Regulator after both filters??

[waynieZ]

I'm putting my regulator at the tank does it have to go after both filters or is it alright to put it after the 100 m and before the 10m? It might be better for packaging but I don't want any chance of a problem.
Thanks

[camcojb]

I've always had it before the 10 micron filter when I did the rear regulator.

[waynieZ]

Thanks Jody

[camcojb]

Thanks Jody
you're welcome Wayne.

[GregWeld]

Yeah Wayne -- you want to be sure to filter BEFORE the pump to protect the pump and AFTER so you don't shove stuff into the injectors. :willy:

Remember that the LOWER THE NUMBER the bigger the particles so a 10 is course and the 100 is fine!

Micron filters are a measurement of how many openings per INCH there are - so there's 10 openings per inch in a 10 micron - and 100 openings per inch in 100 --- so obviously much finer (smaller) openings.

[camcojb]

Yeah Wayne -- you want to be sure to filter BEFORE the pump to protect the pump and AFTER so you don't shove stuff into the injectors. :willy:

Remember that the LOWER THE NUMBER the bigger the particles so a 10 is course and the 100 is fine!

Micron filters are a measurement of how many openings per INCH there are - so there's 10 openings per inch in a 10 micron - and 100 openings per inch in 100 --- so obviously much finer (smaller) openings.

Greg, I believe it's the opposite. 100 microns is a coarser pre-pump filter. Filters down to 100 microns. Less restriction which is what you want on the pump inlet. The 10 micron filter is used on the pressure side, after the pump. It filters down to 10 microns. 10 microns is smaller than 100 microns.

[GregWeld]

YOU'RE RIGHT --- I was watching TV and did it all wrong! Thanks for catching it!

[camcojb]

YOU'RE RIGHT --- I was watching TV and did it all wrong! Thanks for catching it!

no problem Greg. Just didn't want him plumbing it backwards.

[waynieZ]

Here's a diagram of what I'm thinking of I'm going to use all black fittings. I'm going to switch the 10 m filter with the regulator like Jody said.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w11/Hardcore454/Fuel%20system/000_0989.jpg
With these between the 100 M and pump and the Reg and the 10 M
10 orb to orb swivel to make it easier to change the filters.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w11/Hardcore454/Fuel%20system/B9KujswCWkKGrHqFjMEzKUfYRJ5BM5BLCVZIw0_12.jpg
From the pump to the intake on the Regulator I'm not sure. I would like to put a 10 an size U shaped stainless pipe. I'm trying to keep the price palatable. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

[GregWeld]

Don't forget a fuel shut off valve for changing out that filter - or the pump....

[waynieZ]

Greg I'm using the filter with the fuel shut off and I have a check valve to use at the other end unless I find out it not a good idea.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w11/Hardcore454/Fuel%20system/12331.jpg

[GregWeld]

Nice!

I first put my electric pump etc in and didn't put in a shut off... and then I had to clean the filter etc and went "OOPS"....

[waynieZ]

Thanks I'm trying.

[waynieZ]

Hi; Here are the parts I'm trying to mount on a plate attached to the fuel tank straps. The straps are Stainless steel and are holding and original type tank. I'm going to attach the plate with button head bolts with lock nuts. I'm having trouble fitting the regulator because of the location of the return. We were thinking of a fitting going directly from the bottom of the regulator into th bung on the tank. But I'm thinking it might cause problems because of the vibration. It would be secured to the plate but the plate is not held fast to the tank only the straps.
Here is what I want to mount in front of the tank.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w11/Hardcore454/Fuel%20system/000_1015.jpg

The fuel from the tank will come from the back around the passenger side to the filter with the shut off then to the pump. From the pump I'm thinking of using a 180 degree fitting with Teflon hose going to the next filter. Jody suggested the Reg next but with where my return is located I don't know how I'll get it in that way. In the picture above the regulator is sitting right where the bung for the return is on the tank.
Here's a picture of the front of the tank.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w11/Hardcore454/Fuel%20system/000_1010.jpg
The paper you can see on both side are where the straps are.
Here is the return

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w11/Hardcore454/Fuel%20system/000_1011.jpg

Does anyone know the radieus or center to center on a 10 AN 180 degree hose end ?

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w11/Hardcore454/Fuel%20system/TechAFX_ANFitting_180Deg_LRImage.jpg

Thanks

[dirtshark]

33486

#10 XRP and I'm gonna call CtC right on 2"...hope this helps.

[waynieZ]

Thanks Bret.

[GregWeld]

My initial thoughts are -- you're dealing with parts that are too close together to make good plumbing bends etc. and I'm talking about how PARALLEL they are.. not the end to end stuff...

You've got to come out the Weldon pump -- and get over to the outlet side filter -- and dude! That's tight right there... You can do it with hard line -- but a 1/2" (AN -8) bender radius is 1 1/2" .... so you have to have space (length) to bend the tube - get a tube nut on and sleeve on - and then flare it.... and get that tight radius bent and then down over to the inlet of the filter before the regulator.

If it was me - I'd put all that IN LINE and keep that part super simple.

Better send that to Mark at BentFab! :cheers: :D

[waynieZ]

Greg I've been to his site quite a few time today thinking the same.

[GregWeld]

Greg I've been to his site quite a few time today thinking the same.

Since we've been emailing -- I think your new plan is far superior in every way....

Just keep plugging away - one thing at a time... and look at all of these "things" as FUN issues that just have to be solved... they're not obstacles - they're just stuff hanging around waiting for a smart guy like you to come along to solve.

Some guys pass all the 'hard stuff' and do a whole bunch of easy -- but then eventually you end up with all these hard things to do...and that's no fun. It's better to just tackle it - don't do anything until you have a solution that you LIKE and is doable -- but ya keep thinking and asking and eventually a light goes on and bingo it's easy! <well.... sometimes!> :lol: