Greg Weld on the track today

[camcojb]

in his new car. Charley sent me the pics, can't wait to hear what Greg thinks of it.

[DFRESH]

Triple 8------now that's cool.

[Rick D]

That just looks like way to much fun one man should be having!!! Nice Greg!!:trophy-1302:

[Steve Chryssos]

Those 2 Elevens are kick ass. Congrats!

[tubbed69]

now that looks like alot of fun Greg,nice car

[James OLC]

Awesome on so many levels...

Wonder if I could borrow it for 8 days?

:peepwall:


Why is it the Mary said no before I even finished typing this? :bitchslap:

Congrats Greg!

[FETorino]

Hmm

That looks pretty cool:D but what about this? :headscratch: Is it running today?:underchair:

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:cheers:

[Stuart Adams]

Sweet

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Sooooooo any impressions on it? More pictures guys.

[GregWeld]

HAHAHAHAHAHA imagine my surprise to see this post.... Charley is nothing but a big trouble maker!


I alternated between running the '65 Mustang (590hp and 3015 #'s) and the Lotus (252hp and 1477 #'s).... TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CARS -- no DOH! there right??


The Lotus is absolutely on marbles or grease - or both for the first lap or two. It has Yokohama Advan tires -- they're super slick until I can get some heat in them.... and then with each lap the car can turn in more and more... and it's like driving a 6 speed shifter cart. Super sweet -- super forgiving -- you know exactly what the car is doing... wicked fast... as in OH WOW! Brakes are better than excellent... speed control is just amazingly accurate. This is a car a guy could get himself in some serious trouble in -- the speeds are just HIGH...

The Mustang is everything the Lotus IS NOT.... it's not sophisticated -- it's loud and harsh and rough -- and you can manhandle it thru a corner.... Gobs of torque... and it just grunts it's way around the track kinda like a pissed off bull.

The Mustang is more fun to drive. It's more "me".... I like it. I can make it do what I need it to do. The Hoosier R6's are sticky after 1 lap and then they don't change. I like that.

The Lotus is refined precision.... a screaming howler --- 1.8ltrs of bumblebee -- but you don't hear the motor all that much because the wind is trying to tear your helmet off.... holy crap - the end of the big straight comes up fast and the helmet is coming up even faster! A touch up of the brakes -- downshift into 5th and roll it on throttle around turn 1... awesome --- but scary too! You're carrying A LOT of speed... which makes the Mustang seem like slow-motion.

That's all for now --- I'm pooped!

[GregWeld]

I'll let JerrDawgy tell his own story --- but what I can say is that I just happened to be rolling south from Seattle to NorCal --- and this "race truck" happened to be between where I was coming from and heading to... and somebody bought it... and it got a ride down to Thunderhill and a guy I know (the proud new owner) came up from LA and took it home. Stay tuned as I'm sure this won't be the last you'll read/see of this cute little truck (which sounds every bit as bad ass as my Mustang!).






Hmm

That looks pretty cool:D but what about this? :headscratch: Is it running today?:underchair:

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:cheers:

[Sieg]

Hmmmm...........you had more fun than I did today!

Good stuff GW, not surprised with the 2-11. Wait till you get used to it. What were the track temps like?

[GregWeld]

Hmmmm...........you had more fun than I did today!

Good stuff GW, not surprised with the 2-11. Wait till you get used to it. What were the track temps like?



Now you're sounding like Gaetano!!


I have no idea what the track temps where -- I have no idea how many clicks on my shocks... I have even less idea where my anti-roll bars are set... or how much toe-in I have or don't have. I own lots of tools and bring many down with me - but only to loan to others that may have a need. I come down for the FUN... If it breaks it goes on the trailer and I ride the passenger side with anyone that will let me.


I just set tire pressures.... put on my driver stuff... strap in -- and go out and have a blast. I pass some people -- and since I've moved up to Green group - some people pass me... then they wave a checkered flag and I get off track and go sit on my fat little ass until they call Green group again. :>)

[Sieg]

Ambient high was 76* low was 48*..........kinda chilly for T-Hill. Certainly didn't help the slicks get up to temp. Maybe Hoosier R6's since it's somewhat obvious you're not inclined to run tire warmers. :D

[GregWeld]

Ambient high was 76* low was 48*..........kinda chilly for T-Hill. Certainly didn't help the slicks get up to temp. Maybe Hoosier A6's since it's somewhat obvious you're not inclined to run tire warmers. :D

I actually talked to one of the OTEC guys here today and asked about A6's -- his thought was that they might start off better but that after 20 minutes they might be greasy...

I'll order some R6's. And a spare set of wheels like I have for the Mustang... Ah the beauty of having some space...

I was laughing when I typed my response.... because Gaetano showed up today -- and immediately asked about the handling of the Mustang. I replied that it was a little crossed up in 12 and 13... but I ho-hum that stuff... He wanted to change tire pressure by a half a pound - and check my shock settings. I was like -- NO..... Why not he asked... Well, because.... it wouldn't make any difference in my driving... and I'm not racing so there's no prize... no check... oh -- and if it was a little squirrelly in a corner -- it would be because I entered too hot --- or I hit the brakes too hard or too late - or maybe I just didn't quite hit the apex.... In other words --- it's not the shocks or the tires - or the temps -- it's ME.... and changing the car doesn't change ME.

More importantly --- none of that "knowledge" would increase my pleasure... None of that is important to me. I'm not crawling under the car... I'm not working on it... I'm not changing anything. I'm just down here having a great time -- hangin' with my buddies -- driving our asses off... laughing at our foibles and telling lies about how fast we took some corner... or about how sideways we were.

Some guys are all about shock adjustments - tire temps - coil settings - and toe in etc. And they get a ton of pleasure out of knowing about that and seeing what each does. Me? Not so much. I'm focused on having a great weekend -- not hurting my pride too much -- laughing with my buddies... going out to some ptomaine parlor for dinner.

I like simple. When I'm on track the only thing I have to think about is hitting the apex -- and trying my best to catch the guy in front of me. If I can do some of that some of the time - then I've had a good day.

The grease will get changed when I get back home to the shed. :lol:

[GregWeld]

Triple 8------now that's cool.



The Mustang is assigned a permanent number by Nor Cal Shelby club -- it's number 88.... Charley was kind enough to give up the number which was on the car when I bought it from him.... I asked the club for 088 for the Lotus... and the guy who handles that is "asian".... and he responded to my email that I should have 888 --- since "8" is a good luck number in asian cultures... so 888 it is!!

I think I'll have to raise my game and get some actual decals --- or as our buddy Blake (SpeedTech) calls them DEKKELS for it.

[James OLC]

Now you're sounding like Gaetano!!


I have no idea what the track temps where -- I have no idea how many clicks on my shocks... I have even less idea where my anti-roll bars are set... or how much toe-in I have or don't have. I own lots of tools and bring many down with me - but only to loan to others that may have a need. I come down for the FUN... If it breaks it goes on the trailer and I ride the passenger side with anyone that will let me.


I just set tire pressures.... put on my driver stuff... strap in -- and go out and have a blast. I pass some people -- and since I've moved up to Green group - some people pass me... then they wave a checkered flag and I get off track and go sit on my fat little ass until they call Green group again. :>)

Just awesome on so many levels

[Rod P]

I have no idea what the track temps where -- I have no idea how many clicks on my shocks... I have even less idea where my anti-roll bars are set... or how much toe-in I have or don't have.

:lmao: were suppose to check all that?? I HAD NO IDEA! :confused18: Im with you there

[Vegas69]

Stubborn as a mule. Who would think to fine tune a car to your driving style and skill level. :twak:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I remember hearing someone tell me " if it were easy, everyone would do it".

That sounds like an awesome day at the track to me.

[Sieg]

I actually talked to one of the OTEC guys here today and asked about A6's -- his thought was that they might start off better but that after 20 minutes they might be greasy...

I'll order some R6's. And a spare set of wheels like I have for the Mustang... Ah the beauty of having some space...

I was laughing when I typed my response.... because Gaetano showed up today -- and immediately asked about the handling of the Mustang. I replied that it was a little crossed up in 12 and 13... but I ho-hum that stuff... He wanted to change tire pressure by a half a pound - and check my shock settings. I was like -- NO..... Why not he asked... Well, because.... it wouldn't make any difference in my driving... and I'm not racing so there's no prize... no check... oh -- and if it was a little squirrelly in a corner -- it would be because I entered too hot --- or I hit the brakes too hard or too late - or maybe I just didn't quite hit the apex.... In other words --- it's not the shocks or the tires - or the temps -- it's ME.... and changing the car doesn't change ME.

More importantly --- none of that "knowledge" would increase my pleasure... None of that is important to me. I'm not crawling under the car... I'm not working on it... I'm not changing anything. I'm just down here having a great time -- hangin' with my buddies -- driving our asses off... laughing at our foibles and telling lies about how fast we took some corner... or about how sideways we were.

Some guys are all about shock adjustments - tire temps - coil settings - and toe in etc. And they get a ton of pleasure out of knowing about that and seeing what each does. Me? Not so much. I'm focused on having a great weekend -- not hurting my pride too much -- laughing with my buddies... going out to some ptomaine parlor for dinner.

I like simple. When I'm on track the only thing I have to think about is hitting the apex -- and trying my best to catch the guy in front of me. If I can do some of that some of the time - then I've had a good day.

The grease will get changed when I get back home to the shed. :lol:
Ya quick gunned posted me on editing my A6 to R6 error..............:guns:

On the bikes I wasn't a constant suspension tinkerer or tire experimenter either but I will tweak as much as it takes to where I get the suspension feeling right for me. Tire temps only get check for baseline and adjusted as needed to compensate for extreme ambient temperature variations.

Once I find the sweet spots I leave well enough alone and focus on lines braking and throttle application........

[Flash68]

I bet a certain S10 woulda smoked both your cars.

:whistling:

[intocarss]

It was a fun time and a pleasure to finaly meet Greg, Gae and Charile..Charlie asked if we were gona run the truck? We said maybe ..he says "does it have gas..do the brakes work"? ..I say "yeah" he says RUN IT THEN!!! LOL I like him.

If you've never seen these Mutstangs in person, they are very very nice! The Lotus is cool too.

[intocarss]

Once again a Big Thank you to Greg for bringing my new toy "SPUDS" down for me :thumbsup: GAE looks like Erine Irvan

[fleet]

Nice that some 'lat-g legends' finally got to meet up and exchange Mancards. :unibrow:

Looks like some serious fun.


:hello:

[protour73]

I have no idea what the track temps where -- I have no idea how many clicks on my shocks... I have even less idea where my anti-roll bars are set... or how much toe-in I have or don't have. I own lots of tools and bring many down with me - but only to loan to others that may have a need. I come down for the FUN... If it breaks it goes on the trailer and I ride the passenger side with anyone that will let me.


I just set tire pressures.... put on my driver stuff... strap in -- and go out and have a blast. I pass some people -- and since I've moved up to Green group - some people pass me... then they wave a checkered flag and I get off track and go sit on my fat little ass until they call Green group again. :>)

Greg, you have no idea how glad I am to hear those comments.

The last track event I was at (only the 2nd one), someone asked me what I'm doing with my tire pressures.....I said "they were properly inflated to safely get me to the track, I'm good to go."

I didn't have great lap times, I was there to beat the snot out of my car and have a blast with it!! and when it comes down to it, I didn't finish the day with the fastest time OR the slowest time.....in my mind - - I WON!!

I learn more about the limits of my car every time I'm out there, I improve as a driver.....again I WON. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Once again a Big Thank you to Greg for bringing my new toy "SPUDS" down for me



It was my pleasure buddy! Glad I could lend a hand....


Sorry we were busy trying to prep for running.... those first couple sessions have everyone pretty busy - then it settles down and we have more time to BS. I was so distracted I almost forgot to put fuel in the Muttstang!

[GregWeld]

Greg, you have no idea how glad I am to hear those comments.

The last track event I was at (only the 2nd one), someone asked me what I'm doing with my tire pressures.....I said "they were properly inflated to safely get me to the track, I'm good to go."

I didn't have great lap times, I was there to beat the snot out of my car and have a blast with it!! and when it comes down to it, I didn't finish the day with the fastest time OR the slowest time.....in my mind - - I WON!!

I learn more about the limits of my car every time I'm out there, I improve as a driver.....again I WON. :thumbsup:





HAHAHAHAHA -- Scott..... I really was laughing to myself as I was typing that... but it's absolutely true!

To me - this is like hot rodding.... "to each his own". Some guys want to make all manor of adjustments and mess with everything on the car. THEY have fun doing that... I don't. Some guys like to sit in a parking lot all day displaying their car and answering all the questions of every passerby... But that's not my idea of a good day... I want to wake up with the sun - and go drive my hot rod somewhere and listen to the music the exhaust makes...

I can't even tell you what a lap is here... After checking one time to see my times against the faster group - and discovering I was faster (because the faster guys are running in more traffic)... I realized it just didn't matter because there was no pole position to win... and nobody else knew their times and not a single person asked me what I ran. Like you - I want to have some good laps - I like it if I'm faster than the guy in front of me through some sections... and I DO want to pass everyone one the track... but after that -- I settle in and just try to do my best thru every turn.

When I went to bed last night -- I never once thought about the "car"... Other than a note to self -- get Hoosiers for the Lotus!

[GregWeld]

Just awesome on so many levels




James -- You know me... and that's just the way it is. HAHAHAHAHAHA



I have just as much fun "working" a track event as I do driving at one. It's all good.

[Track Junky]

Greg, great seeing you and Charlie again. I love the Muttstang and the Lotus. Oh. And I'll stop bugging you about how you should have been tuning your suspension for better drive ability. :waveflag:

[Streetking]

Very nice Greg. When can I drive it..:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Greg, great seeing you and Charlie again. I love the Muttstang and the Lotus. Oh. And I'll stop bugging you about how you should have been tuning your suspension for better drive ability. :waveflag:




HAHAHAHAHAHA I knew you'd get a kick out of this thread!



So the Muttstang has a broken rocker arm - and possibly more.... and get this -- I just let a 14 year old "kid" (young man is a more appropriate description) drive the Lotus. He'll be 15 next week and said that was the best birthday present "EVER".

His Grandfather built Thunderhill -- his Dad -- Tommy McCarthy - raced NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series.... and the young lad is a National Champion


What a hoot to see the smile on his face! "It's the koolest car I've ever driven..." ---- Dude?!?!?! Who can say that and you haven't even had your 15th birthday yet!?!?!

EEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAA


And oh by the way -- he's running Green group and smokin people in his Mazda Miata! I didn't know he was driving the car -- and followed him for a few laps -- going to school on him!

[GregWeld]

Very nice Greg. When can I drive it..:thumbsup:




I let a 14 year old boy drive it before you!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

[Matt@BOS]

Greg, every time someone makes fun of me for not knowing tire pressures, I'm going to tell them I'm in good company.

Don't get me wrong, I like tinkering and changing springs, sway bars, shock settings, etc. Most of those things are significant changes that make me insignificantly faster. I set tire pressure when cold, knowing it will grow and figure one or two pounds of pressure still doesn't make as big a difference as me cleaning up my driving.

p.s. I'm glad this was titled "Greg Weld ON the track today.

[GregWeld]

Matt -- I re-set the hot tire pressure immediately after coming off track back down to what I went out on cold.... So it I set the Muttstang at 28F and 26R -- and I come in and the front is 34 -- I drop it back down to 28 -- I don't know if that makes much of a difference but that's what I was told to do so that's what I do.

That is the extent of working on the car....


Okay -- I did fix the tailpipe that blew off the Lotus exhaust today. But right after that I swore off any more adjustments! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Greg from Aus]

Looks like you had a total blast Greg.

[Matt@BOS]

Matt -- I re-set the hot tire pressure immediately after coming off track back down to what I went out on cold.... So it I set the Muttstang at 28F and 26R -- and I come in and the front is 34 -- I drop it back down to 28 -- I don't know if that makes much of a difference but that's what I was told to do so that's what I do.

That is the extent of working on the car....


Okay -- I did fix the tailpipe that blew off the Lotus exhaust today. But right after that I swore off any more adjustments! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That is a far more scientific approach than I figured you'd have. Next thing you'll probably tell us that you check tire temps to figure out how much to air them down. :lol:

You are making me feel bad though. I do check wear to see if I'm using as much of my tire as I should, but I can't tell you the last time I actually used a pressure gauge. Everyone (mostly Cris) tells me to take it more seriously if I want to go fast(er).

[Al Moreno]

Hey Greg, I heard if you put a bunch of stickers on the car, it will make you faster. Now there's a fine line as to how many stickers you'll need base on your driving skills as there is a sweet spot. So it will take some testing on your part :whistling:

[Sieg]

GW based on what I've read in this thread I don't know why you have gauges in the Mustang. You should just have two big idiot lights on the dash with dekkels below them stating GO to TRACK and GO to TRAILER. :D

[Blake Foster]

The Mustang is assigned a permanent number by Nor Cal Shelby club -- it's number 88.... Charley was kind enough to give up the number which was on the car when I bought it from him.... I asked the club for 088 for the Lotus... and the guy who handles that is "asian".... and he responded to my email that I should have 888 --- since "8" is a good luck number in asian cultures... so 888 it is!!

I think I'll have to raise my game and get some actual decals --- or as our buddy Blake (SpeedTech) calls them DEKKELS for it.

LMAO
wrong accent Greg but close, you let me know if you need some I can make that happen.

[Blake Foster]

GW based on what I've read in this thread I don't know why you have gauges in the Mustang. You should just have two big idiot lights on the dash with dekkels below them stating GO to TRACK and GO to TRAILER. :D

That is funny right there the go to track one would be Green and the other Red I will suppose

[Sieg]

That is funny right there the go to track one would be Green and the other Red I will suppose
Bingo! :thumbsup:

[Cris@JCG]

That's right Matt.. & this is why lately this rookie (me) driver has been beating you :lmao: ... Barely..

That is a far more scientific approach than I figured you'd have. Next thing you'll probably tell us that you check tire temps to figure out how much to air them down. :lol:

You are making me feel bad though. I do check wear to see if I'm using as much of my tire as I should, but I can't tell you the last time I actually used a pressure gauge. Everyone (mostly Cris) tells me to take it more seriously if I want to go fast(er).

[GregWeld]

So I suck at GoPro --- even though I bought a new Hero 3 Black Edition with the remote control at SEMA last year.... I forget to turn it on --- or the battery is toast when I want to use it... or... <pick one> whatever.


So this was at the end of a session like the last lap and then cool down... and it just shows the Lotus staying behind the 14 year old Tommy McCarthy in the blue Miata. He just seemed so smooth and I just decided that rather than pass him -- I'd just run around with him a bit. It's actually kind of fun to run around at 7/10ths! If you watch the tach you can see that half the time I'm under like 5K -- and usually I'm shifting at 8K or above.... and when I'm running up there you can certainly hear the difference. LOL


I'm posting this just so you get a view of "The Doorstop" as it's been named by the NorCal Shelby group.



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[Sieg]

What a great backup car! :D

[MattO]

Really wish I'd have remembered about this so I could harass you AND Charlie in one sitting.

I'll have to settle for the roadster show instead :D

[fleet]

As much as I like the Cobra replicas, the Lotus seems like a much better choice for a track car.

[GregWeld]

As much as I like the Cobra replicas, the Lotus seems like a much better choice for a track car.



It's pretty cheap fun ---- at the end of Saturday -- although I maybe only ran 2 or 3 sessions in it -- I had to put 5 gallons of 110 in it.... vs --- 7 or 8 gallons PER 20 minute session in the Mustang.


I also didn't start to really push the Lotus until Sunday after I'd gotten some seat time in it. It's quite "tail happy".... and the POS Yokohama A048's are about as greasy a tire as I've ever driven on... the car is so light that it has problems building any heat in the tire. I followed the previous owners notes and was running cold pressures of 21 lbs all around. GREASY GREASY GREASY.... but once I could get a little heat - then it settled down. Still --- needs real race tires.... not street tires.

All in all -- a nice little car for the 60K I paid for it. If it stays together -- it'll be way cheaper than the Mustang is turning out to be! LOL

[Track Junky]

Nice lines Greg, you look great out there. Lotus looks like a hoot :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Really wish I'd have remembered about this so I could harass you AND Charlie in one sitting.

I'll have to settle for the roadster show instead :D



You've got plenty of time!


I even laid off poor Charley since he'd just had an issue with his forehead so wasn't feeling up to snuff.... That left only poor Gaetano to put up with me... and Chet --- but Chet had family around so I couldn't really pound him like usual. HA!!

[GregWeld]

Nice lines Greg, you look great out there. Lotus looks like a hoot :thumbsup:



I need a crew chief!


LOL


Good talkin' to ya today buddy. Your panties are in the mail.

[Track Junky]

I need a crew chief!


LOL


Good talkin' to ya today buddy. Your panties are in the mail.


:lol: See ya at Laguna

[fleet]

Greg,

Enjoyed the vid. :thumbsup:

Well hopefully the Mutstang will finish it's 'teething' very soon.

Have you chosen a new tire yet for the Lotus?

And what's the next time you're going to track the car(s)?

[clill]

I watched that video and had to grin. I remember having to talk Greg into buying my Mustang and come to a driving school with the Shelby club. Told him he would not be in over his head. He would be learning with other beginners. Now seeing the video from his 60K car, the Renegade Toterhome etc is perfect. Yes I had fun making Greg spend money but I bet he hasn't had this much fun in years. I did the same with Chet and he also is having more car fun then ever.:cheers:

[Track Junky]

I notice that about friends in this hobby. They always seem to make you spend more money. :headscratch:

[GregWeld]

I watched that video and had to grin. I remember having to talk Greg into buying my Mustang and come to a driving school with the Shelby club. Told him he would not be in over his head. He would be learning with other beginners. Now seeing the video from his 60K car, the Renegade Toterhome etc is perfect. Yes I had fun making Greg spend money but I bet he hasn't had this much fun in years. I did the same with Chet and he also is having more car fun then ever.:cheers:



Yep! Some friend you've turned out to be! Gwen says she's not letting me hang around you anymore -- you're too expensive! LOL


OMG! Your last sentence is spot on.... Playing with these cars on the track is just the ultimate and I only wish I'd have discovered how much fun it was earlier in life - but we still have plenty of years ahead. The guy with the White and blue stripe Mustang just on the other side of me this weekend -- he's 79 !! Still out there making it happen.

When we're 80 and at a track event -- do you think either of us will remember what gear we're in? Or how to get home?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[intocarss]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Okay --- Here's some more narcissistic cellophane for your viewing pleasure...


This was earlier in the same session as the other one I posted.... and this shows Tommy pointing me by -- but I waved him off -- and the corner workers as well - as they were giving Tommy the "faster traffic" flag...


At the time I had no idea the driver was a whopping 14 years old..... When I put him in the Lotus I had to grab two bath towels out of the house to prop him up in the seat!



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[Spiffav8]

Man that looks like a lot of fun. Great to see you out having such a good time!

[GregWeld]

And here... finally (it takes so long to upload a video to YouTube!) is Tommy driving the Lotus....



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[GregWeld]

Here's little Tommy's "racing credentials".... do the math -- he's 14 years old - and will turn a whopping 15 next week....



And the rest of you want to adjust tire pressure and click shocks..... Yeah right.... how about just learning how to drive???





Tommy McCarthy is Fourteen years old and has been racing since the age of five. Tommy has won 600+ races, and holds championships in all three major racing disciplines; road course karting, pavement ovals (large & small), and dirt-tracks. Tommy’s achievements include:

2012 QMA Grand National Champion Dirt A Class
2012 USAC Albuquerque Champion Pavement Sr. Animal Class
2012 QMA Winter National Champion Lt World Formula Class
2012 QMA Red Jacket Track Records at Madera A & B Class
2011 QMA Grand National Champion Pavement Lt. AA Class.
2011 QMA Western National Champion Pavement Lt World Formula Class
2011 WSRA Mini Cup Champion Pavement (most wins too).
2011 QMA Region 10 Champion: Lt. Mod (undefeated), & Lt. World Formula.
2011 Baylands Champion Lt. World Formula & Track Record Holder
2011 QMA American Track Records in Lt. AA & World Formula
2010 Western Indoor Lt. Mod Champion & Lt. AA Champion
2010 QMA Region 10 Champion: Sr. Stk, Lt. Mod, and Lt. 160 (undefeated).
2010 USAC “Battle of the Brickyard” Sr. Stk Champion, Indianapolis Motor Speedway
2010 Baylands Lt. 160 Champion (undefeated)
2009 Motor Sports Press Association “Rising Star Award” Recipient
2009 MMRA Mini Cup Rookie of the Year
2009-current MMRA Mini Cup Stockton 99 Speedway Track Record
2009-current MMRA Mini Cup Madera Speedway Track Record
2009 Region 10 Quarter Midget Sr. Stock Champion
2009 Baylands Quarter Midget Sr. Stock Champion
2009 Jim Russell Infenion Raceway Karting Arrive & Drive Cadet Series June Winner & Track Record
2009 Jim Russell Infenion Raceway Karting Gazelle Series, Champion and Undefeated
2009 Tri-Valley Howard Memorial Sr. Stock Track Record & Lt. Mod Track Record
2009 Vallejo Indoor Lt. Mod Champion, Lt. 160 Champion, & Sr. Stock Champion (three in the same year).
2009 Hangover Classic Sr. Honda Champion & Sr. Stock Champion
2008 Baylands Quarter Midget Sportsman of the Year (voted by other drivers)
2008 Region 10 Quarter Midget Sr. Stock Champion
2008 MONZA Quarter Midget Sr. Stock Champion
2008 Baylands Quarter Midget Sr. Stock Champion
2008 Tri-Bay Quarter Midget Series Sr. Stock & Lt. Mod Champion
2008 Baylands Sr. Stock Track Record
2008 Tri-Valley Sr. Stock Track Record
2008 Won 64 Races (Heat Races & Main Events)
2008 Las Vagas Clash Race Jr. Stock Champion & Jr. Honda Champion
2007 Baylands Quarter Midget Jr. Stock Champion & Jr. Honda Champion
2007 Madera “Galante” Jr. Honda Track Record
2007 Tri-Valley Jr. Stock “Howard Memorial” Track Record
2007 BQMRA MONZA Jr. Honda Track Record
2007 Won 60 Races (Heat Races & Main Events)
2006 Baylands Jr. Stock Champion & Jr. Honda Champion
2006 American Quarter Midget Jr. Stock Track Record
2005 Baylands Rookie of the Year.

[fleet]

Pretty sure if we had little Tommy's cholesterol level we might win sumthun too. #webmd



:tv_happy:

[Sieg]

Here's little Tommy's "racing credentials"....
:secret: That says something about the shift linkage........

[GregWeld]

:secret: That says something about the shift linkage........



No not really ---- #1 the shifter in this little POS is incredible... super tight pattern... very short throw.... and I did the same thing little Tommy did until I finally had some time in the car and then that went away. The primary H pattern is very close - then the 5 and 6 pattern is over to your right.... and it was very easy at first to go from 4th to 3rd unless you made a deliberate move to the passenger side to slide it up into 5th.

On this track -- I only slid it into 6th ONCE that I can remember..... and of course a better driver might come off the corners onto the straights carrying more speed therefore getting into the higher gears sooner... and maybe I'd be a better driver if I spent more time adjusting my air pressures. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA


Later on Sunday I did make an attempt to stay up with a couple of race prepped ZR1's that were running in the Blue group (they combined the blue and green later on Sunday) and I was very happy with the Lotus's performance.... I, however, knew I was driving way over my head and let them go after a couple corners. The car/driver combo was just way too fast for my LOFT.

[Sieg]

I was hoping it was acclamation period. Took me a while with the T56 Mag and Hurst shifter. Trust and a little leap of faith. :D

[GregWeld]

I have to say == I wouldn't change a thing on the little POS. It needs way better tires... so I'll get a couple sets of those coming but other than that I was very happy with it.

It's funny to hear it run thru the gears -- you don't hear much of anything when you have the helmet on and the air whizzin' past you... and all that buzzing sound is going away to the rear.

Now the Mustang on the other hand... OH YEAH!!

[DaleTx]

Okay --- Here's some more narcissistic cellophane for your viewing pleasure...


This was earlier in the same session as the other one I posted.... and this shows Tommy pointing me by -- but I waved him off -- and the corner workers as well - as they were giving Tommy the "faster traffic" flag...



Nice driving Greg :thumbsup: Smart move to follow the kid around the track… he has the lines dialed in.

Enjoyed the videos… The Lotus looks like so much fun!

:cheers:

[GregWeld]

Nice driving Greg :thumbsup: Smart move to follow the kid around the track… he has the lines dialed in.

Enjoyed the videos… The Lotus looks like so much fun!

:cheers:



Thanks Dale! And just think - you were there the day I bought the little POS!!


Thanks for the kudos.... but as you stated -- the KID had the lines -- it was super easy to just coast around behind him and commit them to memory. Left on my own - I tend to go into attack mode - hitting it harder and harder until something lets go... like the grip.... I even managed a tank slapper from 8 up to 9! There's a super nice set of black stripes that look like a slalom course was set up. HAHAHAHAHAHA I'm not even sure how I started that! The Lotus loved it.

[Sieg]

I have to say == I wouldn't change a thing on the little POS. It needs way better tires... so I'll get a couple sets of those coming but other than that I was very happy with it.

It's funny to hear it run thru the gears -- you don't hear much of anything when you have the helmet on and the air whizzin' past you... and all that buzzing sound is going away to the rear.

Now the Mustang on the other hand... OH YEAH!!

How old are the current tires?

You must be fast cause you were haulin azz when I buzzed by you!!

[GregWeld]

How old are the current tires?

You must be fast cause you were haulin azz when I buzzed by you!!


Good question.... But I have no answer. They're coming off regardless.... I can't waste 2 and 3 laps waiting for the tires to start to work.

[GregWeld]

AH HEM..... <clearing throat>


Perhaps a few more people should read this statement from the Lotus "chassis set up" manual:



The more time you spend in the car, the more you will learn what can be achieved with the vehicle. Until you gain sufficient experience, do not make any changes to the car. Get used to the car in its standard, very good, base setting. Only when you are fully comfortable with the car should you begin to consider the adjustments described within this manual.


I think the point they're making is ---- learn how to drive first.... and once you can really drive to a cars POTENTIAL -- then you can start to customize it. Until then - leave the SOB alone.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[GregWeld]

One of the things that BONDURANT beat into my fat little head was "you have to hit EVERY APEX"... At first I was getting "close" to the apex -- and an instructor came out and ran in front of me (I was in a single seat Formula Mazda) and showed me how much easier it was to carry speed IF I hit the apex because it makes your exit better. Hope that makes sense.

Now -- in wheel to wheel racing - that's not possible and it's why you see banging and all manor of mayhem. But in track days -- you should be able to hit your marks.


I'm not trying to be narcissistic here... I certainly don't think I'm a great driver - I'm a beginner... I can still spin anywhere on the track. I'm just making a point to those that perhaps are interested in doing this kind of driving with their cars.... Hitting the apex is really important. I try to do it in every turn. As I get better I'll practice being off line and still be able to negotiate the turn -- that's much harder to do!




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The other thing they'll beat into you -- is how important it is to LOOK UP LOOK AHEAD AND LOOK THRU THE TURN TO YOUR EXIT. It doesn't make a lot of sense until you do it. It slows everything down as far as your eyes/brain go... and there's some magic link between your eyes/brain and your actions with hands and feet. Again I'm TRYING to practice good habits when on track. I'm TRYING not to get caught up staring at the guys bumper in front of me - drive my own line - and LOOKING AHEAD. So when I was sent this shot - I was glad to see that it "appears" that I'm doing that. It's so easy to stare at the cone in the apex etc.



While following Tommy McCarthy --- I was turning consistent 2:16 laps -- that's probably 10 seconds slower than what I'd have been running if I was just out there hittin' it. BUT what happens when you're doing that is you're able to think about something else other than OMG I hope I make this turn! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA His line was very smooth - he didn't have the power to smoke down the straights - but he carried that speed thru turns and in a lot of cases he exited the turn faster than I did because I had to brake to stay behind him... and he had the momentum and now I'm hard on the juice to keep up. It really showed me A LOT by doing that for a few laps.






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[DOOM]

AH HEM..... <clearing throat>


Perhaps a few more people should read this statement from the Lotus "chassis set up" manual:



The more time you spend in the car, the more you will learn what can be achieved with the vehicle. Until you gain sufficient experience, do not make any changes to the car. Get used to the car in its standard, very good, base setting. Only when you are fully comfortable with the car should you begin to consider the adjustments described within this manual.


I think the point they're making is ---- learn how to drive first.... and once you can really drive to a cars POTENTIAL -- then you can start to customize it. Until then - leave the SOB alone.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What do they know at LOTUS!?:_paranoid

[intocarss]

Great pics!!!

[GregWeld]

Great pics!!!




They're by "GotBlueMilk" --- they come out to the track and then post them on their website and you can order digital or prints. He does a real good job.

[Track Junky]

Alot of great points Greg. Especially the one about looking through and ahead of the turn. I was given the same advise for turn 8 at T-Hill and it certainly did help. Even with that advise I think I have only nailed it perfectly once.

[GregWeld]

Alot of great points Greg. Especially the one about looking through and ahead of the turn. I was given the same advise for turn 8 at T-Hill and it certainly did help. Even with that advise I think I have only nailed it perfectly once.




You should go up and see the "tank slapper" double black stripes exiting 8 and heading up to 9 !!


OMG..... I was pounding the top of 5th gear (127mph) and the steering on the Lotus is so light and precise... and I was trying to not saw it but I had to catch the ass which was trying to do the f'n rumba.


I've been having a running dialog (gee who'd a thunk it?) with the Unlimited Champion (2 years!) in the Lotus Cup.... about the set up and tires etc and have learned a few things about the little POS... and it seems the issues I was having with the car are very well known - and there are "fixes" for them. Such as the RAKE (the body is designed a particular way to aid downforce and if WRONG - makes a mess of things in the rear) --- the tires --- and the AERO WING settings.


Of course Jack wants me to move up to TRIPLE ADJUSTABLE shocks from the current double adjustable Ohlins. That ain't happenin'. To F'n' many knobs. I only need to turn one "knob" -- it's connected to the front wheels.

[GregWeld]

I have made some MAJOR strides in getting my head wrapped around this little POS.... and have GREAT INSIGHT for set up and modifications required by the Lotus Cup Unlimited CHAMP (2012 and 2010) who campaigns a 2008 2 Eleven.

What a great guy and I can't thank him enough.


Then today -- as luck would have it -- I run into the Lotus Service Engineer - whom also has massive race pedigree including F1 teams.... and he printed off some super useful "notes" for me! Wow...


Just to pee off Gaetano and Todd.... I've even upgraded a couple of tools.


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[protour73]

Then today -- as luck would have it -- I run into the Lotus Service Engineer - whom also has massive race pedigree including F1 teams.... and he printed off some super useful "notes" for me! Wow...


F1 experience = LISTEN to that guy!! How fortunate you are to have someone like that to give you advice, Greg

The more time you spend in the car, the more you will learn what can be achieved with the vehicle. Until you gain sufficient experience, do not make any changes to the car. Get used to the car in its standard, very good, base setting. Only when you are fully comfortable with the car should you begin to consider the adjustments described within this manual.
This could be my new signature!!!

[Sieg]

I have no idea what the track temps where -- I have no idea how many clicks on my shocks... I have even less idea where my anti-roll bars are set... or how much toe-in I have or don't have. I own lots of tools and bring many down with me - but only to loan to others that may have a need. I come down for the FUN... If it breaks it goes on the trailer and I ride the passenger side with anyone that will let me.


I just set tire pressures.... put on my driver stuff... strap in -- and go out and have a blast. I pass some people -- and since I've moved up to Green group - some people pass me... then they wave a checkered flag and I get off track and go sit on my fat little ass until they call Green group again. :>)


All in all -- a nice little car for the 60K I paid for it. If it stays together -- it'll be way cheaper than the Mustang is turning out to be! LOL

I have made some MAJOR strides in getting my head wrapped around this little POS.... and have GREAT INSIGHT for set up and modifications required by the Lotus Cup Unlimited CHAMP (2012 and 2010) who campaigns a 2008 2 Eleven.

What a great guy and I can't thank him enough.


Then today -- as luck would have it -- I run into the Lotus Service Engineer - whom also has massive race pedigree including F1 teams.... and he printed off some super useful "notes" for me! Wow...


Just to pee off Gaetano and Todd.... I've even upgraded a couple of tools.


:bang: :bang: :bang:

:popcorn2:

[DFRESH]

Man, those vids are so cool. Can't wait to get back to the track. So much fun. Glad you are having fun GW---it's what this should all be about---nice example for us to follow!

D

[DaleTx]

I have made some MAJOR strides in getting my head wrapped around this little POS.... and have GREAT INSIGHT for set up and modifications required by the Lotus Cup Unlimited CHAMP (2012 and 2010) who campaigns a 2008 2 Eleven.

That's awesome!... Learning how to get around the track and drive the proper lines is a kick... but during the down time there is nothing more fun than tinkering and making the car just a little bit better for the next time. Glad to see your enjoying the new car so much... that's what it's all about.

:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

:bang: :bang: :bang:

:popcorn2:




Now -- everyone should know.... I don't have that great big shop and all those tools.... just to sit around and look pretty and twiddle my thumbs...


The cars are well serviced... and the set ups and motors and all the fixin's get well loved -- BEFORE I GET TO THE TRACK... not AT the track. At the track it's time to just drive 'em... If they don't work like they should - ya bring 'em home and figure it out before the next outing.

Why is it everyone thinks I was born an hour ago? :lol:

[Sieg]

Why is it everyone thinks I was born an hour ago? :lol:
No it's more like 525840 hours ago.

[GregWeld]

Man, those vids are so cool. Can't wait to get back to the track. So much fun. Glad you are having fun GW---it's what this should all be about---nice example for us to follow!

D




Thanks buddy!


I love doing this stuff. I'm like Charley - Auto X is not my thing - but I love these track days.

I think the part I like about them is that there's no pressure to perform. You just go out and drive your car. Nobody is keeping track of anything... nobody is going to win or lose. This makes it pressure free and as far as I'm concerned RELAXING and ENJOYABLE. We're all competitive. I don't want people in front of me just driving away from me so I'm going to try to catch them if I can. But the only guy tracking that is ME. If I don't catch them - or some guy passes me - nobody cares. It's just a great way to spend a weekend.

The competitive part comes out -- in all of us -- in that we're all born "improvers". If we weren't - we wouldn't be on websites like this - and we wouldn't have any cars other than daily drivers. So we're always looking for ways to do it faster - more - better.... and that is also part of the fun of the whole gig.

I've been on line more this week than I have been in months -- shopping - reading - researching - emailing... and just trying to learn and figure it all out. I love it.

[GregWeld]

No it's more like 525840 hours ago.



Good gawd! No wonder I feel so worn out!


Are WE really that old??


Please -- don't answer that! :action-smiley-027:

[Sieg]

Are WE really that old??

We as in Me..........only 486180 :mock:

[GregWeld]

That's awesome!... Learning how to get around the track and drive the proper lines is a kick... but during the down time there is nothing more fun than tinkering and making the car just a little bit better for the next time. Glad to see your enjoying the new car so much... that's what it's all about.

:thumbsup:




Dale.... I've gone absolutely NUTS!!


So during the first track weekend -- it was obvious to me that the car was tail happy. Not sure why or what could be done about it - but it was a really sweet driving car - until you hit the magic limit and when you hit that - this thing was going to do it's best to come around on you.

It was equally obvious that the 'street/track' tires were just not going to get it. That's EASY to fix... But then I started digging. Turns out - many people bought the 2 Eleven only to promptly sell them = and the car quickly gained a reputation as being a tail happy POS. That's a bad rap for a "track car" to have.

Now - like most things - there's clever ways to fix this - or at least to get it under control - and a few people have stuck with it and got it down. The current Champ being one of them. All it takes is ordering a bunch of little things --- a few settings massaged -- and it turns into a wicked little track beast.

I'd missed a couple of shifts during the weekend.... thinking it's me and I need to get more seat time. Turns out that is ANOTHER issue that has reared it's ugly little head -- that and -- these tend to tear apart the exhaust system - either breaking it outright - or just twisting it until it comes apart. WELL WHAT DO YOU KNOW -- during the last track weekend I noticed the exhaust had come apart!!! I thought WTF -- but just bolted it back together -- and upon return to the shop - some serious clamp work ensued. WELL -- turns out the real issue is the factory engine mounts allow the motor to move too much.... and low and behold --- there's someone out there making track versions. Yep - they're ordered. They fix TWO problems -- missed shifts under load -- and eliminate the exhaust issues.

Sticky tires finds the weak link in the oiling system -- the factory pan has no baffles and allows the oil to go up the sidewalls during hard cornering... Enter Moroso -- and BINGO a baffled pan... DONE.

The missed shifts cause an over rev problem - which blows up the factory sintered metal oil pump gears.... Yep -- billet versions just arrived today. Along with the fix for the missed shifts - this is also good insurance.

The factory aero wing -- is right in line with the roll bar. Dirty air. Someone makes an extension that raises the wing up a couple inches and bingo!

I was told to either do a Gurney flap -- or.... the same place that makes the wing extension - makes a wider wing. ALL of this adds downforce to help control that happy tail at high speed.

Guess what else I discovered.... which is about the dumbest thing EVER..... THE BRAKES DO NOT WORK IF YOU SPIN THE CAR AND ARE GOING BACKWARDS... this in a tail happy car. I didn't know this but have been assured it's a fact. It's a defect in the ABS system. They simply go into ICE MODE and all you have is a hard pedal but no braking. Hmmmmmmmmm No factory support for this anomaly. I'll discuss this with Mark at SEMA. Or ditch the factory ABS in favor of a dual master with a balance bar....

Then I discovered another brilliant oversight -- the factory knock mic is between 2 and 3 mounted outside of the block ----- and right under the blower. It picks up blower noise as knock and pulls out timing. The fix? Detach it from the block and zip tie it to the chassis..... and run good fuel. 100 octane. I can get a flash on the ECU to take advantage of the better fuel grade.

To some this might seem like A LOT - to me - it's only the beginning. I love this stuff! Make a list and get busy!!

[GregWeld]

We as in Me..........only 486180 :mock:



Well crap!

[Payton King]

you would have been disappointed if it was perfect right out of the box. As fast as you thought the car was before, cannot wait to hear what it is like when properly tuned.

[Track Junky]

I have made some MAJOR strides in getting my head wrapped around this little POS.... and have GREAT INSIGHT for set up and modifications required by the Lotus Cup Unlimited CHAMP (2012 and 2010) who campaigns a 2008 2 Eleven.

What a great guy and I can't thank him enough.


Then today -- as luck would have it -- I run into the Lotus Service Engineer - whom also has massive race pedigree including F1 teams.... and he printed off some super useful "notes" for me! Wow...


Just to pee off Gaetano and Todd.... I've even upgraded a couple of tools.


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You must have been reading my mind. I was thinking about picking up the Longacre tire temp probe for Laguna. Even told Jerry to pick one up before he starts taking his beast out. :thumbsup:
You going to have both cars ready by the 26th?

[GregWeld]

you would have been disappointed if it was perfect right out of the box. As fast as you thought the car was before, cannot wait to hear what it is like when properly tuned.


Well that's somewhat true Payton... but I was just trying to buy a "spare"... so two things come to mind. A) It wasn't supposed to be able to pass anything and B) It's a Lotus factory built "track day car"

So I would have expected far less capability -- which would then mean that it's handling would have been more than adequate.

Given it's speed capability.. which is awesome... it then needs to handle far better than it does - even though it handles very well.

And you're right... WE (all of us) have that "make it better DNA"


:confused18: :drowninga:



You must have been reading my mind. I was thinking about picking up the Longacre tire temp probe for Laguna. Even told Jerry to pick one up before he starts taking his beast out. :thumbsup:
You going to have both cars ready by the 26th?




Because other folks are reading these threads ---- The tire pyrometer is used to check alignment and chassis set up by reading the temperature of the tire in three places --- outside - middle - inside (tread) --- On the Lotus -- the factory wants to see about 10* centigrade HOTTER on the inside reading. Obviously if the center reading was higher -- that would indicate you're running too much tire pressure... etc. If you know chassis set up -- these temps can tell you a lot about what's happening with the car.


Gaetano --- Just so you know.... I'd absolutely love for you to be at Laguna -- there won't be any adjustments done to the car at the track. There's going to be TWO drivers (Alex in Yellow group) and if he doesn't wreck in his first session -- then myself (green group)...

I've gotten three pages of "set up" notes from the ultimate source - a guy that has many many hours of seat time in these cars - and has two championships in them. SO my seat time will be ascertaining the difference in what I started with -- and what he has guided me to do. It will now be running slicks -- completely different tire pressures (the Yoko's had 21# cold - the slicks will have 16r and 17f cold)... a completely new radical alignment ... and new aero wing settings -- and chassis height front to back rake settings. That should be enough changes given that I might get one or two sessions in since it's only a one day event.

I can only HOPE that the Mustang has a newly repaired motor in time. I'm not holding my breath. When one does that - one tends to turn blue -- starting with the dangling sack. I need it to be right rather than ready. I'm really really tired of leaving it behind after each event.

[Ron in SoCal]

Guess what else I discovered.... which is about the dumbest thing EVER..... THE BRAKES DO NOT WORK IF YOU SPIN THE CAR AND ARE GOING BACKWARDS... this in a tail happy car. I didn't know this but have been assured it's a fact. It's a defect in the ABS system. They simply go into ICE MODE and all you have is a hard pedal but no braking. Hmmmmmmmmm No factory support for this anomaly. I'll discuss this with Mark at SEMA. Or ditch the factory ABS in favor of a dual master with a balance bar....


You're not alone Weldski. I saw this some time ago when searching for BB kits and replacement rotors:

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f91/very-scary-brake-problem-today-ice-mode-victim-70922/

[GregWeld]

You're not alone Weldski. I saw this some time ago when searching for BB kits and replacement rotors:

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f91/very-scary-brake-problem-today-ice-mode-victim-70922/




This is not a good situation to have in a "race car".... where spins - if you're driving the f'n' thing at all... tend to happen once in awhile. In a spin - it's both feet in! I want brakes BEFORE I tap the wall.

It will be remedied. I'm not tracking/racing in the rain. It's not a street car.

[GregWeld]

Sometimes you MUST SPIN TO WIN.....





sKOaF7esBFY

[GregWeld]

New spare set of TeamDyanmics forged wheels for the Little Lotus...





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[MattO]

Awe, to have Weld money lol :bigun2:

Loving the oil pan. Gives me a better idea on the baffling I need to do for my truck. The sloshing is so bad that I can't even panic stop without the dash lighting up like a christmas tree :twak:

[GregWeld]

Awe, to have Weld money lol :bigun2:

Loving the oil pan. Gives me a better idea on the baffling I need to do for my truck. The sloshing is so bad that I can't even panic stop without the dash lighting up like a christmas tree :twak:



The idiot that said "money isn't everything" or "money can't buy you happiness" ===== well ==== he was just that. An idiot.


:lol:

[ironworks]

The idiot that said "money isn't everything" or "money can't buy you happiness" ===== well ==== he was just that. An idiot.


:lol:

But it wont buy you height or good looks. That's what I tell myself at least.

[GregWeld]

The idiot that said "money isn't everything" or "money can't buy you happiness" ===== well ==== he was just that. An idiot.


:lol:



If you want better pics I can take 'em -- it gets installed on Monday. Actually 425 Motorsports is coming to get the little POS and do the corner weighting - chassis height and wheel alignments - mount up all the new tires and wheels etc... then it goes to Lotus on Wednesday for the oil pump and pan... So if you need pics tell me!

[GregWeld]

But it wont buy you height or good looks. That's what I tell myself at least.



You know - I think it wasn't long ago when you worked more and posted less.... oh yeah! That was when Shannon was still in the office....


That whole height and looks thing is way over rated -- just look at Lillard and Jody....

[ironworks]

You know - I think it wasn't long ago when you worked more and posted less.... oh yeah! That was when Shannon was still in the office....


That whole height and looks thing is way over rated -- just look at Lillard and Jody....

Yes I can see Gwen must be back state side as you not driving you big rig all of the North West.

[GregWeld]

Yes I can see Gwen must be back state side as you not driving you big rig all of the North West.



She's outside washing it - as we speak....


I'm too busy posting.

[ironworks]

She's outside washing it - as we speak....


I'm too busy posting.


Right......... I don't believe it till I see pics

[fleet]

New spare set of TeamDyanmics forged wheels for the Little Lotus...





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Like the looks of those wheels. :cool:

[GregWeld]

Like the looks of those wheels. :cool:



They won't fit on any Ford....

[fleet]

They won't fit on any Ford....

As my daughter would say... 'No struggs'. :relax:

I jes like 'em. :D

[Track Junky]

Sometimes you MUST SPIN TO WIN.....





sKOaF7esBFY

Weld FTW!! Nice vid :lol:
Just a heads up.....I had no intention of even thinking about touching the Lotus. Way out of my league.
Definitely wanted to play around with that ass happy Muttstang of yours though. (Hence the tire temp probe).
Anyhow.....got a renter moving out of one of my rentals at the end of the month which means I've got more on my plate in November(clean up and upgrades). If I finish up in time I'll see you. :knokwood:

[MattO]

A few pics would be awesome. I'm most interested in the gaps around the main baffle plate (I'm sure there's a technical term that has been lost on me.) I don't think I'm going to get too fancy with it. My little POS Chebby won't pull hard to the side like most people here. :hitaxeonthehead:

[GregWeld]

A few pics would be awesome. I'm most interested in the gaps around the main baffle plate (I'm sure there's a technical term that has been lost on me.) I don't think I'm going to get too fancy with it. My little POS Chebby won't pull hard to the side like most people here. :hitaxeonthehead:



Did you post this is the right thread Matt??


I've read this three times and still have no idea what you're asking about. WTF is the main baffle plate?? :BlahBlah:

[MattO]

I dunno either. Might have been talking to the voices again.

Do you have any more pics of the bad ass oil pan? I'm about to tackle this tyoe of setup in a stock pan for my truck and am interested to know what I'm up against. :wrongforum:

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[GregWeld]

I'll post up some pics today for ya Matt. If I can -- I'll get a feeler gauge in the shots so you can see what's up.

[MattO]

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Thank you sir. I've never done baffling before and I'm really unsure of how much of a gap I should allow where the baffle won't meet the pan.

[GregWeld]

Okay Matt -- just for you - I disassembled the pan so I could get better measurements and better shots for what's inside….

The BAFFLE HOLES are .250" (1/4") off the bottom -- so it takes 1/4" of oil to get to the bottom of the holes…. or thinking of it a better way -- there's always going to be 1/4" of oil in the little sump box.


The FLAPPER DOORS only open to the inside to let oil IN the book -- and they're also .250" off the bottom -- so the flaps are just right at the bottom of the holes.


The box is basically just creating a sump for the pick up…. I haven't dropped the pan to see what size the pick up is so I don't know how much room they're left "around" the pick up. My guess is 1/2 to 1" on all sides.




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Trap doors are on the INSIDE of the "sump box" and only open inwards




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[GregWeld]

And then for the rest of you suckwads :D that think I don't care about handling (I do -- I'm just not spending my track time messin' with stuff - I'm there to DRIVE).


The car is going for line up - corner balance - height set up - rake etc --- so since I have SPECIAL settings -- I've made sure they're there for reference….




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[MattO]

Many thanks sir. I'm pretty sure this means I owe you pancakes or some sort of alcoholic beverage. :thankyou: :topic: :cheers:

[Track Junky]

And then for the rest of you suckwads :D that think I don't care about handling (I do -- I'm just not spending my track time messin' with stuff - I'm there to DRIVE).


The car is going for line up - corner balance - height set up - rake etc --- so since I have SPECIAL settings -- I've made sure they're there for reference…

So does this mean you will be driving in on a "SPECIAL NEEDS" bus. :lol:

[GregWeld]

So does this mean you will be driving in on a "SPECIAL NEEDS" bus. :lol:




You forgot an important part -- and that would be "a Special needs bus - BACKWARDS".

[Sieg]

Fashion faux pas..........you really should be using yellow tape with silver Sharpie boarders for your notes. :whistling:

[GregWeld]

Fashion faux pas..........you really should be using yellow tape with silver Sharpie boarders for your notes. :whistling:



It was on Back-order

[GregWeld]

I will give Lotus a "shout out" - they're very free with their information and actually have copious "notes" that are there for the taking - regarding the entire chassis set up - with "X" tire (the dog crap Advan A048) and "slicks"… These notes give a great deal of detail regarding every facet. They explain - if you do "X" then you can expect to also adjust "A and B" and get "X" feel from the car -- and doing "Y" means you need to do "C and D and B" in order to get a different result.


In speaking with Lotus -- they don't consider Hoosier R6's as "slicks"… too funny -- but there are REAL SLICKS from Hoosier and others… and the R6's are considered to be less than that. Of course you can order "slicks" in various compounds from soft to hard - and the R6's are just what they are. For track days…. R6's will be a major step up from the "street/track" compound used in the A048's - and I suspect the the A048's where a bit used up as far as heat cycles go.


Here's my thoughts on all of this…. I'm going to just make base adjustments due to changing to "slicks"…. I've adjusted the aero wing for "MAX" downforce (I certainly don't care about maximum top speed) and we'll just go with that. My driving is the main difference between happy tail and not… so until I get that part fixed - the car will be just fine… and I'll just learn what's to be expected and roll with it.

[Sieg]

Just eliminating the tire unknown variable is big. One baseline change at a time......similar to tuning a carb.

(I certainly don't care about maximum top speed)

Me neither........as long as I can comfortably dominate nearly every car in my group. :unibrow: :D

[GregWeld]

Just eliminating the tire unknown variable is big. One baseline change at a time......similar to tuning a carb.



