whats your opinion if this ?

[Datsbad]

this is mock up completely . just trying to do something a little different.

[Speedster]

I think they look good. Reminds me of the '70-'72 Corvette. If you get it figured out, could you post updated pics. I have been looking for ideas besides the 'ol plain round dual exhaust. The other was the dual pipes coming out the middle, but for me that puts it too close to the fuel system...BOOM !

[Datsbad]

yeah when i get it all figured out i will show you . I still am not sure what it might do to the paint and bodywork required to make it perfect . the heat on the tip bothers me a little . I might not be able to make it a real nice tight fit .

i wonder if some sort of powdercoating will hold up , the ring brother mustang had something like this , I need to call mike and discuss it with him .

I hope to do some sort of fabriacted box tip on the front lower valance for brake coolers also . I will show you all soon .

I am open to all comments , good or bad . thanks

[96z28ss]

mock up? looks like your commited to doing it cause you already cut the car up. Mocking it up would be doing it on a junk tail panel. And seeing if its looks right.
With the RS lights I think the tip will have to have a more rectangle look to it cause it looks like there are to many block shapes down below the bumper line. It looks like what you have done is something like the Ring Brothers Mustang

I too will have exhaust exit the tail panel, I also will have the RS light to deal with. Good thing is your furthur ahead than i am so I get to see what it looks like on yours.

[Datsbad]

Oh I am commited to doing it just to be a little different . I just meant the grinding , welding and the tip is mock up . the tip will be a little smaller when done. and it is a rectangle like the rs back up light , here is another pic

[Todds69]

I like it. Keep the pics coming. :thumbsup:

[Datsbad]

sorry man thats it for now . more when its finished.
next is the front brake cooling ducts. :unibrow:

[jigga99]

hey i think it looks killer, nice one of the nicest exhaust outlets so far, i think it would look cleaner with out the reverse lights what you think?

[Datsbad]

I agree on the reverse light deal . But i just cant bring my self to elimnate them on an Original RS car , also I will hopefully have some new jewelry for out back to dress it up :unibrow:

Foose's car has round pipes and those queer little round reverse lights they use on every car they put together it seems like , I wanted to retain some factory stlying cues with this . Ya know custom but not totally !

[Blake Foster]

IMO i would radius the outside to match the flow of the lower QP and round the corners a bit.................... but i really like the idea

[third base]

That looks kind of familiar? I used 1970 cuda exhaust tips though. Looks good!

[Datsbad]

cool , I am glad you like it , means alot since you guys are doing the best exhaust set up i have ever seen on a 69 , got anymore pics you could email me of that thing ?

i understand what your saying but i am thinking i need it to stick out some to prevent any damage to the paint generated by the exhaust tip . whats your take on this . when i do body work do you think the heat will affect anything? remeber this is going to be a car that is used , not just sitting around looking pretty !

IMO i would radius the outside to match the flow of the lower QP and round the corners a bit.................... but i really like the idea

[1970cuda]

maybe a 1970 cuda rear tips might work

[Datsbad]

That looks kind of familiar? I used 1970 cuda exhaust tips though. Looks good!


yours looks way cool , but you have the advantage at some point with that fuel tank . I on the other hand have the advantage of no leaf springs as you do . I sure am thinking of other ways to do the next car . I might apply some of this knowledge to the convertible when i get to that point .

also, will your tips sit close to the paint? think it will harm it?

since I dont have a narrowed tank , I am limited to the size . If i had a custom narrowed tank I would have a much better chance of getting away with more room without the leafs also , that would make for the most room . or even better a fuel tank in the trunk , I personally am no fan of fuel cells in the trunk .

[1970cuda]

boy i must post really slow lol

[Datsbad]

boy i must post really slow lol
no problem , Its the thought that counts right ]?

[third base]

yours looks way cool , but you have the advantage at some point with that fuel tank . I on the other hand have the advantage of no leaf springs as you do . I sure am thinking of other ways to do the next car . I might apply some of this knowledge to the convertible when i get to that point .

also, will your tips sit close to the paint? think it will harm it?

since I dont have a narrowed tank , I am limited to the size . If i had a custom narrowed tank I would have a much better chance of getting away with more room without the leafs also , that would make for the most room . or even better a fuel tank in the trunk , I personally am no fan of fuel cells in the trunk .

Putting a fuel cell in was an advantage, but, I would never do it again. My tips reveal is about 1/8"-3/16" away from the paint. I don't think that the tips will get hot enough to damage the paint. I was warned by others not to run them totally flush though. This because of the exhaust itself, and the fear of carbon deposits forming on the paint. I wasn't too worried so I went against the warnings and did it anyway. I didn't want to compromise the look. I figured it would be an easy fix if it did happen. I think you will be fine. Keep us updated. :thumbsup:

[BC69]

I like it! What are you going to do to prevent it from rattling? Is there any noise issues with it so close to the panel, or heat issues?

Tim

[Steve1968LS2]

What about some sort of thermal coating?? (instead of powder)

Looks cool.. would be bit worried about the heat though..

[Speedster]

Another possibility for this setup is to make "a box within a box". In other words have an air gap between two rectangles to act as a heat sheild. The other possibility is to make the cutouts in the rear valence large enough to allow airflow around the exhaust to try to keep the heat reasonable.

[Speedster]

Sparky -
Yeah, I guess that's possible, I just don't want too much heat by the fuel tank sump outlets. I will have enough trouble with fuel heating just by the fuel pumps themselves. But it would look very cool ! :thumbsup:

[MaxHarvard]

Damn nice! i love it.

[Blake Foster]

what we are doing on the camaro we are building right now.
if you imagine a 20" wide opening just below the bumper that widens out to about 30" at the bottom of the valance with a slightly rounded profile and a tip that follows the outer edge contour and is about 4" wide at the top and vertical on the inside edge with the license plate mounted between the 2 tips
I can post some pics of the opening on monday but here is a rough drawing of the idea
See the third picture down

http://www.killercustoms.ca/images/gallery/69camarov2/main.htm (http://)

[Datsbad]

what we are doing on the camaro we are building right now.
if you imagine a 20" wide opening just below the bumper that widens out to about 30" at the bottom of the valance with a slightly rounded profile and a tip that follows the outer edge contour and is about 4" wide at the top and vertical on the inside edge with the license plate mounted between the 2 tips
I can post some pics of the opening on monday but here is a rough drawing of the idea
See the third picture down

http://www.killercustoms.ca/images/gallery/69camarov2/main.htm (http://)

cant wait to see them . I would have loved to do this but did not want to fight with fuel tank issues.

what tank are you guys running?

[Jims78elky]

I like it! :thumbsup:


-Jim

[Ricochet]

what we are doing on the camaro we are building right now.
if you imagine a 20" wide opening just below the bumper that widens out to about 30" at the bottom of the valance with a slightly rounded profile and a tip that follows the outer edge contour and is about 4" wide at the top and vertical on the inside edge with the license plate mounted between the 2 tips
I can post some pics of the opening on monday but here is a rough drawing of the idea
See the third picture down

http://www.killercustoms.ca/images/gallery/69camarov2/main.htm (http://)


Sorry to hi-jack this thread..But Killer..Whose wheels are those?? Car is looking great!!

[Blake Foster]

We actually built an Aluminum fuel tank for the car. we cut out the entire trunk from frame to frame and the rear to the factory lap joint at the front of the trunk. then welded in a cross member to mount the shocks and internally mount the tube type sway bar, the end links are actually in the inner fender well and can be seen behind the brake rotor. Then built a fuel tank to fit the hole that was left and the tank is now the trunk floor. with enough room for the exhaust to run down the side with the muffer mounted in the back up behind the rear tire ( where the leaf springs used to sit) and then the tubing flows into the side of the exhaust tip and then out the back.


As for the wheels they are made by Asanti and are 3 peice forged. not cheep but not as expensive as HRE's and they have some very nice Euro styles. the beaumont on the site has them as well but a different style.

[Datsbad]

killer , how about some pics to my email ? [email protected]

this sounds very nice!

[TravisB]

3/16 to 1/4 is plenty of room between the paint and exhaust tip...so that shouldn't be a problem, I would HPC coat them though

[Musclerodz]

There shouldn't be a lot of heat back there except during hard driving. The biggest thing I have noticed when exhaust exits like that is sometimes it will leave a sooty residue you have to keep cleaning. I like the idea and was thinking of something like that on my '68. The other thing I would look at while you are messing with sheetmetal is to see if you can line up the reverse light with the tip. Looks odd being offset in the pic.

Mike

[Datsbad]

actually there has been a change of plans . the RS rear lights are gone . It was to busy back there to me that way . i might not use them , but i am looking at options of other lights smaller and moved in farther to get them away from the tip . I was worried also about the heat from the exhaust rolling up on the rs light and discoloring it in some way .

I will update you with some pics tonight of it without the lights at all .

[TravisB]

actually there has been a change of plans . the RS rear lights are gone . It was to busy back there to me that way . i might not use them , but i am looking at options of other lights smaller and moved in farther to get them away from the tip . I was worried also about the heat from the exhaust rolling up on the rs light and discoloring it in some way .

I will update you with some pics tonight of it without the lights at all .

dam I was going to mention that in my e-mail jason.....that will look much better in my opinion...that light looked out of place. In all honesty I would leave them off completely cleaner the better

[Damn True]

Diggin it!

I'm considering on a similar treatment on mine with some duplicate form language in the front for brake cooling ducts.

[Datsbad]

on monday i will start the front brake coolers on a test 69 car . I will get some pics up of the filled in RS backup light holes.

[Kendall Burleson]

I like it keep it coming :bow: :bow:

[srh3trinity]

Good idea getting rid of the lights back there, that was the only thing I didn't like. I like symmetry, and the exhaust tips and the lights didn't line up that well and like you said it looked a little busy. It will look much cleaner without them. I would still like to see somebody use some Z06 brake cooling ducts on a 69 Camaro on the rear fenders, if you could make the front ones similar to that, it would be a unique look.

[coolclassiccars]

smaller lights on the rear you mean like the ones unique use? :rofl: heck why not just cut them in round also :rofl: