Fire Extinguisher

[steemin]

Who has a fire extinguisher mounted in their car?
I am thinking of adding one possibly mounted on the trans tunnel
(no console)
I really don't want to go with red or chrome. The interior has a lot of brushed aluminum (steering column,steering wheel,gauge cluster pod and glove box door) and I cannot find anything to match.
I guess that I could paint one to match the body color Urban Grey.
Thoughts?
Scott

[Steve1968LS2]

This is what I have for Penny. It's a very simple design and you can get it in a brushed silver finish. The bracket is a very simple yet secure black wire frame that is perfect for mounting to the trans tunnel. I don't know why it says "chrome plated".. mine looks like the one in the pic and is brushed silver..

http://www.autosportz.com/accessories_safety_fire_extinguisher.htm

You want something easy to get to but VERY VERY secure. It would suck in an ironic way to be killed by your fire extinguisher in a crash when it breaks free and flies toward your head.. ouch!

Here's some REALLY good stuff if you want something nicer or a fire suppression system.

http://www.livermoreperformance.com/safecraft_fire_systems.html

Another one in Silver:
http://www.sporttruckdirect.com/Fire_Extinguishers.html

A very nice unit from Sparco.. at least you can trust the name :)

http://www.performancecenter.com/products/category_Interior+Accessories/productcategory_Fire+Extinguisher/searchtype_d/sortorder_A/mode_change/

[DAWG]

I have a Kidde foam bottle installed in mine.
foam is prefered by fire dept cuz it sticks to all the parts and expands .

[Rick Dorion]

I have a halon. I'm going to beef up the capacity so it will ensure adequate protection for the engine compartment and driver.

Make sure you can easily reach a stand-alone unit.

[ProTouring442]

I have one word... Halon. I used a dry chemical fire extinguisher once to put out a fire under the hood of my Dad's '61 Impala. The extinguisher did more damage than the fire. It destroyed everything aluminum. It all pitted like mad even though I cleaned the car within a few hours of putting the fire out. We eventually had to paint every surface that the stuff had landed on. What a nightmare! :wow:

Shiny Side Up!
Bill
'72 442 "Inamorata"

[PhaseShift]

Amen on the halon; That is the way to go and may save your car as well as your as- behind.

http://www.firebottleracing.com/

http://www.stockcarproducts.com/fire1.htm

[crazy1969]

no to halon no to dry chem !! I work for tha largest fire protection company what u want to use is called a FE-36 CLEAN AGENT .Call any Simplexgrinnell office look then up in your phone book we have all types of brackets aswell Iam sure they will hook you up :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Rick Dorion]

Tell us more. Inquiring minds want to know!

[rockdogz]

no to halon no to dry chem !! I work for tha largest fire protection company what u want to use is called a FE-36 CLEAN AGENT .Call any Simplexgrinnell office look then up in your phone book we have all types of brackets aswell Iam sure they will hook you up :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

What's wrong with Halon?

[crazy1969]

Ok this is why you should NOT use halon fire extinguisher 1: it will kill you halon is poisoness to you if your in the car 2: It is very bad for the ozone thats why you cant use it in canada Now FE-36 Clean guard fire extinguishers use can use it any where you want wont kill you NOT POISONESS to you and will not hurt the ozone .Guys just trust me on this Iknow what Iam talking about this matter .Iused these extinguishers on traning demo where Ive discharged this type of extinguisher on $400 k server and no damage what so ever now if you love your car and dont want a mess or do damge to your ride spend the $ on this product

[Ummgawa]

I usually drink two gallons of water before I drive the 69. I am my own volenteer fire department.

Heck it cures athletes feet it should be able to extinguish a fire.

[67Sally]

:rofl:

[PhaseShift]

Ok this is why you should NOT use halon fire extinguisher 1: it will kill you halon is poisoness to you if your in the car 2: It is very bad for the ozone thats why you cant use it in canada Now FE-36 Clean guard fire extinguishers use can use it any where you want wont kill you NOT POISONESS to you and will not hurt the ozone .Guys just trust me on this Iknow what Iam talking about this matter .Iused these extinguishers on traning demo where Ive discharged this type of extinguisher on $400 k server and no damage what so ever now if you love your car and dont want a mess or do damge to your ride spend the $ on this product


I disagree on the "it will kill you" statement. According to the MSDS for a Kidde fire extinguisher (and every other MSDS I looked up), it is categorized as irritating or may cause issues after prolonged exposure or prolonged inhalation. http://www.kiddeus.com/Halon1211.rsf
Not saying that the stuff you are talking about is not as good or better and may be less irritating; just that halon is not a deadly poison.
I have worked on circle track cars that have been on fire and had halon systems on board that were definitely saved due to the fire suppression system. A mess I can handle, a crispy Camaro is a bigger issue.

Can you give us some more specific info like an MSDS on the stuff you referred to? If it is really the way to go, I may change my direction on the fire suppression system going in my car soon.

[Steve1968LS2]

What about Halatron?

[steemin]

I usually drink two gallons of water before I drive the 69. I am my own volenteer fire department.

Heck it cures athletes feet it should be able to extinguish a fire.

You my friend are a mess :lol:
Scott

[rockdogz]

Ok, so check this out:

I decide to get a halotron fire extinguisher. I see this one from Griot's:

http://www.griotsgarage.com/images/products/lg/26601_LG.jpg

Here's the description:

HALOTRON 1 FIRE EXTINGUISHERS STOP FIRES WITHOUT HARMING DELICATE PARTS OR LEAVING BEHIND MESSY RESIDUE A fire is bad enough. It's even worse when you use a dry chemical fire extinguisher on an engine, electrical or computer fire. You'll find the powder makes a mess and does enormous damage to delicate engine, electrical and some metal parts. If you're smart enough to keep fire extinguishers around your garage, home and in your vehicles I applaud you. Now, you can keep the right kind for the proper use. Halotron 1 is EPA and FAA approved. It's much more environmentally safe than Halon 1211. It has a low global warming potential and low ozone depletion potential due to its short atmospheric life. It's a clear liquid, stored under pressure, that vaporizes upon release. It doesn't degrade like powders do so its shelf life is up to 11 years. The vapor won't obscure your vision while fighting the fire and its non-conductive properties provide fast, clean fire control. Keep one in your garage, home, office and each vehicle. The trigger and nozzle are high quality, and the built-in gauge lets you know when it's time to refill. 1 1⁄4 lb. bottle diameter is 2 5⁄8" and 9 3⁄4" tall. 2 1⁄2 lb. bottle diameter is 3" and 14 1⁄4" tall. These bottles are masterfully crafted, have rubber seals and feature a simple mounting bracket with quick-release latches for fast access. Made in the U.S.A.

Great, I think so I decide to get the 1 1/4 lb one. Ok, it's here. Great! The box says Halotron:

http://www.camarorestoration.com/gallery/albums/album03/fire3.jpg

So far so good. Hmm, but look what they actually shipped me...

http://www.camarorestoration.com/gallery/albums/album03/fire2.sized.jpg
http://www.camarorestoration.com/gallery/albums/album03/fire1.sized.jpg

WHAT?? :eek:

They not only point out in their ad that a dry chemical extinguisher is not what you want for your auto fire, they don't even sell them!!! Man I can't wait to call up tomorrow and give them a piece of my mind...

[Rick Dorion]

It was mispackaged. They've been good for me to deal with. I have one of their halon units.

[rockdogz]

It was mispackaged. They've been good for me to deal with. I have one of their halon units.

Weird though how they don't even carry this in their catalog, yet it was sent to me...

[crazy1969]

Sorry about not getting back to you just got home from trip to U.S anyway halotron is almost as good as fe-36 clean guard agent for the msds sheets you can get from our wed page you can try the 2 wed sites first try tyco.com or simplexgrinnell.com now this extinguisher is made by dupont now back to halon discharge it in your car and stay in there for about 2 mins tell me what happends to you (maybe not ) because you died .Just read the warning label on the halon extinguisher.thanks see you bye :lol:

[PhaseShift]

Sorry about not getting back to you just got home from trip to U.S anyway halotron is almost as good as fe-36 clean guard agent for the msds sheets you can get from our wed page you can try the 2 wed sites first try tyco.com or simplexgrinnell.com now this extinguisher is made by dupont now back to halon discharge it in your car and stay in there for about 2 mins tell me what happends to you (maybe not ) because you died .Just read the warning label on the halon extinguisher.thanks see you bye :lol:

OK, so you plan on staying _in_ a burning car for 2 minutes?

Yes, halon is a CFC and does not do a lot of good for the ozone; despite that, it is very effective at extingusihing the fire in your expensive car. Oh, just one thought- How many car fires have you witnessed being put out with a on-board fire supression system?

I think you missed the point of my response to the original post. An opinion question was asked, I offered mine, which is based on actual experience with race care which do catch on fire sometimes when wrecked.

Phase

[Blown353]

I have a good sized Halon 1211 extinguisher in my car at all times. It rides with me daily, and has ridden in my cars and my dads cars during all drag and roadcourse trips.

That being said, Halon is nasty stuff. It puts out the fire by displacing oxygen. Last I checked most fires are an oxidizing process and require oxygen to continue burning. Unfortunatley, you also need oxygen to breathe, so yes, using a halon extinguisher in a confined area or contained atmosphere (i.e. inside your car while the windows are up with you in it) could easily suffocate you and lead to possible death.

While Halon won't mess up any expensive pieces (not already damaged by the fire) because halon only displaces oxygen that's also a problem. If the source of ignition is still present after the halon dissipates and oxygen rushes back in the fire will flare back up. A dry chemical extinguisher will "smother" the area and help prevent re-ignition, but as was mentioned it is quite corrosive to non-ferrous metals.