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Rick D
06-16-2013, 07:03 AM
Ok so here's the build of what will always be know as Project Pumpkin :peepwall:
The car is a mostly solid 1973 Camaro, both front fenders lowers and three small spots in the trunk are the only rust on the car. Well that is until I strip it :confused59:
For those that don't know and just to :poke: the rest of the 2nd gen owners out there. This car would have been the first 2nd gen built by Mark Steilow sorry but that's not goning to happen now :snapout:
This is not a full on build take it apart and hope to finish it some day!! Nope this will be worked in stages, also this is being built on a budget, so not a lot of fancy new parts going in here.
Ok so here's the quick plan, some will change as I get into it I'm sure.
I will start with the drive train. It has a GM crate 350 with a 350 trans. For now the engine is going to be used, upgraded but still going with a SBC :drowninga:
The trans will be changed to a manual, trying to find a T56 6spd but we'll see?? Second round will be a ls2 6spd (already have a deal working on that).
Plans for the engine are new gaskets, fresh paint, new cam, headers, carb, and if I can find a deal on a pair of used aluminum heads that would be cool.
Rear end will get a freshing, posi, and maybe a gear change.
I will paint it and NOT orange maybe silver?? Cowl hood but with MAJOR work done to it as I hate how it looks like a ramp for a water skier :lmao: more on that later.
Suspension is still open, ideas? I'm not going to do anything with the front yet as I want to change out the whole sub frame but not sure when that will happen. DSE solid body bushings and DSE frame connectors. Not sure if it will get mini tubed or not as then the bigger wheels and more money come it play. Maybe phase 2 :bitchslap:
Rear will stay leafs for now but will change it to Ride Tech I think??
Interior will be mostly stock but freshened up new carpet and seats. Still thinking about seats suggestions??
The biggest part is the wheels, I really want to start there because as you all know shells can make or break how a car looks. I've got a few ideas so we'll see how that goes? Again suggestions?? Also looking at something used (budget budget budget).
So here's the starting point with the pictures.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/682711973c9eed4e6d437794eaa47a2d_zps74243b0c.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/20672ea93280dbbfeb75a1ae419c7b11_zps2a6ecb95.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/6b7d25d502ec5b5e1bf6f2cc90af5758_zps4b696953.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/c44c6fe616028f25c58b9eb2fd5aa608_zps3d288fff.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/4f6bbcd842c61b444e999e026b632334_zps4928e412.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/08603c74a72154e6b552360e39b6d836_zps4cf67585.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/7dabeb9aec682139ba21c9b7546468a9_zpse7bc5901.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/03bbac3e1ab3f1b410b28cd172cb264d_zps1f8301ea.jpg
strtcar
06-16-2013, 07:15 AM
Car would look great silver with some black stripes.
Rick D
06-16-2013, 07:34 AM
Car would look great silver with some black stripes.
That's my thinking as well but not sure on the strips??
Rick D
06-16-2013, 07:37 AM
Me really likey this, sorry SW I stole it from your thread!
tubbed69
06-16-2013, 07:48 AM
Rick looks like a great solid car to start with,silver sure is one of my favorites on these,also either red or black is nice,good luck.
jr2226
06-16-2013, 08:21 AM
Congrats on getting the camaro its a great feeling. I know how I felt the night before getting mine and it was a basket case. Yours looks to be a really nice camaro. Can't wait to see this build. Good luck.
garickman
06-16-2013, 08:23 AM
Nice start Rick! Can't wait to see this come together.
Track Junky
06-16-2013, 09:22 AM
Car looks great Rick. I know what its like trying to build on a budjet. Try and get what you want the first time around or you will be spending twice. Research what you want, put a plan down on paper, and then start collecting parts.
pokey64
06-16-2013, 09:37 AM
Congrats on the new project Rick! I'm looking forward to following along.
Ron in SoCal
06-16-2013, 09:41 AM
Congrats Rick! Car looks great and I know pumkin's in great hands. Tell the owner project names can come back to haunt you, lol.
Car looks great Rick. I know what its like trying to build on a budjet. Try and get what you want the first time around or you will be spending twice. Research what you want, put a plan down on paper, and then start collecting parts.
I agree w Gae. Make a plan and budget, get the car handling and stopping first. Marty has a pretty good blueprint IMO. Engine upgrades and prettiness last.
Good luck man. I know you've been dying to wheel a car for a long time so enjoy the moment :thumbsup:
coolwelder62
06-16-2013, 10:57 AM
Rick,where on earth did you find such a nice 2nd Gen.You must have looked high and low for something this perfect.LOL!!!!
Rick,where on earth did you find such a nice 2nd Gen.You must have looked high and low for something this perfect.
Ha! Stielow dropped it in his lap! :D
waynieZ
06-16-2013, 12:16 PM
I like it! Great score.
Flash68
06-16-2013, 12:44 PM
Atta boy Rick. Congrats man. Never a bad thing buying a car from the King.
:king:
FETorino
06-16-2013, 01:33 PM
This is not a full on build take it apart and hope to finish it some day!! Nope this will be worked in stages, also this is being built on a budget, so not a lot of fancy new parts going in here.
Rick
Stick to your statement and build it modular. Don't take it off the road for more than a week at a time unless you suddenly are willing to spend :G-Dub:
Take a look at Siegs car. He has a nice ride that he has kept on the road (most of the time) and has made some key upgrades without breaking the bank or stalling his progress. :thumbsup:
I can't argue with jumping on a 6 speed conversion. I would jump on that right off.
The car is a 20 footer or better so even though you can do paint leave it alone until you are done slinging big parts into and out of it. Just get rid of those dam bumperettes.
Take Gae's advice and put together a budgeted plan. Start with the $$ you are willing to spend and prioritize your wants based on what fits within that number.
Then lay in wait for a bit. If you buy good second hand stuff you can resale it down the road if you step it up and it won't really cost you. Sure you may want new brakes first but if seats show up at a great price buy them first.
When you save some $$ from the budgeted number by scoring a good deal then you can reallocate that $$ to another upgrade on your project plan.
Bottom line is be disciplined about it. :bitchslap: You just got out of one stalled project.
Wheels. For the first round wait for somebody who just bought a complete sub and tubbed their car to sell their "small wheels". I see nice looking wheel sets out there all the time. If you buy smart you can sell them if your project escalates. Bottom line JMO is don't buy them new because they are a big expense and their specs are dictated by so many pieces of the build you haven't settled on.
For you Camaro guys there are so many suspension options it make me dizzy. I don't pay that much attention to all the details of them for obvious reasons, are any of them modular? Can you do spindles and arms now with the stock sub and steering and later go full sub and rack? That way you can ease into it and get good brakes, that you can keep with future mods, on the car sooner than later. Doesn't the Ride Tech or Speedtech route allow you to do this?
Leave the stock rear diff alone for now. I'd target a rear suspension upgrade first. The front of a 2nd gen isn't terrible so look for a good deal to show itself for the rear. Save that $$ you want to dump on that 10 or 12 bolt to put it towards a nine inch.
Same with that motor. Clean it up and beat the snot out of it don't drop $$ into it.
You asked for opinions so you got mine.
BTW congratulations Charley Brown on finding the "great pumpkin" I hope your driving it today.
:cheers:
Good advice Rob :thumbsup:
Rickster, get used to that punkin color buddy, it will serve you well through the many priority phases of the project. The timing of this and who it's from is pretty special IMO. Enjoy the journey. Be patient and don't bite off more than you can comfortably chew. Keep it fiscally under control so it's always an enjoyable hobby with positive thoughts and dreams for the future. I've seen too many hobby/project cars compromise finances and relationships and that simply ruins everything. Like Rob said......the more they're running the more you get to enjoy them.......no matter the performance level.
Let the planning and dreaming begin!
Rick D
06-16-2013, 02:27 PM
Thanks guys!
Rob and Seig and that guy that owes me dinner :buttkick: :hello: J/K Ron
You guys are giving some very good advise there and it is much appreciated! Yes the plan is to keep it moving and driving car as much as possible.
As for pumpkin color sorry its already in primer!! :idea: :hello:
J/K :lol: but as I bought the best car I could get for my budget, I only can start with the things that won't cost me to much money.
First on the list is a manual trans, and wheels and tires. Then it's up to what kind of deals come around. Be leave me Rob I ain't buying no NEW wheels. Marty already made me an offer I may not be able to pass up. So next is the trans which I'm looking for now, I may just get a 4sp for now as I really don't want to buy to many parts more then once. The ride height is very nice (40 year old suspension) so maybe a god set of shocks and call it a day.
Brakes will be some kind of OEM stuff C6 and brackets from Tobin at Kore.
So that leaves me to the body and paint, remember I don't have to take the car anywhere to get it painted! And I can knock out an awesome jobs fairly quick, and paint well it doesn't cost me anything so this will most likely get done first thing.
Anyway off to sand the paint off of my car :hello:
T56 Mag close ratio..........nothing else! My trans is just starting to break in and it is such a treat, you need to drive it to appreciate it. It's your right hand's connection to your drivetrain...........and it feels REAL GOOD! :D
Big brakes and wheels first - I say this for a couple reasons 1) I bought wheels first, then installed the T56. 2) The speeds you can generate with the T56 almost created a very bad situation for me as I completely exceeded the limits of the stock front disks with 245/40/18 200TW front tires and came close to totaling the car. I called Tobin at Kore3 the next morning and ordered brakes.
The big aggressive manual brakes and T56 are the driving highlights of my car......for me. :D
Having just the right exhaust note even if you're not putting 550hp to the wheels doesn't hurt your image either. :lol:
intocarss
06-16-2013, 05:02 PM
Congrats Rick!!!! Wish I'd seen that car 2 years ago LOLOLOL
73CPCAMARO
06-16-2013, 05:24 PM
Nice pick up! It looks like a very solid car to start with. I am looking forward to watching the progress you make with this car.
Brian
protour73
06-16-2013, 06:24 PM
Great score...... I'm glad I talked you into it!!!
It's similar to my first '73, except mine was a 3 speed with no spoilers in Light Copper.
Let the spending begin!!! :G-Dub:
Rick D
06-16-2013, 06:42 PM
Great score...... I'm glad I talked you into it!!!
It's similar to my first '73, except mine was a 3 speed with no spoilers in Light Copper.
Let the spending begin!!! :G-Dub:
Yeah you had me on the phone for hours talking me into it:hairpullout:
And you of all people know that the spending has started and finished already!!
Oh and this one is cleaner then yours!! Lol
214Chevy
06-16-2013, 06:57 PM
Rick, great score on the 2nd gen. I fully understand building the car on a budget, but just make sure the car gets its due justice. It's a certain amount of respect a car like deserves. Now, with that being said...let's go!! :Tomcat:
Rick D
06-16-2013, 08:24 PM
Rick, great score on the 2nd gen. I fully understand building the car on a budget, but just make sure the car gets its due justice. It's a certain amount of respect a car like deserves. Now, with that being said...let's go!! :Tomcat:
Thanks Marcus! Don't worry it will be a great car that's for sure.
syborg tt
06-17-2013, 09:39 PM
I think this post should be a Sticky in Project Threads.
Rick
Stick to your statement and build it modular. Don't take it off the road for more than a week at a time unless you suddenly are willing to spend :G-Dub:
Take a look at Siegs car. He has a nice ride that he has kept on the road (most of the time) and has made some key upgrades without breaking the bank or stalling his progress. :thumbsup:
I can't argue with jumping on a 6 speed conversion. I would jump on that right off.
The car is a 20 footer or better so even though you can do paint leave it alone until you are done slinging big parts into and out of it. Just get rid of those dam bumperettes.
Take Gae's advice and put together a budgeted plan. Start with the $$ you are willing to spend and prioritize your wants based on what fits within that number.
Then lay in wait for a bit. If you buy good second hand stuff you can resale it down the road if you step it up and it won't really cost you. Sure you may want new brakes first but if seats show up at a great price buy them first.
When you save some $$ from the budgeted number by scoring a good deal then you can reallocate that $$ to another upgrade on your project plan.
Bottom line is be disciplined about it. :bitchslap: You just got out of one stalled project.
Wheels. For the first round wait for somebody who just bought a complete sub and tubbed their car to sell their "small wheels". I see nice looking wheel sets out there all the time. If you buy smart you can sell them if your project escalates. Bottom line JMO is don't buy them new because they are a big expense and their specs are dictated by so many pieces of the build you haven't settled on.
For you Camaro guys there are so many suspension options it make me dizzy. I don't pay that much attention to all the details of them for obvious reasons, are any of them modular? Can you do spindles and arms now with the stock sub and steering and later go full sub and rack? That way you can ease into it and get good brakes, that you can keep with future mods, on the car sooner than later. Doesn't the Ride Tech or Speedtech route allow you to do this?
Leave the stock rear diff alone for now. I'd target a rear suspension upgrade first. The front of a 2nd gen isn't terrible so look for a good deal to show itself for the rear. Save that $$ you want to dump on that 10 or 12 bolt to put it towards a nine inch.
Same with that motor. Clean it up and beat the snot out of it don't drop $$ into it.
You asked for opinions so you got mine.
BTW congratulations Charley Brown on finding the "great pumpkin" I hope your driving it today.
:cheers:
Zspoiler
06-17-2013, 10:47 PM
It looks like it has a decent body so I wouldnt`t paint it till last. If it has a 8.5 10 bolt just freshen it up and add a "posi" . I have supercharged small block /Super T-10 combination in front of mine with just a couple of upgrades. A heavier duty carrier and 31 spline axels. On the suspension you can go a basic as using a Z-28 Suspension package to using a Vette Brakes C-4 Corvette suspension package like I did. There is quite a variety of both engine and suspension package out there .It depends on you and your check book.
Flash68
06-18-2013, 12:00 AM
I think this post should be a Sticky in Project Threads.
Like Rob needs a bigger head... :headscratch:
Like Rob needs a bigger head... :headscratch:
Least he's got the car to pack it.............:underchair:
Vince@Meanstreets
06-18-2013, 12:27 AM
It looks like it has a decent body so I wouldnt`t paint it till last. If it has a 8.5 10 bolt just freshen it up and add a "posi" . I have supercharged small block /Super T-10 combination in front of mine with just a couple of upgrades. A heavier duty carrier and 31 spline axels. On the suspension you can go a basic as using a Z-28 Suspension package to using a Vette Brakes C-4 Corvette suspension package like I did. There is quite a variety of both engine and suspension package out there .It depends on you and your check book.
yep, keep it simple. These 2nd gens already have a great base. They respond well to good shocks, sway bars and stiff bushings on stock arms. The only reason I would use a tubular arm is to get that tire away from the wheel housing when adding caster. That would be a good lower with a stock upper arm and Del-alum bushings. The Hotchkis lower moves the lower ball joint forward for increased caster.
Nothing wrong with the spindles, Custom works likes to add a tall upper ball joint for increased camber gain so you can run a low static number.
Adding big brakes is easy but that comes with 18's.
Chat Keith up a bit when you are ordering your CF bumperetts....if you get rid of your bumper guards don't toss them. Put em up on ebay. Set of 4 might just pay for some of your build. Keith also has a nice subframe connector and front frame support kits too.
Flash68
06-18-2013, 12:35 AM
Least he's got the car to pack it.............:underchair:
:lol: :RunninDog:
MX145
06-18-2013, 12:43 AM
I like too. That car is sick in silver. 2nd gens are very cool. You have a nice ride Rick!
Me really likey this, sorry SW I stole it from your thread!
Rick D
06-18-2013, 05:49 AM
It looks like it has a decent body so I wouldnt`t paint it till last. If it has a 8.5 10 bolt just freshen it up and add a "posi" . I have supercharged small block /Super T-10 combination in front of mine with just a couple of upgrades. A heavier duty carrier and 31 spline axels. On the suspension you can go a basic as using a Z-28 Suspension package to using a Vette Brakes C-4 Corvette suspension package like I did. There is quite a variety of both engine and suspension package out there .It depends on you and your check book.
The body is decent as in very little rust but all dinged up and I hate the color :lol:! As for the brakes the plan is a set of OE C6 calipers front and rear. Suspension will be left mostly stock for now with a shock upgrade, and maybe a better set of sway bars. Wheels will be 18 front and back. As for engine it's got a crate 350 so that will stay for now as it runs nice and strong.
yep, keep it simple. These 2nd gens already have a great base. They respond well to good shocks, sway bars and stiff bushings on stock arms. The only reason I would use a tubular arm is to get that tire away from the wheel housing when adding caster. That would be a good lower with a stock upper arm and Del-alum bushings. The Hotchkis lower moves the lower ball joint forward for increased caster.
Nothing wrong with the spindles, Custom works likes to add a tall upper ball joint for increased camber gain so you can run a low static number.
Adding big brakes is easy but that comes with 18's.
Chat Keith up a bit when you are ordering your CF bumperetts....if you get rid of your bumper guards don't toss them. Put em up on ebay. Set of 4 might just pay for some of your build. Keith also has a nice subframe connector and front frame support kits too.
Yeah Vince I don't plan on changing to much of the stock suspension as of now, just better shocks and maybe sway bars. The plan is to get an aftermarket sub frame later down the road and I switch to the LS motor. I plan to put in DSE subframe connectors??? And solid body bushings?
Thanks guys!!!
Rick D
06-18-2013, 06:27 AM
Ok so I jumped in last night and started to move things along!! :headspin:
Looking these pictures you will see why I bought this car! I found two rust spots under the carpet :bang: but I think you will all agree that for a 40 year old car it's not to bad??
First I removed 55lbs of old nasty carpet and factory sound deadener. And this is what was left.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/DSC_0970_zps29df02ae.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/DSC_0967_zpsb8a1ecb1.jpg
Driver side under the rear seat has a couple of holes.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/DSC_0966_zpsa6e8ef1a.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/DSC_0971_zps0cfde202.jpg
Driver side front no holes just some scale
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/DSC_0985_zps5a15f16b.jpg
Passenger side front will require a replacement floor pan, it's the worst part of the floors.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/DSC_0986_zpsab3bb807.jpg
syborg tt
06-18-2013, 08:03 AM
That looks very nice.
INTMD8
06-18-2013, 09:42 AM
Looks like a great car! I love 70-73's. Are you going to leave the nose or do a split bumper conversion?
CornHusker4Life
06-18-2013, 10:37 AM
Rick,
I know you said about possibly painting it silver. Maybe a little inspiration...
My 73 camaro
http://s131.photobucket.com/user/jmcalevy/media/IMG950799_zpsaee3a4b7.jpg.html#/user/jmcalevy/media/IMG950799_zpsaee3a4b7.jpg.html?&_suid=137157329090905976359341433455
71RS/SS396
06-18-2013, 11:11 AM
Welcome to the 2nd gen brotherhood Rick! Enjoy your new project!
Vince@Meanstreets
06-18-2013, 11:18 AM
The body is decent as in very little rust but all dinged up and I hate the color :lol:! As for the brakes the plan is a set of OE C6 calipers front and rear. Suspension will be left mostly stock for now with a shock upgrade, and maybe a better set of sway bars. Wheels will be 18 front and back. As for engine it's got a crate 350 so that will stay for now as it runs nice and strong.
Yeah Vince I don't plan on changing to much of the stock suspension as of now, just better shocks and maybe sway bars. The plan is to get an aftermarket sub frame later down the road and I switch to the LS motor. I plan to put in DSE subframe connectors??? And solid body bushings?
Thanks guys!!!
yep, solid bushings with frame connectors. The DSE units are nice.
Zspoiler
06-18-2013, 11:47 AM
Since you have some rust on the floor pans .I would replace those sections.as needed.Then paint the floor with bed liner.It seals and quiets the interior at the same time.
RussMurco
06-18-2013, 03:28 PM
So YOU'RE the one who stole Mark from the 2nd-gen guys!!! :warning:
Looks like a great car to start with and I like that you're skipping the belly-button-cowl-hood! I've always thought a modified 1970 Chevelle cowl induction would work well with the lines of a 2nd gen Camaro.
Whatever you go with I'll be watching!
So YOU'RE the one who stole Mark from the 2nd-gen guys!!! :warning:
Interesting angle........man does he have big shoes to fill or what?!
Rick D
06-18-2013, 04:09 PM
So YOU'RE the one who stole Mark from the 2nd-gen guys!!! :warning:
Yeah well Mark put it up for sale, so he left the 2nd gen guys on his own!!!! :poke:
Looks like a great car to start with and I like that you're skipping the belly-button-cowl-hood! I've always thought a modified 1970 Chevelle cowl induction would work well with the lines of a 2nd gen Camaro.
Whatever you go with I'll be watching!
Not sure yet when I'll get to the hood but it won't look like any of the other 2nd gen cowl hoods out there that's for sure :superhack:
Interesting angle........man does he have big shoes to fill or what?!
Um NO that's not going to happen I don't have the :G-Dub: to come even close to buying the parts he uses let alone build like he does! :poke:
Um NO that's not going to happen I don't have the :G-Dub: to come even close to buying the parts he uses let alone build like he does! :poke:
Um......I know EXACTLY how you feel! :thumbsup:
Rick I better see you driving this one! I don't want you to be one of those guys that takes forever to finish a project!:_paranoid
ccracin
06-19-2013, 07:25 AM
Rick I better see you driving this one! I don't want you to be one of those guys that takes forever to finish a project!:_paranoid
Hey now. some of us resemble that remark! :gitrdun:
Can't wait to see the transformation Rick!
syborg tt
06-19-2013, 07:26 AM
Rick I better see you driving this one! I don't want you to be one of those guys that takes forever to finish a project!:_paranoid
okay that's a good one.
okay that's a good one.
You be quit!!:hitaxeonthehead:
Rick D
06-19-2013, 03:21 PM
Rick I better see you driving this one! I don't want you to be one of those guys that takes forever to finish a project!:_paranoid
Yeah yeah yeah, don't worry it's only in a few pieces right now :rolleyes:! I'm going to fix the few rust issues it has first then move on to some up grades! Those should all be finished by next weekend. Just picked up the floor pans today!
Hey now. some of us resemble that remark! :gitrdun:
Can't wait to see the transformation Rick!
Yup Chad I was in that group for a long time, I cut bate and moved on. That's why I bought this car!
okay that's a good one.
Wow kettle meet black pot!! :hello:
You be quit!!:hitaxeonthehead:
Yeah right :twak:
Rick D
06-19-2013, 03:22 PM
Oh wait I need to be nice to Marty, he has lots of parts that I want :welcome3: :underchair:
protour73
06-19-2013, 07:56 PM
Oh wait I need to be nice to Marty, he has lots of parts that I want :welcome3: :underchair:Yes he does......I know a great little Mexican joint he likes to have lunch at!! :peepwall:
syborg tt
06-20-2013, 07:12 AM
Yes he does......I know a great little Mexican joint he likes to have lunch at!! :peepwall:
I free for Dinner how does 5pm sound
Rick D
06-20-2013, 07:14 AM
I free for Dinner how does 5pm sound
Cool Scotts buying dinner :poke: great where at??
syborg tt
06-20-2013, 08:45 AM
Cool Scotts buying dinner :poke: great where at??
It's on the north Side of the street just across from the Delta Sonic Car Wash.
Los Burritos Tapatios
1410 Ogden Ave
Downers Grove
Rick D
06-20-2013, 06:57 PM
So first a little eye candy :G-Dub: when he said it was new he meant new and had never even opened the box from Ricks :thumbsup:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/f8d40ec3259ee750ff8eaf0d00f63930_zps0070fe81.jpg
Ron in SoCal
06-20-2013, 07:13 PM
Sweet :thumbsup:
Rick D
06-20-2013, 08:08 PM
Sweet :thumbsup:
Yeah well I owe you on this one!! :thumbsup:
Rick D
06-20-2013, 08:13 PM
Ok so moving right along. Jumped right in and picked up the passenger side floor pan yesterday and tonight here we are.
Outlined for the cut
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/ed8a10c58ae687d00fff43825ac9fc6e_zpsa26154a6.jpg
Rust gone
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/90ff2e967b8e0b7650c3650b9bc1eb85_zpsadc3542f.jpg
New piece starting to go in!
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/28b18cd6752d6eb398ac2181ef4ed0b8_zpsa64fc705.jpg
FETorino
06-20-2013, 10:08 PM
Rick
Welcome back to the "it will run someday" club :poke:
:cheers:
Rick D
06-20-2013, 10:14 PM
Rick
Welcome back to the "it will run someday" club :poke:
:cheers:
Hey it still runs :mock: nope not going there!!! :knokwood: :knokwood: :knokwood: :knokwood: :knokwood:
Must resist :superhack: must resist :G-Dub:
Ron in SoCal
06-20-2013, 11:12 PM
Rick
Welcome back to the "it will run someday" club :poke:
:cheers:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/ichabodpain/Peanuts-CharlieBrown1_____PM.jpg (http://s207.photobucket.com/user/ichabodpain/media/Peanuts-CharlieBrown1_____PM.jpg.html)
Flash68
06-21-2013, 12:49 AM
Rick
Welcome back to the "it will run someday" club :poke:
:cheers:
It just leaves more time for talking some trash on 5 year build threads like that Torino thingamabob....
strtcar
06-21-2013, 01:05 PM
Looking good Rick.
protour73
06-22-2013, 07:45 AM
Hey Pumpkin Boy, where's the damn pics of those new wheels?? :poke: :stirthepot: :warning: :snapout:
Rick D
06-22-2013, 10:12 AM
:getout: :whistling: I don't what you are talking about. :lostmarbles:
:getout: :whistling: I don't what you are talking about. :lostmarbles:
Just post a pick of the back side. :D
protour73
06-22-2013, 01:53 PM
Just post a pick of the back side of the wheels. :DFixed it for you Sieg!!
Vince@Meanstreets
06-22-2013, 03:53 PM
I knew he was holding out on us
FETorino
06-25-2013, 08:09 AM
:wow: This build was abandoned quick. Sorry to see the project stall. :poke:
:cheers:
Rick D
06-25-2013, 09:21 AM
:wow: This build was abandoned quick. Sorry to see the project stall. :poke:
:cheers:
No actually I have been working on it and not posting about it :secret:
I will update this weekend :headspin:
strtcar
06-25-2013, 09:26 AM
No actually I have been working on it and not posting about it :secret:
I will update this weekend :headspin:
Twin turbo LSX started up yet :)
Rick D
06-25-2013, 08:30 PM
Twin turbo LSX started up yet :)
Yeah I wish :stirthepot:
FETorino
06-25-2013, 09:04 PM
Yeah I wish :stirthepot:
Make us all proud and put a Man's motor in there. A solid lifter ZL1 or maybe even better an SB2....:bitchslap:
:cheers:
Flash68
06-26-2013, 01:01 AM
Make us all proud and put a Man's motor in there. A solid lifter ZL1 or maybe even better an SB2....:bitchslap:
:cheers:
Man this Rob guy gets wiser by the day. :rules:
If you wanna go fast and be cool put a ZL1 in it.
If you wanna go REALLY fast and be REALLY cool go for the SB2. :headspin:
Rick D
06-26-2013, 06:52 AM
Make us all proud and put a Man's motor in there. A solid lifter ZL1 or maybe even better an SB2....:bitchslap:
:cheers:
If the money was in the budget that would be a great idea but its not. I do have a BB that I "may" put in it, but not right away.
Man this Rob guy gets wiser by the day. :rules:
If you wanna go fast and be cool put a ZL1 in it.
If you wanna go REALLY fast and be REALLY cool go for the SB2. :headspin:
Really Ron doesn't have a SB2 :peepwall: :hitaxeonthehead:
Rick I know of a nice 572 for sale!
Rick D
06-26-2013, 07:22 AM
Rick I know of a nice 572 for sale!
Now that would be cool!! I'm sure it's out of my budget on this one but I'll give you a call:confused59:
strtcar
06-26-2013, 08:08 AM
If you wanna go fast and be cool put a DOHC 5.0 ford in it.
If you wanna go REALLY fast and be REALLY cool go for the 5.8 DOHC GT500 motor. :headspin:
Fixt it for you guys :D :D :D
Rick D
06-26-2013, 08:26 AM
If you wanna go fast and be cool put a DOHC 5.0 ford in it.
If you wanna go REALLY fast and be REALLY cool go for the 5.8 DOHC GT500 motor. :headspin:
Fixt it for you guys :D :D :D
Oh boy :snapout: said the Ford man!! :badidea: :catfight: are you done with the 5 speed install yet????
strtcar
06-26-2013, 08:48 AM
If you wanna go fast and be cool put a DOHC 5.0 ford in it.
If you wanna go REALLY fast and be REALLY cool go for the 5.8 DOHC GT500 motor. :headspin:
Oh boy :snapout: said the Ford man!! :badidea: :catfight: are you done with the 5 speed install yet????
uggg no, got tranny out, ready to get things installed was originally going to put in the used clutch i bought with the T5, but I think thats a bad idea, just dont know the history on it, so going to order new clutch next week then get cracking on it again, things been really busy at work no motivation to go into garage.
SRD Art
06-26-2013, 09:10 AM
Looks like a great Build Rick!
I've struggled a lot with what route to go with my car, I had to really put sometime into what was my dream list and what I could really afford. With a family of 4 kids, 2 are teens, and my wife is a stay at home mom, my budget is what dictates my build and there isn't much I can do with about that. Moving twice across the country in the last year didn't help either. However I do what I can with what I got for my toys.
I built the car with about a $7000 budget. It's simple, it's a basic car on a decent suspension. With a mild 406 small block Chevy it's not super fast but has plenty of autocross torque. It gets about 18+ mpg on the highway and is fairly comfortable to ride in. Best feature of all it's a blast to drive everyday. That's what means the most to me, I can upgrade as I go and will, but unlike a lot of builds I really drive mine and that puts a smile on my face everyday. When it's track day that smile gets even bigger. Hope you can feel that too as you get into your build.
My build thread link is in my sig below if you want to check it out. Good luck!
Rick D
06-26-2013, 05:10 PM
Looks like a great Build Rick!
I've struggled a lot with what route to go with my car, I had to really put sometime into what was my dream list and what I could really afford. With a family of 4 kids, 2 are teens, and my wife is a stay at home mom, my budget is what dictates my build and there isn't much I can do with about that. Moving twice across the country in the last year didn't help either. However I do what I can with what I got for my toys.
