NCRC and PRO-Touring Events

[Track Junky]

I had a little meeting this afternoon at Dave Mills house to discuss future Pro-Touring Events. Dave Mills is one of the owners of the Northern California Racing Club.
It seems to me that the consensus is that we will definitely want to continue a yearly Buttonwillow event in September and this year the Buttonwillow event will fall on September 15th & 16th. He told me if we chose to, we could label the event anything we wanted and give us our own group if we would like.

I'm not interested in turning this into any sort of competition event, just a get together.

In addition I explained to Dave that we have been also throwing around the idea of a Thunderhill event.

My question to you all is, should I continue to pursue getting our own group thing and making it official or should I just leave it alone and we just sign up for random events.

[sik68]

Thanks for pursuing this for all of us Gaetano!

September BW with everyone was so good, my calendar now revolves around that weekend. I like the idea of making it official with dates, it gives everyone specific milestones to get their act together and the turnout will be much higher.

I am good for about 3-4 events a year, so you can count me in for at least 1 thunderhill and 1 buttonwillow with NCRC per year. We would probably need at least 10 cars per event for NCRC to give us our own group right?

[Track Junky]

Thanks for your interest Steven and yes the magic minimum number will be ten. In addition he will also set aside our own Paddock space.

He told me that he is 90% finished with locking in the Thunderhill dates and will have them posted up within days.

[Vegas69]

I like the idea of having our own run group. I'm definitely in for Buttonwillow. :thumbsup:

[Spiffav8]

Sounds good to me.

:captain:

[GregWeld]

Explain the difference between the NCRS and "our" RTTX events....

Or say - the Northern California Shelby Clubs "track days" that I ran at Thunderhill. They had 3 groups and ran 20 minute sessions per group.

[GregWeld]

Explain the difference between the NCRS and "our" RTTX events....

Or say - the Northern California Shelby Clubs "track days" that I ran at Thunderhill. They had 3 groups and ran 20 minute sessions per group.



Their website kinda indicates that they're RACING events..... so I'm must asking'....

[Flash68]

Sounds good! But don't forget Howell is supposedly very close to announcing a date for Thunderhill for RTT-whatever for October 2012 I believe I read.

I am definitely in for the Buttonwillow track day next year that I recently missed.

Thanks for working the back channels, G. :thumbsup:

Greg, NCRC is another one of many track day organizers and club racing sponsors, very much like the Shelby Club, except a littler more open minded. :D This is not a replacement or equivalent for a RTTx event.

NCRC does have a Time Trial deal.... G, you said you were gonna switch to that I believe instead of doing NASA again?

[Track Junky]

Sounds good! But don't forget Howell is supposedly very close to announcing a date for Thunderhill for RTT-whatever for October 2012 I believe I read.

I am definitely in for the Buttonwillow track day next year that I recently missed.

Thanks for working the back channels, G. :thumbsup:

Greg, NCRC is another one of many track day organizers and club racing sponsors, very much like the Shelby Club, except a littler more open minded. :D This is not a replacement or equivalent for a RTTx event.

NCRC does have a Time Trial deal.... G, you said you were gonna switch to that I believe instead of doing NASA again?

Thanks Dave, and I'm glad you mentioned it. What I would like to do is try and get Bill Howell and Dave together and maybe that will help Bill in getting the Thunderhill gig together.

NCRC does have a Time Trial group but you do not need to run the Time Trial group for lap times. You could get timed in any group except the school group.

And yes, I am switching over to NCRC from NASA due to track day costs. On top of that NCRC gives 5 sessions as opposed to 4 with NASA.

I know we are going to get a great turnout at Buttonwillow but how many are interested in a Thunderhill event?

Oh, and Greg, NCRC is probably alot like the Shelby club.

[GregWeld]

Thanks Dave, and I'm glad you mentioned it. What I would like to do is try and get Bill Howell and Dave together and maybe that will help Bill in getting the Thunderhill gig together.

NCRC does have a Time Trial group but you do not need to run the Time Trial group for lap times. You could get timed in any group except the school group.

And yes, I am switching over to NCRC from NASA due to track day costs. On top of that NCRC gives 5 sessions as opposed to 4 with NASA.

I know we are going to get a great turnout at Buttonwillow but how many are interested in a Thunderhill event?

Oh, and Greg, NCRC is probably alot like the Shelby club.



Thanks! I've only ever done one of these (the NCSC) so it's all new to me.:woot:

[Track Junky]

I sent an e-mail to Bill Howell regarding NCRC's willingness to cater to us as needed.

I'll keep y'all posted.

[Vegas69]

I don't see the need to drag Bill Howell into the deal. The american street car series is basically the same at NCRC. I like the road race only event.

[LM7_67]

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[Track Junky]

I don't see the need to drag Bill Howell into the deal. The american street car series is basically the same at NCRC. I like the road race only event.

Bills ASC series has a 200 tw requirement. I'm sure that has alot to do with insurance costs. Since we are doing this through NCRC and the track days are only $99 plus $10 for timing should we start a 100 tw series?

Call our group gig the "NCRC Muscle Car Challenge"?

[Vegas69]

Just show up and have fun with a group of 10-20 guys.

[Flash68]

I don't see the need to drag Bill Howell into the deal. The american street car series is basically the same at NCRC. I like the road race only event.

Agreed.... for the most part...

The ASCS (RTTx) and NCRC as very different. NCRC is equivalent to OCRC (Orange County Race Craft) who is another organizer and "supervisor" of track events/open track days. Same as Trackmasters, Speedventures, ExtremeSpeedTrackEvents, etc etc.... They are the ones who essentially "managed" the RTTC event I was at earlier this year. Nathan (who drove Rupp's car at El Toro) runs events at El Toro all the time.

G -- I guess you could say Bill could be looking for assistance to help run his events at the local level, but he has been doing this for years and seems to be putting things into place to grow it.


Bills ASC series has a 200 tw requirement. I'm sure that has alot to do with insurance costs. Since we are doing this through NCRC and the track days are only $99 plus $10 for timing should we start a 100 tw series?

Call our group gig the "NCRC Muscle Car Challenge"?

Bill does that for safety reasons (remember, each event has a 80ish mile cruise -- rain or shine) and I really don't think it has to do with insurance. He is always vocally adamant about his events being a true STREET car event and takes it pretty seriously.

Not sure on a formal name and a treadwear minimum... how formal and serious do you want to try to make this?

Just show up and have fun with a group of 10-20 guys.

:thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

I think that's the only way Bill can run an event at El Toro due to the City of Irvine. Let's keep it simple. If they will give us a run group with a minimum of 15 cars and a max, then let's just do it that way. We'll call it the let's race, drink beer, and bull **** the night away. :thumbsup: I'd say we do it by invitation and they must pony up and reserve a spot on the NCRC site.

[CarlC]

The RTTx series of events have been qualifiers for the OUSCI which has a 200tw requirement. One can run whatever tire they want at these events but only 200tw+ tires can qualify for the OUSCI spot.

We've had these track days before. It always works out the best when there's minimal structure to the event. Just run what-ya-brung and have fun.

It would be very cool to have a PT class of our own pending driver eligibility. Newbies would need to take the novice/instructor class and the fast guys may want to move up for a session or two depending on how the mix goes.

I'm all for paying up front to get a session of our own. Non-refundable unless you find someone to take your spot or there is a waiting list. If it's planned this far in advance our chances of filling the run group are much better.

I'll start. Where do I sign up?

[Vegas69]

Me too....:thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

OK, sounds good. We'll keep it simple and run what you bring. If we have our own group he said ten minimum so I think we are in good shape there.

But if we want our own run group we will have to sign up under a certain category with NCRC and on their site. That will give Dave verification and give him the green light in setting up a time slot for us. What do we label the group on the NCRC site?

Also, at this point should I just tell him we are only going to do a Buttonwillow gig or should we add Thunderhill?

[73CPCAMARO]

I would love to join you guys and I am up for either site. Thunderhill is closer for me, so I like that a bit more. Sound like a blast. Having our own group is great as we have similar cars and power.

Brian

[Track Junky]

I would love to join you guys and I am up for either site. Thunderhill is closer for me, so I like that a bit more. Sound like a blast. Having our own group is great as we have similar cars and power.

Brian

Brian, we need at least 10 cars for our own run group at Thunderhill. As far as I know so far We have me, you, Dave G, and Steven.

Dave Mills will have the Thunderhill track dates up soon.

On another note, I was just looking at the lap times on the NCRC site from Buttonwilllow last Sept 17th at Buttonwillow and we were amongst the top 11 fastest cars in lap times at the event.

I thought that was pretty impressive!!

[Flash68]

I am definitely in for Thunderhill and/or Buttonwillow.

[Vegas69]

Brian, we need at least 10 cars for our own run group at Thunderhill. As far as I know so far We have me, you, Dave G, and Steven.

Dave Mills will have the Thunderhill track dates up soon.

On another note, I was just looking at the lap times on the NCRC site from Buttonwilllow last Sept 17th at Buttonwillow and we were amongst the top 11 fastest cars in lap times at the event.

I thought that was pretty impressive!!

I wonder how many had transponders though? Pretty small list compared to the turn out. I can gurantee nobody in solo was out running us since I passed them all. :unibrow:
http://www.ncracing.org/results/110917_Open_Track_Lap_Times.pdf

[Track Junky]

I wonder how many had transponders though? Pretty small list compared to the turn out. I can gurantee nobody in solo was out running us since I passed them all. :unibrow:
http://www.ncracing.org/results/110917_Open_Track_Lap_Times.pdf

I'm going to set up so that we are all in point by next time around. I was amazed looking at your lap times and how they bounced around up until your last two laps.

My car was way off tune wise and having a faulty air pressure gauge, being up for 20 hrs straight, and then only getting 4 hours sleep before the event certainly didn't help. Out of 5 25 minute sessions I only got 12 laps in total for the whole day :lol: .

[Vegas69]

Don't forget that I ran in Solo with about 25 cars and passed about 50. I got in 2 clean laps the whole day out of 27 laps. Even one of my last two I had to pass a car. I barely slowed down and didn't wait for the point by. :lol: Then I missed a gear on my last lap so they were damn near even. I can't wait to run point by with you guys. :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

Don't forget that I ran in Solo with about 25 cars and passed about 50. I got in 2 clean laps the whole day out of 27 laps. Even one of my last two I had to pass a car. I barely slowed down and didn't wait for the point by. :lol: Then I missed a gear on my last lap so they were damn near even. I can't wait to run point by with you guys. :thumbsup:

Yeah, next time around should be pretty fun. I'll try and leave Sevilla at home next time so I can get some sleep :lol:

[Track Junky]

Awesome News!! I just got an e-mail from Dave Mills and he says that Liz Miles of Chevy High Performance Magazine participated in an NCRC event earlier this year and will be doing a write up on her experience. I am currently trying to get a hold of Liz at this time to see if she will cover our September event.

If we have enough cars for Thunderhill maybe we can get her to cover that also.

I need to get a list of cars and drivers and which event ASAP!!

[ivmotor]

I'm in for thunderhill...that is if you will let my ugly pig out with y'all. If anybody's interested I have track days at Reno-Fernley if anybody want to try that track.

[73CPCAMARO]

Awesome News!! I just got an e-mail from Dave Mills and he says that Liz Miles of Chevy High Performance Magazine participated in an NCRC event earlier this year and will be doing a write up on her experience. I am currently trying to get a hold of Liz at this time to see if she will cover our September event.

If we have enough cars for Thunderhill maybe we can get her to cover that also.

I need to get a list of cars and drivers and which event ASAP!!

I just need the date in order for me to confirm. Next year I plan on going to Nebraska for the SCCA Solo II National Championship. I have a few dates I have already booked. It looks like the Buttonwillow date will be at the time I am coming home from Nebraska and that would be too close for me. Hopefully the Thunderhill date will be okay for me.

[Track Junky]

Brian, hope you can keep September 15 & 16 open for the Buttonwillow event.

Thunderhill dates have not been posted yet and should be up soon. Once the are posted we will work on picking a date that works well for all if possible.

[Flash68]

http://www.ncracing.org/results/110917_Open_Track_Lap_Times.pdf

Man, Steven's time of 2:20 being only a few seconds behind you heavy hitters with your wide and sticky tires and 150-200 more hp REALLY impresses me the most. :thumbsup:

Can't wait to bring my hunk of junk out to run with you girls. :cool:

[Vegas69]

I agree, Steven is kickin some ass. :thumbsup:

[sik68]

Thanks for the compliments guys. I used all my mushrooms on that one lap :lol:

Definitely in for Thunderhill and BW dates.

I'm also looking at getting my own data logger/lap timer to chart progress. I'd be willing to share data with anyone faster than me :unibrow:

[LM7_67]

BW is probably doable for me, but Thunderhill is quite the drive, don't know if I could make that one.

[Track Junky]

BW is probably doable for me, but Thunderhill is quite the drive, don't know if I could make that one.

Can I get a first and last name from you

[Track Junky]

Just got an e-mail from Dave Mills and he told me that he had been following this thread. What he would like to do is give us our own group amongst the "Chrono Series" group. Chrono series is basically a time trials group and of course you would have to qualify by experience level.

We would basically be running amongst other cars just like we did in solo, point by, and open but with our own group title as long as there were at least 10 pt cars entered.

He also mentioned that he could not give us an exclusive pt time slot without having what I am guessing at least 40 or so cars and all drivers within the same experience level but I did ask the question of how many cars for an exclusive time slot and am waiting on a response.

Your thoughts on this.......

[ivmotor]

40 cars is a bunch. I could bring 5 PT cars but track experience will not be equal. If we run similar lap times to another group we should just keep track of PT seperately.

[LM7_67]

Can I get a first and last name from you

YGPM.

[Track Junky]

40 cars is a bunch. I could bring 5 PT cars but track experience will not be equal. If we run similar lap times to another group we should just keep track of PT seperately.


I agree, 40 cars is alot but Dave is running a business and it would have to make sense to him financially in order to give us our own time slot.

We also need to consider skill level as each individual should take the group that best suits their individual skill level.

I think we should just play this out by ear and see what the turnout will be. After all, this is just the beginning.

[Chad-1stGen]

Gaetano,

Saw the thread over on PT first. Missed this one until now since this site isn't compatible with my iPhone.

I'm down for this event and will commit with a deposit/prepayment whenever I need to.

For anyone on the fence who hasn't run with NCRC before, these guys are a first rate track day organization. I enjoy running with just about anyone who will let me on the track with my car but NCRC has the most polished/professional vibe of the organizers I've run with before. A perfect setting to get your feet wet with "track days" if you have been wondering.

I've posted this a few times before but here is a lap done with NCRC earlier this year at Buttonwillow #13CW.

C'mon peeps lets rock this thing!

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[Vegas69]

Not sounding to promising. The skill sets are all over the board in PT. It's going to be hard to get 40 cars for a road race only event. The RTTC type events cater to everybody. They also feature easy locations.

[Track Junky]

Not sounding to promising. The skill sets are all over the board in PT. It's going to be hard to get 40 cars for a road race only event. The RTTC type events cater to everybody. They also feature easy locations.

I agree, skill level is across the board. The cool thing is that Dave is willing to work with us. Down the road(say a few years)as we gain experiece I can see things changing.

All we could do at this point is play this out by ear.

[Vegas69]

Maybe we could start with having X amount of spots available for the event.

[Track Junky]

Maybe we could start with having X amount of spots available for the event.

I like that idea. I think we have plenty of us that can qualify for the point by group.

My question is, do we want to step up into Chrono series or should we just do point by?

It's not like we need to make any decisions right away. Hell, I had a great time last time we were there and we had guy's signed up in all groups across the board.

[Chad-1stGen]

I assumed the 40 car thing was off the table from the start. RTTC barely got 55 cars the first year with a heck of a lot more promotion and ties to the industry.

I'm happy if we can get a decent turn out and don't think we all need to try and run in the same run group. Just to big of a disparity in skill level. There will no doubt be fellow PT cars in just about any of the run groups and its fun watching the action of the other PT cars in between your own run sessions.

[Track Junky]

I assumed the 40 car thing was off the table from the start. RTTC barely got 55 cars the first year with a heck of a lot more promotion and ties to the industry.

I'm happy if we can get a decent turn out and don't think we all need to try and run in the same run group. Just to big of a disparity in skill level. There will no doubt be fellow PT cars in just about any of the run groups and its fun watching the action of the other PT cars in between your own run sessions.

I agree. At this point and time the skill level is across the board. Definitely too soon for an exclusive pt group and time slot.

I e-mailed Dave and told him we are going to play this by ear and let the chips fall where they may.

Either way it's a good time.

Nice of Dave to show interest and offer to lend a hand though. I can see things turning around a bit in the next few years.

[Flash68]

Agree with pretty much all that's been said on this last page... 40 cars ain't happenin, let alone 20....

And the 2 times I've run with Chad and some a few other PT guys down at Willow Springs, we were often in different run groups and still had a great time.

Based on where we are now, what are we trying to accomplish that is above and beyond (i.e. a better experience) than what happened at Buttonwillow in Sept?

[Track Junky]

So far interested peeps for Buttonwillow are:

Gaetano C
Carl C
Dave G
Jon R
Steven M
Chad
Asif
Matt B
Todd A
Bret
Tom
John S

Feel free to fill in anybody I missed but all in all this is a good start.

Just a reminder, this event tends to fill up quick so be sure to sign up early.
For those of you that have not visited the NCRC site here is the cost break down:

Track Day $99
Non Member Fee $10
Lap Timing $10
Transponder Rental $10

Run Group Format:

Group

Passing Rules

Minimum Experience

Race
Wheel to wheel racing, under "gentleman's rules" - no contact allowedPrevious racing experience, race license with no suspensions, or approval from ARC management
Chrono Time Trials
Full track mandatory passing with no point-by 8+ track days experience (Point-By or Open equivalent).
drivers must drive with colored tag on rear of car to signal other drivers.
Open
Full track mandatory passing with no point-by. 20+ Track days experience in a car, or 15 track days with race or driving school background
Point-By
Full track mandatory passing with point-by. 8-20 Track days experience in a car, on multiple tracks
Solo
Mandatory passing on straights with point-by, optional passing in some turns. 1-7 Previous track days experience in a car
Driving School
School-specificNo track experience

[Nessumsar]

Gea,

Just want to make sure that the "John R" and "Matt" are actually Jon R. and Matt B.

I'm really looking forward to getting on track with you guys this time around, might even get to test out my point-by finger... :cheers:

[Track Junky]

Gea,

Just want to make sure that the "John R" and "Matt" are actually Jon R. and Matt B.

I'm really looking forward to getting on track with you guys this time around, might even get to test out my point-by finger... :cheers:

Thanks, Jon. Yup, its you guy's. I'll fix it.

This is always my favorite event. Looking forward to seeing you guy's there. :thumbsup:

[Chad-1stGen]

Just a reminder, this event tends to fill up quick so be sure to sign up early.
For those of you that have not visited the NCRC site here is the cost break down:

Track Day $99
Non Member Fee $10
Lap Timing $10
Transponder Rental $10



wow. Gaetano I had no idea we could sign up already. Anyone else sign up yet? I'll commit to one day now, just not sure about commiting to both this far out. Curious if others on your list of commits are down for both days or are picking one?

[Track Junky]

wow. Gaetano I had no idea we could sign up already. Anyone else sign up yet? I'll commit to one day now, just not sure about commiting to both this far out. Curious if others on your list of commits are down for both days or are picking one?

Yes, registration is already open. I dont know if anyone has signed up yet but the list is from the guy's that have said they would be there.

I'll be signing up for Saturday by the end of the week.

The Thunderhill events have not been posted yet. Dave said that he gave them the dates and is waiting on Thunderhill's approval.

[Flash68]

I have not signed up yet. The only events that seem to sell out quickly and well in advance are Laguna Seca days.

That said, I will probably also sign up for Saturday sooner rather than later and then play Sunday by ear. September seems so darn far away! :mad:

:theresa:

[CarlC]

Point-by at the most. I don't like to be on a track with peeps that I don't know and have no idea of their willingness to trade paint in a no-point-by scenario. Safety is better than over-chancing.

[Track Junky]

NCRC Thunderhill dates have been posted.

2012 Schedule

Mon January 23, Thunderhill
Sat February 11, Thunderhill
Sat March 3, Thunderhill
Sat March 31, Buttonwillow
Sun April 1, Buttonwillow
Sat April 7, Thunderhill
Sun April 8, Thunderhill
Fri May 4, Thunderhill
Fri June 15, Thunderhill
Sat June 30, Thunderhill
Sun July 1, Thunderhill
Mon July 16, Thunderhill
Sat August 11, Thunderhill
Sun August 12, Thunderhill
Fri August 24, Thunderhill
Sat September 15, Buttonwillow
Sun September 16, Buttonwillow
Fri September 21, Thunderhill
Fri October 12, Thunderhill

[Flash68]

Point-by at the most. I don't like to be on a track with peeps that I don't know and have no idea of their willingness to trade paint in a no-point-by scenario. Safety is better than over-chancing.

Probably a good idea for all.

NCRC Thunderhill dates have been posted.

2012 Schedule

Mon January 23, Thunderhill
Sat February 11, Thunderhill
Sat March 3, Thunderhill
Sat March 31, Buttonwillow
Sun April 1, Buttonwillow
Sat April 7, Thunderhill
Sun April 8, Thunderhill
Fri May 4, Thunderhill
Fri June 15, Thunderhill
Sat June 30, Thunderhill
Sun July 1, Thunderhill
Mon July 16, Thunderhill
Sat August 11, Thunderhill
Sun August 12, Thunderhill
Fri August 24, Thunderhill
Sat September 15, Buttonwillow
Sun September 16, Buttonwillow
Fri September 21, Thunderhill
Fri October 12, Thunderhill

Looks like Sept shouldn't be selling out too soon. :D

[Track Junky]

Looks like they are only having two Buttonwillow weekends this year. March one may get rained out. I'm pretty sure come July/August the Sept Buttonwillow event will be sold out.
Just sayin'.........

[clill]

Used to be when you went to ncrc site the opening pic would show a bunch of cars on the track including the Thrasher that Stielow built. I'm member # 4 with ncrc. Feeling old.

[Track Junky]

Used to be when you went to ncrc site the opening pic would show a bunch of cars on the track including the Thrasher that Stielow built. I'm member # 4 with ncrc. Feeling old.

Member #4???? Damn :thumbsup:

[clill]

Actually I am 104 but they started with I think Dave mills being 101, his partner 102 somebody 103 and me 104

[Track Junky]

Actually I am 104 but they started with I think Dave mills being 101, his partner 102 somebody 103 and me 104

Your a fortunate guy to be able to stay in the game for so long.

Hope to see you out at Thunderhill this season. And see if you can drag Greg Weld out with us.

[Track Junky]

I contacted Liz Miles a long ways back and asked her if she would cover the September 15th NCRC Buttonwillow event since we had such a great turnout last year.
I finally got an e-mail back from her tonight and she said she would mention it to one of her editors.
There may be a possibility we get a little ink in one of the mags she writes and photos for. :thumbsup:

[steve671]

Do I need a cage to run at these events?

[Flash68]

Do I need a cage to run at these events?

No. More info here:

http://www.ncracing.org/car-requirements.php

[steve671]

No. More info here:

http://www.ncracing.org/car-requirements.php

Thanks.

[DFRESH]

Forgive me for asking since I am sure it's posted here, but what dates is everyone attending and who is signed up already?

I'm in if all the boys are going---just want to make sure I have my car ready for it---

D

[Flash68]

Sept 15-16...

This thread isn't the easiest to find the info... maybe it could be cleaned up...

G -- maybe ask to change the title of the thread? and you could add the RSVP list to the first post and update it there accordingly.

http://www.ncracing.org/events.php

[GregWeld]

Sept 15-16...

This thread isn't the easiest to find the info... maybe it could be cleaned up...

G -- maybe ask to change the title of the thread? and you could add the RSVP list to the first post and update it there accordingly.

http://www.ncracing.org/events.php



Good suggestion Dave!

Okay -- next up is hotel -- where are we making camp??

[Track Junky]

All the motels are on Tracy Ave. As far as accomodations go the NCRC host motel is the Motel 6 at the end of Tracy. Cheap but not the cleanest. There is a Motel 6 in the middle of Tracy Ave also that we call Motel 6 Central. Alot cleaner then the Motel 6 on the end. And then IIRC a Super 8 that is probably the cleanest.
What I normally do is stay at the central Motel 6 and ask them for the Speed Ventures discount. That will save you a few bones.
I think it will probably boil down to what you want to spend on accomodations because we will most likely hang out, BBQ, and socialize at the track till bed time.

[Track Junky]

Buttonwillow Hotels (http://www.buttonwillowraceway.com/foodhotels.htm#):


RED ROOF INN (http://www.affordablelodging.net/)
20645 Tracy Rd.
Buttonwillow, CA 93206
661-764-5121
SUPER 8 (http://www.super8.com/Super8/control/Booking/check_avail?areaCode=&brandCode=SE,RA,MQ,HJ,TL,DI,KG,BU,BH&searchWithinMiles=25&areaType=1&destination=buttonwillow&state=CA&country=US&checkInDate=12/18&numberAdults=1&numberRooms=1&checkOutDate=12/19&numberChildren=0&numberBigChildren=0&rate=000&variant=&id=08396&propBrandId=SE&force_nostay=false)
20681 Tracy Ave.
Buttonwillow, CA 93206
phone (http://www.buttonwillowraceway.com/foodhotels.htm#): 661-764-5117
fax: 661-764-6676
Econo Lodge Inn & Suites (http://www.econolodge.com/hotel-buttonwillow-california-CAB68?sid=nknfg.$hkPtgF15.8&sarea=&sname=93206&sstate=&scountry=&sradius=&slat=35.4119&slon=-119.4617&schain=E&exp=&scity=&sort=&type=&map=n&rstart=Starting+Location&rend=Ending+Location&srp=RACK&nroom=1&nadult1=1&nchild1=0&nadult2=1&nchild2=0&nadult3=1&nchild3=0&nadult4=1&nchild4=0&nadult5=1&nchild5=0&sstate_country=)
20688 Tracy Ave.
Buttonwillow, CA 93206
661-764-5207
MOTEL 6 (http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.aspx?num=4533&VID=&NOA=&aYr=&aMo=&aDa=&dYr=&dMo=&dDa=&CP=&TA=&BTR=/AccorMaps/M6ProximityResults.aspx?searchtype=C)
20645 Tracy Ave.
I-5, Exit #257
Buttonwillow, CA.
Phone: (661) 764-5121

[Flash68]

Ok, for those subscribed to this thread and showed your interest before in a previous months ago below:

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Gaetano C
Carl C
Dave G
Jon R
Steven M
Chad
Asif
Matt B
Todd A
Bret
Tom
John S
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Please RSVP here:

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=36091

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[DFRESH]

Add me to the list --

This is too good of a crowd to miss out on this one---

Charley, bring out JA---it's for purely selfish reasons---I would like to go for a ridealong in it if possible!

Doug

[67zo6Camaro]

Im still in.

[Cris@JCG]

I am in!

[Chad-1stGen]

I'm on the fence....

Haha no seriously that is how freekin gun shy I am from this latest upgrade experience. It's been 8 months since I started this "easy project" so I'm sure it can find a way to screw me out of this event again this year.

[67zo6Camaro]

I'm on the fence....

Haha no seriously that is how freekin gun shy I am from this latest upgrade experience. It's been 8 months since I started this "easy project" so I'm sure it can find a way to screw me out of this event again this year.

Should I confirm that you will be there for you. I know you can make it.:thumbsup:

[Chad-1stGen]

Should I confirm that you will be there for you. I know you can make it.:thumbsup:

Well I'm much more confident in my ability to make it with backing from Fab53! :)

BTW Brett, I'm scheduled to take a trailer and pick up the car on Thursday. So far I'm coming up empty handed on getting someone who doesn't work M-F to help me unload it at the house in HB... you know, if you are around :p

[CarlC]

I'm in, two days, point-by.