Got an iPhone4....convince me I need an iPad

[DRJDVM's '69]

So I've had an iPhone 4 since they came out...love it and use alot of its features.

Thinking of getting an iPad2 for Xmas for my wife.....but to me it seems like the iPad is just a big version of my phone (except the phone call part).....does all the same stuff, just a bigger screen...

So...convince me I need to spend another $500 on a big version of my phone...

[Flash68]

Ned I've had the exact same thoughts... I have had the Iphone4 as well... many of my friends have the Ipad... so what I did is get the Ipad2 (on craigslist BTW to save $100.. LOL) and am giving it to my parents for Xmas... if they don't like it or want, they can give it to me. :thumbsup:

[out2kayak]

Having a ITouch for a while, I am very un-impressed with CPU, software defects (the apps crash -- even ones on the device from the factory), security, and web connectivity.

From what I have see and heard about the IPad, it suffers from similar issues.

My wife asked for a tablet this Christmas and we looked at the IPad, Kindle Fire, and Nook.

The Nook was un-impressive as it only allows you 1GB space for non-B&N content.

The Fire is interesting, but we are in Europe often and it seems the Fire is zone locked. Also, see:http://video.msn.com?vid=d1a91e3b-8d50-4043-9331-1c244de5d7fc&mkt=en-us&from=cp^iv2_en-us_money_blogs-bt-amazon-town&src=CPSmall:shareBar:permalink:uuids.

What I have been watching out for is the new nvidia tegra 3 CPU in a tablet (see: http://www.tegra3.org). It's the first quad core CPU for a tablet.

Just today Amazon started selling the ASUS TF201 (http://www.amazon.com/TF201-B1-GR-Transformer-10-1-Inch-Tablet-Amethyst/dp/B0067PLM5E/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1324524162&sr=1-4). It's about the same price you are looking at, can be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich (the latest Android OS), has very good graphics and gives us space for videos, music, etc.

Here is the difference between dual cores and quad cores:

http://gigaom.com/mobile/nvidia-tegra-3-kal-el-quad-core-demo-video/

Win8 on tablet:

http://www.netbooknews.com/27326/nvidia-tegra-3-ti-omap4430-and-qualcomm-snapdragon-powered-tablets-laptop-running-windows-8/

So, you can guess what the wife is going to get for Christmas.

:cheers:

[reedld]

I love my ipad2. No software issues or problems at all. Truly wireless ( no power cords...very lightweight...long battery life). I don't use it to type very much...Just to read and respond to forums..read news articles..etc. It does have some limitations such as no " flash"... Detachable HD is tough....it's not for someone who wants to use it for Microsoft word or any other office product. All in all...I love it and have to say I am getting interested in more and more Apple products. I have an Apple iPod touch and enjoy that too. Good luck!

No iPhone yet...too cheap to justify the extra money each month. My work has "wifi" so I use my touch there...an iPhone is in my future...just not now.

[GregWeld]

We have a whole house full of iPads and iPad2's... everybody loves them. Gwen uses her's for reading and never puts it down... mine sits here and I play solitaire on it... and usually take it on trips over the laptop... They're fast - reliable and do everything well EXCEPT -- typing... they are hard to type on.

Now - the best part of the iPhone 4 S ---- SIRI! Pick up the phone - ask it "how much is 4point2 percent of 650,000? Stupid thing gives you the answer!

Just ask it - how far is it from my current position to Ned Jacksons - it pulls up google maps and gives you the info.

I swore at mine the other day -- it responded "now now" :rofl: :rofl:

[WILWAXU]

IMO, No one really "needs" an ipad.... no more than you need an iphone. But you will find more and more ways to use it everyday.

We have 7 people with ipad's in my shop.. none of us have crash issues.

[pw2006]

We have 3 in our house. My 2 year old and 5 year old are amazing on the ipads (games, movies, pictures, youtube, etc). We load them up with movies for our flights to hawaii. Need? Maybe a little strong, but they are awesome. We bring our old iPhones along when we go out to eat in case the girls need a little entertainment if they get bored with the crayons.

[Track Junky]

My kids have Ipads and I heard the I-Pad 3 was going to be smaller with more of an Iphone 4 interface.

Dont ask me what that means, thats all coming from my kids.

I'm still using a Motorolla i580 :rolleyes:

[John510]

I was in this dilema 2 weeks ago. I needed a new computer and was going to get an Ipad. I realized since I already have an Iphone 4 there is no reason to have an Ipad unless your a baller and want one just because. So Instead I bought a MacBook Air since I can actually use it as a computer. Cant use the Ipad for my Excel, store files, etc.

So yeah, instead get a Macbook Air. Same size almost as the Ipad and WAY COOLER!!!!

[Spiffav8]

Ned,

Just buy it. It's fills the gap between your phone and your computer. Super nice to have around and it does a great job at everything....except typing. lol I have every book app there is and carry around about 30+ books on it. Movies, videos, Music...all super easy and there are a ton of games. Face Time is awesome with the iPad2 and great if you are far from your loved ones.

If you travel...it's a must.

[DRJDVM's '69]

I keep waxing back and forth....leaning towards getting one...

As for movies.....if I get one, it will be the basic 16 GB....when you do movies are you streaming them, Netflix, digital copies of DVD's you have etc etc.??... I'm assuming the 16 GB can handle a full lenngth movei no problem etc....

we dont have Netflix, but do have a few DVD's that include the digital copy etc...

Not planning on getting the one with 3G wireless capability...just cant justify the extra initial cost and the extra data plan...WiFi will be fine...dont do much business travel either

[Spiffav8]

I keep waxing back and forth....leaning towards getting one...

As for movies.....if I get one, it will be the basic 16 GB....when you do movies are you streaming them, Netflix, digital copies of DVD's you have etc etc.??... I'm assuming the 16 GB can handle a full lenngth movei no problem etc....

we dont have Netflix, but do have a few DVD's that include the digital copy etc...

Not planning on getting the one with 3G wireless capability...just cant justify the extra initial cost and the extra data plan...WiFi will be fine...dont do much business travel either

I have an iPad 1 basic 16GB. I load movies and TV shows via iTunes and Azul. Digital copies of movies are great if you get them via iTunes...at least I think so. Hope they will come out with the VLC app soon.

You might consider the 3G option and then just never activate it. That's what I did. Figure if I ever want to sell the darn thing it will help and it gives me options if I decide I need them. Remember you can do the data plan for just one month or for every month. Whatever fits your needs.

Like I said it's super slick and easy to use. I doubt you will regret getting one.

:cheers:

[WILWAXU]

At&t's top tier 3G plan is only $25.00 a month. WAY to useful not to have it.

I load movies/tv shows on the hard drive, service isn't always connected well enough to stream, plus can't stream while flying. You could still go with a 16g, just means you'll need to manage what you have loaded a little closer.

I find that I surf more with the ipad and than my iphone. The bigger screen trumps every time. Plus you can use regular webpages instead of cobble down mobile ones.

I was in this dilema 2 weeks ago. I needed a new computer and was going to get an Ipad. I realized since I already have an Iphone 4 there is no reason to have an Ipad unless your a baller and want one just because. So Instead I bought a MacBook Air since I can actually use it as a computer. Cant use the Ipad for my Excel, store files, etc.

So yeah, instead get a Macbook Air. Same size almost as the Ipad and WAY COOLER!!!!I was a PC guy until earlier this year.. I got a 13" Air as my new laptop. I like my ipad... but LOVE the Air. :thumbsup:

[wiedemab]

I am an Android guy myself. Several Family Members have iPads and iPad 2's. They love them. Personally I had an iPad for about 4 months and sold it to get the Asus TF101 when it came out. I've never looked back. I like the fact that I can simply pop in a memory card full of movies, pictures etc without having to deal with iTunes and syncing etc.. Yeah I know there is Drop Box and now iCloud, but for me there is just something about being able to swap some memory in and out as desired. I keep a card with movies on it to pop in when traveling - - I can easily throw .mkv files from my Media Center PC that I've recorded onto and it will play anything I can throw at it...OK - off my soap box.

If you like Apple stuff, which you obviously do since you have an iPhone. I think you will like an iPad. If you are open to other products, check out some of the Android Tablets.

I use my Tablet 85% of the time at home and only jump on the PC or Laptop for specific tasks.

Having a ITouch for a while, I am very un-impressed with CPU, software defects (the apps crash -- even ones on the device from the factory), security, and web connectivity.

