Complete Hotchkis Frames

[paulk68]

http://www.hotchkis.net/complete_sub_frame_6769_camarofirebird_6874_nova.h tml

This looks pretty good. I like the idea of having a brand new stock subframe already powdercoated and ready to roll and not dealing with my 40 year frame I just wish it was a bit cheaper LOL. what do you guys think?

[Rick D]

Here's just the frame. I've heard they are not that great?? I have not tried one myself so just what I've heard but not to good on the suspension pickup point?? I know the one from Hotchkis says it's made by AMD so I'm not 100% sure they are the same so check to make sure.

http://www.classicdiscountparts.com/products.php?product=1969-Camaro%7B47%7DFirebird-1969%252d72-Nova-Subframe

[3_z28camaro]

It seems a bit expensive for being an upgraded stock subframe. For $1,000.00 more, give or take some depending on options, a DSE or AME subframe could be had.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

You'd be light years ahead with a Mock frame.

[Dipped]

I'd steer clear of this offering as it's simply not on par with what you'd gain from utilizing a bolt in frame from one of the many offered from venders on this forum. Ever since I had a Hotchkis Leaf spring snap in half Ive lost all faith in anything Hotchkis.

[DTM Racing]

I'd steer clear of this offering as it's simply not on par with what you'd gain from utilizing a bolt in frame from one of the many offered from venders on this forum. Ever since I had a Hotchkis Leaf spring snap in half Ive lost all faith in anything Hotchkis.

Wow, complete material failure? Did they warranty the spring?

[Dipped]

Wow, complete material failure? Did they warranty the spring?

Yes they sent out a replacement. Hotchkis procures their springs from some place called "Best" in southern California. Hotchkis first claimed the weight of my two 10inch JL audio subs in the back of the car caused the spring failure. Once that hogwash was mythbusted, they finally admitted the spring wasn't tempered correctly. It snapped as I was going 35mph uphill in route to my gym. I now have a g-ling and can actually drive my car with confidence. I'll never buy another part from Hotchkis and will forever recommend against their line. :disgusted:

[Blake Foster]

For the same price you could have a Speedtech frame.
I have herd the AMD isn't even doing the frames anymore as the quality was not up to par????? just what I herd cant be confirmed.

[BMR Sales]

Yes they sent out a replacement. Hotchkis procures their springs from some place called "Best" in southern California. Hotchkis first claimed the weight of my two 10inch JL audio subs in the back of the car caused the spring failure. Once that hogwash was mythbusted, they finally admitted the spring wasn't tempered correctly. It snapped as I was going 35mph uphill in route to my gym. I now have a g-ling and can actually drive my car with confidence. I'll never buy another part from Hotchkis and will forever recommend against their line. :disgusted:

It's Betts Spring Co. They make Great Coil Springs, don't know anything about their Leafs. Did Hotchkis or Bess have the Broken Spring in their Hands to say it wasn't Tempered or was it a Guess? The fact that they Sent out a Replacement doesn't warrant a Bash IMHO - I'm not sure what you would have had them do. I Mean S#!] happens sometimes and they took care of you

[DTM Racing]

Yes they sent out a replacement. Hotchkis procures their springs from some place called "Best" in southern California. Hotchkis first claimed the weight of my two 10inch JL audio subs in the back of the car caused the spring failure. Once that hogwash was mythbusted, they finally admitted the spring wasn't tempered correctly. It snapped as I was going 35mph uphill in route to my gym. I now have a g-ling and can actually drive my car with confidence. I'll never buy another part from Hotchkis and will forever recommend against their line. :disgusted:

Material failure is something that cannot be helped. In mass production something can always slip through the cracks. It happens. Glad to hear they replaced your defective item.

[Solid LT1]

Betts Spring is used by many " old school " Corvette racers around my parts....I use Guldstrand or Eaton Detroit for my builds....The guys at Eaton are great! One thing I like about Guldstrand parts, you can can see where they hit the spring with a Brinnel testing rig to insure a quality product is delivered to the end user.

[Dipped]

It's Betts Spring Co. They make Great Coil Springs, don't know anything about their Leafs. Did Hotchkis or Bess have the Broken Spring in their Hands to say it wasn't Tempered or was it a Guess? The fact that they Sent out a Replacement doesn't warrant a Bash IMHO - I'm not sure what you would have had them do. I Mean S#!] happens sometimes and they took care of you

Trucks tow boats and trailers with leaf springs. IMO there is no excuse for one to snap under the weight of a 2900lb car especially under normal driving conditions. The fact that they had the nerve to suggest it was due to the weight of a 80lb stereo enclosure is disgusting. The replacement spring doesn't come packaged with a quarter panel sheet metal repair kit. So no, since I footed the bill for bod, paint, install, towing and such I'm holding onto the spring so I can set up a small booth at the next goodguys show with the results my steel engineer compiled. But on the bright side I've since procured a full Chassisworks frame and suspension so I'm now riding faulty free.

[Chassisworks]

http://www.hotchkis.net/complete_sub_frame_6769_camarofirebird_6874_nova.h tml

This looks pretty good. I like the idea of having a brand new stock subframe already powdercoated and ready to roll and not dealing with my 40 year frame I just wish it was a bit cheaper LOL. what do you guys think?

Or you could get a complete Chassisworks front clip with power rack and pinion, billet motor mounts, Wilwood brakes, and adjustable shocks for about $400 more. Sure, you'd have to bolt everything on the frame, but that means the shipping cost is lower because the box isn't as big. Why stick with old school architecture when you can bring everything up to date for a few bucks more? Bigger, stronger spindles, no bump steer right out of the box, more adjustability.

Check out our Buyers Guide for the Camaro/Firebird systems by clicking the image below. Give me a call if you have any questions; I love talking front clips!

https://www.cachassisworks.com/site_images/catalog_covers/BG_201_277x360.jpg (https://www.cachassisworks.com/Attachments/Catalogs/BG_201.pdf)

[Dipped]

Or you could get a complete Chassisworks front clip with power rack and pinion, billet motor mounts, Wilwood brakes, and adjustable shocks for about $400 more. Sure, you'd have to bolt everything on the frame, but that means the shipping cost is lower because the box isn't as big. Why stick with old school architecture when you can bring everything up to date for a few bucks more? Bigger, stronger spindles, no bump steer right out of the box, more adjustability.

Check out our Buyers Guide for the Camaro/Firebird systems by clicking the image below. Give me a call if you have any questions; I love talking front clips!

https://www.cachassisworks.com/site_images/catalog_covers/BG_201_277x360.jpg (https://www.cachassisworks.com/Attachments/Catalogs/BG_201.pdf)

I have about 4,000 miles on the front and rear Chassisworks packages I installed. Hands down the best purchase I've made for this car over the past 11 years. :trophy-1302: