Not a Trans Am...

[Streetking]

Well in my search for another Trans AM, I came upon this car, a GTO. I never thought about owning one, but the car looks so nice, I had to have it. It's in Hawaii right now and should be here in about 3 weeks, which gives me plenty of time to get a few parts on the way:) I think I am going to leave this one pretty much like it is except for a few tweaks. I think this will be a perfect car for my fiancée to drive. Btw, I did pick up a sweet '72 Trans AM. I have been chasing this car for 4 years. I will post up some pics when it arrives..here are a couple of pics I got. This is a '70 GTO Judge with factory air, power windows, power locks, tilt wheel, reclining passenger seat and rear defogger..
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[CornHusker4Life]

Damn, I am Jealous. Leave some cars for the rest of us to buy:snapout:

[68FBODY]

Looks quite nice really! Are you leaving it as is, what "tweaks"?

[Shmoov69]

Damn, I am Jealous. Leave some cars for the rest of us to buy:snapout:

I'm pretty sure he'll sell them to us if we want!! LOL!!

Awesome car SW, I've always loved the Judges!!

[68LS1]

Lucky girl :thumbsup:

Do Recaro make a Baby seat?

[tones2SS]

That is a gorgeous car. If she doesn't want it,....I'll take it! lol

[Ron in SoCal]

Lucky girl :thumbsup:

Do Recaro make a Baby seat?

As a matter of fact they do!

[fleetus macmullitz]

1970...when GM's engines grew nicely to 454/455. :cool:

[Rick D]

Well that doesn't suck! Nice pick up SW :hello: at this rate we are going to have to call you Charlie of Texas!! I say send it to DSE and have it built to a nice PT car???:king:

[Stuart Adams]

That is nice. Not easy being you..

[Streetking]

Looks quite nice really! Are you leaving it as is, what "tweaks"?

A little lower, 17" wheels..

Lucky girl :thumbsup:

Do Recaro make a Baby seat?

Yes they do!!

Thanks guys, no DSE on this one..:)

[Greg from Aus]

It's great to see such a diversified collection that you are putting together. Look out Charlie.

[Streetking]

It's great to see such a diversified collection that you are putting together. Look out Charlie.

Hahaha, Charlie is my hero, I will never have the cars he has.

you had me at the 8track. lol

you forgot hood tach!

[Che70velle]

Streetking, the GTO Judge came with a 12 bolt rear end. The rear end pictured above is a 10 bolt. Not a huge deal, just hope its been changed, and your not buying a clone car, from a seller who didn't quite tell you everything.
It's a beauty, none the less!
1970 was the first year that Pontiac put a 12 bolt rear in, from my research.

[Shmoov69]

I noticed the rear and thought the same thing, but wasn't for sure so I didn't say anything bout it.

[Streetking]

Streetking, the GTO Judge came with a 12 bolt rear end. The rear end pictured above is a 10 bolt. Not a huge deal, just hope its been changed, and your not buying a clone car, from a seller who didn't quite tell you everything.
It's a beauty, none the less!
1970 was the first year that Pontiac put a 12 bolt rear in, from my research.

It's a 400 ci auto w/ air and 3:23 gears it has a 10 bolt. The later cars and 455 ci motors came with 12 bolts and 4 speed cars. I did a search on Performance years and just talked to the previous owner..

[FETorino]

It's a 400 ci auto w/ air and 3:23 gears it has a 10 bolt. The later cars and 455 ci motors came with 12 bolts and 4 speed cars. I did a search on Performance years and just talked to the previous owner..

That 10 bolt is a Pontiac spec and should not use c clips like the Chevy variant. I'm pretty sure at that time Pontiac did not offer a 12 bolt because their 10 bolt was just as durable.

That shifter is probably a slap stick style (or it should be) Pull it down in first and you should be able to just smack it to the right and it should shift up.

Does it have the ram air tub? Is the 400 a d port RA III or roundport RAIV either of those would be really cool.

