Red Devil vs 2012 ZL-1 at Gingerman Hot Rod TV [Archive]

ironworks

07-27-2012, 07:58 AM

That says alot about both cars.

Mark's car can beat all the engineering that GM has spent. I would guess Gm tested the camaro for more laps on the track then Mark has put on the Red Devil.

GM can build a car and warranty it for 100k miles that is close enough even give Mark's car a run for it's money for 55K.

I guarantee Mark spent 55k on just the engine, trans and suspension parts with wheels and brakes.

Cool Video.

Sales@Dutchboys

07-27-2012, 08:11 AM

That car is just badass. Period.
Car looks great!

chr2002ca

07-27-2012, 08:24 AM

That's a killer review of both vehicles. I'll definitely be watching that a few more times. Thanks for sharing. :thumbsup:

73CPCAMARO

07-27-2012, 08:27 AM

Very cool video showing two incredible cars. Good job Mark! :thumbsup:

califconstruct

07-27-2012, 08:31 AM

Cool Video!.. quite the match up.

DFRESH

07-27-2012, 08:50 AM

Man, is that cool. Mark, will it somehow be possible to adopt the new Magnetic suspension into one of your upcoming builds?

Doug

sik68

07-27-2012, 08:52 AM

:D This put a big smile on my face! Mark will have a little extra swagger around the GM water cooler today. :lol:

67ragtp

07-27-2012, 08:52 AM

Very cool video, great job Mark. The 1LE camaro is coming soon, has all the suspension goodies the z has with the exception of the magnetic shock system. Awesome daily driver. Its cool making the comparisons, the z is a 4000 lb car :wow: , I think it did phenominal against Marks beast. Really enjoyed that :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Rich

Ron in SoCal

07-27-2012, 09:02 AM

:D This put a big smile on my face! Mark will have a little extra swagger around the GM water cooler today. :lol:

That said it all Steven :yes:

Very cool Mark!

Stielow

07-27-2012, 09:26 AM

:D This put a big smile on my face! Mark will have a little extra swagger around the GM water cooler today. :lol:

Thanks guys. I knew the GM Camaro guys would say I was sand bagging if I did not set a good lap time in the ZL-1. The Camaro guys told me the Automobile Mag lap times so I knew the bogie. Once I sorted out the ZL-1's no lift shift I was able just keep the gas pinned and row the gears. The ZL-1 is a great track car. The guys shooting the video drove the car over from Detroit then drove it back home at the end of the day.

I did my personal best in Red Devil at Gingerman to beat it. I would also like to thank, Jason (The new owner of Red Devil) to allow me to take it the track and beat on it. I gave him a ride in "his" car and he was blow away. We just beat on both cars then put them away.

It was a great day.

Mark

Sieg

07-27-2012, 09:59 AM

Good stuff Mark!

Speaks volumes for both cars.

JMitch19

07-27-2012, 10:14 AM

Wow, that is impressive. I assume those lap times were on the long course? I just looked back at last years MotorState Challenge time(this year was on the short course) and Danny Popp's best time in the Vette was 1.40.5. A 1.39.5 is killer. The 1.42.x in the ZL1 would have been good for the second best lap time at the 2011 MotorState Challenge. Not bad for a bone stock car with a 100k powertrain warranty.

66SuperSport

07-27-2012, 10:35 AM

Congratulations Mark on setting incredible times in both cars. You definitley were pushing yourself hard and made this a very fair challenge. Nice job! :D

OLDFLM

07-27-2012, 10:51 AM

A 67... but I'm still hoping Mark will do a 70-73 one day soon! :yes:

Rybar

07-27-2012, 10:54 AM

That was pure awesomeness at it's best. Thanks Mark and Hot Rod for the entertainment :thumbsup:

Flash68

07-27-2012, 11:10 AM

What a great video. A testament to the cars themselves and Mark's ability as a driver. Most people aren't going to sniff those times or even close. :thumbsup:

And Red Devil has to be the best sounding LS motor I've ever heard online... the combo of the blower and exhaust is on the money.

Spiffav8

07-27-2012, 11:27 AM

Nicely done Mark. Really enjoyed the video!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Stuart Adams

07-27-2012, 12:51 PM

Great video. Really enjoyed it. Red Devil speaks for itself, kudos to GM for upping the performance of the new camaro bigtime. Great off the showroom floor car for the money.

Sandbagger

07-27-2012, 04:29 PM

That had to be on the new pavement over there .
Last time I was there they were digging for the new track section .
How is the last turn near the pits ?
Excellant comparison :cheers:

Chad-1stGen

07-27-2012, 04:46 PM

Sweet, now that was a fun vid to watch!

Man I love Red Devil :)

Steve1968LS2

07-27-2012, 04:48 PM

So, we learned that hp-to-weight ratio is important...

I wonder how much more power the ZL1 would need to catch up considering the cornering was the same.

