pics of The Mule in it. I'll try to scan or get pics of it to post tomorrow.

[Wissing72]

It is going to be neat to see some of these cars that are on the forum that we have read about. I hope to even catch up with a couple of you guys. I will have the El Camino going across the block as well.

[Ketzer]

I know that cameras roll the entire time, it's a shame you can't view the complete auction footage. I'm sure there is a reason they show some cars and not others but they always seem to miss cool stuff I want to see. I end up just recording the televised deal and fast forward through 99% of it.


Jeff-

[GregWeld]

I know that cameras roll the entire time, it's a shame you can't view the complete auction footage. I'm sure there is a reason they show some cars and not others but they always seem to miss cool stuff I want to see. I end up just recording the televised deal and fast forward through 99% of it.


Jeff-




You do understand there's a fix for this dilemma right???

[SSLance]

Not the best pics...but gives an idea of the coverage in the book The Mule got...

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FX_J9igoGNg/UsLiHCEhqQI/AAAAAAAALmg/myAjPh1nbXk/w802-h562-no/IMG_20131231_092221_098.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-XQ_GJcWEsvo/UsLiHO6YA3I/AAAAAAAALmc/MKYQHXE8k2I/w682-h562-no/IMG_20131231_091922_091.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l4XaeQuPXiQ/UsLiGpfW1gI/AAAAAAAALmY/ddjZjry2wrM/w428-h562-no/IMG_20131231_091039_618.jpg

[camcojb]

Sounds great at WOT. :thumbsup:

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[camcojb]

Rear view.

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[Ketzer]

You do understand there's a fix for this dilemma right???

Yes GW, I do know there is a fix... but you refuse to adopt another son, sooooo...

I have to budget out each year my trips, parts for projects, and tools. Which I am NOT complaining about. Gives me a chance to look forward to, get, and thoroughly enjoy each one. I'm very lucky to have any of it. Barrett is on my trip bucket list (along with GNRS, Hot Aug Nights, etc.).



Jeff-

[GregWeld]

Yes GW, I do know there is a fix... but you refuse to adopt another son, sooooo...

I have to budget out each year my trips, parts for projects, and tools. Which I am NOT complaining about. Gives me a chance to look forward to, get, and thoroughly enjoy each one. I'm very lucky to have any of it. Barrett is on my trip bucket list (along with GNRS, Hot Aug Nights, etc.).



Jeff-




Cancel everything else you ever had planned and get yourself front row seats to watch EL MULE roll the big blocks.... What could possibly trump that!!


You could hang with Charley up in the skybox... and help bid up the car!!

[hifi875]

Yep skybox 1 is the best seats in the house. I was fortunate to be able to sit there all day on Saturday this past year!!

[Stuart Adams]

SW 's old Black 69 going off also FYI. Should be cool to see this unfold.

[GregWeld]

SW 's old Black 69 going off also FYI. Should be cool to see this unfold.



You know you could have posted the link and saved the rest of us some time searching for it....


Hey! Happy New Year.


http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=1263&aid=525

:slingshot:

[clill]

I forgot how cool that video was watching the headers start to glow. I think that was the simulated 200 mph run where it inputs wind resistance correction factors. As I recall, if we had traction it would hit 200 mph in 8/10's of a mile.

[GregWeld]

Thus the reason for these little heat letter outers..... Oh yeah!






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Charlies%20Cars/TheMulehoodoverheadshot.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Charlies%20Cars/TheMulehoodoverheadshot.jpg.html)







http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Charlies%20Cars/TheMulenewhood.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Charlies%20Cars/TheMulenewhood.jpg.html)

[clill]

That was a NOS GM cowl hood we punched those louvers in. Glad we got it right the first time.

[Stuart Adams]

You know you could have posted the link and saved the rest of us some time searching for it....


Hey! Happy New Year.


http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=1263&aid=525

:slingshot:

Happy New Year. You da man.

[WSSix]

Holy crap! I never knew those hood louvers where there. Those look great.

[WILWAXU]

Cancel everything else you ever had planned and get yourself front row seats to watch EL MULE roll the big blocks.... What could possibly trump that!!
I'm doing exactly that. 20+ hour plane trip, it better be a good show :D

[GregWeld]

I'm doing exactly that. 20+ hour plane trip, it better be a good show :D




John -- Just follow Lillard around with a wheelbarrow full of money... you'll have a great time!

[V8TV]

Just for fun, we're holding a GUESS THE HIGH BID on the MULE contest!

Winner gets a SIGNED COPY of the PRO-TOURING ENGINEERED PERFORMANCE BOOK featuring the MULE build (Courtesy of Charley) and some V8TV DVDs and stuff!

Contest closes at NOON CENTRAL on 1/18 before the car crosses the block. Highest guess without going over wins!

Post your guess here:

http://www.v8tvshow.com/forum/index.php/topic,12018.0.html

Good luck!

[MattO]

Just follow Lillard around with a wheelbarrow full of money... you'll have a great time!

This is advice you can use in your everyday life.

[jimbo]

Just for fun, we're holding a GUESS THE HIGH BID on the MULE contest!

Winner gets a SIGNED COPY of the PRO-TOURING ENGINEERED PERFORMANCE BOOK featuring the MULE build (Courtesy of Charley) and some V8TV DVDs and stuff!

Contest closes at NOON CENTRAL on 1/18 before the car crosses the block. Highest guess without going over wins!

Post your guess here:

http://www.v8tvshow.com/forum/index.php/topic,12018.0.html

Good luck!


The actual bid amount or the sale price listed on the B-J site?

[V8TV]

Let's go with the highest bid.

[hifi875]

$235,000

[V8TV]

$235,000

Gotta post on our site to win the goodies!

[protour73]

Gotta post on our site to win the goodies!

How do we do that Kevin?

[GregWeld]

Gotta post on our site to win the goodies!



I tried - it was too complicated.

[zz430droptop67rs]

Question, if 2 or more bidders are correct, which one wins? :headscratch:

[camcojb]

Question, if 2 or more bidders are correct, which one wins? :headscratch:
I would think it would go to whomever posted the correct guess first. :D

[zz430droptop67rs]

I would think it would go to whomever posted the correct guess first. :D


Cool, I'm in :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

I think the value is 250 but I'm in at 192

[camcojb]

Make sure you guys are putting your guesses in on V8TV's site (http://www.v8tvshow.com/forum/index.php/topic,12018.0.html)!

[V8TV]

I would think it would go to whomever posted the correct guess first. :D

We've got the rules posted on our site. 2 correct guesses, winner is first posted. Closest to actual bid without going over wins.

Just learned that the signed book will be by Charley and Stielow! Too cool.

[GregWeld]

Just learned that the signed book will be by Charley and Stielow! Too cool.



Now that I know that -- can I withdraw my guess?

[clill]

Mule is headed to Scottsdale. I didn't think I would get this depressed.

[GregWeld]

Personally -- I'm still in shock that you're selling this Icon....



That's not just any ol' '69 Camaro --- It's THE MULE!



But cars should be a "sail it or sell it" decision unless you want to be a museum -- let someone else use it if you're not going to.

[Sieg]

I feel for you Charlie. It's not just another dime a dozen Camaro. But I can understand the decision having Mayhem in barn.

[Ketzer]

Personally -- I'm still in shock that you're selling this Icon....



That's not just any ol' '69 Camaro --- It's THE MULE!



But cars should be a "sail it or sell it" decision unless you want to be a museum -- let someone else use it if you're not going to.

I was curious about this too but skeered to ask. Can't be money or space. How do you get sick of having the Mule around to enjoy? Especially when you have the evolution of the Stielow brand sitting around it?


Jeff-

[clill]

I'm not sick of it but I'm not doing it any favors by just letting it sit. I could use the money and I turned 60 last year. At some point you start getting rid of stuff to simplify your life. I sat and asked myself if I was ever really going to use it anymore and said "no". I took Mayhem to Laguna Seca on the day after Thanksgiving and have not driven it since. Just not driving them as much as I used to. Me and my Wife did four Power Tours in the Mule plus a bunch of Hot August Nights Reno etc. Every part of that car is cool.

[fleetus macmullitz]

I was curious about this too but skeered to ask. Can't be money or space. How do you get sick of having the Mule around to enjoy? Especially when you have the evolution of the Stielow brand sitting around it?


Jeff-

Different strokers for different folk heroes...;)

[hifi875]

I just hope who ever buys it will enjoy it. It's THE standard for pro touring cars and what it's 10 yrs old.

[Vegas69]

I'm not sick of it but I'm not doing it any favors by just letting it sit. I could use the money and I turned 60 last year. At some point you start getting rid of stuff to simplify your life. I sat and asked myself if I was ever really going to use it anymore and said "no". I took Mayhem to Laguna Seca on the day after Thanksgiving and have not driven it since. Just not driving them as much as I used to. Me and my Wife did four Power Tours in the Mule plus a bunch of Hot August Nights Reno etc. Every part of that car is cool.

I'm 36 and ready to do the same. Somebody will get a great car... Win/Win

[Wissing72]

I'm not sick of it but I'm not doing it any favors by just letting it sit. I could use the money and I turned 60 last year. At some point you start getting rid of stuff to simplify your life. I sat and asked myself if I was ever really going to use it anymore and said "no". I took Mayhem to Laguna Seca on the day after Thanksgiving and have not driven it since. Just not driving them as much as I used to. Me and my Wife did four Power Tours in the Mule plus a bunch of Hot August Nights Reno etc. Every part of that car is cool.

Well put, and you got to use it and enjoy it for the time you had it. I cant wait to see it in person.

[GregWeld]

So at the risk of sounding kind of "snobby" or whatever you want to label it... and I don't want to come off that way AT ALL... anyone that knows Charley -- or knows me -- would tell you that we're not aloof or car snobs or anything of the kind.


But when you have several cars... and have had many -- and many of them the best of the best... then after awhile you look at your cars a little differently. We know we can buy more if we want to. We know this is not the last hurrah... it ain't the first goat rodeo and it likely won't be the last. So it's not like many people that have finally built the car of their dreams and spend years doing it -- or put their life and soul into it. And for most folks -- I can understand how they would look at THEIR car and never imagine selling it.

I wish now that I hadn't sold a couple of the 50 + cars I've owned... but really - 2 out of 50? That I really really wished I hadn't sold... and one of them is owned by my a buddy and he's trying to sell it back to me all the time... but I know why I sold it - and that hasn't changed (it's a super low original mile '67 Vette L79 Coupe -- driving it is ruining it).


So what I'm trying to say is that the REASONS for selling are different... and a lot of it has to do more with "use" than lack of love. But reality sets in and you look around and realize that you haven't driven something for a couple years!! And we all know that's not good for a car. When that happens it's time to pass it on to someone else.

We'd all love to be able to buy and keep every car we ever wanted -- but even for folks that are pretty well set -- there's limits. Limited time - limited space - and limited funds - and limited interest.

Watching this icon go across the block will be exciting for ALL of us to watch. And I'm 100% certain we all want to see it hit big numbers... because that lifts all of our spirits. It validates what we're doing. So best of luck to a guy I like to call my friend - with his iconic sale.

[Che70velle]

Wait a minute Greg. He's your friend? I thought you said you hated him? :catfight:

[camcojb]

Wait a minute Greg. He's your friend? I thought you said you hated him? :catfight:
Depends on the day, and how much money Charley is costing him. :lol:

[GregWeld]

Depends on the day, and how much money Charley is costing him. :lol:



^^^^^^^ What he said!!


Besides - when Charley sees it's me posting he just hits the delete button...so he'll never read the it.

[fleetus macmullitz]

So at the risk of sounding kind of "snobby" or whatever you want to label it... and I don't want to come off that way AT ALL... anyone that knows Charley -- or knows me -- would tell you that we're not aloof or car snobs or anything of the kind.


But when you have several cars... and have had many -- and many of them the best of the best... then after awhile you look at your cars a little differently. We know we can buy more if we want to. We know this is not the last hurrah... it ain't the first goat rodeo and it likely won't be the last. So it's not like many people that have finally built the car of their dreams and spend years doing it -- or put their life and soul into it. And for most folks -- I can understand how they would look at THEIR car and never imagine selling it.

I wish now that I hadn't sold a couple of the 50 + cars I've owned... but really - 2 out of 50? That I really really wished I hadn't sold... and one of them is owned by my a buddy and he's trying to sell it back to me all the time... but I know why I sold it - and that hasn't changed (it's a super low original mile '67 Vette L79 Coupe -- driving it is ruining it).


So what I'm trying to say is that the REASONS for selling are different... and a lot of it has to do more with "use" than lack of love. But reality sets in and you look around and realize that you haven't driven something for a couple years!! And we all know that's not good for a car. When that happens it's time to pass it on to someone else.

We'd all love to be able to buy and keep every car we ever wanted -- but even for folks that are pretty well set -- there's limits. Limited time - limited space - and limited funds - and limited interest.

Watching this icon go across the block will be exciting for ALL of us to watch. And I'm 100% certain we all want to see it hit big numbers... because that lifts all of our spirits. It validates what we're doing. So best of luck to a guy I like to call my friend - with his iconic sale.

Well said Greg.

[fleetus macmullitz]

I'm not sick of it but I'm not doing it any favors by just letting it sit. I could use the money and I turned 60 last year. At some point you start getting rid of stuff to simplify your life. I sat and asked myself if I was ever really going to use it anymore and said "no". I took Mayhem to Laguna Seca on the day after Thanksgiving and have not driven it since. Just not driving them as much as I used to. Me and my Wife did four Power Tours in the Mule plus a bunch of Hot August Nights Reno etc. Every part of that car is cool.

The positive that will come out of this Charlie is that you may be losing The Mule, but you have thousands of your bestest lat-g buddies (who btw you like so much), and we will be here for you in your time of loss.

:tiptoe:

[RussMurco]

I would imagine that owning a car like that, or the 1969 ZL1 Corvette, or any number of historic, rare, sought after cars makes you more of a temporary care-taker than anything else. There are classic cars I lust after but would never want to own simply because I would kill the value by driving them like they were meant to be driven.
A car like this should be driven and if Charlie can recognize he won't be giving it the exercise it deserves, well, that shows what a stand-up kind of guy he is.
Good luck, Charlie, I'll be glued to the TV!

[V8TV]

The Mule is a car that will probably go to an enthusiastic buyer who knows what it is and will be very happy to own it... I think that alone should erase any seller's remorse.

[INTMD8]

but I know why I sold it - and that hasn't changed (it's a super low original mile '67 Vette L79 Coupe -- driving it is ruining it).


Good post but I just want to comment on this bit ^

I don't agree that driving it is ruining it. You could run it up to 100k miles and keep it in near perfect condition. Would it depreciate due to the mileage? Surely, but much less than say a new Benz.

[Ketzer]

Good post but I just want to comment on this bit ^

I don't agree that driving it is ruining it. You could run it up to 100k miles and keep it in near perfect condition. Would it depreciate due to the mileage? Surely, but much less than say a new Benz.

... and who wouldn't jump at the chance to buy a car GW put 100k miles on?!? It would be nine times better than new knowing him and the stories that would go with it... priceless.

Jeff-

[Stielow]

Mule is headed to Scottsdale. I didn't think I would get this depressed.

I'll miss this car. I sold it to Charley 10 years ago, but he has always allowed me to still play with it. So I knew it was in good hands and I could go see it anytime. Charley has taken great care of it and understood that it was a hot rod and sometimes cars break. Charley and I have grown into good friends over the years and I really appreciate that he has always taken great care of all my old cars. I hope the new owner understands the history of this car and takes care of it as well as Charley did.

I’m bummed I can't see it sold at Barrett Jackson but I just don’t have time to go. I’m too slammed building the new 2014i Z/28. I have been very fortunate to be able to keep building cars at work and at home and keep learning and growing. When I get a chance to drive an old project, like the Mule I always have a ton of memories. It was an odd feeling two years ago when I fired up Mayhem for the maiden voyage. It was like all the previous cars but different. I could access a file in my head and just build on that.

I wish Charley the best on selling the Mule. The other cars have the Mules DNA in them so the Mule will never be totally gone.

Mark

[LS7 Z/28]

I’m too slammed building the new 2014i Z/28.

Mark

Not to take away from the intense sentiment of the conversation, but Mark where does the i in the 2014i Z28 come from. In progress?

I think that the new Z28 is one of the coolest things GM has decided to do in a long time, aside from continuing to improve on the Corvette platforms. I just really hope that you guys get the sales numbers that you need because I think that your target demographic is very limited. I would love to be able to buy one but I am just not able to. The Z/28 is basically what most of the guys on this site are striving to build, but in a modern version. It's an incredibly cool project and I hope you are very proud of it.


Charley as I said a while back good luck with the sale. I know that I don't know you personally but I appreciate what you do for the car community. Very few guys would allow someone to still be involved with a project that they sold to someone else, even if that someone was Mark Stielow. I hope you keep collecting because you have quite a cool group of cars and they are in good hands. Good luck.

[Stielow]

Sorry that is a GM term. 2014i is model year 2014 interim. Because it is a mid year introduction.

[clill]

Realized I forgot these pics.

[clill]

GM design studio when they were designing the current Camaro.

[Sieg]

With the Big Guns in that picture it is priceless!

[glassman]

I just love that license plate, just simple perfect statement.

[Track Junky]

Charlie, I don't doubt you will miss the car. If it doesn't go to someone we know we all will. But don't forget that you have a lot of pic's and memories. Memories cant be sold.

[Vegas69]

The car is timeless.... I still remember the TV feature. It was a major contributor to the sickness.

[Che70velle]

It should be made a stipulation of the sale, that whosoever purchases this vehicle must become a member here (if not already one), and update regularly.
:thumbsup:

[WILWAXU]

John -- Just follow Lillard around with a wheelbarrow full of money... you'll have a great time!

He's already got a mob around him :D

[SSLance]

So Tom Jensen is covering Barrett Jackson for Sports Fox this week. I've been following him on twitter

tom jensen ‏@tomjensen100 30m
Here's a gallery of Corvettes I shot #barrettjackson. Link here: http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/photos/photos-corvettes-set-for-auction-at-barrett-jackson-scottsdale-011314 …

Pretty certain that's El Mule in the background of this picture...no?

http://msn.foxsports.com/content/fsdigital/fscom/nascar/photos/2014/01/13/photos-corvettes-set-for-auction-at-barrett-jackson-scottsdale/jcr:content/galleryContent/galleryList/slide_12/image.adapt.gallery.large.jpg

[WSSix]

Looks like it is to me as well.

[camcojb]

Pretty certain that's El Mule in the background of this picture...no?

http://msn.foxsports.com/content/fsdigital/fscom/nascar/photos/2014/01/13/photos-corvettes-set-for-auction-at-barrett-jackson-scottsdale/jcr:content/galleryContent/galleryList/slide_12/image.adapt.gallery.large.jpg
Definitely. Louvered hood makes it a lock. :D

[Rybar]

Sorry for being dumb, but when is my favorite pro-touring Camaro Ever going to air?

[clill]

Sorry for being dumb, but when is my favorite pro-touring Camaro Ever going to air?

Next Saturday they start the Salon collection sale at 1:00 pm Arizona time. The Mule is the 19th car in. 5019. If they spend about 3 minutes a car it will go around 2:00pm

[Bryan O]

Next Saturday they start the Salon collection sale at 1:00 pm Arizona time. The Mule is the 19th car in. 5019. If they spend about 3 minutes a car it will go around 2:00pm

I dunno. Somehow the terms "Salon" and "The Mule" just don't fit together.

[glassman]

Just think wild Wild West and it will make sense......

[GregWeld]

Given the bidding I've seen so far --- EL Mule fetches 400K

[Sieg]

Given the bidding I've seen so far --- EL Mule fetches 400K
Perfect, then he can order his mauve topped '33.

[GregWeld]

Perfect, then he can order his mauve topped '33.




Ya know -- The Briz won't build a car for just anybody.


Just sayin'

[Rybar]

A friend tells me SW's old black 69 is there as well. Please report on that sale would like to see how they compare.

[jimbo]

A friend tells me SW's old black 69 is there as well. Please report on that sale would like to see how they compare.

Is this the car?

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=1263&aid=525

[Stuart Adams]

I feel good for the guys selling this year . The money clips look as loose as a hooker on pay day. Awesome.

[Wissing72]

I feel good for the guys selling this year . The money clips look as loose as a hooker on pay day. Awesome.

O.K. that is funny right there...:lmao: :lmao: I hope your right. I am a little nervous after talking to some of the "critics" that had to share their opinions yesterday.... I am running through this evening. No telling what peoples taste is thats for sure. http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=499&aid=525

[V8TV]

O.K. that is funny right there...:lmao: :lmao: I hope your right. I am a little nervous after talking to some of the "critics" that had to share their opinions yesterday.... I am running through this evening. No telling what peoples taste is thats for sure. http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=499&aid=525

That is a great lookin' Camino... best of luck with the auction!

[Wissing72]

That is a great lookin' Camino... best of luck with the auction!

Thanks! we got through. I did O.K. Now onto the Chevelle. Good Luck Charlie. The car looks great!

[Stielow]

I'm going to Barrett Jackson now to see the Mule and VIN #001 Z/28 get auctioned off. Should be cool.

Mark

[Ricochet]

I'm going to Barrett Jackson now to see the Mule and VIN #001 Z/28 get auctioned off. Should be cool.

Mark

Right on! That should be cool. With the "Godfather" of Pro Touring there also endorsing Mule - I would think the price of Poker just went up! :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

I'm going to Barrett Jackson now to see the Mule and VIN #001 Z/28 get auctioned off. Should be cool.

Mark




Don't forget to take some books to sell!!!!

[Den69RS96]

Mark,

Did you sign the glove box door of each car. Then they would bring the big $$.

[Jay Hilliard]

I bet Rick Hendrick will win the Z28 auction just like the first ZL1 and ZR1.

[Stuart Adams]

I bet Rick Hendrick will win the Z28 auction just like the first ZL1 and ZR1.

You read my mind. I'm thinking he snags both. Both includes the Mule

[GregWeld]

You read my mind. I'm thinking he snags both. Both includes the Mule

I was sitting front row a couple years ago -- and wanted a nice '67 Vette that seemed to be stalled out at the right price -- so I put a bid in... Then another bidder jumped in -- I looked around and it's Hendrick sitting about 4 chairs away ... I quit bidding... you're not going to buy something that he wants. LOL


Don't know if you guys know this --- but the chairs are filled with the guys that spend the most money --- Ron Pratt is the center of the known universe -- his chairs are the very front row -- center.... the guys to the right and left have (over time) spent less - either as buyers or sellers... and rows back are less and so on. You can't even get into the area where the big boys sit -- The first 5 or 6 rows are roped off and guarded and their name is on the chair(s).
My neighbor has 4 chairs -- front row about 10 from the center... THUS I WAS ALLOWED TO SIT THERE... Pretty nice!

[clill]

.......

[GregWeld]

That's one hell of a spot there Mister Lillard!



You don't have to hang out with the Grease Monkey boys do you??

[KPC67]

I am planning on heading up to the auction today so I will swing by to check out el mule and say hi.

[V8TV]

The Mule is up in 5 cars!

[camcojb]

Next car I think.

[transam]

180 !

[Swain]

180 xxxx

[camcojb]

$180K. Congrats Charley!

[ccracin]

180k ! Congrats charley!

[hifi875]

Good price. I was hoping for a little more for you though. They just bought the most iconic 69 camaro

[Sieg]

Not too bad!

Did the '71 Vette at 400+ possibly stop it from breaking 200?

[Rod P]

http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx162/crazyshopmonkey/Barret%20Jackson/mule_zps90d1b4e2.jpg

:cheers:

[V8TV]

Good price. I was hoping for a little more for you though. They just bought the most iconic 69 camaro

I agree, someone got a great deal on that one!

[GregWeld]

A fair price.... lower than I hoped for but that's just a personal "wish" for Charley.


The way they've been throwing around money - I thought it might push 300K....

[DOOM]

Do we know who it went to?

[RussMurco]

I noticed the high bidder also bought that Barris monstrosity, Asteroid!

[GregWeld]

I noticed the high bidder also bought that Barris monstrosity, Asteroid!



Barris shoulda been a f'n comedienne....

[glassman]

So truu so truuu greg....haha

[SSLance]

Dang, I was pretty close. Guessed $174,900

[Boss 5.0]

I have always thought Barris was over rated. The only car he ever built that I like was the Hirahota Merc.

[FOMOGO]

I have always thought Barris was over rated. The only car he ever built that I like was the Hirahota Merc.


And that is the TRUTH!

[Jr]

The guy who bought the mule just purchased king cobra for 1.5 mil... Damn. Anybody know who he is? Very impressive purchases thus far.

[hifi875]

The guy who bought the mule just purchased king cobra for 1.5 mil... Damn. Anybody know who he is? Very impressive purchases thus far.

He has bought a bunch of stuff

[Bowtieracing]

Charlie, since the Mule is gone now can you tell us how driveable it was with TT in a long run?

Since early days of Lateral, there where many tt projects going on and now allmost none.

[GregWeld]

Charlie, since the Mule is gone now can you tell us how driveable it was with TT in a long run?

Since early days of Lateral, there where many tt projects going on and now allmost none.



You just answered your own question.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[will69camaro]

Damn hope that's not 100% correct. I'm working on one now...

[Musclerodz]

The guy who bought the mule just purchased king cobra for 1.5 mil... Damn. Anybody know who he is? Very impressive purchases thus far.

Didn't Pratt or the guy that bought Johnson's Cuda pay like $4-5m for it 4-5 years ago when Carrol sold it at BJ?

[Rybar]

Congrats on the sale Charley, that's a reasonable price.

Does anyone have any video of the auction? I deleted my TV recording by accident.

[INTMD8]

Damn hope that's not 100% correct. I'm working on one now...

TT kicks ass. You'll have no regrets if set up correctly.

[RussMurco]

There was all kinds of things that had me shaking my head going on at that auction but the take-away is our hobby seems to be healthy.
As for the Mule, did you all notice it sold for more than all the Ring Brothers cars?!

[clill]

Charlie, since the Mule is gone now can you tell us how driveable it was with TT in a long run?

Since early days of Lateral, there where many tt projects going on and now allmost none.

It was very drivable but if I were to do another car it would be another LS with the Eaton style supercharger like Jackass or Mayhem. Less weight and more useable power. The Mule had I think 9-1 compression. Unless you have your foot in it making boost you are driving a 9-1 compression car. It is really easy to drive but you don't have the part throttle zippiness like you do with the supercharged engine. I debated replacing the TT engine with a LS9 but didn't have the heart to do it and I really only need one car like this to drive. After a couple days of reflection I feel pretty good about the sales price considering it is a 11 year old car. The Mule didn't have the latest greatest interior, billet pieces etc but it also didn't have the latest trend pieces back when it was built. If it would have been built with the trendy pieces that were popular back then I don't think it would have brought the money. I think those Fikse wheels are still my favorite wheels.

[Musclerodz]

There was all kinds of things that had me shaking my head going on at that auction but the take-away is our hobby seems to be healthy.
As for the Mule, did you all notice it sold for more than all the Ring Brothers cars?!

Afterburner sold for more than the Mule.

[RussMurco]

Afterburner sold for more than the Mule.

I didn't even see that one go across, must have been during one the million chit-chat moments or April Rose segments...

[Jack Maurer]

It was very drivable but if I were to do another car it would be another LS with the Eaton style supercharger like Jackass or Mayhem. Less weight and more useable power. The Mule had I think 9-1 compression. Unless you have your foot in it making boost you are driving a 9-1 compression car. It is really easy to drive but you don't have the part throttle zippiness like you do with the supercharged engine. I debated replacing the TT engine with a LS9 but didn't have the heart to do it and I really only need one car like this to drive. After a couple days of reflection I feel pretty good about the sales price considering it is a 11 year old car. The Mule didn't have the latest greatest interior, billet pieces etc but it also didn't have the latest trend pieces back when it was built. If it would have been built with the trendy pieces that were popular back then I don't think it would have brought the money. I think those Fikse wheels are still my favorite wheels.

Congrats on the sale Charlie. The Mule was a great inspiration to build Darkside and I agree with you, the Fikse wheels fit the look of the 69 Camaro very well; bit of a retro look, but with the refinement of a billet wheel.

[69c4x11]

Didn't Pratt or the guy that bought Johnson's Cuda pay like $4-5m for it 4-5 years ago when Carrol sold it at BJ?
Check your figures,, We are talking about bob Johnsons G-Force Cuda ? My memory is failing but I think it was closer to 500k,, Any one remember ?

[clill]

That was the Super snake twin Paxton supercharged Cobra.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Check your figures,, We are talking about bob Johnsons G-Force Cuda ? My memory is failing but I think it was closer to 500k,, Any one remember ?

Regarding the G-force Cuda, that sold for $550K.

[Musclerodz]

That was the Super snake twin Paxton supercharged Cobra.

your correct charley, forgot that

[Bowtieracing]

It was very drivable but if I were to do another car it would be another LS with the Eaton style supercharger like Jackass or Mayhem. Less weight and more useable power. The Mule had I think 9-1 compression. Unless you have your foot in it making boost you are driving a 9-1 compression car. It is really easy to drive but you don't have the part throttle zippiness like you do with the supercharged engine. I debated replacing the TT engine with a LS9 but didn't have the heart to do it and I really only need one car like this to drive. After a couple days of reflection I feel pretty good about the sales price considering it is a 11 year old car. The Mule didn't have the latest greatest interior, billet pieces etc but it also didn't have the latest trend pieces back when it was built. If it would have been built with the trendy pieces that were popular back then I don't think it would have brought the money. I think those Fikse wheels are still my favorite wheels.

Thank you Charlie for your reply, i appreciate it. Again great car and congratulations for the sale.

[GregWeld]

Didn't Pratt or the guy that bought Johnson's Cuda pay like $4-5m for it 4-5 years ago when Carrol sold it at BJ?




$588,000 was the exact number....


It's now owned by Doug Cooper.

[preston]

Still disappointed the G-Force Cuda kind of disappeared. When it was being built the stories were all full of "we're gonna run it" and as far as I know it only participated in one 0-200-0 contest.

There was a few issues with that car (ever check out the floor near the gas pedal ?) and it must have been ungodly loud for any cruising, but I still have the centerfold spread on my shop wall. Such an awesome design with a lot of new and innovative touches especially at the time. That car probably moved me as much as anything I'd seen before or since. Usually when a car is chopped and stretched that much, especially an icon, the end result is not as envisioned, but that is one car that actually looked better than its rendering.

[bret]

Still disappointed the G-Force Cuda kind of disappeared. When it was being built the stories were all full of "we're gonna run it" and as far as I know it only participated in one 0-200-0 contest.

There was a few issues with that car (ever check out the floor near the gas pedal ?) and it must have been ungodly loud for any cruising, but I still have the centerfold spread on my shop wall. Such an awesome design with a lot of new and innovative touches especially at the time. That car probably moved me as much as anything I'd seen before or since. Usually when a car is chopped and stretched that much, especially an icon, the end result is not as envisioned, but that is one car that actually looked better than its rendering.

It may have disappeared from the national / forum scene but It is still cruised regularly on Long Island.

[69c4x11]

Neil Lea .at Rods&Restos actually designed the suspension layout for the C5 control arms... Alan did a hell of a build ! Seeing the car during build was impressive, shame it never attained the goals Bob set for the car,,,

[formula88]

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p603/67CamaroLS7/Mule/DSC_9422.jpg (http://s1158.photobucket.com/user/67CamaroLS7/media/Mule/DSC_9422.jpg.html)

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p603/67CamaroLS7/Mule/DSC_9450.jpg (http://s1158.photobucket.com/user/67CamaroLS7/media/Mule/DSC_9450.jpg.html)

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p603/67CamaroLS7/Mule/DSC_9461.jpg (http://s1158.photobucket.com/user/67CamaroLS7/media/Mule/DSC_9461.jpg.html)

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p603/67CamaroLS7/Mule/DSC_9463.jpg (http://s1158.photobucket.com/user/67CamaroLS7/media/Mule/DSC_9463.jpg.html)

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p603/67CamaroLS7/Mule/DSC_9472.jpg (http://s1158.photobucket.com/user/67CamaroLS7/media/Mule/DSC_9472.jpg.html)


http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p603/67CamaroLS7/Mule/DSC_9483.jpg (http://s1158.photobucket.com/user/67CamaroLS7/media/Mule/DSC_9483.jpg.html)

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p603/67CamaroLS7/Mule/DSC_9488.jpg (http://s1158.photobucket.com/user/67CamaroLS7/media/Mule/DSC_9488.jpg.html)

[Ketzer]

I'm guessing Charley would never even hint at what he paid for the Mule originally...... :EmoteClueless:



Jeff-

[GregWeld]

I'm guessing Charley would never even hint at what he paid for the Mule originally...... :EmoteClueless:



Jeff-



You're absolutely right.

[Jr]

Neil Lea .at Rods&Restos actually designed the suspension layout for the C5 control arms... Alan did a hell of a build ! Seeing the car during build was impressive, shame it never attained the goals Bob set for the car,,,

Doug modified the cuda?

I would love to see pics. Sema 2003, maybe 2004, was a huge highlight for me! I looked at that Cuda for hours. Beautiful craftsmanship!

[GregWeld]

Doug modified the cuda?

I would love to see pics. Sema 2003, maybe 2004, was a huge highlight for me! I looked at that Cuda for hours. Beautiful craftsmanship!



Too bad I didn't see this post before this morning -- I sat last night with Bob Johnson and Johnson's (different Johnson) Hot Rod shop... I would have asked them for you.

[wiedemab]

I love that they display the monthly payment. - - - I'm guessing the new buyer will not be going with the finance plan! :)

[69c4x11]

Too bad I didn't see this post before this morning -- I sat last night with Bob Johnson and Johnson's (different Johnson) Hot Rod shop... I would have asked them for you.

Greg .. were You in Gadsden Al.?? Or in Ga at Bobs ??

[Jr]

Too bad I didn't see this post before this morning -- I sat last night with Bob Johnson and Johnson's (different Johnson) Hot Rod shop... I would have asked them for you.

No problem. Hopefully Doug will log on and update us on any changes.

[Ketzer]

Greg .. were You in Gadsden Al.?? Or in Ga at Bobs ??

I believe he is at the GNRS with all the other cool kids....


Jeff-

[tones2SS]

I love that they display the monthly payment. - - - I'm guessing the new buyer will not be going with the finance plan! :)

HA HA!!
That is pretty cool that they show you how much moolah you will be dishing out monthly. :G-Dub:

[MarkM66]

Doug modified the cuda?

I would love to see pics. Sema 2003, maybe 2004, was a huge highlight for me! I looked at that Cuda for hours. Beautiful craftsmanship!

Maybe I missed it, but who said he modified anything? I read it that someone else set up the front suspension from the beginning of the build.

[lilcraigford]

The Mule made a cameo appearance and got a mention in some Speedhunters coverage: http://www.speedhunters.com/2014/01/worlds-greatest-collector-car-auction/

http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Barrett_Jackson_Justin_Muir-5-800x533.jpg