New car/Project! 67 Firebird

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Almost a Camaro! Now I will see if this first gen stuff really is so cool everybody thinks! :D This is the most expensive car I have ever bought, always have had somewhat "cheaper" cars, but hey, you only live once! :D And this is my first car on a forum.

It is a 1967 Firebird, it has a lot of Nice parts, but still needs a lot of work, because it is basically a bit "shoddy" put together...

I dont know everything yet, just got it. Have a list but I must check it out myself to be sure.......

But in short it is supposed to be:

461cid Pontiac -stroked 400, Wenzler heads and roller cam. Put together by a Company, not selfbuilt, and dynoed.

TKO600 gearbox, Coleman driveshaft, Strange 12 bolt, 35 splines. Leaf springs.


Sweet short steering box. Heidts front A-arms and coil overs, small willwood brakes on all 4, 15" Wheels fits. And some other stuff, but this is the main stuff.

The clutch pedal is so hard that you must be a "strongman" to push it Down(and I do lift weights too....) Im gonna check how the pedal ratio is tomorrow, I think the hydraulic pump rod is just mounted wrong, hope so atleast..

And it seems to be Stock ball joints, so seems to be Stock front end geometry, so the tubular arms just looks good and dont do much good.. It even seems to be shimmed for LESS caster..

It is like this the whole way through the car, some homemade brackets for servo and alternator that dont align properly and throws belts and such, even though it is a lot of good and expensive parts it is basically put together sloppy and fast in many ways, most of this seems to be "free" repairs that will make this car a really fun car! :D :drive:

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Added a pic, gonna add more, since a thread is basically worthless without pics... He..He.. :D

And even though it looks clean it us super dirty and grimey, especially underneath, the past owner lived in a sort of "Dukes of Hazzard" Place, so it has probably been driven like Bo and Luke did too. He..He.. But it is supposed to be used though!

[Evaporate]

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Nice grab man! What is that color called?

[Spiffav8]

Gotta admit I love the color. Looks pretty clean.

Should be fun!

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Nice grab man! What is that color called?

Gotta admit I love the color. Looks pretty clean.

Should be fun!

Thanks, the color is Volvo Saffron pearl metallic.

I believe the Volvo color code is 435, but if it is exactly the same I do not know. Mixed the same etc.

The interior is not as Nice as the exterior.

[T_Raven]

Dang man I was expecting to see a typical 1st gen in need of body work when I started reading your post, then I got to the pic. That color looks great! Sounds like you have some nice mods planned. I'll be putting a stroked 400 in my 67 as well some point down the road. The cammed 455 will do for now while I work on body and suspension. Can't wait to see some progress on yours.

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Dang man I was expecting to see a typical 1st gen in need of body work when I started reading your post, then I got to the pic. That color looks great! Sounds like you have some nice mods planned. I'll be putting a stroked 400 in my 67 as well some point down the road. The cammed 455 will do for now while I work on body and suspension. Can't wait to see some progress on yours.

Thanks, it was painted 6 years ago, and looks good, but have some minor stuff here and there. Im gonna start easy before I throw too much Money on it, first fix all the small stuff and make everything work as it should be doing.

And I like that you gonna keep Your 67` Bird Pontiac Powered. :thumbsup:

[67rstbkt]

Another Firebird, Love it!!

[WSSix]

Looks great! The color choice was excellent. Do you think you'll keep the color?

[Ron Fox]

Nice Bird! Is it a gold color? My '69 is originally gold but I am looking for something different in a gold color.

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Thanks, it was painted 6 years ago, and looks good, but have some minor stuff here and there. Im gonna start easy before I throw too much Money on it, first fix all the small stuff and make everything work as it should be doing.

And I like that you gonna keep Your 67` Bird Pontiac Powered. :thumbsup:

That's how it always starts then before you know it it's completely apart with $60,000 in parts stacked up to go on lol.

I debated it a bit but decided it'd be cooler to keep a Pontiac engine in this one. I've got EFI for my 67 and a t56. I'm going to take it apart for body work this winter but when it's back together it'll have the EFI and 6 speed with the 455 that's in it until I can build a nice stroker with aluminum heads.

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Looks great! The color choice was excellent. Do you think you'll keep the color?

Yes, gonna keep it, if I will Paint it wich i doubt, it will probably be another color.

Nice Bird! Is it a gold color? My '69 is originally gold but I am looking for something different in a gold color.

It is Volvo Saffron color, a Pearl metallic color.

That's how it always starts then before you know it it's completely apart with $60,000 in parts stacked up to go on lol.

I debated it a bit but decided it'd be cooler to keep a Pontiac engine in this one. I've got EFI for my 67 and a t56. I'm going to take it apart for body work this winter but when it's back together it'll have the EFI and 6 speed with the 455 that's in it until I can build a nice stroker with aluminum heads.

He..He.. Hope not, but I think i must redo some stuff here and there, probably more than I think.... I already seen plenty of stuff..

It just looks more right With the right engine, it can look good With LS also, especially With an carbed intake. But the soul of the car is missing.

And since I wrench on New cars (VW) for a living, I am sick and tired of wires, can-bus and ECU`s... He..He..

Is it port runner EFI? Could you not convince yourself that the 455 already is a "stroker"? So you dont need that 400 build? :D Besides the mains, is it REALLY that much difference? Depends maybe somewhat on type of usage, HP Level and RPM maybe. But for "average" use? Maybe a bigger oil cooler is all that is the needed difference, beacause of the bearing speed? Just thinking out loud here.

It would be Nice to see the oil temp difference on same type of oil with different bearing sizes. I know how much difference just the oil type in same engine does by own experience, and that is A LOT.

[FETorino]

Yes, gonna keep it, if I will Paint it wich i doubt, it will probably be another color.



It is Volvo Saffron color, a Pearl metallic color.



He..He.. Hope not, but I think i must redo some stuff here and there, probably more than I think.... I already seen plenty of stuff..

It just looks more right With the right engine, it can look good With LS also, especially With an carbed intake. But the soul of the car is missing.

And since I wrench on New cars (VW) for a living, I am sick and tired of wires, can-bus and ECU`s... He..He..

Is it port runner EFI? Could you not convince yourself that the 455 already is a "stroker"? So you dont need that 400 build? :D Besides the mains, is it REALLY that much difference? Depends maybe somewhat on type of usage, HP Level and RPM maybe. But for "average" use? Maybe a bigger oil cooler is all that is the needed difference, beacause of the bearing speed? Just thinking out loud here.

It would be Nice to see the oil temp difference on same type of oil with different bearing sizes. I know how much difference just the oil type in same engine does by own experience, and that is A LOT.

Welcome

I'm with you on that. I have a soft spot for those early birds and the Poncho motors. :thumbsup: Beautiful cars, great small details with the emblems and side marker lights. Those Ponchos make tons of torque. A stock HEI and quadrajet and they are as dependable as EFI.

I'll really catch some heat for the graininess of this photo but here is my bird around 1989

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/3ce45a76-8452-4c2b-8734-ddd978b309d2_zps7b131d19.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/3ce45a76-8452-4c2b-8734-ddd978b309d2_zps7b131d19.jpg.html)

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Welcome

I'm with you on that. I have a soft spot for those early birds and the Poncho motors. :thumbsup: Beautiful cars, great small details with the emblems and side marker lights. Those Ponchos make tons of torque. A stock HEI and quadrajet and they are as dependable as EFI.

I'll really catch some heat for the graininess of this photo but here is my bird around 1989

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/3ce45a76-8452-4c2b-8734-ddd978b309d2_zps7b131d19.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/3ce45a76-8452-4c2b-8734-ddd978b309d2_zps7b131d19.jpg.html)

Yes, it is grainy :P But it looks cool, I Guess you do not have it anymore?

And is that a roll bar inside there? :D

[214Chevy]

Rob, grainy isn't the word for that pic. You straight up need a beat down for that. That looks like someone who needs trifocal glasses or coke bottle lenses. :poke: I almost went blind trying to look at that pic. :flashie:

[FETorino]

Yes, it is grainy :P But it looks cool, I Guess you do not have it anymore?

And is that a roll bar inside there? :D

Haven't had it for 20 years. Yes it had a 4 point chrome (yea I know, i was the 80s) roll bar in it.