Nice vid and congrats to Stielow and the ever badass Red Devil. :thumbsup:

coolwelder62

07-27-2012, 04:59 PM

Now that's the kinda TV we all want to see.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

SnakeEater

07-27-2012, 05:40 PM

Definitely one of my favorite videos. Both cars are awesome.:thumbsup: :bow:

214Chevy

07-27-2012, 09:00 PM

I love how Red Devil whined when it came around the corner and Mark had his foot in its a$$. Music to my ears!!:yes: :yes:

Sieg

07-27-2012, 09:13 PM

I wonder how much more power the ZL1 would need to catch up considering the cornering was the same.

Or how much less weight ala Formula 1.

I wonder how many unncessary pounds are on the ZL1?

GregWeld

07-27-2012, 09:37 PM

Way too much fun!

Good job Mark...

While the outcome was hardly surprising.... it really does say a lot about the ZL-1... 'cause we all know that you can engineer a great car.

Vegas69

07-27-2012, 09:46 PM

The car is one thing but to take out an Indy lights driver, hell yes. :thumbsup:

Everybody and their Mom can buy a 2012 ZL-1, Red Devil is one of a kind. I do agree that the performance of the new ZL-1 is undeniable for 55k. It's just ordinary, that's all.

67zo6Camaro

07-27-2012, 09:55 PM

Anybody feel like building a new project car? I know I do after watching that. Todd? anybody else?:yes:

fleetus macmullitz

07-27-2012, 09:57 PM

Often I end up cringing when I hear the automotive media talk about 'pro-touring'.

Not in that vid. :cool:

Congrats Mark. :thumbsup:

Ummgawa

07-27-2012, 10:24 PM

Wicked. Mark, you da man.:thumbsup:

tmadden

07-27-2012, 10:27 PM

Bad ass man, bad ass!!!

camcojb

07-27-2012, 11:08 PM

who bought red devil?

is marks new ride gonna be AWD????

somebody Charley knew, and "no"...... :)

WILWAXU

07-28-2012, 01:02 AM

Awesome video! :thumbsup:

NovaBlue71

07-28-2012, 07:11 AM

Cool video Mark. Red Devil has exceeded beyond what anybody has ever done with a 69 camaro what more can you say.That car sounds so angry coming down the strait away and hearing the supercharger whine.Congrats Mark, and tip of hat to Jason (new owner) for bringing it out to do this. :thumbsup: Joe.

jon72vega

07-28-2012, 07:33 AM

Great Video!

JohnC

07-28-2012, 07:37 AM

All I can say is --WOW!!

I feel like a broken record, but...

Mark, congratulations on all of your huge accomplishments from Red Devil to record lap times..

I had a smile from ear-to-ear for the whole video:D ...

Awesome!

pw2006

07-28-2012, 07:53 AM

That was so cool! My 5yo asked me if that was my red car... in my dreams! :cheers:

glassman

07-28-2012, 09:42 AM

Rybar

07-28-2012, 10:29 AM

Charley can you please dust off the Mule I want to see how that car compares now.... :thumbsup:

andrew5

07-28-2012, 11:55 AM

i just can't stop watching!!

lilcraigford

07-28-2012, 01:28 PM

That was a really well done video! Red Devil produces absolute music... I don't think I could get tired of listening to that.

cheapta

07-28-2012, 01:34 PM

That was freaking awesome!! I especially liked the flames out the tailpipes of the Devil when he let off the gas in one shot!! What a wicked car!!!

Peter

Vegas69

07-28-2012, 04:45 PM

Charley can you please dust off the Mule I want to see how that car compares now.... :thumbsup:

That would be interesting. I'm sure they have been on the same tracks.

Sandbagger

07-28-2012, 05:26 PM

That would be interesting. I'm sure they have been on the same tracks.

Would it be possible to get all the Steilow Camaros together ? Comcast could sell that video for 15 bucks a night :unibrow:

MoparCar

07-29-2012, 07:00 AM

Wow.....that was nice! Red Devil is just the top of the top.....I love that car.

Wes

Gatekeeper

07-29-2012, 09:50 AM

That is one great video. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bow:

lil427z

07-29-2012, 07:02 PM

thanks mark.:thumbsup:
rick k

cencalc6

07-29-2012, 07:08 PM

Enjoyed the video,great Job!

DETON8R

07-29-2012, 08:59 PM

I just want to watch that video again and again.
Just AWESOME!!:hail:

Den69RS96

07-31-2012, 12:36 PM

Next round the Red Devil takes on a ZR1. I would love to see that one.

waynieZ

07-31-2012, 08:08 PM

That was fun to watch! Awesome driving Mark. I love your builds.

Darrell

08-01-2012, 05:17 PM

That was cool:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I'm buying Marks book right now!!!

camcojb

08-01-2012, 05:22 PM

That was cool:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I'm buying Marks book right now!!!

he will appreciate that. :thumbsup: