Swapping a ls1 and t56 intoa first gen, pedals, etc?

[geberhard]

So have a donor convertible LS1 Z28 witha T56, and am swapping the engine and tranny into a first gen (Firebid 68).

The Firebird had manual 3 speed and a Chevy engine 307 at some point which I already removed. So the car currently has the pedals for manual in place (gas pedal has a cable so that is also great). I am wondering if I should utilize the pedals from the donor as well, or use the pedals I have in place?

Thanks!

Gui

[Rybar]

Use the stock pedals. but depends on the gas pedal. Post some pictures.

[geberhard]

Thanks, gas pedal currently on first gen is the desirable one with cable (not rod style), so believe would work).

I am not sure what the clutch pedal setup will be like, I believe the one on the 67 is normally mounted pivoting from the side of the engine through a bracket, I believe no clutch master cylinders on the first gens), not sure how people have modified their setup to work with the clutch Master Cylinder?

thanks!

[MaxHarvard]

Just use the one you have. You will probably have to adjust the cable though as the lengths and routing will not be the same.

[Rybar]

Thanks, gas pedal currently on first gen is the desirable one with cable (not rod style), so believe would work).

I am not sure what the clutch pedal setup will be like, I believe the one on the 67 is normally mounted pivoting from the side of the engine through a bracket, I believe no clutch master cylinders on the first gens), not sure how people have modified their setup to work with the clutch Master Cylinder?

thanks!

You will need a firewall bracket for the clutch like this one:

http://www.speedtechperformance.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=212/category_id=261/home_id=-1/mode=prod/prd212.htm

[MaxHarvard]

You will need a firewall bracket for the clutch like this one:

http://www.speedtechperformance.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=212/category_id=261/home_id=-1/mode=prod/prd212.htm

I have that one and it works perfectly.

[Z06vette]

If you use the stock pedals with bracket listed above, you will also need a shorter clutch master rod available from speedtech. Old rod end is removed from 4th gen master & new one is put on in place of it & welded. Only other thing you will likely need to do if using all 4th gen hydraulics is make a pedal stop. The pedal will not go all the way to the floor, so travel will need to be limited to avoid damaging the master. I'll see if I can find the part # for the speedtech rod.
Scott

[imjustjames]

I can't wait to do the LSX swap!!

[72Z/28]

If you use the stock pedals with bracket listed above, you will also need a shorter clutch master rod available from speedtech. Old rod end is removed from 4th gen master & new one is put on in place of it & welded. Only other thing you will likely need to do if using all 4th gen hydraulics is make a pedal stop. The pedal will not go all the way to the floor, so travel will need to be limited to avoid damaging the master. I'll see if I can find the part # for the speedtech rod.
Scott
Scott I am glad you mentioned about the clutch master rod. I have the willwood hydraulic clutch master cylinder with a long clutch master rod due to which the clutch master cylinder is mounted on a homemade bracket, and this bracket is mounted to the firewall. I will try to post a photo of it sometime this weekend.

Really appreciate If you get the part number for the short master rod.

[Z06vette]

It appears they are advertising the clutch bracket & the modified heim joint as a package now. If you already have the bracket, give them a call & im sure they will sell you the rod end joint separately. Scott

[geberhard]

Very cool. I bought some brackets for the clutch relocation on a first gen via e-bay Powdercoated black and great fit for $30 so hard to pass.