Vapor Works tank?

[orangevert]

Who is running vapors works tank by ricks, Any thoughts on them. Pros / Cons? Im thinking of ordering one in the next few weeks.

Thanks Kirk

[SLO_Z28]

If youre on the fence at ALL about these tanks, call up Carl @ Vaporworks and youll get someone that knows more than anyone about fuel delivery systems and will take the time to get a system that is perfect for you. These systems are incredibly high quality and have great value.

[camcojb]

it is the best option that I am aware of. :thumbsup:

[James OLC]

Simply the best! On two occasions we've run the tank down to under an eighth of a gallon left without running dry. My suggestion is to use the stock 5th gen fuel sending unit which will make the package just about bulletproof!

[orangevert]

Thanks for the response guys I will give them a call.


Kirk

[randy]

cost?

[John510]

I have one. They are around 1600$ but are the BEST tanks period!

[CarlC]

Simply the best! On two occasions we've run the tank down to under an eighth of a gallon left without running dry. My suggestion is to use the stock 5th gen fuel sending unit which will make the package just about bulletproof!

....from the guy that tows a trailer with his Camaro :unibrow:

Thanks for the compliments guys. We are always trying to come up with better fuel delivery mousetraps.

Krik, my email is [email protected]. Please feel free to lay out what your engine plans are now and in the future and we'll come up with a system that makes sense for you.

[randy]

$1600??? outch. Mine will have a ls2 in it and will need to be able to fit my quadralink that is already installed

[DETON8R]

$1600??? outch. Mine will have a ls2 in it and will need to be able to fit my quadralink that is already installed

DITTO!!!

I've been looking at several different posts and I'm wondering what is the difference in the various tanks, as the cost seems to be really-really wide.

From Summit Racing - Rick's tank, Stainless, for a mild LS1 build - about $1200.
From DSE - Stainless tank for a mild LS1 Build - about $1150 (I've seen on other postings that DSE gets their tanks from Rock Valley, don't know if it is true....)
Ricks Vapor Works - $1600 - From above.
Spectra - Stamped steel/OEM with fuel pump and sender that is similar to OEM pump assembly - $450-600 depending on options.
OEM style Stainless tank with in tank EFI pump - $800 - similar to Spectra

Now I realize there are also custom tanks for high horsepower set ups, and some pumps can easily cost $600 to $1000, then you need to factor in the cost of the tank. But for an LS1/LS2/LS3 with less than 600 HP that will mostly be driven on the street, and might see some auto cross or a drag strip periodically, what is the benefit of purchasing a $1600 tank when a $1200 or even a $600 tank will do??

And I do get that a stainless tank has benefits over stamped steel, don't get me wrong. And I've heard that the spectra tanks has issues before they reworked their baffles/sump, but that is now fixed. Retrofuel and tanks inc seem to be able to modify (or sell mod kits) for existing tanks.

Some help here would be much appreciated....

[Vegas69]

Fuel control similar to your daily driver tank. Fuel starvation is no bueno with fuel injection.

[John510]

DITTO!!!

But for an LS1/LS2/LS3 with less than 600 HP that will mostly be driven on the street, and might see some auto cross or a drag strip periodically, what is the benefit of purchasing a $1600 tank when a $1200 or even a $600 tank will do??

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The vaporworx tank has 2 pickups. One on each side of the tank. Basically it has all of the internals of a 2010 camaro tank. If your running a modern motor then get a modern tank.

Sure you can buy cheaper tank with a single pickup and save some cash. But if you plan on auto crossing or doing other hard driving then I would get the vaporworx. It is only a 400$ difference compared to a regular ricks tank. It will run way better when your low on fuel.

Oh and Did I mention that with the Vaporworx tank you don't need to run a return fuel line? Yeah thats worth some time and money .

[wellis77]

I ordered my Vaporworx stuff direct from Carl and had it sent to my fabricator who, using my specs, designed and built a custom stainless tank from 14 ga. stainless for less than the cost of a standard Rick's Tank. They were awesome to work with and gave me exactly what I needed. The cost for me to have a custom tank built by Rick's, with Vaporworx, would have been more than the $1600 mentioned, I saved $200-$300 off the $1600. PM me and I can give you the contact details and send you pics of my completed tank. Also, see my build thread for pics, link in sig.

[Flash68]

DITTO!!!

I've been looking at several different posts and I'm wondering what is the difference in the various tanks, as the cost seems to be really-really wide.

From Summit Racing - Rick's tank, Stainless, for a mild LS1 build - about $1200.
From DSE - Stainless tank for a mild LS1 Build - about $1150 (I've seen on other postings that DSE gets their tanks from Rock Valley, don't know if it is true....)
Ricks Vapor Works - $1600 - From above.
Spectra - Stamped steel/OEM with fuel pump and sender that is similar to OEM pump assembly - $450-600 depending on options.
OEM style Stainless tank with in tank EFI pump - $800 - similar to Spectra

Now I realize there are also custom tanks for high horsepower set ups, and some pumps can easily cost $600 to $1000, then you need to factor in the cost of the tank. But for an LS1/LS2/LS3 with less than 600 HP that will mostly be driven on the street, and might see some auto cross or a drag strip periodically, what is the benefit of purchasing a $1600 tank when a $1200 or even a $600 tank will do??

And I do get that a stainless tank has benefits over stamped steel, don't get me wrong. And I've heard that the spectra tanks has issues before they reworked their baffles/sump, but that is now fixed. Retrofuel and tanks inc seem to be able to modify (or sell mod kits) for existing tanks.

Some help here would be much appreciated....

Very cool.

There is also a new Aeromotive stamped tank coming out soon that sounds promising for those on a budget.

[ccracin]

I also built my own tank using parts and information supplied by Vaporworx. Did I save money yes. Does mine look as good as Ricks, NO. Don't get me wrong, ours turned out very good and is custom built for our application. However, it is a TON of work. I never expected it to be nicer than Ricks. I have built 1, they have built........well think of the McDonalds served sign. We did ours to save some money sure, but we also did it because I love to learn and I thought this was one project I needed to tackle. After having built one myself, I would not turn my nose up at the cost from Ricks. You would not be disappointed. Oh, and you are not comparing apples to apples with the other tanks mentioned. The technology in the Vaporworks system matches the needs of today's fuel injected engines and the driving style we all admire on this site. Fuel control is king and this system is the best out there. Good luck with your project! :thumbsup:

[James OLC]

The vaporworx tank has 2 pickups. One on each side of the tank. Basically it has all of the internals of a 2010 camaro tank. If your running a modern motor then get a modern tank.

Technically I think that the VaporWorx tank has 3 pickupes - one in each corner of the tank and (IIRC) one on the bottom of the fuel pump module.

A couple of other considerations with the VaporWork tank (some of which have been mentioned):

- No return line needed (an easy $50-$100 savings)
- No regulator needed (again, an easy $50-$100 savings)
- A cheaper and more reliable fuel level sender
- You don't have to buy a new pump - if you can find a wreck you have an option to source it yourself
- There is (IMHO) a fuel economy savings (not that many of us care). The VaporWork system uses a self adjusting pressure regulator (as do many of the new cars) which taylors the fuel pressure to the engine load. While it may not be a significant consideration, this does lead to a more efficient use of fuel. I personally (individual results may vary) found that I was getting better mileage on the highway with the VaporWorx tank. I also found that my plugs looked better. My mileage on the track still sucks.
- A Rick's tank (VaporWorx or otherwise) does have an increased cost over other alternatives but if you are minitubbing the car and/or need additional exhaust clearance it's the best way to go unless you have the skills to build or modify a tank yourself.
- A VaporWorx pump does have a cost premium over a drop in style pump (up to a certain point - it's certainly more expensive than a wabro pump but its on par with a Kinsler/Bosch setup) but the 5th gen fuel module (et al) is bulletproof. It was designed to be a long life peice, it was designed to maximize efficiency and solve a host of fuel issues, and it is an OEM design - and it's dead quiet.

And as a couple of posters have mentioned, you can (of you have the skill) retrofit the VaporWorx setup in to any tank or cell that you have. I just bought a non-VaporWorx Ricks tank locally and will retrofit it when I have a chance.

Just my two bits.

[214Chevy]

In short, I've spoken to Carl about a VapoWorx tank and I'm getting one for my custom frame. With all the added benefits I will be receiving, I don't care what it cost.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: I'm just waiting on my frame to be done with the narrowed frame rails so I'll know the dimensions. And yes, Carl is a class-act. He explained everything to me thoroughly where I can understand. He even gave me a follow up call. Now that's customer service.

[nicks67ca]

Very cool.

There is also a new Aeromotive stamped tank coming out soon that sounds promising for those on a budget.

Did you have more info on this?

[Flash68]

Did you have more info on this?

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?85969-Aeromotive-Fuel-Tank-for-1st-Gen&highlight=aeromotive+tank

[nicks67ca]

Thanks! not sure how I missed it.

[CarlC]

Like most products, there are advantages and disadvantages.

Getting enough fuel to make horsepower is not usually the problem, it's fuel control. A 350hp engine will have the same problem as a 1000hp enine will when the tank is 1/2-full and turning corners if sufficient fuel control is not maintained.

The overall cost is also something that needs to be determined. For the standard VaporWorx-optioned tank offered the fuel module is from the 5th-gen LS3. With it, and the other fuel modules, no other major external components are needed. No fuel regulator, filter, return lines, etc., and no extra real-estate for them needed. Add those components to the cost of the other tanks.

I'm not nearly as smart as the OE's. They have it figured out. If they could get it for less money and keep it reliable, they would do it. The fuel module is the best option for both.

Also, just for clarification, VaporWorx does not make tanks. I work with tank builders and individuals to come up with fueling solutions that have been built, tested, beat on, and validated before being offered for sale.

[Bad94]

Just got my tank today with the vaporworks, and WOW, Looks like art.

[Denvervet]

Deton8tor
Search for previous descriptions of this setup as well as vaporworx site. I purchased this setup and will be trying it out soon. I shopped for months and found this to be the smartest value available for performance and spirited driving fuel injection . Trying to find an equal alternative that allows one to find replacement parts nearly anywhere...OE parts.:yes:

[orangevert]

Will the stamped tank fit with the car being mini tubed?

It sounds like the Vaporworks tank is the way to go,

Thanks Kirk

[randy]

so i just ordered my ls3 480hp t56 kit from pace today. I already have my tank from vaporworks tank. Does anyone have a list of everything that is needed to run from the tank to the motor? Fittings, hoses, lines or a layout game plan?

[RPitts]

Does anyone have a phone number for Carl @ Vaporworks? I would like to ask a few questions and get a tank ordered. Or if Carl you see this post please call Rob @ 707-480-4881 Thanks.