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will69camaro
01-22-2013, 05:22 AM
So I REALLY want to run new ZL1 brakes on my 69 camaro build. I have the DSE subframe and the DSE 9inch rear. I am told the V brakes will bolt onto the subframe (same as ZL1), however I'm curious about the rotor to use. Maybe verification on that also if I have been told incorrect information about the caliper fitting the subframe.
I know for the rear I need a bracket made to run the caliper, that shouldn't be that hard. There is someone working on one on Pro-touring that I have seen linked on here.
Does anyone have experience with V/ZL1 brakes on a detroit speed frame? I just want to see if there is information out there before I buy a set of calipers and measure for the rotor.
Car will be done with the chassis work soon, and then it's off to paint. I'm hoping to get brakes and wheels/tires for the car for when it returns from paint. They're "next" on my list of modifications to the car.
Thanks for the help guys!
William
RENN SCHNELL
01-22-2013, 07:16 AM
You'll need to make a bracket for the front to fit the ZL1 brakes/5th Gen brakes. I haven't heard of anyone that makes this yet, but it would be nice to have the option to use new Camaro brakes as they're very reasonable in price and have lots of brake pad options as well.
Keep us posted on what you find.
coolwelder62
01-22-2013, 10:17 AM
Give Tobin at Kore 3 a call.He is a brake Guru.If anybody know's how it's him.:thumbsup:
will69camaro
01-22-2013, 10:49 AM
So the calipers wont fit the subframe either? Man.
I was hoping Tobin would answer on here (thought he is a member). Currently overseas right now (due back soon so it can wait if no response from him). Really wanting to use them as they're an affordable alternative.
William
Ron in SoCal
01-22-2013, 11:04 AM
As I recall, from the posts over on PT the calipers will fit mounted to the spindles and rear end if you fab a correct bracket that centers the caliper over the rotor. Not sure if Tobin makes a bracket you can use.
I really dig the idea:
http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?79190-CTS-V-Brembo-6-piston-swap-on-a-1st-Gen&highlight=CTS
will69camaro
01-24-2013, 12:30 PM
Little digging around and I find that the ZL1 brakes are probably a no-go on the DSE sub. Not without work to make a bracket and finding a rotor that would work. Tobin@Kore3 and I have been chatting about options and possible alternatives.
Right now it looks as follows:
Wilwood - Cheapest
AP Racing - Arguably the best
Stoptech - Good prices, good reviews
Brembo GT- Value of the name but comes with HIGH cost
Who has experience with what all brakes? I sent a message to One Lap Camaro owner as he had AP racing on that car. Been talking to Tobin about Wilwoods as they're a vendor.
William
Sparks67
01-24-2013, 12:47 PM
Baer Extreme 6S works on the DSE subframe. I have that on my DSE subframe. Look in the parts classified, I think that I saw a set with the new Baer Floater kit.
Jeff
Bowtieracing
01-24-2013, 10:25 PM
How about zo6 brakes, cheap, good looking and easy to get.
Stuart Adams
01-25-2013, 09:46 AM
How much power you stopping?
will69camaro
01-25-2013, 10:39 AM
End goal will be 1000+ hp
Hoping it will make 8-900hp on pump/low boost. Will be a WHILE before I make that, but that's the expectation.
Operations
08-25-2013, 08:01 PM
So I REALLY want to run new ZL1 brakes on my 69 camaro build. I have the DSE subframe and the DSE 9inch rear. I am told the V brakes will bolt onto the subframe (same as ZL1), however I'm curious about the rotor to use. Maybe verification on that also if I have been told incorrect information about the caliper fitting the subframe.
I know for the rear I need a bracket made to run the caliper, that shouldn't be that hard. There is someone working on one on Pro-touring that I have seen linked on here.
Does anyone have experience with V/ZL1 brakes on a detroit speed frame? I just want to see if there is information out there before I buy a set of calipers and measure for the rotor.
Car will be done with the chassis work soon, and then it's off to paint. I'm hoping to get brakes and wheels/tires for the car for when it returns from paint. They're "next" on my list of modifications to the car.
Thanks for the help guys!
William
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