Any dimple dies with a small pilot?

[INTMD8]

I would like to get a set of dies that I can use to make a recessed area, approximately 2in diameter for the purpose of having an area for a fastener.

Of course regular dimple dies have a rather large pilot. Anything out there with a small/no pilot for this purpose? Just don't know what term to be searching for.

Thanks!

[dontlifttoshift]

Looking to stamp a shallow cup, like for a body mount hole?

How deep do you want to go?

[INTMD8]

I want to make something to look like this air cleaner lid. Need to recess/cup the metal for the star nuts.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/staging/carlist/items/Fullsize/Cars/102140/102140_Engine_Web.jpg

[ccracin]

Do it the old school way if you only need to do a few. Make a hammer form. You would only need to form the cup from a hard wood or mdf and then hammer the metal into it. Search the process on Youtube. It should give you some ideas. Goodluck!

[GregWeld]

If I already owned dimple dies -- I'd use them to form the recess -- then I'd painstakingly TIG weld the cut piece back into the hole and drill a new small hole if that's what I wanted.

Chad's way of forming a buck may be just as fast if you don't have the dimple die size you want already.

You could also make a female - and male - and use a press...

[INTMD8]

Once I get into it I'll decide which route I'm going to go. Might be thick enough to where I need to just cut/weld/grind.

Thanks for the ideas!

[SuperB70]

You can make them by using two different size dimples and sheet of rubber.

Use bigger dimple die at bottom and a sheet of rubber above that, then sheetmetal and smaller dimple at the top. To get best result you could strech the sheet first with english wheel just that small area where are you gonna press.

I just tryed myself, used 1 1/4" bottom, 3/8 rubber ,20 gauge steel and 1" at the top. Its working pretty well even with out streching. Got a 1/4" deep but that would it even easier if I had wheel'd first.

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/CeeCeeOy/Work%20stuff/B72181A6-B9C8-4D48-AECA-B5A390FC88C4_zps4asvfhmo.jpg (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/CeeCeeOy/media/Work%20stuff/B72181A6-B9C8-4D48-AECA-B5A390FC88C4_zps4asvfhmo.jpg.html)

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/CeeCeeOy/Work%20stuff/A8157B68-5D01-4C27-BB0F-BA5D132BAA9E_zps28xfyxyr.jpg (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/CeeCeeOy/media/Work%20stuff/A8157B68-5D01-4C27-BB0F-BA5D132BAA9E_zps28xfyxyr.jpg.html)

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/CeeCeeOy/Work%20stuff/705AF863-BB82-4D8E-8267-03B84D5A3D41_zps3ruileay.jpg (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/CeeCeeOy/media/Work%20stuff/705AF863-BB82-4D8E-8267-03B84D5A3D41_zps3ruileay.jpg.html)

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/CeeCeeOy/Work%20stuff/9D733F71-6D82-42C4-9B45-E6D0A4F91C60_zpszwzum9mc.jpg (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/CeeCeeOy/media/Work%20stuff/9D733F71-6D82-42C4-9B45-E6D0A4F91C60_zpszwzum9mc.jpg.html)

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/CeeCeeOy/Work%20stuff/93D8793F-4AEB-482D-8D0A-C4CFBE89E1FF_zps833jmswg.jpg (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/CeeCeeOy/media/Work%20stuff/93D8793F-4AEB-482D-8D0A-C4CFBE89E1FF_zps833jmswg.jpg.html)

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/CeeCeeOy/Work%20stuff/B5E376FE-189A-4607-AB95-2B13BBB12D39_zpsx9oqbwfk.jpg (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/CeeCeeOy/media/Work%20stuff/B5E376FE-189A-4607-AB95-2B13BBB12D39_zpsx9oqbwfk.jpg.html)

[INTMD8]

Good call! That is bad ass. Thanks for trying it out and posting up the pics :thumbsup:

[SuperB70]

Thanks, I've my moments ;)

my opinion is that you get the best result by using separate round piece and wheeling, then press it and weld them together.
I have made many 3" ball from 20 gauge and there I noticed that starting point have to be round piece. That way the streching is even so the deformation would be less. Try your self and post results. The ball is made from two pieces, tig'ed together.

Check the balls over the stacks, as an custom fabrication company cant just use tennisballs.

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/CeeCeeOy/AED19B69-DC95-414A-8B13-1FF78C1A89E9-9725-00000E72D5D4AB3A_zpsefd76305.jpg

I got that car finished about a month ago. 750hp 615 + PG got a II price at our autum international yankeecar show. Off topic, sorry..