View Full Version : 2 Piece Main 383 to LT1 T56 Need help Fast!
NorCal72
05-14-2013, 08:29 AM
If I get the Flywheel that mates the early SBC's to the LT1 T56 I would end up running the LT1 clutch setup correct? Im in a bind because Im trying to snag a tranny/clutch setup in the next hour or so off flea bay. If the LT1 RXT clutch will fit my application I'm going to drop the hammer on it. Thanks in advance, Kevin
camcojb
05-14-2013, 09:13 AM
With the conversion flywheel a standard small block clutch and disc (26 spline) can be used.
NorCal72
05-14-2013, 09:22 AM
With the conversion flywheel a standard small block clutch and disc (26 spline) can be used.
Thanks for the response. So the early style (2 piece) SBC and the LT1 clutch will bolt up the same to the conversion flywheel? I know it needs to be the 26 spline. Forgive my ignorance, I just don't have the experience with the manual setups.
camcojb
05-14-2013, 09:37 AM
Thanks for the response. So the early style (2 piece) SBC and the LT1 clutch will bolt up the same to the conversion flywheel? I know it needs to be the 26 spline. Forgive my ignorance, I just don't have the experience with the manual setups.
Yes, with a conversion flywheel like the Centerforce 183-700107 They are the smaller 153 tooth ring gear so a starter swap might also be needed depending on which starter you have now.
NorCal72
05-14-2013, 09:51 AM
Great, thanks again Jody!
rchaskin
05-14-2013, 01:46 PM
You must use LT1 style clutch.
93-97 Camaro Only.
WSSix
05-14-2013, 06:43 PM
You might be able to change the bellhousing out to use a normal style clutch but the factory LT1 bellhousing only works with a LT1 style pull clutch because the bellhousing itself holds the hydraulic slave.
Check with quicktime on the bellhousing. They do a lot of conversion bell housings.
Don't let any of this stop you though. Putting an LT1 T56 behind a Gen I SBC is a great idea. The trans is strong and will only get stronger from a rebuild.
NorCal72
05-14-2013, 08:18 PM
Thanks for the replys. I have already decided that Im going to go with a SFI approved scatter shield. The tranny will be used on a boosted application. Is there any significant difference in strength between the LT/LS T56? Im really trying to figure out if a good low mileage T56 is the way to go. I might just pony up and spent the extra 1000-1500 on a new magnum.
MarkM66
05-15-2013, 03:13 AM
What hp?
I'm thinking you'll want the magnum.
NorCal72
05-15-2013, 06:41 AM
What hp?
I'm thinking you'll want the magnum.
Haven't got it on the dyno yet. Depending on the boost level, I'm going to say all of 600hp. Its the V2 Vortec, its pretty damn efficient so I am thinking it will be a 150hp bolt on when its all said and done, at least. Im not sure what the tq. curve will do with a charger?
I have no problem spending the money up front if the magnum is that much better? I believe the Magnums are rated to 700hp/700tq. What are the LS/LT T56's rated to?
Thanks, Kevin
WSSix
05-15-2013, 08:48 PM
stock, many people will argue which is stronger, LS or LT T56. If you're going to rebuild or upgrade, it doesn't matter. They are very similar transmissions on the inside. Both will handle your power levels with the blower unless you're planning to drag race the car and launch hard with sticky tires.
The LT T56 will bolt to an SBC easier than the LS version since the bellhousing is a more integral design on LS version.
The only other thing to consider and research are the different gear ratios/models of T56s. 93 had two different T56s available with one having a lower first gear. Not easy to find any more I bet but might be worth the hunt. LS versions have the MM6 and M12. The 6 was found in fbodies with the M12 in GTOs and maybe CTSv. M12 had lower first gear and lower 2nd overdrive. You'll have to take into consideration the funky shifters on the GTO and CTSv versions though. I'm willing to bet that any normal LT T56 will work just fine for you and be the easiest to install with the conversion bellhousing. That's the route I would take.
NorCal72
05-16-2013, 07:12 AM
This is exactly the kind of information I've been looking for. It honestly scares the **** out of me to count on a vendor to know exactly what I need. Any recommendations on a "one stop shop" for everything Im going to need for the swap. Im considering Hurst and Kiesler at the moment. With me being overseas so much I pretty much have one shot to get it right or I will be delaying the build 3-4 months. I need to have this thing on the road by the end of the year. As I sit right now Im waiting to here back from a member here with a LT-T56, if that pans out I'll be going that route. If not I think I'll be getting a Magnum. Thanks again for the reply's this site has been a great help.
camcojb
05-16-2013, 07:16 AM
Hurst has had great feedback from customers. Some others have not.
NorCal72
05-16-2013, 08:04 AM
Hurst has had great feedback from customers. Some others have not.
Got it! Thanks a lot for telling me about your front sub LOL. I was always planning on dropping my current front clip under the 57' truck. I think you just sped up the timeline considerably. :G-Dub:
WSSix
05-16-2013, 05:39 PM
Not sure on a one stop source for everything. Your situation kind of changes things really. The only thing I can think would be to research everything needed and get the miscellaneous parts ordered from you favorite vendor. Putting an LT T56 behind a two piece gen 1 SBC is nothing new. Nastyz28.com I bet has a guide for doing the conversion.
Tempstop
05-16-2013, 07:26 PM
Let me know if you go the LT t-56. I have a Centerforce flywheel I bought exactly for this application that I never used. It has never been installed--but it has a lot of surface rust from sitting around the last 15 years.
Tim
NorCal72
05-16-2013, 10:32 PM
Looks like I got the LT1 T56. It came with the conversion flywheel so I wont need one, thanks though. Hopefully it holds up! Thanks again everyone for the help. Im sure there will be plenty more questions lol
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