Boston marathon

[frankv11]

Condolences and prayers to all those affected by this cowardly act. So sad to see all of those innocent people who perished and the ones that survived have they're lives scarred for ever. It is truly just horrific to think that this can happen anywhere at any point.

As of now it seems the origin of the terrorists is unknown whether domestic or foreign but I say cancel all student visas from Middle East. We as citizen have to do our part and stay alert and vigilant when out especially at events such as these, and stop bitching and complainting about security point measures. I'm personally all for more security especially at airports.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Yes, Prayers to the fallen and injured.

No, on the student Visa's idea. Its like anything else, If criminals want to do something they will find a way. Don't put restrictions on honest people and deprive this country of its ability to expand minds.

"We maybe free but evil feeds us fear and we embrace it".

I think there will be a need for appologies after the truth come out.

[Spiffav8]

Condolences and prayers to all those affected by this cowardly act. So sad to see all of those innocent people who perished and the ones that survived have they're lives scarred for ever. It is truly just horrific to think that this can happen anywhere at any point.

As of now it seems the origin of the terrorists is unknown whether domestic or foreign but I say cancel all student visas from Middle East. We as citizen have to do our part and stay alert and vigilant when out especially at events such as these, and stop bitching and complainting about security point measures. I'm personally all for more security especially at airports.

Not to sound rude, but that's life. There are dangers and evil everywhere. They are cloaked in camouflage and hidden in shadows. Reality says you can't prevent them all.

More security isn't the answer. It might make you feel safer, but it's not the answer. Airport security is a joke! It keeps out guns, knifes, etc like a chain link fence keeps the wind out. If you only knew the kind of crap that gets found on airliners.

If people really want positive results, they are going to have to tolerate profiling and some door kicking. Americans don't want that though and say it's not fair.

Enough said

[Sieg]

Agreed Curtis.

Consider the amount of security the Boston Marathon had in place....at least from what I've seen on video it was a big number. Public safety cannot deliver at the level they market themselves and thus people have a false sense of personal safety. Respectfully, maybe this is the event that will change the sheep's perception of public and personal safety.

[GregWeld]

I'm sure that Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein will co-sponsor a bill to outlaw bombs of all kinds.



I'm truly sorry for those affected... this shouldn't happen to anyone. Ever. I don't think any normal thinking human could understand why someone would want to do stuff like this.

[Streetking]

I'm sure that Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein will co-sponsor a bill to outlaw bombs of all kinds.



I'm truly sorry for those affected... this shouldn't happen to anyone. Ever. I don't think any normal thinking human could understand why someone would want to do stuff like this.

These people are not normal thinking humans. I am all about fair trials ect., but when we find these people, they should lock them up in a house somewhere and tell them there is a bomb that may go off at anytime, let them live in fear for a while...

[frankv11]

Yes, Prayers to the fallen and injured.

No, on the student Visa's idea. Its like anything else, If criminals want to do something they will find a way. Don't put restrictions on honest people and deprive this country of its ability to expand minds.

"We maybe free but evil feeds us fear and we embrace it".

I think there will be a need for appologies after the truth come out.

I know the whole visa it's not by any means the right measure and will never happen but if just seems like every time something like this happens it was a student on a foreign visa. Its tough job to be politically correct and take on an issue such is this. I love that this country welcomes all and is what makes us strong.
There are always nut cases out there ( Connecticut , Colorado theater , mcveigh ) that will find a way. it's just happening more often than ever. Any small measure is another step in the right direction.
I'm personally not US born but now a US citizen, been through the profiling etc side if it. on a recent trip I was stopped three different times during my trip and pretty much stripped searched. I was completely ok with it I see the big picture.




If people really want positive results, they are going to have to tolerate profiling and some door kicking. Americans don't want that though and say it's not fair.
X2 on that
There is no right measure or easy answer to this problem, as far as security nothing is 100% But I would agree more is better.

Enough said[/QUOTE]

[intocarss]

Prayers sent to all involved!! I'll keep my mouth shut on what should be done to whoever these chicken s**t low life cowards that did this are, but gasoline a tire and matches come to mind

[transam]

Its a tough call, terrorists will find a way, metaphorically the government might prefer them coming through the front door where they can be documented and tracked/screened,rather than climbing through the windows and roof and digging under etc.

[hifi875]

I'm sure that Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein will co-sponsor a bill to outlaw bombs of all kinds.



I'm truly sorry for those affected... this shouldn't happen to anyone. Ever. I don't think any normal thinking human could understand why someone would want to do stuff like this.

Obama and them will devise a government program to make garbage cans safer. They will have to have a bomb proof rating and you will have to pay a tax to get them analyzed, then you can take them home.

Its hard to stop a determined individual or individuals from doing something like this, especially in the U.S. where our freedoms are paramount.

[Bucketlist2012]

Until we know more on who did this, speculating on who did this is well......:headspin:

No rational Human would do this because they would not want it done to them or their loved ones...

This is the world nowdays...Sad for those involved and killed or injured...

But to jump to conclusions based on "media" reporting ? a.k.a. Student Visa is not right...


Let the investigation play out first...

[dug]

Until we know more on who did this, speculating on who did this is well......:headspin:

No rational Human would do this because they would not want it done to them or their loved ones...

This is the world nowdays...Sad for those involved and killed or injured...

But to jump to conclusions based on "media" reporting ? a.k.a. Student Visa is not right...


Let the investigation play out first...

I agree 100%.

[Sieg]

Let the investigation play out first...Hopefully better than the Benghazi incident.

[Tony_SS]

Hopefully better than the Benghazi incident.

Don't hold yer breath.

[chevguy]

Prayers sent to all involved!! I'll keep my mouth shut on what should be done to whoever these chicken s**t low life cowards that did this are, but gasoline a tire and matches come to mind

I agree with this post on my sorrow for those involved and I`ll provide any necessary tires.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Not to sound rude, but that's life. There are dangers and evil everywhere. They are cloaked in camouflage and hidden in shadows. Reality says you can't prevent them all.

More security isn't the answer. It might make you feel safer, but it's not the answer. Airport security is a joke! It keeps out guns, knifes, etc like a chain link fence keeps the wind out. If you only knew the kind of crap that gets found on airliners.

If people really want positive results, they are going to have to tolerate profiling and some door kicking. Americans don't want that though and say it's not fair.

Enough said

Security everywhere is a joke. Like I said before criminals will find a way. A security guard will just be the first casualty.

What we need is ordinary people to be vigilant and accept that this is a violent world we live in. Just being a US citizen makes you a target.

Profiling and storm trooper door kicking is never the answer. Tax paid criminals with a badge is a very bad idea.

All the government has to do is lable you as a terrorist and sick the IRS on you.

[coolwelder62]

Interesting video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=axQtAFtmtVA

[Tony_SS]

Tomorrow is the anniversary of the OKC bombing and Waco attack... just FYI.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Tomorrow is the anniversary of the OKC bombing and Waco attack... just FYI.

yeah, they say that April is a deadly month but who know, plus Waco was an FBI deal. FUBAR planning and leadership at the time.

Speaking of poor planning and leadership...I can't believe how the media is FUBAR-ING all the information which could potentially screw up investigations and prosecution.

Ive already heard the black duffle bag being referenced as an assult bag. PLEASE!!!

[John510]

Interesting video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=axQtAFtmtVA


maybe they were warned but didnt tell the public?

[NOPANTS68]

Looks like it was two brothers originally from Chechen. One is dead, the 19 year old is on the run. He had better hope the FBI finds him before Bostonians do. Those folks don't play.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Looks like it was two brothers originally from Chechen. One is dead, the 19 year old is on the run. He had better hope the FBI finds him before Bostonians do. Those folks don't play.

suicide vest and striped jogging suit.....should have known.

I thought the uncle was gonna lay down a few reality slaps on those reporters.

[Bucketlist2012]

suicide vest and striped jogging suit.....should have known.

I thought the uncle was gonna lay down a few reality slaps on those reporters.

Boy that interview with the Uncle got to me....You could see the pain and heartbreak ...He is sad and very angry..

And the reporters are vultures..

[hectore3]

Looks like it was two brothers originally from Chechen. One is dead, the 19 year old is on the run. He had better hope the FBI finds him before Bostonians do. Those folks don't play.

No sir, we don't play at all.

[Sieg]

Immigrant teenager eludes heavily equipped and armed grown-ups and locks down major US city. Seriously? #2ndamendmentrights

[96z28ss]

I'm from MA and have family all over and have 5 cousins in Boston. Its surreal,
the city was shut down, very few people on the road and no one walking the streets. Everyone in Boston wanted this guy caught.
Have you seen the video of the gun fight. It was like a war zone.

[intocarss]

2nd bomber found and down but still alive

http://live.foxnews.com/#/1155606219001

[Sieg]

He better live and be water-boarded.

How many cops and equipment does it take to catch a 19 year old? So many that they trip all over themselves and lose contact in the first daylight encounter?

[garickman]

He better live and be water-boarded.

How many cops and equipment does it take to catch a 19 year old? So many that they trip all over themselves and lose contact in the first daylight encounter?

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been involved in something like this?

[intocarss]

They got him alive in custody

[Ron in SoCal]

Got him!! :animated_bye_bye_em

[intocarss]

His dad and aunt said he/they didn't do it..They were framed!!! :ohsnap: :hairpullout:

[waynieZ]

If I was the father of that little boy and his sister and wife I would be looking for a way to get in the hospital and take his legs with a dull AXE

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Greg, taken without Miranda rights given? Couldn't this have implications in his trial?

[Sieg]

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been involved in something like this?
Reasonably close daily interaction with LEO's for 15+ years and a few SWAT call-outs and exercises, yes. LEO employment no.

[garickman]

Greg, taken without Miranda rights given? Couldn't this have implications in his trial?

Miranda rights do not have to be read the moment a suspect is taken into custody. They only need to be read when the suspect is subject to a custodial interrogation. Just because they have not read this monster his rights yet doesn't mean they won't. But it sounds like they are going to use the Public Safety Exception in which Miranda does not apply. It can be a pretty slippery slope but trust me, no one knows how to use this better than the feds.

[hectore3]

Reasonably close daily interaction with LEO's for 15+ years and a few SWAT call-outs and exercises, yes. LEO employment no.

I actually was in the search and was at the Marathon earlier and saw the craziness. From the bombing to capture took less than a week. Excellent by any measure sir.

[Ron in SoCal]

Excellent police work for sure. But....really dude? We're all Americans here.

We want the same thing.

This is an internet forum, ya know? We discuss stuff like this. Learn from each other. At times share a little grief.

You and Greg are experts for sure, but Sieg gets a pass on this one.

And thank you for your service.

[garickman]

Excellent police work for sure. But....really dude? We're all Americans here.

We want the same thing.

This is an internet forum, ya know? We discuss stuff like this. Learn from each other. At times share a little grief.

You and Greg are experts for sure, but Sieg gets a pass on this one.

And thank you for your service.

I agree Ron, that was a little harsh but given the emotions of those directly involved in this tragedy, I can understand where hectore3 is coming from. I have been involved in some pretty high profile cases and some very intense door to door searches and what those police departments and those federal agencies did from April 15th through April 19th was absolutely amazing. People who are not directly involved in Law Enforcement may never fully understand what it took to bring this case to where it is now. My hat goes off to those first responders who put their lives in harms way to help others and my heart goes out to the victims who's lives will forever be altered.

[Ron in SoCal]

Greg you know me, somewhat. This was an American tragedy. Those fockers got what they deserved (Wayne might diagree just a teeny bit :D )

We're saying the same thing. You guys that put your lives on the line for us, man no words can explain all our gratitude.

:flag2:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Gotta admit that was out of line. These guys did a tough job and got it done.

[Sieg]

Well then shut the f*ck up. I actually was in the search and was at the Marathon earlier and saw the craziness. Arm chair folks like you are a dime a dozen. From the bombing to capture took less than a week. Excellent by any measure sir.

Sorry if I offended, it was a poor choice of words. I too saw the craziness, just from a different perspective. When so many resources are deployed into an area reaction time is compromised.

[garickman]

Sorry if I offended, it was a poor choice of words. I too saw the craziness, just from a different perspective. When so many resources are deployed into an area reaction time is compromised.

Not necessarily a poor choice of words but perhaps your original question should have read something more like;

How many cops and equipment does it take to catch a 19 year old mass murderer who is hell bent on death and destruction armed with an assault rifle and multiple IED's and shows that he is willing to do anything to get away, including car jacking an innocent man, gunning down an unsuspecting police officer, throwing home made bombs at the responding officers, running over and dragging his own brother 30 feet down the road, effectively shut down an entire city, conduct a massive 20 square block door to door search and respond to over 100 tips and possible sighting of the suspect during the manhunt?

I think you will find the answer would be ALL OF THEM!

[Cole]

Sieg, :shakehead:

[intocarss]

DON'T SWEAT IT SIEG, WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE A GREAT GUY AND DIDN'T MEAN TO OFFEND ANYONE

Gota admit I'm having flashbacks of YelloowBullet lolol :flag2:

[Flash68]

As a civilian, I was extremely impressed with how the process played out from Monday to Friday. Congratulations and thank you to all involved. :thumbsup:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

They were not messing around.

[Spiffav8]

Keep it civil kids. DON'T MAKE ME COME IN HERE!!

:guns:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Keep it civil kids. DON'T MAKE ME COME IN HERE!!

:guns: LOL, too late....I just noticed you are a mod....I was going to tell you to **** off. LOL :getout: :mock:

i think its cool. Just a misunderstanding and the common "thoughts into type" jumble.

[fleetus macmullitz]

As a civilian, I was extremely impressed with how the process played out from Monday to Friday. Congratulations and thank you to all involved. :thumbsup:

Well said and I totally agree.


Keep it civil kids. DON'T MAKE ME COME IN HERE!!

:guns:

You know you want to.

:lol:

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[intocarss]

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