[Rick D]

That 10 bolt is a Pontiac spec and should not use c clips like the Chevy variant. I'm pretty sure at that time Pontiac did not offer a 12 bolt because their 10 bolt was just as durable.

That shifter is probably a slap stick style (or it should be) Pull it down in first and you should be able to just smack it to the right and it should shift up.

Does it have the ram air tub? Is the 400 a d port RA III or roundport RAIV either of those would be really cool.

Wow Rob you seem to know an awful lot about Pontiac's??? :hello: Are we seeing more of your GM closet side?? :headscratch:

SW just kidding on the DSE, again very nice car congrats!!!

[Ummgawa]

SW, I can tell you from experience, who ever put that GTO back together knew their stuff. I have a 70 GTO vert, and let me tell you, I've never seen as many moving parts on a front clip (hood, fenders, endura, lower valence, etc.) as a 70 GTO. I had four Uncles who worked at the GM Lakewood plant where the GTO's, GS's, and Super Sport Chevelles (and bus chassis) were built.

I remember visiting the plant on "Orbit Orange" day, and as a ten year old, it was quite a sight to see up close.I had no idea I was looking at some really expensive cars (in future terms). I remember my Uncle Gordon's station, after all the fenders and hood and lower valence had been hung loosely, along with the endura bumper. His station was where all the stuff got it's final alignment. Here's the clincher. The tool they used to measure tolerances and gaps in the endura to fender, hood and lower valence was a business card. It had to slide tightly between all the joints, They could bust one through in about 25 seconds, with two other guys putting the final lock down on all the bolts holding that front end together. It looked like they were doing a well coordinated dance. It's quite a great memory.

The reason I say all that is I rarely see one with all it's joints fitting as tight as yours does. Especially on a Orbit Orange car. Great find and yes, auto RAIII cars did indeed come with 10 bolts. They are tough as a two dollar steak. I've owned a few GTO's and Judges and that's one component I never had an issue with, regardless of the burnouts I threw at it.

Great find. Looking forward to how you "SW" it up.

[fleetus macmullitz]

SW, I can tell you from experience, who ever put that GTO back together knew their stuff. I have a 70 GTO vert, and let me tell you, I've never seen as many moving parts on a front clip (hood, fenders, endura, lower valence, etc.) as a 70 GTO. I had four Uncles who worked at the GM Lakewood plant where the GTO's, GS's, and Super Sport Chevelles (and bus chassis) were built.

I remember visiting the plant on "Orbit Orange" day, and as a ten year old, it was quite a sight to see up close.I had no idea I was looking at some really expensive cars (in future terms). I remember my Uncle Gordon's station, after all the fenders and hood and lower valence had been hung loosely, along with the endura bumper. His station was where all the stuff got it's final alignment. Here's the clincher. The tool they used to measure tolerances and gaps in the endura to fender, hood and lower valence was a business card. It had to slide tightly between all the joints, They could bust one through in about 25 seconds, with two other guys putting the final lock down on all the bolts holding that front end together. It looked like they were doing a well coordinated dance. It's quite a great memory.

The reason I say all that is I rarely see one with all it's joints fitting as tight as yours does. Especially on a Orbit Orange car. Great find and yes, auto RAIII cars did indeed come with 10 bolts. They are tough as a two dollar steak. I've owned a few GTO's and Judges and that's one component I never had an issue with, regardless of the burnouts I threw at it.

Great find. Looking forward to how you "SW" it up.

Enjoyed your recollections of those days Jim. :thumbsup:

[Che70velle]

It's a 400 ci auto w/ air and 3:23 gears it has a 10 bolt. The later cars and 455 ci motors came with 12 bolts and 4 speed cars. I did a search on Performance years and just talked to the previous owner..


You are correct sir. I didn't realize this was a 400ci car. :underchair:
Beautiful car! Can't wait to see what you do to it. Be gentle.:thumbsup:

[RussMurco]

Ah, nice find, SW! It brings back memories of a high-school pal's car, a 1970 GTO 455. He had the darker orange with Judge stripes and the spoiler, but his wasn't a real Judge car, just a GTO. He still had it as of 1998, the last time I saw him. What a fun car that thing was!!! Enjoy it!!!

[chr2002ca]

Buy a car and just drive it. What a novel idea. :bang:

Many congrats on such a purchase. An awesome car. I'm a big Poncho fan. Had several 455 TA's in my time. I hope one day I get a chance to see your car collection in person. I'll bring my own towel to wipe off the drool and tears.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

awesome car.

[markss28]

Are there tickets we could buy or a drawing to enter to hang with you for a week? :knokwood:

[T_Raven]

I think I am going to leave this one pretty much like it is except for a few tweaks.

That's how it always starts lol. Good looking car

[Streetking]

Enjoyed your recollections of those days Jim. :thumbsup:

You are correct sir. I didn't realize this was a 400ci car. :underchair:
Beautiful car! Can't wait to see what you do to it. Be gentle.:thumbsup:

Ah, nice find, SW! It brings back memories of a high-school pal's car, a 1970 GTO 455. He had the darker orange with Judge stripes and the spoiler, but his wasn't a real Judge car, just a GTO. He still had it as of 1998, the last time I saw him. What a fun car that thing was!!! Enjoy it!!!

awesome car.

Are there tickets we could buy or a drawing to enter to hang with you for a week? :knokwood:

That's how it always starts lol. Good looking car

SW, I can tell you from experience, who ever put that GTO back together knew their stuff. I have a 70 GTO vert, and let me tell you, I've never seen as many moving parts on a front clip (hood, fenders, endura, lower valence, etc.) as a 70 GTO. I had four Uncles who worked at the GM Lakewood plant where the GTO's, GS's, and Super Sport Chevelles (and bus chassis) were built.

I remember visiting the plant on "Orbit Orange" day, and as a ten year old, it was quite a sight to see up close.I had no idea I was looking at some really expensive cars (in future terms). I remember my Uncle Gordon's station, after all the fenders and hood and lower valence had been hung loosely, along with the endura bumper. His station was where all the stuff got it's final alignment. Here's the clincher. The tool they used to measure tolerances and gaps in the endura to fender, hood and lower valence was a business card. It had to slide tightly between all the joints, They could bust one through in about 25 seconds, with two other guys putting the final lock down on all the bolts holding that front end together. It looked like they were doing a well coordinated dance. It's quite a great memory.

The reason I say all that is I rarely see one with all it's joints fitting as tight as yours does. Especially on a Orbit Orange car. Great find and yes, auto RAIII cars did indeed come with 10 bolts. They are tough as a two dollar steak. I've owned a few GTO's and Judges and that's one component I never had an issue with, regardless of the burnouts I threw at it.

Great find. Looking forward to how you "SW" it up.

Great story! Thanks!

Buy a car and just drive it. What a novel idea. :bang:

Many congrats on such a purchase. An awesome car. I'm a big Poncho fan. Had several 455 TA's in my time. I hope one day I get a chance to see your car collection in person. I'll bring my own towel to wipe off the drool and tears.

Thanks guys, I am stoked about this car. Been doing a lot of reading about GTO's. My little lady is very excited about it also. She just asked me not to make it "undrivable" LOL..

[Ummgawa]

Thanks guys, I am stoked about this car. Been doing a lot of reading about GTO's. My little lady is very excited about it also. She just asked me not to make it "undrivable" LOL..

Just do an "SW" treatment on it. It'll be wicked.

[V8TV]

Enjoyed your recollections of those days Jim. :thumbsup:


Great car SW! Cool story Jim! And you're right... to get an original endura nose to fit today is a real pain. I have a friend with a '70 and it took 3 noses to even come close.

Congrats!

[Gearhead]

OMG.:drool: One of my dream cars. Congrats on the awesome ride!