I need your Feedback!! Firebird Hood [Archive]

Speedster

03-24-2006, 01:30 PM

Hey -
Can you guys give me some opinions on which hood you prefer for this car. The only caveat is that if I use a 400 hood, it will have to be one of those "Super 400 hoods" from Spottsperformance.
Which one do you guys like better ?
Thanks a bunch. I really value your opinions. :)

Hdesign

03-24-2006, 01:33 PM

Bottom one, its more unique to pontiac. That Cowl Induction hood on the top one is gigantic. :thumbsup:

Smack_talker

03-24-2006, 01:49 PM

Bottom pic. :thumbsup:

130fe

03-24-2006, 02:02 PM

Bottom one looks better.

hotroddr

03-24-2006, 02:20 PM

C. none of the above

I have always wanted to see a firebird hood with cowl induction that looks like the stock hood just a little higher to make it functional. If not that then the second one. SWEET renderings by the way!!!

JUSTANOVA

03-24-2006, 02:20 PM

another vote for the bottom one.

Hooligan

03-24-2006, 02:56 PM

Bottom one :thumbsup:

Speedster

03-24-2006, 02:58 PM

Thanks for all of your responses. There are always so many variations when building a car, so it is nice to know what the people that actually do PT think.

Sales@Dutchboys

03-24-2006, 02:59 PM

Bottom one. Other would look good if it wasnt so big! :thumbsup:

jonny51

03-24-2006, 03:08 PM

No contest the bottom one is waaaay better looking!

Kris Horton

03-24-2006, 03:21 PM

I'm with the majority on this one. I didn't much care for the L-88 hood on this car. I might try a standard cowl or a stinger if Bruce is interested though!

Kris

Musclerodz

03-24-2006, 03:32 PM

Is that suppose to be a '69 GTO nose on a '69 Firebird?

I would go with the bottom one, but I prefer the T/A hood which is not one of your options.

Mike

Hdesign

03-24-2006, 05:32 PM

What about a Shaker hood from either a Gen 2 Firebird or Cuda?

Speedster

03-24-2006, 05:54 PM

What about a Shaker hood from either a Gen 2 Firebird or Cuda?

Larry Noble did that with a 1968 bird and it looked good. My problem is that I have a Hogan sheet metal intake that is quite long so I need a hood that has a longer strip of high clearance to go over it.

SickDesign

03-24-2006, 06:21 PM

In the majority, bottom one hands down :bow:

Top one doesn't seem to match the car, whereas the bottom one blends in with the lines of the car much better.

tndude

03-24-2006, 06:34 PM

bottom :thumbsup:

Hdesign

03-24-2006, 07:17 PM

Larry Noble did that with a 1968 bird and it looked good. My problem is that I have a Hogan sheet metal intake that is quite long so I need a hood that has a longer strip of high clearance to go over it.

AHHH....Gotcha! Are you looking for an off-the-shelf hood or are you open to fabbing something up? It could be an elongated version of a shaker hood, sort of like a cross between a shaker and cowl induction. Come to think of it, what about buying one of those patch cowl induction units and integrating it into the lower portion of a long air cleaner rather than the hood itself? You'd probably have to strengthen the underside of the hood since there'll be a big hole in it. Just thinking out loud. :)

Sales@Dutchboys

03-24-2006, 08:02 PM

AHHH....Gotcha! Are you looking for an off-the-shelf hood or are you open to fabbing something up? It could be an elongated version of a shaker hood, sort of like a cross between a shaker and cowl induction. Come to think of it, what about buying one of those patch cowl induction units and integrating it into the lower portion of a long air cleaner rather than the hood itself? You'd probably have to strengthen the underside of the hood since there'll be a big hole in it. Just thinking out loud. :)

Good idea.....

race-rodz

03-24-2006, 08:07 PM

bottom one...raise the center "hump" if needed

Hdesign

03-24-2006, 08:11 PM

Could have the intake just stick through the hood with some menacing looking velocity stacks. Alright, I need to stop brainstorming now....this is why I can never get to sleep. :D

Speedster

03-25-2006, 05:27 AM

Could have the intake just stick through the hood with some menacing looking velocity stacks. Alright, I need to stop brainstorming now....this is why I can never get to sleep. :D

Thanks for all of your ideas. Very creative mind. Part of the final decision will come down to time to completion. Schedule is getting VERY tight.

Speedster

03-25-2006, 05:44 AM

An idea that another member gave me:

My car originally came with the factory hood tach. If I moved it over to the new hood, it could not be the primary tach, since the whole instrument cluster is an integrated system (Autometer Nexus), but it would keep it in the Pontiac theme. That's a cool suggestion.

Hey Guys, what do you think about putting the factory hood tach on ?

Sales@Dutchboys

03-25-2006, 06:26 AM

That might look good if ya do it right.

boristheblade

03-25-2006, 11:10 AM

Bottom one- its unique and handsome, unlike the generic gigantic top one.

race-rodz

03-25-2006, 11:27 AM

hood tach pod is a yes, but maybe use a different gauge in it... like boost or fuel pressure or ??

Ummgawa

03-25-2006, 04:51 PM

No contest the bottom one is waaaay better looking!

Yea, what Brokeback Jonny said. Very Cool car. :thumbsup:

Roger Poirier

03-25-2006, 06:10 PM

Ok, lets get on to the rear spoiler. What are you using? Style? Repro or custom made?

R.P.

jonny51

03-25-2006, 06:18 PM

Yea, what Brokeback Jonny said. Very Cool car. :thumbsup:

Very funny "pup tent" Jimmy! :D

mopork

03-25-2006, 06:22 PM

the bottom one is much better :thumbsup:

SickDesign

03-25-2006, 07:51 PM

I like the hood tach idea, but I don't think it would look good with the bottom pic(which I chose as the better of the two pics)

I think that the tach(or whatever you use for a guage) would diminish the overall look and lines of the hood. Just my opinion though. If it doesn't serve a function, you don't need it :unibrow:

Speedster

03-25-2006, 07:56 PM

Ok, lets get on to the rear spoiler. What are you using? Style? Repro or custom made?
R.P.

I am re-using the factory rear spoiler that I have. It's in good condition. The car was orginally a 400 HO so it came with quite a few goodies.

Speedster

03-25-2006, 08:08 PM

Is that suppose to be a '69 GTO nose on a '69 Firebird?
I would go with the bottom one, but I prefer the T/A hood which is not one of your options.
Mike

Hey Mike -
Sorry I missed responding to your post. The grille is a combination of 68 Firebird and GTO. The lower valence panel, cowl and chin spoiler are one piece of carbon fiber. If we have time we are going to convert the modified 68 bumper to carbon fiber also.

Roger Poirier

03-26-2006, 01:36 PM

I am re-using the factory rear spoiler that I have. It's in good condition. The car was orginally a 400 HO so it came with quite a few goodies.

A factory Trans -Am spoiler would set that car off. To the moon Alice.....

I love spending other peoples money.

R.P.

Speedster

03-26-2006, 02:52 PM

A factory Trans -Am spoiler would set that car off. To the moon Alice.....
I love spending other peoples money.
R.P.

Do they make one narrow enought to fit the '68 and if so, who makes it ?

Roger Poirier

03-28-2006, 12:42 PM

Do they make one narrow enought to fit the '68 and if so, who makes it ?

I don't have an answer to your question. Check www.ponitaczone.com. They have a Firebird forum section listed. How are the 68 hidden headlight search going?

R.P.

Speedster

03-28-2006, 04:01 PM

I don't have an answer to your question. Check www.ponitaczone.com (http://www.ponitaczone.com). They have a Firebird forum section listed. How are the 68 hidden headlight search going?
R.P.
At this point we have taken two sets of Firebird Grilles (I already had one) and grafted them together. I feel that they will be too weak, so I am going to take the list you gave me and contact those people. Thanks again for sharing your experience/knowledge. :thumbsup:

Speedster

04-13-2006, 06:52 AM

Here are some new pics of the Freebird engine at Nelson Racing Engines.

We are going to run two different setups:

Street (91-93 octane) Low Boost, 83 lb/hr injectors, A1000 pump with Eliminator kicked on if needed. Devil's Own Alc/H20 injection.

Race (Race Gas) High Boost, 160 lb/hr injectors, A1000 & TEC3 controlled Eliminator.

907rs

04-13-2006, 06:57 AM

Right on, Bruce. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

XcYZ

04-13-2006, 07:28 AM

Beautiful. I wanna see video. :D

jonny51

04-13-2006, 07:50 AM

Very Nice,video would be cool!

Speedster

04-13-2006, 08:18 AM

Any of you guys know of a good video package that can compress/resample video to a lower resolution for posting ? The files I took with the camera are huge. (14 MB and 43 MB). Thanks.

XcYZ

04-13-2006, 08:27 AM

Bruce, I can take care of it for you if you can get me either a MiniDV or a VHS tape in the mail. :)

Speedster

04-13-2006, 09:48 AM

OK Scott. I am going to check with Nelson first to see what videos he has. He usually has them cut down to usable size.
Thanks.

Roger Poirier

04-14-2006, 12:41 PM

Speedster

04-14-2006, 02:20 PM

Are you kidding me? These guys are bick bucks! :hail: What are your general engine specs? R.P.

Hey Roger -
It's not been updated for a while, but click on "Project Freebird" here. It takes you to the members page that Scott made for me.

Speedster

04-14-2006, 02:33 PM

Hey Guys -
Thanks for all your feedback and comments. We're pretty happy with the engine combo. We were running it in the dyno room with open headers. Nothing like the sound of a screamin' V8. :D

BC69

04-14-2006, 04:06 PM

Thats a nice engine setup!!! More pics! :thumbsup:

Speedster

04-14-2006, 05:38 PM

Thats a nice engine setup!!! More pics! :thumbsup:

Here's a couple more pics. The one with Tom in it was taken around midnight. He was wiped getting everything hooked up. Gives you an idea of the scale.

69onmymind

04-16-2006, 12:20 AM

I agree the bottom one is unique to Firebirds. I'm casting my vote for the bottom one.

Joe

Sales@Dutchboys

04-16-2006, 04:38 PM

I know I allready posted my 02 but I think if you go the bottom one it will look a lot better the tall one sticks out I think i Kinda takes away from the car!
-Paul

Speedster

04-22-2006, 06:34 AM

Here is the 540 on the Nelson Dyno. Just a quick clip at idle.

http://www.lateral-g.org/movies/temp/HansonNREdyno.wmv

Thanks for the compression Scott !! :D

Sales@Dutchboys

04-22-2006, 08:06 AM

Sounds awsome!

linzbach

08-29-2007, 02:17 PM

Is it too late to throw another vote in for the one on the bottom? Add the hood tack bubble as well, but I like the idea of switching the gauge to a boost gauge or soemthing a little different.

Wicked car by the way.
Bill

Lenie

08-29-2007, 04:31 PM

Bottoms are good:D I mean the bottom one. Nice Bird, can't wait to see it back together.

Speedster

08-29-2007, 04:54 PM

Hey Guys -

Yeah, I went with the bottom hood, but it is 1-1/2" taller for clearance. They are working on finishing the inside with the Carbon Fiber. Getting closer. I am bringing it over to Frank's (Prodigy) this weekend. His buddy is going to make some custom interior panels for it that will clear the rollcage. Debating whether to cover in material or leave Carbon Fiber.

70TWO NOVA

08-29-2007, 06:09 PM

I like the 400 hood better.

1984 camaro

08-29-2007, 06:59 PM

Gotta love that viedo :thumbsup: Tom added a nice touch with the ball of fire:wow:
Randy

andrewmp6

08-29-2007, 08:30 PM

im with the rest i like the gto looking one. a stingray hood would nice too.the hood tach is nice as long as you seal it right mine always fogged up and i hated it.

FETorino

08-30-2007, 01:23 PM

Keep the firebird look don't make it a camaro. What a bout a version of the 69 TA hood graftted to your earlier 1st gen That hood was slightly taller starting at the front with two large square scoops. Could look more subtle even if you had to raise it a bit.

Speedster

08-31-2007, 02:37 PM

It is definitely a Firebird 400 hood, just raised up in the middle for clearance. Got one of the "good" t/A wings from Frank for the back.