Drifting /Columbus Autocross 2012 Goodguys

[69c4x11]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSZQZOPYip0
Neal Lea in the LS9 57,Was asked to politely leave the course,, The 57 is BadAss,,

[Wood_24]

cant take them alabama boys nowhere im tellin ya.

[69c4x11]

Yep ,, They didn't have on badges & weren't pack'n, So were else could he do it and not get a ticket,,, Heck ,they just got the car finished and loaded on the trailer ,about 5pm thursday,, and headed out of Bama,, It was a Shake down/Tune run before he got serious,,, He didn'tknow it would be his last,,, Damn Yankees

[1969x11]

Gonna have to get that boy some driven lessons, I dont think he gave The Ironworks chassis or those Michelin's a fighting chance. Sucks that they kicked him off the track...I did'nt know the autocross was such a serious event.:cheers:

[SLO_Z28]

Guys like that are why memberships exist, so you can yank them. This isn't formula drift, this is autocross, and assholes like that make it harder for the regular folks to get insurance and take up a ton of time while course workers reset the course.

[69c4x11]

GOTN,Yes us Rdneck Like to have Fun and drive um like we stole - um, I guess that's a sin to some that are trailer haulers/ autocross freaks,, Give-um a thrashing ,You can by new tires,, If it won't take it you don't need it !!

[1969x11]

Guys like that are why memberships exist, so you can yank them. This isn't formula drift, this is autocross, and assholes like that make it harder for the regular folks to get insurance and take up a ton of time while course workers reset the course.

Why call him an asshole?? Do you know him personally?? This guy is probably one of the top 10 tallented car builders in the US!!! Have you ever thought that maybe he's not the caliber of driver that you are?? I'm pretty sure this was his first time ever at a Goodguys autocross. He has never had any driving lessons other than drifting a damned old pick-up truck on a dirt road. Cut the man some slack he was just blowin off some steam after several months of thrashing to get this car done to deliver it to it's owner.

[69c4x11]

Hey Jack,, Do you know what G.O.T.N .means ??? Assholes and memberships!! What the same ??

[SLO_Z28]

Why call him an asshole?? Do you know him personally?? This guy is probably one of the top 10 tallented car builders in the US!!! Have you ever thought that maybe he's not the caliber of driver that you are?? I'm pretty sure this was his first time ever at a Goodguys autocross. He has never had any driving lessons other than drifting a damned old pick-up truck on a dirt road. Cut the man some slack he was just blowin off some steam after several months of thrashing to get this car done to deliver it to it's owner.

Fair enough, ill downgrade it to jackass, because only a jackass would do something like that. He had no semblance of control and was a danger to himself and others.

[Ketzer]

I've spectated at a few events, never autocrossed. Take it for what it's worth. It seems the track is kept pretty small and tight. Kinda regulates how much momentum you can build up. Strategically placed barricades here and there but mostly just fence and a lot of folks standing up against it. Seems a bad place to "do your own thing". Regardless of talent or intentions, that was really poor judgement.


Jeff-

[GregWeld]

Neal Lea is a super good guy... and was no doubt just having fun.


BTW -- is it just my computer or was this the worst quality video ever posted?

[Ketzer]

BTW -- is it just my computer or was this the worst quality video ever posted?

Really bad video. Hard to even tell if he was having too much fun. :_paranoid


Jeff-

[DTM Racing]

I couldn't even tell what was going on.

[67XR7]

I couldn't even tell what was going on.
++1 agreed!

[Bucketlist2012]

Taken on a flip phone from the 1990's..

I could tell it was fast, but I could not tell what was going on.

[69c4x11]

Thanks Greg for saying that about Neal,,,Yes poor quaility phone,, Doon't care if it was Neal or not,, No One Was In DANGER, maybe the cones,,Again HE IS NOT an ASSHOLE,, Not a profesional driver - NO,, LOves to thrash one -Yes,,

[BBC71Nova]

I'd like to see a better video of this if one is available. Car sounds ridiculous. If it is really from Bama I gotta keep an eye out. I'd like to check it out up close.

[73CPCAMARO]

Worst video ever! I can't see **it.

[DOOM]

Rodger told me that 57 had something like 6000 original miles on it when they put the Ironworks chassis in it !!:faint:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

looks pretty good if you shrink the screen to 1"x1".

cone happy. no one was hurt sure but it delays the hell out of an event. Nothing sucks more than waiting 2 hours in line to be told you can't run cause of delays. needs a dough nut party area. gg's:willy:

[toddshotrods]

looks pretty good if you shrink the screen to 1"x1"...
Good tip, I watched in on my iPhone - still blurry, but much better than stretching it across a computer screen.

[Diognes56]

I think this might be the same run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATKONeu0X8c&list=UUB4xobv5YTWrbS6TR07tGnQ&index=2&feature=plcp

David

[skatinjay27]

not the same run, but THANKS for a video that VISIBLE:thumbsup:
that car is f-ing sexy!!!

imo big deal with what he did... its a freaking goodguys auto-x. its not like he attended a competitive scca event and did that...your auto-x community is safe.

fact of life #327= "when you see text below slo z28's tag just remember salt... just a grain of it"

ive lived by that for a few years now and its never done me wrong:P

[69c4x11]

Thanks ! Well Spoken,,,The LS9 is bad,,,, 3800lb car,,

[Bucketlist2012]

I think this might be the same run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATKONeu0X8c&list=UUB4xobv5YTWrbS6TR07tGnQ&index=2&feature=plcp

David

Thanks for the Video..I just sat there and watched a bunch of cars...

[SLO_Z28]

not the same run, but THANKS for a video that VISIBLE:thumbsup:
that car is f-ing sexy!!!

imo big deal with what he did... its a freaking goodguys auto-x. its not like he attended a competitive scca event and did that...your auto-x community is safe.

fact of life #327= "when you see text below slo z28's tag just remember salt... just a grain of it"

ive lived by that for a few years now and its never done me wrong:P

Actually at a SCCA autocross that wouldn't have been such a bad thing, I mean its kind of a dick move to make other racers chase cones, but you dont have the chance to run over little kids and non racers like you do at the GG things. I am just saying what a lot of people already think.

[tazzz2_ca]

Actually at a SCCA autocross that wouldn't have been such a bad thing, I mean its kind of a dick move to make other racers chase cones, but you dont have the chance to run over little kids and non racers like you do at the GG things. I am just saying what a lot of people already think.

Well there you go the voice of many from "One"....

You know you should really do an event from your west coast Ivory tower because so far you're "way smarter" than the collective """Good Guys""" and """The American Street Car Series""" efforts combined... Just ask anyone, right ROFLMFAO...

[coolwelder62]

I have been attending GG autox events for years now.If someone really gets out of control Trent will go over and talk to them if he thinks what they did was uncalled for.A hand full of us are serious about this stuff.Attending a goodguys or American streetcar event is way better deal than some Stuffy Whine and cheese SCCA ($60.00 for 4 run's) event. You get way more runs for your money.And Most of us are way FASTER too.

[69c4x11]

Wow!! He didn't know he pissed off the whole Bunch,, Didn't even hit any women or chidren that were on the course???? Haven't talked to him since Sat nite,,, I am so ashamed of him acting like a Alabama Redneck, I might have to move to Georgia,, Maybe not that serious,,Become a Bulldog Fan... Heck, Rammer Jammer, Yellow Hammer, Give-um Hell Alabamer,, But Neal is an Auburn fan,, That's my excuse for him ,til he Man's up,and admits his sins,,

[1969x11]

I think this might be the same run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATKONeu0X8c&list=UUB4xobv5YTWrbS6TR07tGnQ&index=2&feature=plcp

David

I'm pretty sure this is the same run,just from a better angle. He's clearly not the caliber of driver as SLOZ28:rofl:

[ironworks]

Wow, you give a guy 650 ls9 hp, and my short Alabama cousin who apparently cant drive as well as he thought and the guy gets 3 pages. That 57 had 8600 original miles on it when it was mounted on our chassis. I was unaware small shoes could push a big pedal so far. I will post pics of the car when Im back in the office tomorrow. Im almost home, currently posting from Kingman Az.

[jkade72]

Ya'll leave my little buddy alone....lol.... If your asses had worked on that car the hours him and his crew had for the last 2weeks you would be out there enjoying the he'll out of it as well. Neil is one of my best friends and I will be the first to tell you That he has ditched a few gm pickups more times than I care to remember ...... That being said he drove that thing like a pro.:lol:

[tazzz2_ca]

Wow!! He didn't know he pissed off the whole Bunch,, Didn't even hit any women or chidren that were on the course???? Haven't talked to him since Sat nite,,, I am so ashamed of him acting like a Alabama Redneck, I might have to move to Georgia,, Maybe not that serious,,Become a Bulldog Fan... Heck, Rammer Jammer, Yellow Hammer, Give-um Hell Alabamer,, But Neal is an Auburn fan,, That's my excuse for him ,til he Man's up,and admits his sins,,

LOL Hell no he just pissed off the "One" LOL

[GregWeld]

LOL Hell no he just pissed off the "One" LOL

Last thing I'd want is a mad ass Canadian on my arse....


EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA



EH!

[tazzz2_ca]

Last thing I'd want is a mad ass Canadian on my arse....


EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA



EH!

LOL not mad buddy,,,, just reflecting on the stupidity he seems to revel in LOL.....

[fleetus macmullitz]

Last thing I'd want is a mad ass Canadian on my arse....


EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA



EH!

Someone's sadist PT would make sure you lost a Canuck off there too.

:woot:

[Diognes56]

I'm pretty sure this is the same run,just from a better angle.

Comparing audio (I couldn't get much out of the picture of the first video) I think you are correct. Same run, opposite side of the track.

All I have to say is that it is bada$$. I am Switzerland on the other stuff.

David

[SLO_Z28]

I actually do run events from time to time. I prep all the cars, build the course, even change the tires half way though the day because they wear out, and will have 500-750 runs on the same 3 cars without a hitch. There is a difference between having fun and being stupid. At my venue if you go off course there really isn't anything to hit, and you have to pick up the cones you hit yourself so there's no one to piss off. There is a certain amount of respect needed when you're tossing around a $100,000 4500lb sedan at 1G.

LOL not mad buddy,,,, just reflecting on the stupidity he seems to revel in LOL.....

If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black,,,, Go ahead and consult your buddy from McDonalds Douglus if you need clarification on what that means,,,,, sometimes its hard,,,,,to understand and such.... what you are saying.... and you have to wonder,,,,,, LOL ,,,,,, when you have no semblance of rational complete thoughts or correct punctuation.

[toddshotrods]

If that was the same run, I don't get all the hubbub. It looked more embarrassing than dangerous. In the blurry cell video, and with the comments I read (first), I assumed he had cleared almost every cone on the course, and nearly went through the fence. In this video, it seemed pretty slow and jerky, like he spent almost as much time on the brakes as the loud pedal.

Am I missing something?

Edit - I'm not trying to be an azz or start something. I'm really curious because I will make my autocross debut eventually, and would hope for a better "review". :)

Is a bit of self control, restraint, composure, etc, more important than the absolute fastest time possible at events like this?

[GregWeld]

If that was the same run, I don't get all the hubbub. It looked more embarrassing than dangerous. In the blurry cell video, and with the comments I read (first), I assumed he had cleared almost every cone on the course, and nearly went through the fence. In this video, it seemed pretty slow and jerky, like he spent almost as much time on the brakes as the loud pedal.

Am I missing something?

Edit - I'm not trying to be an azz or start something. I'm really curious because I will make my autocross debut eventually, and would hope for a better "review". :)

Is a bit of self control, restraint, composure, etc, more important than the absolute fastest time possible at events like this?


All driving events are about car control... smooth is fast/slow is fast... and there is a time penalty per cone moved etc. But IMHO it's also about having a bit of fun and once in awhile some entertainment... provided nobody is in harms way.

I remember a certain grey Mercedes being "drifted" and doing doughnuts after OUSCI one year. Everyone was talking about it - everyone enjoyed watching the guy go nuts - and we will all remember it. We're car guys... I don't think "management" was thrilled about it though. They - of course - have "responsibility". And they have to contain this kind of behavior because if they don't someone will get hurt and then they'll have a legal/moral issue.

Lord knows I've worked enough "events" -- and trust me -- if you're out there in the middle of the course - or on the sides as a "cone head"... these cars coming at you @ mach 9 is a bit nerve wracking. So I totally get some folks thinking that this is "unsafe or stupid or..."

If you knew Neal - you'd know that he was most likely just having a bit of fun. I don't know him well - but we've had dinner together (with Ironworks crew) and he has a wickedly quick wit... and I can see the devil in his eyes and the shizzle eating grin on his face as he was doing this.

BTW -- as you know -- sideways is not fast... so you can't have both. You're either real serious about your times -- or you can go out and enjoy yourself a bit.

Just so we don't have anymore cat fights - I'll take back the statement "sideways is not fast" -- in the hands of the RIGHT driver -- such as the drift champion (not Tanner Foust) they brought out at OUSCI one year - that crushed everyones times drifting the entire course... Not only was is kool to watch -- it was some amazing driving 'cause this guy was hauling azz and having fun too.

[toddshotrods]

...or on the sides as a "cone head"...
:rofl:



All driving events are about car control...
I get that. Even in drag racing (my usual forte), making safe passes is always the rule of the day, but balls-to-the-wall is still the way down the track (except maybe in bracket racing). I almost get the feeling sometimes that this is 8-9/10ths competition. No problem, if so, I'm just trying to learn the politics before I jump in. I can see how that can be possible at events like Goodguys, saving the all-out racing for serious events like OUSCI, etc?

I'm really asking because, as a drag racer, I have an 11/10ths mentality (even when being safe). I'm not so much about just having fun, as (safely) finding the limits. If that's "wrong" in these circumstances, I don't have a problem dialing it back.

[coolwelder62]

I actually do run events from time to time. I prep all the cars, build the course, even change the tires half way though the day because they wear out, and will have 500-750 runs on the same 3 cars without a hitch. There is a difference between having fun and being stupid. At my venue if you go off course there really isn't anything to hit, and you have to pick up the cones you hit yourself so there's no one to piss off. There is a certain amount of respect needed when you're tossing around a $100,000 4500lb sedan at 1G.



If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black,,,, Go ahead and consult your buddy from McDonalds Douglus if you need clarification on what that means,,,,, sometimes its hard,,,,,to understand and such.... what you are saying.... and you have to wonder,,,,,, LOL ,,,,,, when you have no semblance of rational complete thoughts or correct punctuation.I have never been to an autox event where you picked up your own cone's.That would be big waste of time.:willy: :willy:

[ironworks]

Here are some pictures of Greg Heinrich's 8600 original miles 57 Chevrolet. It has carbon brakes and an LS9. It weighs 3800 lbs. Neil has the car super slammed right now but plans to raise it up to make it more user friendly on the public roads. Greg liked the handling and solidness of the ride that he ordered a frame for a 1970 Chevelle this weekend while in Columbus. Enjoy these pics
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Gregs%20LS9%201957%20Chevy/julyshoppics004.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Gregs%20LS9%201957%20Chevy/julyshoppics002.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Gregs%20LS9%201957%20Chevy/julyshoppics003.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Gregs%20LS9%201957%20Chevy/julyshoppics007.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Gregs%20LS9%201957%20Chevy/julyshoppics006.jpg

[Fluid Power]

That made the trip worthwhile then!

Darren

[Al Moreno]

Hats a beautiful car! Roger is that original paint?

[ironworks]

Hats a beautiful car! Roger is that original paint?


Yeap - but I teased Neil his paint and body skills were slipping.

[fleetus macmullitz]

I understand the need for a more user friendly ride height on public roads, but that stance is perfect now. Also one of the nastiest LS exhaust notes I've ever heard on a LS street motor. Almost sounds like a chambered setup. :cool:

[1969x11]

I understand the need for a more user friendly ride height on public roads, but that stance is perfect now. Also one of the nastiest LS exhaust notes I've ever heard on a LS street motor. Almost sounds like a chambered setup. :cool:

3'' Magnaflow's

[WSSix]

Gorgeous. I really like that color. Only thing I don't like are the front wheels. Something needs to be done about them. Way too much offset. Can the body accommodate a wheel with less offset so there's actually a lip on the front too?

Glad you've got another happy customer Rodger.

[ironworks]

Gorgeous. I really like that color. Only thing I don't like are the front wheels. Something needs to be done about them. Way too much offset. Can the body accommodate a wheel with less offset so there's actually a lip on the front too?

Glad you've got another happy customer Rodger.

We offer a set of narrowed control arms and have relocated the rack position since I sold this chassis with the DSE rack now having a 20:1 ratio. But the owner of the car owns a Chevrolet dealership and wanted to run a much factory GM parts as possible and had no interest in any non GM parts. They were also very limited on wheels due to the carbon ceramic brakes on the car. Those brakes are HUGE.

But I'm not sure anything needs to be done to the owners cars as he is very happy with everything. It's exactly what he wants. I believe the car has a 275 front tire on it.

[jkade72]

Rodger told me that 57 had something like 6000 original miles on it when they put the Ironworks chassis in it !!:faint:

I can't remember if it was 6 or 8 but it had 2 oil change stickers on the drivers door from the late 50's or early 60's and it had less than 4000 back then. It is a true time capsule.... Or was... Ever how you look at it. It is by far my favorite car he has done to date, this one is a driver:unibrow:

[69c4x11]

Seems like Rodger,,carry's a little weight with some of these members??? The Bamer Boys just like to have fun...Look at all the cars Rods&Restos has built,, this one was made to DRIVE,,not trailer,,no it's not a Riddler contender,but it's engine compartment sure looks like the General,installed it from the factory,,No foo-foo thrills ,just Beast from the factory,, Now can a particular member forgive him of his Sin ,Since Rodger aka Ironworks has calmed the Mob ??

[GregWeld]

Nice awning.....

[skatinjay27]

Nice awning.....

yellow would be better!:lol:

[ironworks]

Looks like Neil Lea got some press for his build with our chassis.

http://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/fancy-forgelines-not-just-for-your-modern-chevy/

[fleetus macmullitz]

Looks like Neil Lea got some press for his build with our chassis.

http://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/fancy-forgelines-not-just-for-your-modern-chevy/

Nice, but they left out the fun part...his driving.

:woot: