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fleetus macmullitz
11-01-2013, 11:26 PM
Found this while looking for pics of an uncle who was a bomber pilot during World War II.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Uncle%20John%20Simon/3205634805_17300b52d4_zps35fe90c6.jpg (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/wnyjazz/media/Uncle%20John%20Simon/3205634805_17300b52d4_zps35fe90c6.jpg.html)
Using Photobucket's image enhancement tool.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Uncle%20John%20Simon/756710a4-9394-4d9a-9599-5e4591af4c14_zps06af9d24.jpg (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/wnyjazz/media/Uncle%20John%20Simon/756710a4-9394-4d9a-9599-5e4591af4c14_zps06af9d24.jpg.html)
Used both the image enhancement and resizing tools...not sure if it helps or hurts the image below.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Uncle%20John%20Simon/d8286685-aea2-4121-9a53-f8233881c737_zpsa59e8c6e.jpg (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/wnyjazz/media/Uncle%20John%20Simon/d8286685-aea2-4121-9a53-f8233881c737_zpsa59e8c6e.jpg.html)
Spiffav8
11-02-2013, 09:48 AM
Awesome pic. The Avro Lancaster. Great airplane!
:thankyou: that's being added to the screen saver.
fleetus macmullitz
11-02-2013, 10:13 AM
Curtis,
Because I have a bias towards World War II bombers, I wasn't sure how cool a pic it actually is.
Glad you like it. :thumbsup:
Spiffav8
11-02-2013, 10:47 AM
Curtis,
Because I have a bias towards World War II bombers, I wasn't sure how cool a pic it actually is.
Glad you like it. :thumbsup:
Yeah it gets 10/10 in my book.
65 347
11-02-2013, 03:01 PM
Very cool pic,
I think every hot rodder has a soft spot in their heart for a bomber.
Mike
Shmoov69
11-02-2013, 05:42 PM
That's awesome!!
Thanks for sharing!!
Musclerodz
11-02-2013, 07:25 PM
That's not the pic I have of a bombers moon.....:unibrow:
Spiffav8
11-02-2013, 08:16 PM
That's not the pic I have of a bombers moon.....:unibrow:
Please don't post that. LMAO
Musclerodz
11-02-2013, 08:52 PM
Please don't post that. LMAO
I thought about it, butt I decided not too.....:rofl:
Stuart Adams
11-03-2013, 05:32 AM
Cool pictures. My dad was an air traffic controller in the air force for 25 years. It was cool to see all the planes over the years.
Spiffav8
11-03-2013, 11:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVAEbMcQ-t8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVAEbMcQ-t8
Just for fun. :D
Musclerodz
11-03-2013, 12:41 PM
OVAEbMcQ-t8
Fixed it for you curtis
Spiffav8
11-03-2013, 06:40 PM
Fixed it for you curtis
Thanks man. You'd think I'd know how to do that. :_paranoid
Ron in SoCal
11-03-2013, 08:23 PM
^ Got 14 minutes for a historical account of the real deal?
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fleetus macmullitz
11-03-2013, 08:50 PM
^ Got 14 minutes for a historical account of the real deal?
14 minutes?
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/aint-nobody-got-time-for-that.gif
:thankyou: But I'll wait for the Cliffs Notes...Ron in SoCal.
:hello:
Spiffav8
11-03-2013, 08:52 PM
^ Got 14 minutes for a historical account of the real deal?
Ron, I've watched that a few times and the look on that guys face when he realizes what he's watching is awesome. Great story!!
:flag2:
Ron in SoCal
11-03-2013, 10:46 PM
:thankyou: But I'll wait for the Cliffs Notes...Ron in SoCal.
:hello:
:hello: Skippah! Here's some cliff notes for you :headspin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spitfire_944
Ron, I've watched that a few times and the look on that guys face when he realizes what he's watching is awesome. Great story!!
:flag2:
See you Wed Bro!
Spiffav8
11-03-2013, 11:37 PM
See you Wed Bro!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
fleetus macmullitz
11-04-2013, 03:18 AM
Long story semi short, my mothers' brother was based in the UK as well and could have come home, but he elected to stay in the US Army Air Corp.
So while flying extra missions his bomber was shot down over Germany in July 1944.
His body never made it back home. A military gravestone wasn't placed in a local cemetery until 2001. That memorial service was powerful and is still very fresh in my mind as people traveled from afar to be there including my uncle's former fiancee who kept in touch with our family all these years. :)
My youngest son bears his hero great-uncle's first and last name as his first and middle names. He played taps along with another of my sons at the memorial service.:thumbsup:
We the nephews spoke for our parents during the eulogy. None of us could make it through without great difficulty. As my mom says, her brother was the glue that held her family together, but then he was gone...
So for me it's easier to look at a few pics of WW II planes in the air than to relive more of it seeing and hearing from the survivors. I am very happy for them of course and for their families who received them back, but for me it hits too close to home. :)
glassman
11-04-2013, 07:11 AM
And then his memory becomes a stronger bond.
I thank the good Lord i was born into this great country everyday and stories like this NEVER get old for me.
I have three kids in college right now, while i've never served, i've made it a point to make sure my three have a deep understanding of what freedom is and what it cost.
I love that quote "all gave some and some gave all" :flag2:
fleetus macmullitz
11-05-2013, 08:16 AM
And then his memory becomes a stronger bond.
I thank the good Lord i was born into this great country everyday and stories like this NEVER get old for me.
I have three kids in college right now, while i've never served, i've made it a point to make sure my three have a deep understanding of what freedom is and what it cost.
I love that quote "all gave some and some gave all" :flag2:
X2. :thumbsup:
Very well said Mike, and I like how you have made sure your children know about how many have made the ultimate sacrifice for this country aka 'other people'.
NorCal72
11-05-2013, 09:14 AM
Long story semi short, my mothers' brother was based in the UK as well and could have come home, but he elected to stay in the US Army Air Corp.
So while flying extra missions his bomber was shot down over Germany in July 1944.
His body never made it back home. A military gravestone wasn't placed in a local cemetery until 2001. That memorial service was powerful and is still very fresh in my mind as people traveled from afar to be there including my uncle's former fiancee who kept in touch with our family all these years. :)
My youngest son bears his hero great-uncle's first and last name as his first and middle names. He played taps along with another of my sons at the memorial service.:thumbsup:
We the nephews spoke for our parents during the eulogy. None of us could make it through without great difficulty. As my mom says, her brother was the glue that held her family together, but then he was gone...
So for me it's easier to look at a few pics of WW II planes in the air than to relive more of it seeing and hearing from the survivors. I am very happy for them of course and for their families who received them back, but for me it hits too close to home. :)
That is a amazing story, thank you for sharing.
Combat pilots have brass balls period. That war produced greatest generation of warfighters and Americans this country has ever seen.
fleetus macmullitz
11-08-2013, 12:40 AM
I just saw this...John Simon is my Uncle.
http://www.492ndbombgroup.com/photos/crew-photos/R-03-Simon-00.jpg
Back row, left to right... John Simon, pilot John Dzanaj, co-pilot Colin Barkell, navigator Thomas Rice, bombardier Front row, left to right... John Whitmore, engineer Elmer Colt, radio operator Garnett Saint, nose gunner Norman Wintermeyer, armorer Charles Tyson, tail gunner Joe Corley, waist gunner
Simon Crew R-03 Summary While training in Colorado, one of the original crewmen on this crew, Bob Lambert, was killed in a plane crash. We learned this information as it was written on the back of the crew photo owned by the Elmer Colt family. We don't know what Bob's position was, his rank, nor who replaced him. The Simon replacement crew arrived at North Pickenham in May. After some in-house training they were assigned to the 857th BS on 25 May 44 to fill the squadron's vacancy as Crew 716. At this time we're not sure which crew, if any, they replaced since there wasn't any original crew designated as Crew 716. By our count, Lt Simon took his crew through 19 missions plus an aborted one with the 492nd. We don't know if any substitutions were made on any of the missions... which was common during the war as sometimes the men would get sick or wounded. We are led to believe that shortly after arriving to North Pickenham, Lt Rice was reassigned to the Testa Crew 704, a lead crew, to serve as their Pilotage Navigator. Furthermore we believe the crew didn't have a regular bombardier as most of their missions were of carpet bombing types and on such missions when they did need one, one was furnished to them from the bombardier's pool. When the Group was disbanded on 10 Aug 44, Lt Drilling, originally with the Foster Crew R-20, transferred with this crew to the 446th BG as their bombardier. This crew survived some of the toughest air battles fought by the 492nd. But their luck didn't hold out with the 446th. On 25 Aug 44, they were shot down. 4 KIA, 6 POW, MACR 8473.
fleetus macmullitz
11-08-2013, 12:46 AM
http://www.492ndbombgroup.com/gfx/pageone/HardLuckGroup-eee8cc.png
1944 World War II the Air War over Europe After 89 days of combat service the 492nd Bomb Group was disbanded ...or more like wiped out.
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http://www.492ndbombgroup.com/gfx/pageone/492photoCollage.png
This website is dedicated to being a free online museum and memorial to the men who served with the ill-fated 492nd Bomb Group during its 89 days at North Pickenham. We collect stories of the men, their planes and their missions and present it all here. Our goal is to provide a place for each man so that his family can come visit and remember their own personal hero.
http://www.492ndbombgroup.com/cgi-bin/pagepilot.cgi?page=492home
fleetus macmullitz
11-08-2013, 12:55 AM
It's an amazing website these patriots have put together...I am grateful.:)
Bomb Group Aircraft http://www.492ndbombgroup.com/gfx/spacer.gif http://www.492ndbombgroup.com/gfx/onetimers/492liberator.png There were 73 original and 45 replacement aircraft in the 492nd. Those are the ones that we consider to be "492nd Bomb Group Aircraft." http://www.492ndbombgroup.com/gfx/spacer.gif Other aircraft did come through North Pickenham Airfield, but were transferred away before seeing any action with the 492nd. http://www.492ndbombgroup.com/gfx/spacer.gif All the aircraft in the 492nd were B-24 Liberators, all models either B-24H or B-24J. The B-24 has been overshadowed by the B-17, which has consistently been touted by media and authors as the only bomber that did anything in WWII. http://www.492ndbombgroup.com/gfx/spacer.gif US Bomber Production in WWII http://www.492ndbombgroup.com/gfx/spacer.gif B-24 (H) Liberator 18,256 http://www.492ndbombgroup.com/gfx/spacer.gif B-17 (H) Flying Fortress 12,692 B-25 (M) Mitchell 9,816 A-20 (L) Havoc 7,385 B-26 (M) Marauder 5,157 B-29 (VH) Superfortress 3,970 A-26 (L) Invader 2,449 * *Part of 9,831 Douglas bombers of similar design built The production ratio of B-17s to B-24s was 17:24 a very interesting coincidence. The percentage of B-17s lost was comparable to the number of B-24s lost. The chances of survival were the same regardless of the aircraft flown. All USAAF aircraft produced in WWII helped win the war. Source: Al Blue
fleetus macmullitz
11-08-2013, 04:05 AM
That is a amazing story, thank you for sharing.
Combat pilots have brass balls period. That war produced greatest generation of warfighters and Americans this country has ever seen.
I appreciate that NorCal. :thumbsup:
Fitter48044
11-08-2013, 03:53 PM
Very cool, Thanks for sharing!
fleetus macmullitz
11-10-2013, 11:45 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vZyHxmcMvtg/TGlXYI0hEhI/AAAAAAAABl4/8uyoptBIOWU/s1600/B-24_Billboard_Large.jpg
Spiffav8
11-11-2013, 02:35 PM
The B-24 is an awesome airplane. Very fast for it's day and age. Thanks for sharing all of that info. Never get's old reading about that era of aviation.
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