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camcojb
04-08-2013, 06:52 PM
Final episode just played, replays Friday I believe. I like the show, and hope it's on for next season. Cool seeing people I know personally on TV. :thumbsup:

IndyNova
04-08-2013, 07:44 PM
I love the show, but wish they'd make some changes. It's be cool if the did a autocross, road course, drag race set up as opposed to the format now. I also think it'd be good if they went to different tracks. Jmo. I absolutely love watching the muscle kick the imports ass

Rybar
04-08-2013, 11:11 PM
I like it too, I think its funny when both sides make fun of each other. The closer more evenly matched races have been the best to watch. I havent seen them all but feel bad for Bill Howell he's messed up almost every race I've seen him run.

tazzz2_ca
04-09-2013, 06:43 AM
I like it too, I think its funny when both sides make fun of each other. The closer more evenly matched races have been the best to watch. I havent seen them all but feel bad for Bill Howell he's messed up almost every race I've seen him run.

Billy didn't have old tried and true out for the most part and while season one wasn't his best showing,,, we hope to have a season two and you know he'll be on it for that... We all just hope the network agrees that the show is worth renewing and the more we can push it on our own personal social media the better....

BBC71Nova
04-09-2013, 08:01 AM
Didn't realize that was the last episode. Bummer.

Admittedly I had serious doubts when I saw the previews and first heard about it. I ended up liking the show though and was pleasantly surprised. Thank goodness for Kyle Tucker and Finch though. Without those guys I think that American muscle would've been taken to the woodshed more often than not :confused59: . Often times the others didn't keep it on the track.

I also found the show a little eye opening. Here we spend way too much money on these old cars in an attempt to get them to perform. Then you watch that show and see cars very similar to most of ours - if not more serious builds - go out and get beat by some late model 4/6 cylinder running 225mm tires. Certainly driver skills is a large part of it but those guys have/get more track time than I'd guess most of us ever will.

I don't know. Just a little different perspective after seeing these cars go head-to-head with modern cars.

camcojb
04-09-2013, 08:07 AM
Didn't realize that was the last episode. Bummer.

Admittedly I had serious doubts when I saw the previews and first heard about it. I ended up liking the show though and was pleasantly surprised. Thank goodness for Kyle Tucker and Finch though. Without those guys I think that American muscle would've been taken to the woodshed more often than not :confused59: . Often times the others didn't keep it on the track.

I also found the show a little eye opening. Here we spend way too much money on these old cars in an attempt to get them to perform. Then you watch that show and see cars very similar to most of ours - if not more serious builds - go out and get beat by some late model 4/6 cylinder running 225mm tires. Certainly driver skills is a large part of it but those guys have/get more track time than I'd guess most of us ever will.

I don't know. Just a little different perspective after seeing these cars go head-to-head with modern cars.I agree, but that track is fairly small and tight which makes it more competitive for the imports. If it was a larger road course I think the muscle cars would have more of an advantage. Although I'd like to see this on a larger track it's probably better that it's done how it is to keep it interesting.

The final race with Kyle Tucker was the best one I've seen. It replays Friday.

NOPANTS68
04-09-2013, 08:16 AM
I agree Jody. Kyle vs the S2000 was a hell of a race. There was another episode with the Year One Bullit Mustang vs something that was also a hell of a match as well. AWD and a turbo do a lot of damage on a small track like that. Ken Squire makes me laugh. I can only hope we get a season two.

syborg tt
04-09-2013, 09:06 AM
My daughters and I watch the show and even watch the re-runs.

I'm a car guy and I like imports as much as I like American made stuff. I especially like when skinny tire cars do just as well as the big old fatty's that most people are putting on the old cars.

RussMurco
04-09-2013, 09:27 AM
I'd like to see a second season too! I was really questioning the idea (and being a "suthin boy" the "redneck" label is a little irritating) but the show was fun to watch!



The final race with Kyle Tucker was the best one I've seen. It replays Friday.

I could have sworn Kyle bumped the "english muffin's" rear on that last lap!

RussMurco
04-09-2013, 09:34 AM
I also found the show a little eye opening. Here we spend way too much money on these old cars in an attempt to get them to perform. Then you watch that show and see cars very similar to most of ours - if not more serious builds - go out and get beat by some late model 4/6 cylinder running 225mm tires. Certainly driver skills is a large part of it but those guys have/get more track time than I'd guess most of us ever will.

I don't know. Just a little different perspective after seeing these cars go head-to-head with modern cars.

Yeah, those exact same thoughts went through my head as well... Then again, 40-years worth of ABS, traction-control, AWD systems, and suspension design advances in general SHOULD be pretty hard to beat!

If you're bummed that a $100K PT got got spanked by a late-model turbocharged, all-wheel-drive wonder just think about what Nissan or Audi spent to make it happen! lol

OLDFLM
04-09-2013, 09:35 AM
I agree with everything said so far... makes me really wonder about my car and my driving abilities... or the lack thereof! LOL

My wife said, how do you know all these guy's on TV again? :lateral:

And then asked when I was going to get my car on the show... :poke:

I'm really hoping for another season! Good luck guys! Great show imho! :thumbsup:

RussMurco
04-09-2013, 10:23 AM
My wife said, how do you know all these guy's on TV again? :lateral:

And then asked when I was going to get my car on the show... :poke:


I swear, I had those exact same questions Monday night! "Who's Albert? How do you know Kyle? Why is Bill in the sand again?" :poke:
:lmao:

southsidehacker
04-09-2013, 11:01 AM
The show is pathetic and I feel my intelligence has been challenged for the entire half hour. Kyle Tucker's camaro barely beats out a s2000 with minor bolt ons gimme a break!!! Knife to a gunfight ...... Surprise the guy with the gun wins! Far too much, made for TV, unbelievable fluff on this show. Hope it improves or suffers the same fate as pinks!

Sieg
04-09-2013, 11:30 AM
The show is pathetic and I feel my intelligence has been challenged for the entire half hour. Kyle Tucker's camaro barely beats out a s2000 with minor bolt ons gimme a break!!! Knife to a gunfight ...... Surprise the guy with the gun wins! Far too much, made for TV, unbelievable fluff on this show. Hope it improves or suffers the same fate as pinks!

Sorry you're having a bad day...........

Bill Howell
04-09-2013, 11:36 AM
Funny read guys.
Here are a few thoughts.
1. Remember, this is a 30 minute, no wait, with commercials about 21 minute show, so hard to work in much more content, such as autocross, drag, etc. There is so much we did at the taping that never showed on the shows, so hard to add much content with the 21 time frame.
2. There were no do overs in the racing, which keeps it honest. If we screwed up, spun out, etc, we were out, just like in any competition. That said, I should have stuck with just the charger, not try and drive other cars.
3. My favorite two shows were the Audi wagon win and the pickup episode. Both showed how close the racing really was and both had enough humor to make it entertaining.
4. The humor between Jon Reep and Ken Squire was the best part of all shows to me.
5. Moving from track to track is very costly moving crews, filming, cars, equipment, so don't look for different tracks every show unless this really gets to be a huge hit.
6. CMP short track, which we ran, was very good in showing HP is not all that is needed to be good. For the minor advantage we had on the one long straight a way, we were very much disadvantaged in all the corners. It is much easier to turn 2000 pounds than 4000 pounds, just a fact of physics.
7.It is very hard to evenly match muscle cars with late model foreign cars. Either the muscle cars are much better or the euro cars are much better, hard to compare the two, but I feel Bud Greg and the team at BCII did a great job with what they had.

8. MOST IMPORTANT, all this is useless if we don't get a second season. I feel the shows got better as the season wore on, but it is hard to get a lot of gripe with just 8 shows. By the end of the season you were just really getting to know the players. I know we here had a bit of advantage being we knew most everyone, but think if you did not know us. Just barely enough time to start building characters. SO it is critical that we get one or two more seasons, just so all the above mentioned can be explained and worked out.


That said, it was a blast doing the series, we all had a ball and I for one certainly hope we do get season 2. Meanwhile, I am working on my driving, I don't want to be that guy next year..haha

syborg tt
04-09-2013, 11:45 AM
I am all in for a 2nd season. Heck I would even lend you guys my Camaro with a Bike Rack and a Bike mounted on the side. (ps I'm not driving I suck at it - just being honest)

On a side not will they be selling a DVD because I would really like one.

camcojb
04-09-2013, 11:56 AM
The show is pathetic and I feel my intelligence has been challenged for the entire half hour. Kyle Tucker's camaro barely beats out a s2000 with minor bolt ons gimme a break!!! Knife to a gunfight ...... Surprise the guy with the gun wins! Far too much, made for TV, unbelievable fluff on this show. Hope it improves or suffers the same fate as pinks!
Aren't you a little ray of sunshine.............. :lol:

RussMurco
04-09-2013, 12:09 PM
If we screwed up, spun out, etc, we were out, just like in any competition. That said, I should have stuck with just the charger, not try and drive other cars.

Bill, you've taken a lot of poking about that first turn sand trap and even had your man-card revoked! We all know jumping into a car cold and trying to get good numbers out of it had to be quite challenging so thanks for being so good humored about it!
:trophy-1302:

RussMurco
04-09-2013, 12:10 PM
Aren't you a little ray of sunshine.............. :lol:

8 years and 5 posts... He makes them count! :relax:

southsidehacker
04-09-2013, 12:24 PM
Sorry I didn't realize a higher post count validates someone's opinion. I'll get to work on patting everyone on the back for a job well done!

RussMurco
04-09-2013, 12:30 PM
Sorry I didn't realize a higher post count validates someone's opinion. I'll get to work on patting everyone on the back for a job well done!
Had nothing to do with your opinion, just your approach to forum interaction!
:D

syborg tt
04-09-2013, 12:33 PM
Sorry I didn't realize a higher post count validates someone's opinion. I'll get to work on patting everyone on the back for a job well done!

Doesn't bother me.

On a Side note the 65 Chevelle you guys built is still one of my Favorites.

http://image.chevyhiperformance.com/f/30281177/1103chp_02_o+1965_chevy_malibu+rear.jpg

southsidehacker
04-09-2013, 12:46 PM
You'll have to excuse my crass and poor fourm etiquette. Guess I've spent to much time on yellowbullet! Back on topic then.

I think there is definitely room in the tv market for a show showcasing pro touring terrors. I personally don't feel this show and its gimmick are really necessary. The problem is the mass market, couch potatoes need some sort of bs or backstory to stay involved. I'm guessing the majority of members and lurkers on this site would watch any show where pro touring cars were getting wrung out..... But would that be enough to keep it on the air?

WSSix
04-09-2013, 01:54 PM
You bring up a good point. Just look at the drama etc in all the other car shows and then look at our complaints about not being car oriented enough. While the show is on Speed, that doesn't mean it can survive without appealing to the masses. I honestly haven't seen an episode so I have no direct comment on the show beyond the general understanding of what it needs to survive, ie mass appeal. I just hope Bill and everyone else involved gets a second season out of it because it's cool to see car shows succeed especially when the cars kickass.

Steve Chryssos
04-09-2013, 01:59 PM
It's so much fun to watch. The Reep/Squire exchanges are priceless. I've never followed Reep, so this is a great way to get introduced to his talent and style of comedy.
I'm of the impression that the quality of the shows improved from one episode to the next. By the end of the season, the action had me on the edge of my seat. That means season two will be entirely awesome, as the producers apply their experience from season one.

I hope to see....
-- More cameras on track, so that we can get a better sense of a a full lap.
-- Just a little less redneck. I enjoyed the banter, but a like 10-15% reduction would leave a little more room for track time or car talk, and..
-- A better range and match up of cars like the Camaro S2000 pairing. That was good stuff and really put things in perspective. The S2000 -- small, nimble and with a very low center of gravity, excelled in the tight corners. The Camaro made up the time with muscle.

More of that, please :thumbsup:

Bill Howell
04-09-2013, 02:05 PM
You'll have to excuse my crass and poor fourm etiquette. Guess I've spent to much time on yellowbullet! Back on topic then.

I think there is definitely room in the tv market for a show showcasing pro touring terrors. I personally don't feel this show and its gimmick are really necessary. The problem is the mass market, couch potatoes need some sort of bs or backstory to stay involved. I'm guessing the majority of members and lurkers on this site would watch any show where pro touring cars were getting wrung out..... But would that be enough to keep it on the air?

First, I have very tough skin, so don't worry about hurting my feelings or me needing my back patted.
Second, I have a direct connection with the producer.
with that in mind, expound on your critic of the show and how you would "fix" it. I promise, they will see your reply.
Keep in mind, this is a 30 minute comedy show about real racing of us versus them. with that in mind, tell me your fix.

Sieg
04-09-2013, 06:52 PM
You'll have to excuse my crass and poor fourm etiquette. Guess I've spent to much time on yellowbullet! Back on topic then.

That explains why you walked in to someones master bedroom and crapped on their bed. :thumbsup:

I understand where you're coming from, I watch no traditional network TV because the content nauseates me. TV has been dumbed down to a point the programming must only appeal to medicated sheep.

At first I was disappointed with RU but started taking it with a grain of salt and the fact that at least they have decent performing cars and a little humor on the trash talk..............if the Redneck drivers could just understand that there is a tight corner at the end of the front straight. :D

southsidehacker
04-09-2013, 07:29 PM
Here are some of my suggestions....granted I don't know the feasability of some when I'm sure your working within tight budgets.

1. Less redneck! I understand the comedic angle but I've watched it for the cars. I haven't ever turned to speed network for humour in the past I personally wouldn't start now. (I wanted to take a jab at other garbage on the network but that's another story for another time maybe on a different fourm)

2. Mix up the cars, mix up the location, mix up the competition. Drag, autocross, 0-60-0, standing mile etc.

3. Even the playing field if possible, bring the equivalent of Detroit Speeds cars and drivers out for the import side. Finch is a hot shoe also. Surely there are import shops out there that would love the publicity.

IndyNova
04-09-2013, 07:33 PM
Although at times I though the show was ho-hum, I still dvr'd the season and enjoy watching the show. Gave me motivation to get my ass in the garage to work on my nova. I am surprised its on speed as I didn't realize they showed anything but taxi cab, ie nascar...lol I would like to see the show go to an hour and maybe open up time to maybe add an additional race or event. Either way, it's just my .02 which isn't worth much, and I'll continue to watch!