Pro touring-Nascar themed Falcon

[CamaroBill]

I just picked this up from a good friend. It's a Falcon sprint with a Bob Lambeck built 342 Ford. Full forged rotating with Ross pistons, big roller, massaged Victor Jr heads. Rockland Standard T-56 and a complete custom built Scheidecker suspension, coil overs all the way around, wishbone rear suspension with a Nascar "quick change" rear end and 345 Hoosiers. This is my first Ford, and I gotta say this thing is kick in the ass. Revs like there's no tomorrow, handles like a slot car and is unique, more thumbs up than any other car I've had. Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics.
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa201/hotrodcopper/20130607_131618_zpsa76f4d64.jpg (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/hotrodcopper/media/20130607_131618_zpsa76f4d64.jpg.html)
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http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa201/hotrodcopper/20130607_131549_zps36ca016f.jpg (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/hotrodcopper/media/20130607_131549_zps36ca016f.jpg.html)
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http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa201/hotrodcopper/20130608_125816_zps796d9b7f.jpg (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/hotrodcopper/media/20130608_125816_zps796d9b7f.jpg.html)

[Rick D]

Ok Bill that's just bad azz!!! :king:

[Bryce]

very cool.

[Sieg]

I can see why you bought it, that's cool..........enjoy it!

[Flash68]

That thing is bad ass. Let's see some engine pics. :bigun2:

And some video would be nice. Yes please. :D

[CamaroBill]

Here's a quick engine shot. I am open to criticism, what do you guys think of the wing in the back???? I personally hated it at first, but it's growing on me. Is it too much? Too "fast and furious?"


http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa201/hotrodcopper/20130608_123809_zpsc7b0e5a8.jpg (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/hotrodcopper/media/20130608_123809_zpsc7b0e5a8.jpg.html)

[Sieg]

Motor looks appropriate to the package. The wing while radical on this body from a profile view, is probably functional for track usage and compliments what you see under the car from a rear view. Do the mounts simply unbolt? If so problem solved. I don't mind the look of the wing based on the one photo.

[Flash68]

Need more wing pics. :idea:

[intocarss]

Congrats Bill, I've seen that car somewhere. BTW who's this guy Lambeck??? ;)

[CamaroBill]

Need more wing pics. :idea:

Here's another wing shot.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa201/hotrodcopper/20130607_131454_zpsdb191b85.jpg (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/hotrodcopper/media/20130607_131454_zpsdb191b85.jpg.html)

[CamaroBill]

Congrats Bill, I've seen that car somewhere. BTW who's this guy Lambeck??? ;)

Some local engine builder Jerry...you probably never heard of him. :lol:

[intocarss]

JMOHO, I'd do a spoiler like what Dave (flash68) is doing on his Camaro. Either way, that car is Bad Ass!! Enjoy it and NO speeding!! ;)

[syborg tt]

I really like this car as for the wing. It looks like an after thought and for little money I think you could come up with something a little better.

[CamaroBill]

Thanks for the compliments and opinions...Jerry, I can't promise I won't speed a little, hopefully no speeding tickets :rules:

[instro84]

nice, i think i'd loose the wing thou

[Flash68]

Here's another wing shot.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa201/hotrodcopper/20130607_131454_zpsdb191b85.jpg (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/hotrodcopper/media/20130607_131454_zpsdb191b85.jpg.html)

I think it would look killer without a wing of any kind.

[Sieg]

OK, the wing doesn't look right in that last pic. If it was a lower profile along these lines http://aprperformance.com/images/zoom/LIYLYO/viewsize/DSC01937.JPG, maybe.

Retrofitting a factory Ford GT spoiler of some type might have potential........

[CamaroBill]

OK, the wing doesn't look right in that last pic. If it was a lower profile along these lines http://aprperformance.com/images/zoom/LIYLYO/viewsize/DSC01937.JPG, maybe.

Retrofitting a factory Ford GT spoiler of some type might have potential........

Yes, I agree on the lower profile....kinda thinking it may be a little too plain with nothing:headscratch:

[intocarss]

I think it would look killer without a wing of any kind.

I agree, but FalconBill needs some kind of rear down force at 180+ :drive: That's why I said a spoiler like yours Dave, plus it will keep the NASCAR theme

[fleetus macmullitz]

Yes, I agree on the lower profile....kinda thinking it may be a little too plain with nothing:headscratch:

I don't think the car will look to plain without the wing... with the red, the stance, the wheels, the exhaust etc.

You could always have some different style wings photoshopped.

[Flash68]

I agree, but FalconBill needs some kind of rear down force at 180+ :drive: That's why I said a spoiler like yours Dave, plus it will keep the NASCAR theme

Well ..... 180mph.... why didn't ya say so? :idea:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-COT-nascar-rear-spoiler-Richardson-Racing-Products-/360622437299

I don't think the car will look to plain without the wing... with the red, the stance, the wheels, the exhaust etc.



Yes I am guessing that exhaust sounds as good as it looks. :bigun2:

[CamaroBill]

I agree, but FalconBill needs some kind of rear down force at 180+ :drive: That's why I said a spoiler like yours Dave, plus it will keep the NASCAR theme

Hahaha...FalconBill, it was nothing but Camaros for years, but it's been a while since i've had a Camaro, maybe time for a new name....

[CamaroBill]

Well ..... 180mph.... why didn't ya say so? :idea:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-COT-nascar-rear-spoiler-Richardson-Racing-Products-/360622437299



Yes I am guessing that exhaust sounds as good as it looks. :bigun2:

Yes I like that spoiler, and yes the exhaust sounds pretty wicked. I will try and post a video.

[Rick D]

The motors look really nice is there. As for the wing, well when I read that you had a "wing" I had to go back to look :D I didn't even see it the first time around. Maybe a little out of place but just looks more racey?? Lets see it from another angle?

[Ketzer]

If the wing was a little lower and pushed back to the edge of the trunk...
Either way, that car is total badass and can easily back up the wing. Definitely no poser.


Jeff-

[Lowfast]

Very cool, thanks for the inspriation. It is great to see Falcons getting some love.

Needs a front splitter, I found the 70 Boss Mustang Repos fit very well.

http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/716/052513download355.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/052513download355.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/13/052513download354.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/052513download354.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/713/052513download353.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/052513download353.jpg/)

Agree on the wing, it needs something but not a fan of the "high profile" current look.

[GrabberGT]

The wing looks all wrong. It just doesnt fit the dimensions of the car. 1) It looks like it is too narrow for the car and 2) is the wing installed upside down and facing backwards? Theres just something off about it.

Killer car though. Cant wait to see some video of this thing.

[CamaroBill]

Very cool, thanks for the inspriation. It is great to see Falcons getting some love.

Needs a front splitter, I found the 70 Boss Mustang Repos fit very well.

http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/716/052513download355.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/052513download355.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/13/052513download354.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/052513download354.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/713/052513download353.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/052513download353.jpg/)

Agree on the wing, it needs something but not a fan of the "high profile" current look.

I love the look of that front spoiler, and I think I will either take the rear spoiler off (bunch of holes to fill) or find something that is lower, wider and set further back. You guys are awesome and I really appreciate the creative criticism.

[Lowfast]

Here is a link to the front spoiler I picked up. Great price, fast shipping and the quality was very nice.

http://www.laurelmountainmustang.com/products/1970-mustang-front-spoiler

[CamaroBill]

Did you have to modify it a lot to make it work?

[Lowfast]

Did you have to modify it a lot to make it work?

A bit of a loaded question. No, I did not have to modify the spoiler itself at all, however as you can see I am not running the standard Falcon front bumper, it is a very chopped up 65 mustang bumper/valance. I had to drill a few extra holes and fab a couple of right angle brakets for the ends but all in all it was very easy to get it to fit. It is very solidly mounted.

I figured for $65 it was worth the risk and even if I screwed one up on the test fit, once I had it perfected I could buy another. Truthfully I am supprised how easily I was able to mount it up. It also fits the Falcon width perfect because (fun fact for the day) the Falcon front ends were wider than the 65 Mustangs and closer in width to the 70.

[CamaroBill]

Thanks, sounds like I can make it work. Funny that you say my question was "loaded".......my friends always accuse me of posing loaded questions...lol.

[Twoblackmarks...]

Really cool car, a older "NASCAR type" decklid wing would probably look a bit more historical correct, also other steering Wheel.

But it is a really cool car anyway. :) It probably is fast too! I love classic race car look.

[CamaroBill]

Going to cut the riser down and see how it looks mounted about 3 inches lower and little a little further back. I figured I have nothing to lose. If it still doesn't look right then it's getting $hit canned.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa201/hotrodcopper/20130618_212902_LLS_zps3db69057.jpg (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/hotrodcopper/media/20130618_212902_LLS_zps3db69057.jpg.html)

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[Sieg]

Maybe make the test mounts out of 1/4" plywood or? instead of modifying the original ones thus killing resale?

Do you know who makes that wing? The tuner crowd might pay good money for it. Those APR wings are all priced over $1,100.

[CamaroBill]

Maybe make the test mounts out of 1/4" plywood or? instead of modifying the original ones thus killing resale?

Do you know who makes that wing? The tuner crowd might pay good money for it. Those APR wings are all priced over $1,100.

Yeah good point... I was taking the easy (lazy) way out. Not sure who makes I cant find a name on it.

[intocarss]

How about this

[CamaroBill]

How about this

Well Jerry.....I think that's a tad bit taller than the one I have...tad bit.

[tubbed69]

thats a cool car with or without wing

[intocarss]

Well Jerry.....I think that's a tad bit taller than the one I have...tad bit.

I WAS TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE TRANSFORMATION ;)

:G-Dub:

[CamaroBill]

I WAS TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE TRANSFORMATION ;)

:G-Dub:

Sounds good, when do you want to start?

[intocarss]

Sounds good, when do you want to start? ANYTIME :hello:

[WSSix]

Love the car! I think there's definitely room for improvement with the wing. At the same time, I think no wing would look good too. Maybe get with someone that can photoshop or maybe get with Carter Hickman, Jason Rushforth, or whomever you like and get a rendering done. You could take a look at other changes too such as a front spoiler like Bryce mentioned and maybe even wheel changes if you care to go that far. They are also designers and not just 3D modeling wizards so I bet they could have some good suggestions.

[CamaroBill]

Thanks Trey...all good suggestions.

[Payton King]

I am digging it. Everyone is giving opinions, so here is mine. Taller wider wing as was previously posted or a NASCAR style adjustable spoiler.

[coolwelder62]

It's an awesome car.I think a spoiler more like the nascar's ran in 80's would be better suited for this BA Falcon.

[CamaroBill]

The wing looks all wrong. It just doesnt fit the dimensions of the car. 1) It looks like it is too narrow for the car and 2) is the wing installed upside down and facing backwards? Theres just something off about it.

Killer car though. Cant wait to see some video of this thing.

Great eye Chris,, really started to look at it after your post, and yes it was mounted wrong. Not upside down, but backwards. I had my buddy machine the risiers and reposition the holes. I will take some pictures as soon as i get it mounted, but its going to be about 3 inches lower and set back a little bit.

[Track Junky]

Man this car is awesome. The wing throws it off a bit but only because of where it sits on the car and its shape. I think something a little flatter, set back a bit, lowered a bit, and powder coated black would work.

[Flash68]

How bout something like this? Maybe even a little taller.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/a20792a127222f55d4f67_m_zpse894c2f0.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/a20792a127222f55d4f67_m_zpse894c2f0.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/a20792a127222f6fb0a8ce_m_zps666fcbd6.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/a20792a127222f6fb0a8ce_m_zps666fcbd6.jpg.html)

[CamaroBill]

How bout something like this? Maybe even a little taller.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/a20792a127222f55d4f67_m_zpse894c2f0.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/a20792a127222f55d4f67_m_zpse894c2f0.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/a20792a127222f6fb0a8ce_m_zps666fcbd6.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/a20792a127222f6fb0a8ce_m_zps666fcbd6.jpg.html)

I do like that Flash, I also found this 65 Falcon, looks very similar, it doesn't look like it has a spoiler of any kind.:)

[Flash68]

That 65 ^^^^^ looks incredible sans spoiler.

[syborg tt]

This car should give you some good idea's

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/AL7319/ForPly%20--%201964%20Plymouth%20Belvedere/IMG_2285.jpg

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/AL7319/ForPly%20--%201964%20Plymouth%20Belvedere/IMG_2280.jpg

here is the single Post

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showpost.php4?p=444212&postcount=204

[CamaroBill]

[QUOTE=syborg tt;488735]This car should give you some good idea's



http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/AL7319/ForPly%20--%201964%20Plymouth%20Belvedere/IMG_2280.jpg

:idea: :idea: That spoiler is bitchin!

[Flash68]

Winner. :thumbsup:

[syborg tt]

Winner. :thumbsup:

You were suppose to Say

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.

[Flash68]

You were suppose to Say

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.

I like to let others post the Captain Obvious answers. :mock:

[intocarss]

That 65 ^^^^^ looks incredible sans spoiler.

I agree with Dave!! And Bill, you've always had really great taste in cars and their looks..... To be honest, that spoiler that came on your new ride just don't cut it JMOHO:underchair:

[Flash68]

Well... what did you decide on the wing deal? :headspin:

[GregWeld]

I do like that Flash, I also found this 65 Falcon, looks very similar, it doesn't look like it has a spoiler of any kind.:)





The Orange Vette in the background is a buddy of mine - Bruce Leven. That is one bad ass Vette.... He used to race 962's so the Vette is tame in comparison.

Bill -- Love the Falcon -- and I'll just keep my mouth shut on the "wing thing".

[Revved]

Love the car but I'm also a +1 on ditching the spoiler! Just doesn't work with the lines of the car. I love the low pro fabbed spoiler on the top of this page...it would look great... or something like a fabbed up Pro-Stock style spoiler perhaps?

[intocarss]

Hey NovaFalconBill....clean out your PM box!!

[CamaroBill]

Inbox cleared....

Spoiler update...lopped about 3" off the risers and flipped it so its facing the right way. Looks about 3% better (lol), its going to have to come off. Unfortunately fabricators aren't cheap. .. neither are paint guys (fill holes and paint trunk lid)...so it will have to do for now.

Hey NovaFalconBill....clean out your PM box!!

[Bryce]

Inbox cleared....

Spoiler update...lopped about 3" off the risers and flipped it so its facing the right way. Looks about 3% better (lol), its going to have to come off. Unfortunately fabricators aren't cheap. .. neither are paint guys (fill holes and paint trunk lid)...so it will have to do for now.

Buy a fiberglass trunk lid and add a fiberglass spoiler on the trailing edge then paint.... By the way I love the falcon.

[Flash68]

Inbox cleared....

Spoiler update...lopped about 3" off the risers and flipped it so its facing the right way. Looks about 3% better (lol), its going to have to come off. Unfortunately fabricators aren't cheap. .. neither are paint guys (fill holes and paint trunk lid)...so it will have to do for now.

Come on on Bill let's see it! :stirthepot:

[intocarss]

Come on on Bill let's see it! :stirthepot: Don't you rush him!!!:warning:

[Sieg]

Come on on Bill let's see it! :stirthepot:

:bitchslap: He's waaay ahead of another Ford project we know.

:underchair:

[jarhead]

Man this car is nice, not enough Fords on here.

I liked the idea of a fiberglass trunk and molding one in. I owned a 64 Sprint in High School, and a 65 Futura a few years later that I converted to V8. I always wondered what a spoiler would look like. Really like the one on the RS Cuda.

Looks like you are moving towards what you like and thats what matters in this hobby. Lots of good ideas so far.

Joe