From what I have see and heard about the IPad, it suffers from similar issues.

My wife asked for a tablet this Christmas and we looked at the IPad, Kindle Fire, and Nook.

The Nook was un-impressive as it only allows you 1GB space for non-B&N content.

The Fire is interesting, but we are in Europe often and it seems the Fire is zone locked. Also, see:http://video.msn.com?vid=d1a91e3b-8d50-4043-9331-1c244de5d7fc&mkt=en-us&from=cp^iv2_en-us_money_blogs-bt-amazon-town&src=CPSmall:shareBar:permalink:uuids.

What I have been watching out for is the new nvidia tegra 3 CPU in a tablet (see: http://www.tegra3.org). It's the first quad core CPU for a tablet.

Just today Amazon started selling the ASUS TF201 (http://www.amazon.com/TF201-B1-GR-Transformer-10-1-Inch-Tablet-Amethyst/dp/B0067PLM5E/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1324524162&sr=1-4). It's about the same price you are looking at, can be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich (the latest Android OS), has very good graphics and gives us space for videos, music, etc.

Here is the difference between dual cores and quad cores:

http://gigaom.com/mobile/nvidia-tegra-3-kal-el-quad-core-demo-video/

Win8 on tablet:

http://www.netbooknews.com/27326/nvidia-tegra-3-ti-omap4430-and-qualcomm-snapdragon-powered-tablets-laptop-running-windows-8/

So, you can guess what the wife is going to get for Christmas.

:cheers:

[DRJDVM's '69]

Ok....so I bought one :) Just got the basic 16 GB one in black.

I've got a couple of DVD's that come with digital copies......is it possible to take my other existing DVD's (no digital copy included) and load them on there? Never done that type of stuff since I had no desire to watch a movie on some tiny screen on my iPhone etc.....

[RECOVERY ROOM]

We have all apple products in the house, I use the pad the most..Its one of those things you cant go without once you have it

[wiedemab]

Ok....so I bought one :) Just got the basic 16 GB one in black.

I've got a couple of DVD's that come with digital copies......is it possible to take my other existing DVD's (no digital copy included) and load them on there? Never done that type of stuff since I had no desire to watch a movie on some tiny screen on my iPhone etc.....

There may be other solutions out there, but from my experience when I had my iPad I did the following (which was a PTA, BTW). There are ways to rip the DVD - I won't go into all of that, but you will need to rip the DVD and then convert it to a format that the iPad likes. I think I used a program called "Handbrake". You then have to load the file onto the iPad through iTunes. This process was one of the frustrations I had with the iPad. It can be done, but most people just opt for the easy solution of just buying it again through iTunes, which I'm sure was part of the plan.......

I loaded 4 or 5 movies onto my iPad before a long trip and it took me all night the night before (literally, 4hrs) to get it done - and I already had the movies ripped. Now I just grab them and drag them onto my Android Tablet or toss them onto a card and away I go - -no converting files etc..

If you Google how to take a DVD and put it onto an iPad I'm sure there are a million different ways to do it.

Maybe someone with more iPad experience will chime in with a better solution. I don't mean to be a downer, but the experience of putting movies on my iPad was not easy.....

Good Luck!

[BBC69Camaro]

An iPad (iPad 2 here) is one of those things you didn't know how fun or how many uses you find for it until you have one.

Watching movies on the go is just one of the very nice things, the screen is so much better than a small iPhone or iTouch so much so there are a lot of enhancements to the iOS ui just for the iPad, not to mention the much faster processor.

But it is basically a time wasting device, but it is very nice email reader, movie watcher, game playing one at that.

[GregWeld]

was a PC guy until earlier this year.. I got a 13" Air as my new laptop. I like my ipad... but LOVE the Air. :thumbsup:



Once you go MAC you never go back!! :cheers: :woot:


My wife was the VP of HR Worldwide for Microsoft for 19 years -- our whole house is APPLE MAC!

[WILWAXU]

Once you go MAC you never go back!! :cheers: :woot:


My wife was the VP of HR Worldwide for Microsoft for 19 years -- our whole house is APPLE MAC!With my experience so far, I can see that being the case.:thumbsup:

[Stuart Adams]

Have the original Ipad. Love it. Never had an issue with it. Very versatile. Great traveling, with the added huge perk of internet on the go - especially when the wife drives!! Great for hotels. You will use it more than you think. No brainer IMO.

[Shmoov69]

Now you guys got me thinking about a droid pad. I got an iPhone and love it, but am not much of a cOmputer guy really. Heck, I do all my surfing on the phone. But at work I use alot of Microsoft Publisher and office stuff, zero mac stuff. If I could do alot of estimates away from the office it would make my home life better I think. I am just at work alot of hours doing the "paperwork" crap that takes time. Is there any drawing or drafting style apps that anyone knows of that could be used on a roof and loaded into the office pc?
Also, can you tether (if that is what it is called?!) to the iPhone for wifi on the road?

[DRJDVM's '69]

Went to a friends house last night for dinner and they have an iPad, so my kids were messing with it...they asked my wife if she wanted one and she flat out said .. "No, dont really have any interest in one.... I'm on a computer all day at work".......great....

Tuff sh*t....I got you one....and you'll love it.. :)

The bottomline is that I know I'll use it 10x as much as her, so one way or another it will get used...

As for movies....I've been using WinX to convert some movies over to iPad and iPod format so they will be ready to try out Xmas day. We got my son an iPod Touch, so he can load some movies too....its an Apple Xmas :)

I tried Handbrake but its not very user friendly and it wouldnt decode the movies I tried....I guess they have Disney X coding. It went through the process but the image was all scrambled up. So I just shelled out some $$ and bought a program....seems to work pretty easy and decodes all the DVD's

I do have my computer hooked to my TV via wireless, but havent used the feature much....seems to be hit or miss if they connect easy, and they transfer speed seems pretty slow. I can look at our stored pictures etc, but its not very fast......not sure DVD movies will work very well

[DRJDVM's '69]

I have a Samsung TV and the Samsung PC Share Manager software blows...... it never seems to work very well....its slow as hell and seems to crash constantly.

Any suggestions of other software on Windows 7 to allow my TV to find my computer and access stuff on it via wireless connection?

I'd love to be able to stream stuff off my PC wireless to my TV and use the Ipad to control it....

[Spiffav8]

I have a Samsung TV and the Samsung PC Share Manager software blows...... it never seems to work very well....its slow as hell and seems to crash constantly.

Any suggestions of other software on Windows 7 to allow my TV to find my computer and access stuff on it via wireless connection?

I'd love to be able to stream stuff off my PC wireless to my TV and use the Ipad to control it....

I connect through the blue tooth on my PS3.

[dubbleu]

Make no mistake the ipad is no laptop computer but for what it is meant to do its pretty sweet. My son is two and a half and he runs that ipad like crazy. It has him counting and learning to read and he enjoys it. Very usefull for young kids. I might have to get another one in the house because everyone is fighting to use it. lol

[fleetus macmullitz]

We have the new iPod touch.

Got me interested in tablets and now this 'phablet/phonezilla', with its little 5.3" screen. :wow:

Here's a thorough review...

pBhEiiMd3qU

Excerpt from this article... http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/home/News.asp?id=66019

"The Galaxy Note's two key standouts - the 5.3-inch Super AMOLED display and the stylus, or “S-Pen” - combine to make it anything but a “me too” device. The screen size places it squarely in the middle of being a smartphone or tablet, while the S-Pen offers another input option that could prove more useful to business users than consumers.

Unlike the styluses of bygone eras, the S-Pen is more intuitive. On the side of the S-Pen is a button that when held down, captures a screenshot of whatever is displayed. This can be anything from a document, photo, video still, app, game, you name it. From there, you can jot down notes, circle important items or scribble what you want on the image, and then save it and immediately share it with a contact over e-mail, multimedia messaging, Bluetooth, Picasa or Samsung's proprietary AllShare platform.

Alternatively, you can move the image to the S Memo app and include it as part of a wider note you compose. The S Memo app is where most of the S-Pen input will take place because it's basically a blank canvas. You can import the image, add a screen grab of a map, and paste text as if it were a bulletin board. Jot down a quick note and you can send that combined image to anyone. Even in the case of a large PowerPoint presentation you're editing, you might not want to send it back in its entirety because of its sheer size. Capture the screen shot of the page you're editing with your notes and send that alone instead."

