79 Trans Am: Quadralink vs G-link with the rear frame rail clip

[ramairws601]

Hello, long time lurker here but I finally must post up my problem. sorry for the long post but heres the situation. I have a 79 Trans Am and thought I had it narrowed down to Alston's G-link subframe clip or DSE's quadralink.
I have seen all the various talk on these two systems but never one about the alston frame clip.
The rear frame rails on my car are solid rust free rails but they werent welded at the factory very well. near the bottom of the back seat where the rail should be against the pan there is a gap for about 8 inches and none of the spot welds reached. the first ones that did near the end of that section actually tore the metal out.
SO, I can take all that out and go G-link frame rail clip and solve that whole problem plus have full solid rails. with the DSE I would have to try to close that gap and weld up the factory rails and modify them for their kit. seems like the full rails would be the better option to me. I have a hard time using either DSE or Alstons kits that utilize the stock rear rails. Plus the g link looks simpler with canted uppers instead of panhard rod.
anyone have experience with the G-link subframe clip?
do I really NEED new full box frame rails?

[itsals1]

Not to add gas to the fire,BUT I would look at Speed-Tech's torque-arm!
JMO!

Travis

[ramairws601]

Not to add gas to the fire,BUT I would look at Speed-Tech's torque-arm!
JMO!

Travis
oh thanks! :D went to the website and seen the photos. yes that does look like a nice setup. seems most are running the dse setup though, makes me wonder if it is the "follow what everyone else is using" or if its really just that good.... the speedtech torque arm looks good but how many use it?
I also read a post about Mary Pozzi, her car has factory rear frame rails....makes me wonder if i really need to go with the alston full clip. maybe need to rethink things. her car has all the seams on the floorpan stitch welded in. maybe do that to mine as well.

[WSSix]

DSE is that good. However, that's not to say others aren't very good as well. You also need to be very honest with yourself about what your intentions are with the car. Unless of course you can afford to build whatever you want. Nothing at all wrong with that either. The point I'm getting at is you don't have to spend a while bunch of money to have a great handling car that also rides well. 2nd gens already handle pretty dang well for a 40 year old car. Think about what you will really do with the car and build to reach that goal.

[Blake Foster]

Not to add gas to the fire,BUT I would look at Speed-Tech's torque-arm!
JMO!

Travis

Go Ahead ADD as much FIRE!!!!as you want.
we have about a dozen in the works right now and will have real world results soon. that being said, it is a copy of the First Gen system modified to fit the Second Gen Cars, Installation is a breaze, 70-73 can fit a 345 tire 75-81 a 325 fits better due to the outer fender lip differance, you can fit a 345 if you want to play with the fender lips and mini tubs. it's tight!!
i think we have proven how well the Torque arm works in the First Gen and there is really no reason it wont perform as well in the second gen.

[itsals1]

Here you go Blake! :fire: :fire: :fire:

:lol:
Travis

[Blake Foster]

Perfect thanks!

[ramairws601]

Blake, I noticed in your post this pic http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff425/killer72nova/70-81SpeedtechCamaroTorqueArm1.jpg this car has no subframe connectors at all? is that because the torque arm transmits a good deal of the load to the front or what? I thought subframe connectors were a given on these cars. Is that a color your system comes in and what is it? also, what type of coating is on the bottom?

[WSSix]

I dig that bronze color. :thumbsup: Is that the gunmetal color option?

[Firebirdsteve]

I believe it is the same bronze powder color that his wheels are done in...

[Blake Foster]

Blake, I noticed in your post this pic http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff425/killer72nova/70-81SpeedtechCamaroTorqueArm1.jpg this car has no subframe connectors at all? is that because the torque arm transmits a good deal of the load to the front or what? I thought subframe connectors were a given on these cars. Is that a color your system comes in and what is it? also, what type of coating is on the bottom?

this car is getting a Tiger cage, so the sub frame connectors are not really required. because there is no, little load on the spring pockets an all the forces are transfered to the front X member it reduces the need. redZed has no subframe connectors, and it has done auto X events with no issues.

The Bronze color you see there is not available as one of our standard options, but your local powdercoater could order it.

[Ron in SoCal]

this car is getting a Tiger cage, so the sub frame connectors are not really required. because there is no, little load on the spring pockets an all the forces are transfered to the front X member it reduces the need. redZed has no subframe connectors, and it has done auto X events with no issues.



I've heard Brett state that before as well. Would love to see some real world torsional rigidity comparison testing between the Tiger cage and SFCs.