I built the car with about a $7000 budget. It's simple, it's a basic car on a decent suspension. With a mild 406 small block Chevy it's not super fast but has plenty of autocross torque. It gets about 18+ mpg on the highway and is fairly comfortable to ride in. Best feature of all it's a blast to drive everyday. That's what means the most to me, I can upgrade as I go and will, but unlike a lot of builds I really drive mine and that puts a smile on my face everyday. When it's track day that smile gets even bigger. Hope you can feel that too as you get into your build.
My build thread link is in my sig below if you want to check it out. Good luck!
Thanks Ben, I have been in your thread before. Nice job you have done with limited resorses you have had. Now that your at Speed Tech you should be able to get some leftovers??
Flash68
06-26-2013, 05:12 PM
Really Ron doesn't have a SB2 :peepwall: :hitaxeonthehead:
Herein lies the problem. :ohsnap: :underchair:
Fixt it for you guys :D :D :D
Haha. I could get on board with that idea actually. :popcorn2:
Cris@JCG
06-26-2013, 07:13 PM
Since you beat me out of buying this car from Stielow.. I had to go hunting for one here in CA.. I found this 73 in Riverside & just picked it up today.. great shape but somebody put a sun roof in it.. Easy to fix though..
http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/1014128_4939325321705_1077225817_n_zpsb755f7f5.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/jcgrestoration/media/1014128_4939325321705_1077225817_n_zpsb755f7f5.jpg .html)
Rick D
06-26-2013, 07:28 PM
Nice Cris, looks like a good car to start with. You know what's funny, I used the same trailer (Marty's) to pick up mine from Mark!
Sun roof, that's not to hard to fix!
fleetus macmullitz
06-26-2013, 07:47 PM
Now that would be cool!! I'm sure it's out of my budget on this one but I'll give you a call:confused59:
Rick,
That obviously would be a lot of fun to drive. Plus if you sell the car, how many 2nd gens would have a 572 in it? Better $$$ return I would think. :)
pro71bird
06-26-2013, 09:50 PM
Look forward to following your build as I too picked up a 73 Camaro a few weeks ago.
George
Evan Iroc-Z
06-27-2013, 07:29 AM
Sun roof Hun, that's not to hard to fix!
I don't know either of you guys, but I have been a lurker for a long time so I am familiar with your humor. Did you just call him Hun?
Ron in SoCal
06-27-2013, 09:04 AM
I think he meant 'Huh', but you know...it's Rick :lol:
Flash68
06-27-2013, 09:24 AM
I don't know either of you guys, but I have been a lurker for a long time so I am familiar with your humor. Did you just call him Hun?
:ohsnap: :headspin:
fleetus macmullitz
06-27-2013, 09:37 AM
I don't know either of you guys, but I have been a lurker for a long time so I am familiar with your humor. Did you just call him Hun?
I doubt it.
Rick doesn't live or want to live...in SF.
:lol:
Rick D
06-27-2013, 01:50 PM
I don't know either of you guys, but I have been a lurker for a long time so I am familiar with your humor. Did you just call him Hun?
I think he meant 'Huh', but you know...it's Rick :lol:
iPad gets me again!!!!!
:ohsnap: :headspin:
Glad you guys got a good laugh at my expense!!!!
I doubt it.
Rick doesn't live or want to live...in SF.
:lol:
Yes Skip is correct no left coast for me! Thanks for havin my back guys
:innocent: :relax:
syborg tt
06-27-2013, 03:04 PM
iPad gets me again!!!!!
Glad you guys got a good laugh at my expense!!!!
Yes Skip is correct no left coast for me! Thanks for havin my back guys
:innocent: :relax:
was there a "Pun Here" - that's for havin my back guys
your starting to worry me.
Rick D
06-27-2013, 05:07 PM
was there a "Pun Here" - that's for havin my back guys
your starting to worry me.
Thanks Marty :catfight: :bitchslap: :buttkick:
Evan Iroc-Z
06-28-2013, 07:03 AM
iPad gets me again!!!!!
I know that the car community can be a tight nit group, so I had to ask.
You are not the first and will not be the last to have autocorrect make you look a little...you know "happy".
fleetus macmullitz
06-28-2013, 07:37 AM
^^^^^^^^^
:lol:
Vince@Meanstreets
06-29-2013, 10:58 AM
I doubt it.
Rick doesn't live or want to live...in SF.
:lol:
sure he would, cause he would be working with me :D
I know that the car community can be a tight nit group, so I had to ask.
You are not the first and will not be the last to have autocorrect make you look a little...you know "happy". its all good, happens all the time cupcake.
edit: sorry meant to type mate.
Rick D
07-01-2013, 08:38 PM
sure he would, cause he would be working with me :D
Now that would be cool!! I bet we could turn out some very cool cars:thumbsup:
.
Ron in SoCal
07-01-2013, 08:59 PM
edit: sorry meant to type mate.
Gold Vince :lol:
FETorino
07-01-2013, 09:00 PM
Now that would be cool!! I bet we could turn out some very cool cars:thumbsup:
.
How about starting with progress on one Orange 2nd gen? :poke:
Rick D
07-01-2013, 09:20 PM
How about starting with progress on one Orange 2nd gen? :poke:
Easy grasshopper!!! There is progress just not much to show or better not much I'm going to show right now :whistling: :lol:
protour73
07-03-2013, 04:52 PM
Easy grasshopper!!! There is progress just not much to show or better not much I'm going to show right now :whistling: :lol:
Rick has been hanging around with Marty and will be reverse posting his build progress!! :snapout: :stirthepot: :buttkick: :badidea:
Rick D
07-03-2013, 05:01 PM
No just working on it and not taking the time to post much about it :superhack: :P :tiptoe:
I'll post some updates soon, now were did I put that spray gun :headscratch:
protour73
07-04-2013, 06:32 AM
No just working on it and not taking the time to post much about it :superhack: :P :tiptoe:
I'll post some updates soon, now were did I put that spray gun :headscratch:
I call BULL, you are NOT painting that car already!! :smiley_smack:
Streetking
07-04-2013, 06:53 AM
Looks like a nice car Rick, congrats.. keep it simple, 2 Gen's are great cars to start with, you don't have to go too crazy to make them handle. Also, Year One makes some nice looking 17" replica wheels, they are priced reasonably and look great. I have some on my other Trans AMs..
SW
Rick D
07-04-2013, 06:58 AM
I call BULL, you are NOT painting that car already!! :smiley_smack:
I didn't say I was painting it already? :mock: :lmao: :hello: I just can't find my spray gun that's all
Looks like a nice car Rick, congrats.. keep it simple, 2 Gen's are great cars to start with, you don't have to go too crazy to make them handle.
SW
Thanks SW, I'm trying very hard to keep it simple (KISS) but I just get carried away sometimes :hitaxeonthehead:
Vince@Meanstreets
08-06-2013, 12:44 AM
any progress bubba? Im almost done with mine...:poke:
syborg tt
08-06-2013, 07:43 AM
I think I saw him driving it last week
fleetus macmullitz
08-06-2013, 07:56 AM
I think I saw him driving it last week
Rick nailed the stance like he does on all his projects.
http://www.musclecarsworld.com/gallery/1970-chevrolet-camaro-454-on-chrome-20-wheels/1970-chevrolet-camaro-454-on-chrome-20-wheels-12.jpg
:underchair:
LOL
66LS7
08-06-2013, 08:11 AM
Hi Rick,
I haven't been on Lateral-g for a while,& when I start taking a look I see the Camaro I sold Mark on here. I'll be watching to see what you do with it.
FETorino
08-06-2013, 09:18 PM
I think I saw him driving it last week
To tell you the truth Rick. I was a little surprised. I thought you said you didn't like the orange.:stirthepot:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/ricks_zpsc7796a0b.png (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/ricks_zpsc7796a0b.png.html)
:cheers:
67goatman455
08-06-2013, 09:39 PM
My Eyes!!!! Ahhhh
DFRESH
08-06-2013, 10:49 PM
Finally, someone else on a budget. I hope you stick to the budget plan and keep it moving forward. If possible, I suggest making only one major mod at a time--get it working correctly, then move on to the next one. All the while, you are watching the "For Sale" stuff and getting the best possible deal you can on the stuff that you want. At least this way you don't suffer the "Down Car" syndrome for years and years. I don't know anyone who loves that except for a few people we both know and whom shall remain nameless.
D
Rick D
08-09-2013, 07:25 PM
any progress bubba? Im almost done with mine...:poke:
Nope nothing to see here move along please!! :hello:
Well first let me say WOW what a crazy few weeks I've had :hairpullout:
Been away almost every week for the last few weeks for work! Then I get to stay in town this past week and it was 12 hr days for the first 4 days this week!! Had to work from home today to catchup on expense reports and other paper work and now I'm beat. I should be done traveling for a while now so I should get back on the car this week.:superhack:
But now I start my new role at my kids school as the assistant athletic director (4 year deal 2 as assistant and 2 as the AD) so we'll see what I can get done at night and on the weekends :headspin:
Rick D
08-09-2013, 07:30 PM
I think I saw him driving it last week
Yeah as you cruzed by in yours :poke: thanks for the call!! I'll call you this weekend!
Rick nailed the stance like he does on all his projects.
http://www.musclecarsworld.com/gallery/1970-chevrolet-camaro-454-on-chrome-20-wheels/1970-chevrolet-camaro-454-on-chrome-20-wheels-12.jpg
:underchair:
LOL
Um NO!!!:smiley_smack: :flag2:
To tell you the truth Rick. I was a little surprised. I thought you said you didn't like the orange.:stirthepot:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/ricks_zpsc7796a0b.png (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/ricks_zpsc7796a0b.png.html)
:cheers:
Stop showing use what you want to do with a Camaro :confused18:
Rick D
08-09-2013, 07:45 PM
Hi Rick,
I haven't been on Lateral-g for a while,& when I start taking a look I see the Camaro I sold Mark on here. I'll be watching to see what you do with it.
Randy not going to crazy really, it's a nice car but as with these old cars it had its fair share of WOW what were they thinking when they did that:lostmarbles:
Chicken wire in the rear window channel :bur2: two inches yes "two inches" of filler in the left fender at the front :rolleyes: !! Oh and radiator support is crushed and junk by the left crushed fender!!! It's all fixed now (pictures soon:_paranoid )
On a side note in no way am I trying to say Randy or Mark new any of the issues I've found once I got into the car! I new the fender had issues and Mark told me about it before I bought the car! Just wounder what some people think when they start putting a gallon of filler on the front half of a fender???
Rick D
08-09-2013, 08:25 PM
Finally, someone else on a budget. I hope you stick to the budget plan and keep it moving forward. If possible, I suggest making only one major mod at a time--get it working correctly, then move on to the next one. All the while, you are watching the "For Sale" stuff and getting the best possible deal you can on the stuff that you want. At least this way you don't suffer the "Down Car" syndrome for years and years. I don't know anyone who loves that except for a few people we both know and whom shall remain nameless.
D
Yeah Doug I'm trying to stay on budget as much as I can! I've taken advantage of the for sale section already on a few things, Ricks stanless tank new in the box at half price, and a couple of other smaller items. The car won't be down for long. Getting some of the major stuff out of the way first.
Rick D
10-10-2013, 07:03 AM
Ok so it's been awhile since my last update :rolleyes: nothing major to report other then I have wheels and tires now :thankyou: Marty!!
They body is all stripped down to metal and no real issues with the out side other then a few small pin holes around the rear wheel openings. Oh and i thought who ever fitted the front fender used a lot of filler :disgusted: well his brother was using another gallon and half on the rear body panel :badidea: it was over two inches thick!!
I think I have my color nailed down and how I will do the stripe and trim on the car
I ended up getting rid of the chrome trim around the side windows, part of the Type LT package just didn't fit the whole theme I'm going for.
So here's a few pictures of where it's at now.
Before that what do you guys think about the side markers?? Keep'em or lose them?? Just can't decide.
Here's the fender when I started to strip it of its gal of filler!!
Rick D
10-10-2013, 07:09 AM
After it was stripped
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:confused18: :faint: :faint: The money they spent on BONDO they could of bought a new fender!!!!
Ron in SoCal
10-10-2013, 07:47 AM
After it was stripped
Ugg...:hairpullout:
Rick, lose the side markers if it's not a big deal in Illy. :rules:
fleetus macmullitz
10-10-2013, 07:51 AM
I woulda saved the once owned by Stielow bondo. :thumbsup:
:D
BonzoHansen
10-10-2013, 07:56 AM
I missed this 1st time around. I love a good 2nd gen, and on a budget to boot! Can't wait to see more, looks like a great project
INTMD8
10-10-2013, 09:10 AM
Wow that is a lot of filler! :twak:
Even still, Rick will get it perfect in no time :thumbsup:
syborg tt
10-10-2013, 12:47 PM
After it was stripped
Kinda looks like my finder. Hey if you want to come over and get mine to cut it up for parts you more then welcome to come get it out of my warehouse.
http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/resizes/Builders/Sportmachines/702ndChance/2011%2002-10%202nd%20Chance%20%287%29.JPG
syborg tt
10-10-2013, 12:55 PM
I have good news I found you some NOS Fenders
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271287486295&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:US:1123
http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3JRcbCC/0/XL/i-3JRcbCC-XL.jpg
BonzoHansen
10-10-2013, 12:59 PM
I have good news I found you some NOS Fenders
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271287486295&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:US:1123
only $2500, what a pal!
syborg tt
10-10-2013, 01:19 PM
only $2500, what a pal!
lol what are friends for.
tubbed69
10-10-2013, 05:41 PM
Buy the NOS fenders Rick,throw out the budget,just kidding glad to see you making progress.sure are some bad bodymen out there,that sucks.
Rick D
10-10-2013, 06:56 PM
I have good news I found you some NOS Fenders
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271287486295&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:US:1123
[IMG]http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3JRcbCC/0/XL/i-3JRcbCC-XL.jpg
No I'm good!!
only $2500, what a pal!
Yeah what a pal :thankyou:
lol what are friends for.
Yup he's a keeper :hello:
Rick D
10-10-2013, 07:04 PM
Here's the fenders stripped and ready for repair. And yes I am fixing this fender!!!
Rick D
10-10-2013, 07:09 PM
So here's the door and qtr super clean very happy with these panels.
Rick D
10-10-2013, 07:12 PM
Now the rear body panel is a different storie:hitaxeonthehead:
Rick D
10-10-2013, 07:14 PM
And another
WSSix
10-10-2013, 07:32 PM
Keep the marker lights but change them to something else. Lights can be used as an accent piece.
syborg tt
10-10-2013, 08:42 PM
Now the rear body panel is a different storie:hitaxeonthehead:
Good thing you took the one from my Warehouse.
Vince@Meanstreets
10-10-2013, 08:50 PM
Exhaust outlets!!!!!
Rick D
10-10-2013, 09:14 PM
A few more random shots
It was a vinyl top car :confused59: sand blast some small pitting
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/b1c4844e83a07b40f1d11d36d9976940_zpsdd676afa.jpg
Got to love nice and tight gaps
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/4e6fb29d96de939ebfe816139664063f_zpsb6fabfc5.jpg
Really clean metal for the most part!
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/4e2463420d9ec5510f468ca9c1aefa0d_zps387938c2.jpg
My new wheels and tires, yes these have been seen ion Marty's car before!! Remember budget!!! 295's in the rear and 255's in the front.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/13ef3c171339700a09f811c096ef7281_zpscd214dec.jpg
Rick D
10-10-2013, 09:28 PM
Oh and some more filler! This is the rear window area they just filled it with tape and filler right over it.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/3593d2f19355f631af704d434716fb11_zpsc18b0ee5.jpg
The chunk I pulled out!
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/8239e1ab776cef4518df4689cfff2921_zpse2ec5c44.jpg
Rick D
10-10-2013, 09:30 PM
Good thing you took the one from my Warehouse.
Yes!! Thank you!!
Exhaust outlets!!!!!
Most likely not, I thought about it but I'm just going to fix it!
syborg tt
10-10-2013, 09:30 PM
Eak !!!
Oh and some more filler! This is the rear window area they just filled it with tape and filler right over it.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/3593d2f19355f631af704d434716fb11_zpsc18b0ee5.jpg
The chunk I pulled out!
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/8239e1ab776cef4518df4689cfff2921_zpse2ec5c44.jpg
Vince@Meanstreets
10-10-2013, 10:05 PM
Oh and some more filler! This is the rear window area they just filled it with tape and filler right over it.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/3593d2f19355f631af704d434716fb11_zpsc18b0ee5.jpg
The chunk I pulled out!
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/8239e1ab776cef4518df4689cfff2921_zpse2ec5c44.jpg
FLUSH MOUNT THE GLASS!!!! :knokwood:
LOL
Rick D
10-10-2013, 10:16 PM
FLUSH MOUNT THE GLASS!!!! :knokwood:
LOL
That thought did cross my mind :whistling: just not sure I want or have have the time to invest in that project???
Vince@Meanstreets
10-10-2013, 10:19 PM
That thought did cross my mind :whistling: just not sure I want or have have the time to invest in that project???
its super easy, specially with talented metal burners like us. Im doing the 70 project we have in the shop. Hell, your gonna be adding metal anyways right? Whats a little bit more 16g?
Rick don't listen to them! Just reuse the piece you took out of there and bondo that baby right up !!!:buttkick:
fleetus macmullitz
10-11-2013, 08:01 AM
Rick don't listen to them! Just reuse the piece you took out of there and bondo that baby right up !!!:buttkick:
:lol:
This is like seeing 'War of the Worlds, the 2nd gen' version unfold before our very eyes. But it's good theater.
:thankyou:
Evan Iroc-Z
10-11-2013, 08:34 AM
Oh and some more filler! This is the rear window area they just filled it with tape and filler right over it.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/3593d2f19355f631af704d434716fb11_zpsc18b0ee5.jpg
I love your budget race seat! Do you have a matching one for the passenger?
RussMurco
10-11-2013, 12:19 PM
its [flush glass] super easy, specially with talented metal burners like us. Im doing the 70 project we have in the shop. Hell, your gonna be adding metal anyways right? Whats a little bit more 16g?
Yes, and we need a thread on how to do it! I'd love to tackle that on my 1970!!!
WSSix
10-11-2013, 07:55 PM
I'd say flush mount also since the metal has to be fixed. However, what does the glass cost? It's a custom piece isn't it? Or do you reuse the original and make all the changes in the channels? Yeah, we need a thread. You'll have to flush mount the front now too if you do the back. Do it! LOL
Rick D
10-11-2013, 08:14 PM
I'd say flush mount also since the metal has to be fixed. However, what does the glass cost? It's a custom piece isn't it? Or do you reuse the original and make all the changes in the channels? Yeah, we need a thread. You'll have to flush mount the front now too if you do the back. Do it! LOL
You use the stock glass the way Vince is talking about doing it. Mostly likely I won't as it still takes time to do it and I have an idea on what I'm doing with the trim and bumpers on the car so I really want to keep the trim so not this time :D
strtcar
10-11-2013, 08:31 PM
Looking good Rick.
Vince@Meanstreets
10-13-2013, 10:37 AM
You use the stock glass the way Vince is talking about doing it. Mostly likely I won't as it still takes time to do it and I have an idea on what I'm doing with the trim and bumpers on the car so I really want to keep the trim so not this time :D
its cool, trim looks good too. When you paint it body color. :hapdance:
Rick D
10-13-2013, 11:44 AM
Looking good Rick.
Thanks Rich!!!
its cool, trim looks good too. When you paint it body color. :hapdance:
Yeah or if you do a brushed look to all the trim :relax:
glassman
10-14-2013, 10:00 PM
it looks really good to flush mount, but as a glass guy, do you add the channel/metal towards the edge of the glass or do you add the channel under the glass ? in other words, do you raise it to be flush? if you did i would thind the gap would be too much, so you add the metal to make the opening smaller?
Vince@Meanstreets
10-14-2013, 10:11 PM
it looks really good to flush mount, but as a glass guy, do you add the channel/metal towards the edge of the glass or do you add the channel under the glass ? in other words, do you raise it to be flush? if you did i would thind the gap would be too much, so you add the metal to make the opening smaller?
yes, just move the channel closer. Then you add metal raise the base. We shoot for 1/4" edge gap and 3/8"base gap for the urethane.
or build up with urethane and run a rubber trim. Which would be totally reversable.
FETorino
10-14-2013, 11:24 PM
Rick I better see you driving this one! I don't want you to be one of those guys that takes forever to finish a project!:_paranoid
Yeah yeah yeah, don't worry it's only in a few pieces right now :rolleyes:! I'm going to fix the few rust issues it has first then move on to some up grades! Those should all be finished by next weekend. Just picked up the floor pans today!
Yup Chad I was in that group for a long time, I cut bate and moved on. That's why I bought this car!
Wow kettle meet black pot!!
Yeah right :twak:
Rick
Welcome back to the "it will run someday" club :poke:
:cheers:
Hey it still runs :mock: nope not going there!!! :knokwood: :knokwood: :knokwood: :knokwood: :knokwood:
Must resist :superhack: must resist :G-Dub:
Rick Rick Rick I remember warning you about this.:shakehead:
Welcome to the growing ranks of the Jackstand Army.:cheers:
Vince@Meanstreets
10-14-2013, 11:43 PM
You guys gotta have some faith!
Powertrain comes when you can fully afford it. Do all of the close to free stuff you can do and still keep it running.
Rick D
10-15-2013, 05:04 AM
Rick Rick Rick I remember warning you about this.:shakehead:
Welcome to the growing ranks of the Jackstand Army.:cheers:
Rob what do you mean, I don't have any jack stands under my car??? :hello: :lmao:
Oh and just wait until I ask Mario if I can use his rotisserie that Marty has!! J/K :_paranoid :whistling:
syborg tt
10-15-2013, 07:36 AM
Oh and just wait until I ask Mario if I can use his rotisserie that Marty has!! J/K :_paranoid :whistling:
I am certain he will let you use it. However I think his car will be back from BBT soon and I think his car will be going on it.
I am certain he will let you use it. However I think his car will be back from BBT soon and I think his car will be going on it.
Rick you have until the end of Febuary ! Marty has it all set up for a second gen already. :gitrdun:
Rick D
10-16-2013, 06:57 AM
Rick you have until the end of Febuary ! Marty has it all set up for a second gen already. :gitrdun:
Man I can't wait to see Robs face or post with my car on a rotisserie :thankyou: :rofl:
syborg tt
10-16-2013, 07:49 AM
Man I can't wait to see Robs face or post with my car on a rotisserie :thankyou: :rofl:
So when you coming for it.
Rick D
07-20-2014, 07:35 PM
Ok so I'm back on it full steam ahead!!
It's not as clean as we thought it was:confused18: but they are 40 year old cars! So it needs a left qtr and lt fender and rear body panel. :shakehead: I have few details worked out but more on those later, first here is where I'm at now.
Stupid iPad, it says my pictures are to big?? Really I took them with my phone! Oh well I'll have to jump on photo bucket! Be back soon!
tubbed69
07-21-2014, 07:49 AM
Glad to hear your back on it Rick,show us your pics:thumbsup:
Ron in SoCal
07-21-2014, 10:26 AM
Way to go Rick! Oh, and
:ttiwop:
:cheers: :D
syborg tt
07-21-2014, 10:38 AM
Ok so I'm back on it full steam ahead!!
It's not as clean as we thought it was:confused18: but they are 40 year old cars! So it needs a left qtr and lt fender and rear body panel. :shakehead: I have few details worked out but more on those later, first here is where I'm at now.
Stupid iPad, it says my pictures are to big?? Really I took them with my phone! Oh well I'll have to jump on photo bucket! Be back soon!
Sorry we just can't wait for you to post up the pictures so it looks like I am going to do it for you. :lmao: :lmao:
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invoice is in the mail. It took me 2 minutes @ $75.00/hour so it looks like you owe me lunch at Los Burrito on Ogden.
Flash68
07-21-2014, 01:27 PM
Thank you Marty... that's what we require. :bitchslap:
FETorino
07-21-2014, 04:48 PM
Yeah yeah yeah, don't worry it's only in a few pieces right now :rolleyes:! I'm going to fix the few rust issues it has first then move on to some up grades! Those should all be finished by next weekend. Just picked up the floor pans today!
:
Hey it still runs :mock: nope not going there!!! :knokwood: :knokwood: :knokwood: :knokwood:
Must resist :superhack: must resist :G-Dub:
Ah and it was just a year ago when our here Charley Brown set off so make a few quick changes to his great Pumpkin and vowed to keep it on the road.:rolleyes::lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol:
Rick I'm just glad you didn't sell it and you are back on the project again.:thumbsup:
I hope you got the property also in addition to keeping the car.
:cheers:
Ricochet
07-21-2014, 05:03 PM
The sign above the bead blaster is awesome!! Priorities!!
Rick D
07-21-2014, 06:14 PM
Thanks you Marty, lunch is well worth it!! Maybe Friday??
Sorry we just can't wait for you to post up the pictures so it looks like I am going to do it for you. :lmao: :lmao:
invoice is in the mail. It took me 2 minutes @ $75.00/hour so it looks like you owe me lunch at Los Burrito on Ogden.
Yes Rob back on it full steam ahead, oh and it still runs and drives :thumbsup:
As for the property it's mine or ours!! We have some time before anything gets built over there! It's the last place I'm going to live in my life so we are going to get it as right as possible so no rush.:relax:
Ah and it was just a year ago when our here Charley Brown set off so make a few quick changes to his great Pumpkin and vowed to keep it on the road.:rolleyes::lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol:
Rick I'm just glad you didn't sell it and you are back on the project again.:thumbsup:
I hope you got the property also in addition to keeping the car.
:cheers:
Thanks Brett!!
You are right my kids made that for my birthday when they were 6 years old now they are 12, they asked me the other day if I was going to take it down I said NEVER!!! I can build all the cars I want when they've gone on into life but I spend as much time as I can with them because some day they won't want us to!!
The sign above the bead blaster is awesome!! Priorities!!
Vince@Meanstreets
07-21-2014, 06:16 PM
btw, trunk drop offs are cheap and easy to do. :D
Rick D
07-21-2014, 06:16 PM
Thank you Marty... that's what we require. :bitchslap:
Um :stirthepot: pot meet cattle!! :innocent:
Rick D
07-21-2014, 06:18 PM
btw, trunk drop offs are cheap and easy to do. :D
Yup I just ordered the trunk drop today!! Just waiting to hear back on the qtr and now that I'm in this far I'm going to mini tub it as well!! :D
Ron in SoCal
07-21-2014, 07:48 PM
Um :stirthepot: pot meet cattle!! :innocent:
:lol: we are cattle!
Yup I just ordered the trunk drop today!! Just waiting to hear back on the qtr and now that I'm in this far I'm going to mini tub it as well!! :D
Atta boy! :cheers:
Rick D
07-21-2014, 08:05 PM
:lol: we are cattle!
guilty as charged!!
Atta boy! :cheers:
Now I just need to decide on the rear suspension?? If I'm going this far in the back I really don't want to put leafs back in??
glassman
07-21-2014, 08:17 PM
Now I just need to decide on the rear suspension?? If I'm going this far in the back I really don't want to put leafs back in??
So much for the "it still drives part" lol....
good to see ya back in this section......
Musclerodz
07-21-2014, 09:18 PM
Now I just need to decide on the rear suspension?? If I'm going this far in the back I really don't want to put leafs back in??
no you don't, but that is an expensive road to start down.
HBRod
07-21-2014, 09:20 PM
Cool project. Was just thinking that if you sold off 1/4lb amounts of genuine Stielow bondo you could raise money for the car. Solve two problems in one. Remove the bondo from your place and fund the car. Been reading through the thread and like your approach. I think my vote for suspension would be Ridetech as it's less invasive and keeps the car close to being on the road while you finish the body and paint. Just a thought. Good luck and realizing your dream.
Rod
syborg tt
07-22-2014, 08:48 AM
Thanks you Marty, lunch is well worth it!! Maybe Friday??
Late Lunch could work
Sales@Dutchboys
07-22-2014, 09:53 AM
Rick what did you do!?!
I like the sounds of the new rear suspension and mini tubs! :welder:
Rick D
07-22-2014, 08:18 PM
I know aftermarket fender are not the greatest but this thing is the biggest piece of SH!T I have ever seen!!!
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/bbcdbb507bd6bbb52bf6a769fea506b4_zpsa7f8d2e7.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/620631494cd9b40e464e3477c96cfe52_zps2036c0a2.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/d6128341ea4e708510541cfc64a6f8c8_zps6bb00b88.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/a2599e4cb0d89f352959d0dd9a327c2c_zpsfca19975.jpg
tombar67
07-22-2014, 09:39 PM
Wow! That's pretty bad. Where did you get them?
Che70velle
07-22-2014, 09:49 PM
Rick, that fender must be made by the same manufacturer that made mine. I bought a new front clip basically, and my right side fender looked a lot like that one. I am NOT a body man, and it just about drove me crazy trying to figure out how to MAKE the stupid thing work. There should be a law against taking new Sheetmetal, and cutting it and welding it, and using body filler. Junk isn't cheap, either!
Vince@Meanstreets
07-22-2014, 11:30 PM
please tell me those are not AMD's.
Call me crazy but thats why I try to fix my old crap.
Are you doing full quarters Rick?
Rick D
07-23-2014, 05:13 AM
Wow! That's pretty bad. Where did you get them?
It's from "Goodmark" who is owned by LKQ now which it us made by Legon!!
Rick, that fender must be made by the same manufacturer that made mine. I bought a new front clip basically, and my right side fender looked a lot like that one. I am NOT a body man, and it just about drove me crazy trying to figure out how to MAKE the stupid thing work. There should be a law against taking new Sheetmetal, and cutting it and welding it, and using body filler. Junk isn't cheap, either!
Yeah I hear you, the thing is I am a body man, well I've been in the collision industry for 25 plus year any way. Not my day job but still!! I had my own resto place and have done ALOT of restos so you think I would be used to getting this crappppp!!!
please tell me those are not AMD's.
Call me crazy but thats why I try to fix my old crap.
Are you doing full quarters Rick?
Nope Goodmark made Legon. It was only $100 my org was smash real bad in the front, so now I'm just going to cut them both up and use the back of my org fender and the front of this patch panel.
I haven't decided yet on the otr, I only need one on the driver side my passenger is is perfect. Only need the rear lower section, but my window channel is junk as well (which is why the lower rusted out from all the water running down there). It's $320 my cost for a Goodmark (Legon) so I really don't want to spend the money on a full one so I'm not sure yet:headspin:!! Most likely I will replace the full qtr!! :weld:
Sales@Dutchboys
07-23-2014, 06:16 AM
Same Issue with those aftermarket fenders I got for my second gen! They look identical to those problem areas. Have you put the hood on? It is not even close to matching the crown on a original hood. I am surprised AMD hasn't done any front fenders for the second gens. The 1st fenders don't fit to bad.
syborg tt
07-23-2014, 07:51 AM
Rick I think I have both of my old fenders that you can have to use as patch panels of you want.
Rick D
07-24-2014, 08:27 PM
Ok so tonight I though bull this fender can't be that bad?? 😜
So after I changed out the bent rad support for a new one and about 5 mins of messing with the fender it's MUCH better and I will be able to use after all!! :headspin: :relax:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/bc155c0971023fccf1e9d25161f444e1_zpsd129f5bd.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/7f0c23191c32f3547dc5fdafeffd1a23_zpsf877eb6a.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/42b7028b56852243a202bd6117cf670b_zpse4231564.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/ad2c212d7e449b95c77cf4cc2f7e04cd_zps25423360.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/69342eb5ebc2829d584023f23e634ed4_zps88edb5cc.jpg
Gotta keep it running!!
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/027d55a83647776b41c12ce6947d6364_zpsdb9768b7.jpg
Ron in SoCal
07-24-2014, 09:19 PM
Funny how the right little tweak changes everything. :thumbsup: Rick, glad it worked out for you!
tubbed69
07-24-2014, 10:48 PM
Glad that issue worked out for you Rick,everything you do on these cars is so time consuming which is hard to get for our own cars:thumbsup:
Vince@Meanstreets
07-24-2014, 11:55 PM
I haven't decided yet on the otr, I only need one on the driver side my passenger is is perfect. Only need the rear lower section, but my window channel is junk as well (which is why the lower rusted out from all the water running down there). It's $320 my cost for a Goodmark (Legon) so I really don't want to spend the money on a full one so I'm not sure yet:headspin:!! Most likely I will replace the full qtr!! :weld:
oh man you aint learned your lesson? AMD is $280 my cost plus shipping.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/amd-7003570l
Rick D
07-25-2014, 06:56 AM
oh man you aint learned your lesson? AMD is $280 my cost plus shipping.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/amd-7003570l
It's NOT an AMD part; it's a Legon in an AMD box!! :poke: so I paid $100 for your $280 fender that is the same :bitchslap: :lmao: :mock:
Rick D
07-25-2014, 07:03 AM
Funny how the right little tweak changes everything. :thumbsup: Rick, glad it worked out for you!
Thanks Ron, sometime you need to slow down to go fast!!
Glad that issue worked out for you Rick,everything you do on these cars is so time consuming which is hard to get for our own cars:thumbsup:
You are soooo right Jeff, I hope my work load stays the same for a few months :knokwood: but I keep hearing that's most likely not the case :badidea: :shakehead:
My name has been mentioned for another position at work and that requires 7 weeks of training :disgusted: and that's out of state!!
Rick D
07-25-2014, 07:05 AM
Ok quick question; marker lights or no marker lights??? And yes I know there are laws about it, I'm sure that's NOT what I would get a ticket for when it back on the road :D
Ahhh aftermarket garbage gotta love it! Funny the Golden liegion quarters fit my car the best! I went through GOODMARK and AMD . The more expensive AMD's fit the worse! Go figure. Rick just take it to Troy he will get those gaps perfect for you!!!:G-Dub:
Rick D
07-25-2014, 07:52 AM
Rick just take it to Troy he will get those gaps perfect for you!!!:G-Dub:
UMMMMM NO!!!! I see what happens when you take a car to Troy for gaping!! :poke: :weld: :thumbsup: :superhack: :G-Dub:
UMMMMM NO!!!! I see what happens when you take a car to Troy for gaping!! :poke: :weld: :thumbsup: :superhack: :G-Dub:
Yea maybe its not a good idea!:)
Vince@Meanstreets
07-25-2014, 11:35 AM
It's NOT an AMD part; it's a Legon in an AMD box!! :poke: so I paid $100 for your $280 fender that is the same :bitchslap: :lmao: :mock:
not fender Rick, quarter panel.....Legion? are they? AMD usually has an X in the part number if its an offshore.
To date, I haven't had any issues with AMD. Depends on what part you buy I suppose.
RussMurco
07-25-2014, 03:23 PM
You are right my kids made that for my birthday when they were 6 years old now they are 12, they asked me the other day if I was going to take it down I said NEVER!!! I can build all the cars I want when they've gone on into life but I spend as much time as I can with them because some day they won't want us to!!
"Spend the time when it's important to them, they'll spend the time when it's important to you..."
-Dennis Prager
I hope that's true!!!
Rick D
07-25-2014, 08:27 PM
not fender Rick, quarter panel.....Legion? are they? AMD usually has an X in the part number if its an offshore.
To date, I haven't had any issues with AMD. Depends on what part you buy I suppose.
Oh gotcha :headscratch: I didn't even look at the link :innocent: $280?? What shipping cost??
intocarss
07-25-2014, 10:03 PM
Looking goooooooooooooooooood!!!!!
Rick D
07-26-2014, 06:30 AM
Looking goooooooooooooooooood!!!!!
Thanks Jer!!
You better hurry up over to Marty's !! Time ticking!!!
Rick D
07-26-2014, 07:38 AM
So after spending the last week working on the car and then searching for and planing out my suspension for the front and rear <WOW :hairpullout:
I've come to a couple of conclusions, first yup you guessed it this hobby cost a lot :hairpullout: and second man are there ALOT of options out there for a 2nd gen Camaro :waveflag:
I could build a 9 second drag car with motor for you can spend on upper end front and rear suspension for our cars.
The hardest part is trying to put the right parts together (system) you want this, but oh that would be cool to have. Yeah I know what's the intended use for the car :BlahBlah: I get all that. I know to go with a system from a vender and not try to rethink what they have already done. I was talking with my wife and she said why don't you just build the car you want?? :confused59: :idea: And I said here's how much the just the suspension I want will cost and here's what she did :lmao:!! But said if that's what you want then go for it just don't show her the bill s for any of it!! :catfight:
Soooo after my long winded :BlahBlah: here's what I'm going to do, first I'm going back to the "KISS" method for this build!! I have two kids that will be in catholic high school in two years :hairpullout: and then collage after that! So just can't see spending that kind of cash now in my life it just doesn't make sense.
I'm going to finish the body make it perfect like a resto top and bottom. Rebuild all the parts I have suspension front and back, maybe a set of lowering springs (most likely as they will not cost that much).
As for the interior mine is in nice shape other then new carpet and redo the seats. So nothing crazy there.
Wheels well I'll see what comes up there but it will be on the lower end of cost that's for sure. I will do some little custom things to the body but nothing crazy. Just a nice street cruiser that's it!! :relax:
Anyway with all that said let show you a picture of my DSE sub frame I just ordered!! :D :ups:
J/K :D Now out to the shop to keep working on it because it's not going to finish it self ( ask me how I know that)??? :relax:
Rick D
07-26-2014, 07:40 AM
You better hurry up over to Marty's !! Time ticking!!!
Next weekend is my plan or this week sometime?? Read above^^^ I've got a plan now :hairpullout: :D :woot: :hello:
Texting him as I reply!!
fleetus macmullitz
07-26-2014, 08:00 AM
Next weekend is my plan or this week sometime?? Read above^^^ I've got a plan now :hairpullout: :D :woot: :hello:
:thumbsup:
FPQlXNH36mI
intocarss
07-26-2014, 11:27 AM
^^ Tree'd by Cozmo ^^
Vince@Meanstreets
07-26-2014, 12:00 PM
Next weekend is my plan or this week sometime?? Read above^^^ I've got a plan now :hairpullout: :D :woot: :hello:
Texting him as I reply!!
Just do all the stuff you can accomplish on the cheap. Most of the metal work can be done on a budget. We were mini tubing cars long before DSE tubs were available. As long as you can weld and stick metal where its supposed to go.
Rear suspension systems can be created. Links are cheap to build with parts available from Speedway, Spohn, and Summit. A RideTech air bar rear isn't too bad as far as cost.
That front suspension works fine. With better parts available now it would be even better. Our combo back in the day was Koni's, factory HD coil springs chopped to fit, 75-81 TA sway bars, new bushings and firewall bars. Several Solo II cars with this simple package did very well, Koni's painted gray of course. That's with rubber bushings and no frame connectors. (well a cage but you know)
The goal is to keep it running.
If you are serious about wanting to keep it under budget let me know.
We built this one with a serious budget in mind.
http://www.meanstreetsperformance.com/ignacios-70-camaro-rs-pro-touring-build.html
You would pee a little if you found out how much the rear suspension cost to build.
Rick D
07-26-2014, 12:40 PM
Just do all the stuff you can accomplish on the cheap. Most of the metal work can be done on a budget. We were mini tubing cars long before DSE tubs were available. As long as you can weld and stick metal where its supposed to go.
Rear suspension systems can be created. Links are cheap to build with parts available from Speedway, Spohn, and Summit. A RideTech air bar rear isn't too bad as far as cost.
That front suspension works fine. With better parts available now it would be even better. Our combo back in the day was Koni's, factory HD coil springs chopped to fit, 75-81 TA sway bars, new bushings and firewall bars. Several Solo II cars with this simple package did very well, Koni's painted gray of course. That's with rubber bushings and no frame connectors. (well a cage but you know)
The goal is to keep it running.
If you are serious about wanting to keep it under budget let me know.
We built this one with a serious budget in mind.
http://www.meanstreetsperformance.com/ignacios-70-camaro-rs-pro-touring-build.html
You would pee a little if you found out how much the rear suspension cost to build.
Ok we need to talk???
WSSix
07-26-2014, 04:01 PM
At this point, I'm following the same budget minded suspension path as you, Rick. I went with Custom Works for Viking coil overs and Speed Tech control arms on the front. You could easily save a bunch of money and stay with a coil spring/shock combo. I'm already a WS6 so I have the upgraded sway bars. For the rear, I'm trying out composite monoleafs with Viking shocks that match the front shocks. We'll see if this gives me the desired performance/budget balance I want. I'm not tubbed at this point. 9.5" on all four corners is the goal for me for now. Maybe one day I'll minitub. When I do, it's going to be with a strip of metal and not DSE tubs. I'm building a go car not a show car.
Good luck, Rick. I like your plan.
Rick D
09-01-2014, 07:15 PM
Ummmm what's going on here??? :peepwall:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/e4552988d759784d0433591ac497f313_zps241403fa.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/64955d1b699319a79b734139838e23dd_zps143438f7.jpg
65_LS1_T56
09-01-2014, 07:18 PM
I'm guessing somebody doesn't like the way the repop fender fits to the door. He's gonna do a fenderectomy :superhack:
Ummmm what's going on here??? :peepwall:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/e4552988d759784d0433591ac497f313_zps241403fa.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/64955d1b699319a79b734139838e23dd_zps143438f7.jpg
Looks like someone went a little crazy with a cutoff wheel or plasma.....
glassman
09-01-2014, 07:43 PM
I'd say your going for more airflow. The brakes will cool fine with that mod IMO, but i really think your going after cooling the coils as they bounce up and down (kinda like the mattress in your master bed):peepwall:
glassman
09-01-2014, 07:45 PM
Was kinda doin the same thing, can't leave well enough alone
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r530/mikearmienti/06F2E855-9C55-49E4-8336-91EA2A33A649.jpg
Rick D
09-02-2014, 04:56 AM
I'm guessing somebody doesn't like the way the repop fender fits to the door. He's gonna do a fenderectomy :superhack:
Ding ding ding!! Yup but it was at the back of the hood that lined up real bad, the hood was almost an inch up from the back of the fender. The line to the door was to bad; workable any. Plus this way the inner structure of the org gets to stay. It's not even close to the org.
Looks like someone went a little crazy with a cutoff wheel or plasma.....
Air saw :superhack: and spot weld drill, but not crazy (well maybe the guy running it) easiest way to it fix the issue in the end.
Rick D
09-02-2014, 05:15 AM
So the fender didn't line well to the hood, so it was either drill out all the spot welds at the top of the A/M fender and try to over it up and move the cage nuts down for the hood hinge or just use the front of the A/M fender as a patch panel :superhack: so as you can see which idea won, this will be the easiest fix in the end.
I also get to keep my org inner structure of the fender which the A/M doesn't look anything like:EmoteClueless: and I get a much better fitting fender. I should be all wrapped up with this part by next weekend. Then it's on to the rear end of the car!!!
More of this :superhack: to come!!
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/f5a5068e1a3af4bfada998ba90965fb8_zps9883fada.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/1973%20Camaro%20Project%20Pumpkin/8472370c87633cf3fe275e8d23ec8c25_zps72287f6c.jpg
syborg tt
09-02-2014, 07:37 AM
that's awesome.
ps you should have just bought the NOS one I have sitting my my warehouse
Rick D
09-02-2014, 08:01 AM
that's awesome.
ps you should have just bought the NOS one I have sitting my my warehouse
Yeah but the price of admission is just to much for me!! Lol
Plus don't you have the complete front end??
syborg tt
09-02-2014, 08:04 AM
Yeah but the price of admission is just to much for me!! Lol
Plus don't you have the complete front end??
I also have another complete car with NOS Fenders, and a boat load of Carbon fiber pieces for a 2nd gen.
Plus I have a 67 Camaro, with about 10 grand of Anvil Carbon fiber stuff, 24 Trailer.... $10,000 takes the 1st gen and we would have to talk about the 2nd gen.
strtcar
09-02-2014, 08:23 AM
Looking good Rick, I want to see it on the road next summer.
INTMD8
09-03-2014, 01:22 PM
Anyway with all that said let show you a picture of my DSE sub frame I just ordered!! :D :ups:
:
This was the only part I read :mock:
Looking good! I like the effort put into the fender surgery.
syborg tt
09-03-2014, 01:47 PM
This was the only part I read :mock:
Looking good! I like the effort put into the fender surgery.
I tell you he is going to love that sub.
intocarss
09-03-2014, 02:55 PM
:gitrdun:
Rick D
09-06-2014, 12:19 PM
I'm using this picture of Jody's rendering from he was building his 2nd gen as inspiration for my build. What do you think? This is close to what the final car will look like.
Jody let me know if I owe you a royalty for the picture?? :D
camcojb
09-06-2014, 01:16 PM
I'm using this picture of Jody's rendering from he was building his 2nd gen as inspiration for my build. What do you think? This is close to what the final car will look like.
Jody let me know if I owe you a royalty for the picture?? :D
No, that's all Ben Hermance!! :trophy-1302:
Rick D
09-06-2014, 02:31 PM
No, that's all Ben Hermance!! :trophy-1302:
Well ok, but you had him do it!! I wonder how much he would charge for a copy as it's already be done?
syborg tt
09-06-2014, 04:54 PM
I can't tell you how excited I am that your going to do that paint color and scheme.
WSSix
09-06-2014, 08:06 PM
I think that's an excellent look!
glassman
09-06-2014, 10:19 PM
Yep. Yep. Thats it. wouldn't do anything different, right down to the "pastel" blue.
RussMurco
09-09-2014, 01:53 PM
All these blue Camaro owners dog-piling on the color choice!!!
:cheering: :cheering: :cheering: :lmao:
OLDFLM
09-09-2014, 02:03 PM
I can't tell you how excited I am that your going to do that paint color and scheme.
Me too!:thumbsup:
syborg tt
09-09-2014, 02:44 PM
Blue is the new Black or is it Blue is the new Red
All these blue Camaro owners dog-piling on the color choice!!!
:cheering: :cheering: :cheering: :lmao:
RussMurco
09-09-2014, 03:44 PM
Blue is the new Black or is it Blue is the new Red
Actually, blue was definitely on the list for the Firebird I'm building too!
:peepwall:
Rick D
09-09-2014, 09:39 PM
Blue is the new Black or is it Blue is the new Red
Actually, blue was definitely on the list for the Firebird I'm building too!
:peepwall:
Yeah well if Marty would stop sending other color combos it might be painted already! :poke:
syborg tt
09-09-2014, 09:40 PM
Yeah well if Marty would stop sending other color combos it might be painted already! :poke:
I have only just begun !!!!!!
Rick D
09-09-2014, 09:43 PM
I have only just begun !!!!!!
Yeah I know :warning: :hello:
Vince@Meanstreets
11-29-2014, 11:57 AM
Ok no more jabberin....... whats the scoop.
Lets get this up to speed for everyone. Post up the list please.
Rick D
11-29-2014, 07:45 PM
Ok no more jabberin....... whats the scoop.
Lets get this up to speed for everyone. Post up the list please.
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Vince@Meanstreets
11-29-2014, 09:04 PM
did you sell it?
Rick D
11-30-2014, 06:19 AM
did you sell it?
Nope, and I'm going to the shop right now to work on it :headspin: :D
It's going along slowly, I've been crazy busy with the day job and kids sports. I'm hoping to have it all epoxied later today!! I still need to order my qtr panel, I just can't bring myself to spend $100 on shipping an AMD when I can get a Goodmark for a few bucks less and no shipping??
I just can't bring myself to spend $100 on shipping an AMD when I can get a Goodmark for a few bucks less and no shipping??
Plus you'll get to spend many more hours 'bonding' with the Goodmark quarter panel. :snapout:
Rick D
11-30-2014, 07:35 AM
Plus you'll get to spend many more hours 'bonding' with the Goodmark quarter panel. :snapout:
:disgusted: :bitchslap:
Maybe?? I've used lots of Goodmark panels in the past some fit great some fit like sh!t. Soooo we'll see :popcorn2:
If I knew for sure that the AMD fit that much better then I would spend the money, we have a local dealer for for AMD but he charges almost the same price as with shipping, plus he doesn't stock that much AMD metal.
GregWeld
11-30-2014, 07:36 AM
A penny saved is pound foolish in this case.... AMD is the far better product.
Vince@Meanstreets
11-30-2014, 10:28 AM
If you posses more skill than money go for the cheap stuff.
But nothing eats up more time and moral like an ill fitting part. You may save $150-200 but you'll be doing about 3 hours of extra work. The problem areas are the trunk gap and tail panel transition.
Hope to see it in primer soon.
:disgusted: :bitchslap:
Maybe?? I've used lots of Goodmark panels in the past some fit great some fit like sh!t. Soooo we'll see :popcorn2:
If I knew for sure that the AMD fit that much better then I would spend the money, we have a local dealer for for AMD but he charges almost the same price as with shipping, plus he doesn't stock that much AMD metal.
I don't have firsthand experience with either but I've read enough comments here from folks that have worked with both and AMD appears to be the winner hands down.
The Boy's use AMD and that would be enough for me to spend the extra money vs. struggling with inferior product quality.
The AMD sheet metal is so nice to work with that it isn't worth the trouble.
68LS1
11-30-2014, 09:54 PM
I fitted AMD quarters to my 70 Camaro, body work guy was very impressed with the fit
Rick D
12-01-2014, 05:25 AM
A penny saved is pound foolish in this case.... AMD is the far better product.
If you posses more skill than money go for the cheap stuff.
But nothing eats up more time and moral like an ill fitting part. You may save $150-200 but you'll be doing about 3 hours of extra work. The problem areas are the trunk gap and tail panel transition.
Hope to see it in primer soon.
I don't have firsthand experience with either but I've read enough comments here from folks that have worked with both and AMD appears to be the winner hands down.
The Boy's use AMD and that would be enough for me to spend the extra money vs. struggling with inferior product quality.
I fitted AMD quarters to my 70 Camaro, body work guy was very impressed with the fit
Ok ok ok I'll get the stinkin AMD qtr wow tuff crowd :D :D :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :action-smiley-027: :action-smiley-027: :action-smiley-027: :action-smiley-027: :action-smiley-027:
ccracin
12-01-2014, 06:02 AM
I vote buy the crappiest panel you can find. How else are you going to develop those skills and fill your tool box with all the new tools you need to make it work? Just Sayin! :underchair: :underchair: Ask me how I came up with that! :poke:
Rick D
12-01-2014, 03:40 PM
I vote buy the crappiest panel you can find. How else are you going to develop those skills and fill your tool box with all the new tools you need to make it work? Just Sayin! :underchair: :underchair: Ask me how I came up with that! :poke:
Well Chad as I've been doing this for 25 plus years now I think my most used statement holds true here "Smarter NOT Harder" :knokwood:
Plus if I buy anymore tools I won't have any room for the car to get worked on!! :thumbsup:
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