BTW saw this today...

10% off sale today only on pods and pads at Newegg http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/apple-ipad-ipod-sale-coupon/37556.aspx

[GregWeld]

Once you go Mac you never go back....

:rofl: :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Once you go Mac you never go back....

:rofl: :thumbsup:

I received the iPod touch as a gift.

But as you know Greg, all that glitters is not gold..

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/business/ieconomy-apples-ipad-and-the-human-costs-for-workers-in-china.html?pagewanted=all

[GregWeld]

I received the iPod touch as a gift.

But as you know Greg, all that glitters is not gold..

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/business/ieconomy-apples-ipad-and-the-human-costs-for-workers-in-china.html?pagewanted=all

Well --- they could go back to living in huts with dirt floors I guess... and while I think all humans should be treated fairly and with dignity - sometimes these things take time to turn around. Just as unions once helped to protect US workers but things had to be pretty bad beforehand.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Well --- they could go back to living in huts with dirt floors I guess... and while I think all humans should be treated fairly and with dignity - sometimes these things take time to turn around. Just as unions once helped to protect US workers but things had to be pretty bad beforehand.

Yep, it's a mess there...
__________________________________________________ ______

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2399109,00.asp

"No doubt they're wincing at Apple headquarters and elsewhere over the latest controversy generated by consumer electronics contracting giant Foxconn, though this time at least the bad news doesn't involve exploding factories, poisoned workers, or a string of worker suicides.

Nobody was actually hurt, in fact, though a million Foxconn workers might be a little testy after Terry Gou, chairman of Foxconn parent Hon Hai Precision Industry, compared them to "animals." Gou was speaking at the company's recent annual review meeting when he made the comments, according to WantChinaTimes (http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20120119000111&cid=1102&MainCatID=0).

"Hon Hai has a workforce of over one million worldwide and as human beings are also animals, to manage one million animals gives me a headache," Gou said, according to the website run by Taiwan's China Times News Group.
The Hon Hai chairman was reportedly entertaining Taipei Zoo director Chin Shih-chien onstage when he asked Chin "how animals should be managed" and instructed Hon Hai executives present to listen carefully to the zookeeper's advice.

WantChinaTimes noted wryly that "Gou's words could have been chosen more carefully." Indeed, Foxconn has come under fire (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385782,00.asp) from human rights organizations and labor rights groups in recent years for a series of highly publicized workplace safety breakdowns and allegedly draconian labor practices at its mainland China factories.
Incidents and ongoing controversies at Foxconn facilities in China include a fire last September (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393655,00.asp) at a Shandong province plant where Sony products are assembled, an explosion last May (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385804,00.asp) at a Chengdu plant where Apple's iPad tablets are assembled, and a string of worker suicides (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2386052,00.asp) at factories run by the Hon Hai company.

As insensitive as Gou's words appear to be, the Foxconn boss has at least one defender in the tech press. TechCrunch's John Biggs warned (http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/19/foxconn-chief-equates-employees-to-animals/) that whatever it was Gou said at the event, there could have been "a lot lost in translation."

Besides, Biggs noted, it's important to remember priorities when criticizing such stuff. "[i]n the end, it's companies like Foxconn that keep us in our gadgets," he wrote."

[fleetus macmullitz]

Didn't care what all the fuss was about with the 'i' line of products (I've found Lake Ontario in my backyard to be much more entertaining), but I'm very impressed with the iPod Touch.

[tones2SS]

Didn't care what all the fuss was about with the 'i' line of products (I've found Lake Ontario in my backyard to be much more entertaining), but I'm very impressed with the iPod Touch.

I got one about 2 years ago and love it. I use it for working out and working out in the yard. Great item.

[fleetus macmullitz]

So after a lot of research we got 2 of the iPad3's 4G LTE 16GB versions from Verizon Wireless.

My wife and daughter are very happy with their birthday presents. I'm impressed as well.

[GregWeld]

So after a lot of research we got 2 of the iPad3's 4G LTE 16GB versions from Verizon Wireless.

My wife and daughter are very happy with their birthday presents. I'm impressed as well.


Once you go Mac.... You never go back!

[fleetus macmullitz]

Once you go Mac.... You never go back!

Technically, since they were gifts, I'm still safe.

Me and my Kaypro.


:woot: