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PhillySpeedNYC
06-16-2012, 12:55 PM
my stock gm styled pump with plastic res is shot and it groaned before the hydrooboost now its worse. i even see metal particular in my fluid which isnt a good sign and clear the pump is shot.i want to install the best possible pump to run my rack and pinion and the demands of the hydrooboost. i was looking intoto those KRC pumps with aluminum reservoir. any suggestions on what pumps i should be looking at and what flow rates? i want to upgrade right and not do trial and error on seeing what works. i plan to do a TCP power rack once i do the pump and sort this first issue out.

FETorino
06-16-2012, 01:01 PM
I used Lee to rebuild an explorer pump I used in my hydroboost conversion of my early Bronco. They also made me a custom Al reservoir. They build custom steering gear for every type of racing so I'm sure they can set you up either rebuilding your existing pump to a proper spec or with a new pump.

http://www.lee-powersteering.com/

Jay Hilliard
06-18-2012, 06:17 AM
I have been using DSE small PS pump with Vintage Air pulley setup with my hydroboost for years now without issues.

Chassisworks
06-18-2012, 01:42 PM
Hey Phil,
Good talking to you this afternoon. My email is [email protected] Hope to hear from you soon.

~Carl

Hydratech®
06-18-2012, 04:24 PM
Flow rates should be in the area of 2.2-2.6 GPM, with max relief pressure settings in the area of 1400-1600 PSI. We have always had excellent success with the www.krcpower.com pumps, the www.pscmotorsports.com filtered remote reservoirs, along with the Royal Purple Max Ez synthetic PS fluid.

http://www.pscmotorsports.com/gen-iv-6-hydroboost-reservoir-w-filter.html

http://www.pscmotorsports.com/pro-touring-p-s-remote-reservoir-w-filter-for-hydro-boost-brakes.html

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RPO-01326/

http://www.krcpower.com/alumpumps.html

http://www.krcpower.com/flowvalves.html

The DSE pumps are great, though recommend you also obtain the lower flow output fitting if going this route:

http://detroitspeed.com/productsall/090401-psp-otlt-fttng.html

No matter what pump you end up choosing, be sure to filter the system out thoroughly:

http://magnefinefilters.com/

Put the filter in the low pressure return line coming out of the steering gear (not the low pressure line coming out of the hydroboost unit).

nicks67ca
06-19-2012, 10:49 AM
I have the KRC pump + large baffled external tank running my lee power steering box and hydroboost. The combination is awesome. worlds better than the OEM style pump on had on there before.

dj3
06-19-2012, 10:58 AM
Stock pumps vary 06 GTO works good with a rack, see link.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/1262185-power-steering-pump-outputs-gto-f-body-corvette-cts-v-truck-etc.html

chicane
06-19-2012, 05:54 PM
Do yourself the favor... and install (temporarily in the return line) a GM PF883 filter (it's like, $8) before you run any pump the first time. This will take all particulate matter out of the fluid before it is put to real use.

After running it for the first time, say 30 minutes... remove the PF883, install your permanent return line and filtration system... and don't look back.

I figured this out during the days of the Corvette Challenge Series (early 90's)... as we used to see steering rack failures from particulate matter and over heating... as the tend to coincide.

The KRC, PSC and SPIN units have also yielded the best results for me as well.

Furthermore, only use a quality fluid... along the lines of extreme racing lubricants, RedLine (my baseline default as you can get it ANYWHERE) or Royal Purple.

PhillySpeedNYC
06-20-2012, 03:56 AM
thanks for all the feedback, i have been leaning towards these KRC pumps.

So you guys suggest the KRC pump only with an external fluid reservoir from PSC? What do you guys think of the bolt on Aluminum Reservoirs that KRC makes to attach to their pumps? KRC did tell me they didnt recommend them for a Hydrobost or to add an extra return fitting

my install issue is that i do not have alot of options to mount a remote PS reservoir in my engine bay. if possible i would like to mount it right next to the pump with a custom bracket or something. this is why i was looking for an all in one unit with an attached tank.

now in regards to fluid KRC and PSC have told me not to run Synthetic Redline or Royal and to use GM Power Steering fluid as it is the best.

Hydratech®
06-20-2012, 04:27 PM
Whether it be GM synthetic, Redline, or Royal Purple is matter of seemingly personal choice. Either will give you stellar results. The reason why we like the PSC Motorsports reservoir so much is because of the generous capacity and the serviceable built in filter. The filter does a phenomenal job of straining aeration and turbulence out of the PS fluid. The built on plastic / aluminum tank late model PS pumps also do a good job. If you stick with the general guidelines discussed, you will be golden.

Correct me if i'm wrong - isn't this a Mustang application?

If so, TCP actually spec's out a KRC pump package:

http://totalcontrolproducts.com/pump.html

:cheers:

PhillySpeedNYC
06-20-2012, 05:18 PM
I want to order the KRC pump however the PSC reservoir for the hydroboost is out of stock for a few weeks maybe. What else is new these days with obtaining parts.

i think this set up will be ideal and i really like the fact of the filter in the reservoir and how it looks. I just had a friend who is a machinist stop over and he will make me a bracket for the res to mount near the pump.

the shop that does all my work just turned me on to this Borgeson Hydroboost Pump they found while searching. It’s a Saginaw type unit.

Anyone here ever use it or know if this pump really will work right with a rack and pinion and the hydratech unit? I think the GPM is a bit much but you can reduce the PSI with a shim kit,

here is the link
http://www.borgeson.com/xcart/catalog/P_S_Pump_for_HydroBoost_Brake_Applications-p-1716.html

Hydratech®
06-21-2012, 04:28 PM
Reducing max pressure relief with a shim kit does not reduce the pump flow. Excessive pump flow produces excessive heat - just like putting a high volume / high pressure oil pump unnecessarily into an engine and dealing with superheated foaming oil. Higher max pressure relief is "good" when in proper spec, while high flow is "bad" when too high, requiring a mandatory large cooler installation just to keep the PS system operating temps reasonable.

Philly, call my guy Jim and enjoy a good conversation:

http://www.hydratechbraking.com/contact.html

:lateral:

YoungProTourer
06-27-2012, 01:02 PM
Im running a DSE Type 2 pump with the plastic reservoir with my Hyrdaboost and it works great. No issues.

PhillySpeedNYC
06-27-2012, 05:11 PM
the shop just received the PSC remote res and i have no idea where i can mount this and still make it look good, another hurdle but it is much larger than i expected. My KRC pump is also at the shop and i think they are waiting on some fittings and lines before they call me to come in for the swap.