Me neither........as long as I can comfortably dominate nearly every car in my group. :unibrow: :D





Well I take that "LEARN HOW TO DRIVE" statement to heart. I don't just say that to "others" (that really do need to get over the whole I'm AJ Foyt syndrome) but it most certainly applies to me as well!…. CHARLEY never spins… and he's fast… so if I could just have one weekend where I felt fast AND didn't spin - then I think I'd be on the road to the beginners learning ladder. Until then - I just want the car to be "fine". I'll learn how to drive it the way it is and be happy with it. Until I've got enough seat time in the car where I can start to play with all the variables there's not much point in trying to improve them until I improve myself.

[Sieg]

Confidence in your equipment and setup leads to confidence in your abilities which allows you to relax which allows you to be smooth which allows you to be fast and enjoy the ride. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Confidence in your equipment and setup leads to confidence in your abilities which allows you to relax which allows you to be smooth which allows you to be fast and enjoy the ride. :thumbsup:




All absolutely true and spot on. I really really enjoyed the driving just following little Tommy McCarthy around the track…. I was relaxed - motions in the car smoothed out - car was stable… and it was FUN.

This is why I say I need to learn to drive. The CAR is far more capable than I.

[Stuart Adams]

Just like life, enjoy the ride at your pace. Its cool your having fun.

[DaleTx]

Here's my thoughts on all of this…. I'm going to just make base adjustments due to changing to "slicks"…. I've adjusted the aero wing for "MAX" downforce (I certainly don't care about maximum top speed) and we'll just go with that. My driving is the main difference between happy tail and not… so until I get that part fixed - the car will be just fine… and I'll just learn what's to be expected and roll with it.

It sounds like you are getting the car set up dialed in. As far as the driving goes... I wonder if there are special driving techniques you can apply when driving a car that is loose (tail happy) versus driving a car that pushes. It seems like you would want to be on the gas sooner after entering the corner to transfer the weight to the back of the car. Hit the brakes hard while in a straight line... then get right back on the throttle going in to the corner. Probably a way different strategy required than when driving the Mustang.

Just throwing out ideas here... Car is looking good, look forward to updates after the next outing :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

It sounds like you are getting the car set up dialed in. As far as the driving goes... I wonder if there are special driving techniques you can apply when driving a car that is loose (tail happy) versus driving a car that pushes. It seems like you would want to be on the gas sooner after entering the corner to transfer the weight to the back of the car. Hit the brakes hard while in a straight line... then get right back on the throttle going in to the corner. Probably a way different strategy required than when driving the Mustang.

Just throwing out ideas here... Car is looking good, look forward to updates after the next outing :thumbsup:


I just finished up DIRTFISH school which is ALL about weight transfer in a wild and wicked way -- and after 3 Bondurant schools - and Spring Mountain ZO6 school… I totally get the whole weight transfer thing.


There is absolutely ZERO comparison or any semblance of sameness between the Mustang and the Lotus… and I was getting out of one - and driving the other next session. I'm absolutely convinced NOW - that the tires on the Lotus were just "used up"…. as there was no grip - and there was really no grip when you expected there to be some (i.e., an easy turn in).

The weight split on the Lotus is 63% rear. Trying to transfer weight from the front to the rear - unlike the Mustang - was nearly non existent. There just isn't the torque to lift the nose in order to squat the rear. The car is so friggin light! If I jab the loud pedal on the Mustang - the weight transfer is instant - it's like bang - squat and dig… But with the Lotus - a jab of the pedal just produced speed without the resulting bite you wanted --- if that makes some sense. So then I became "afraid" of trying to use that tactic. I just had to become smoother -- and that was a "newb" transition that was hard to master jumping from one car to the other.

Regardless of how many schools I've been to -- remembering all the things you're supposed to do - and when - well - they aren't "automatic". They become that way later in the day or the second day etc because then you've got some seat time and things just get easier and you make adjustments without even thinking about them.

The Lotus was just flat "greasy" --- I've said that before - and that's the part that sticks out about it the most. Fun - and fast - but dangerously greasy especially with the speed it was able to carry. The video only showed the part following little Tommy - but I was probably turning 2.0's or 2.02's and I thought the car was capable of sub 2's "if only" I could learn to drive it. Now - I think the car is capable of 1.50's with the right grip - and the aero and a few other mods I'm making.

It's a funny little car -- you all know you can FEEL when you have grip and there is a seat of the pants feel that let's you know when you're pushing it or your limits. I'd go down the front straights and begin the turn in and think -- I should have carried more speed thru there -- and then bam - the tail would let loose… and you'd think WTF was that all about. You're then reliving the turn thru the next corner and thinking "I wasn't even asking for any grip thru there - so what's with that!?!?!"

The Mustang can carry some speed down that straight -- and you start your turn -- lift just a little to settle and then get back into it and the rear settles in and it hooks up and you know you're going to carry out on the exit and it feels SO GOOD and so hooked up. The Lotus was like driving on egg shells -- and you didn't want to move the wheel or upset the car in any way - or you just carried yourself into the DIRT on the exit!!

My "connection" tells me this shouldn't be --- and I'm confident in his knowledge and guidance so now I'm dying to get it right and get her back on the track to feel the difference.

[GregWeld]

This will bust you guys up ---- Little Tommy McCarthy (now 15) is possibly going to be running the LOTUS CUP next year -- in -- drum roll -- a 2 Eleven.

His Dad just emailed me and asked if I knew anybody that he could talk to… HA!! ME? I connected him with the Lotus Cup Unlimited Champ 2012 and 2010…

Apparently little Tommy was pretty smitten by the little go kart of a car. I love that!! And his parents are willing to do what it takes to advance young Tommy's career. Doesn't get much better than that in my book.


Why didn't I grow up with parents like that??? Damn it!

[GregWeld]

Dale --


Here's another short video of the last couple laps where I was following Tommy --- you'll notice that even at these really low speeds you can hear the junk tires squawking for traction.

It was actually HARD to stay behind these slower cars…. I had to really bite my lower lip and just go into cruise mode… and you can see how much difference the braking zone was for me than the cars in front. This is where NO WEIGHT really makes the difference! I'm sold on LOW weight!




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[DaleTx]

This will bust you guys up ---- Little Tommy McCarthy (now 15) is possibly going to be running the LOTUS CUP next year -- in -- drum roll -- a 2 Eleven.

Why didn't I grow up with parents like that??? Damn it!

Yeah… Tommy is a pretty lucky kid for sure. That will be a nice step up for him after running the Miata. My Dad bought me a Honda mini trail when I was a kid and I thought that was pretty cool, Lol.

It was actually HARD to stay behind these slower cars…. I had to really bite my lower lip and just go into cruise mode… and you can see how much difference the braking zone was for me than the cars in front. This is where NO WEIGHT really makes the difference! I'm sold on LOW weight!

Hopefully the new chassis set up and tires balance the car out a bit and make it more predictable. Once you get that car figured out it will be so much fun! I watch the good drivers in the Miata’s out at PIR and they don’t even let off the gas until the 300 to 400 foot marker coming off the main straight into the chicane. That would be a rush.

Have fun on the next run... look forward to more video from the next California trip.

:relax:

[intocarss]

Confidence in your equipment and setup leads to confidence in your abilities which allows you to relax which allows you to be smooth which allows you to be fast and enjoy the ride. :thumbsup:

That's spot on

[GregWeld]

Found this pretty old video of Chris Harris (who's reviews I like) driving a 2 Eleven…




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[GregWeld]

I found the perfect Lotus 2 Eleven video!!!!




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[Sieg]

Looks like there was some braking available in that spin?

[GregWeld]

Looks like there was some braking available in that spin?



A lot of racers either disconnect the ABS -- or they ditch the entire system for a dual master cylinder with a balance bar.



I have to say that I disconnected the ABS (you just disconnect the right front) and I drove up and down the street in front of my house. I couldn't make a stop of any kind without locking up at least one corner. I'll try the same thing once I pick it up with all the new shoes on it - and see what happens but if it's still locking up like it did - the ABS will be reconnected… and I'll take my chances on the spin.

[Sieg]

Sounds like a plan. The dual w/ balance bar would deliver that a'la naturale feed back that us motorbikers like. :D