JCG Kuwait 1969 Camaro Build

[Cris@JCG]

Got another 69 Camaro that we will have a the privilege to work on here @ JCG.. The car will get a complete Pro-Touring upgrade.. The car arrived about 6 weeks ago but will blowing it apart this coming week.. Get it to the media blaster.. The list of parts are in the works.. Not too much custom work on this one.. Just bolt on parts.. LS supercharged,6 Speed Tremec, DSE, Wilwood, American Auto Wire, Forgeline, Marquez,Vintage Air, & some JCG goodies..

Carter is working on the rendering… I will have a 572 with 10 miles on it for sale here pretty soon!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1559.jpg

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[DOOM]

Cris I will call you on that 572... Been trying to call you last few days crazy week for me last week...

[CRCRFT78]

Thats a lot of Middle East dirt right there.

[Spiffav8]

Thats a lot of Middle East dirt right there.

Dirt? Soil in that part of the world is more like moon dust. Only place I've seen rain create a dust storm. :rolleyes:

How about a little background on the car and the customer. The car looks like it has a few nice parts on it already. I'd trip if I spotted that sucker running down the road in Kuwait!

[Jr]

Cool build. What kind of supercharger?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

might want to design a water bath/hepa air filter system for that engine. sounds like another cool build.

[65 347]

Cris
Mario may also interested in the spolier. :unibrow:
Mike

[tones2SS]

Should be another killer build. Keep us posted Cris.
Did I read right? Only 10 miles on that 572?!?:_paranoid

[Cris@JCG]

The pics are as the car came off the container.. plus they did not strap down the car right.. The straps snapped & the car was moving in the container.. Plus 5 weeks in transit... She be a bit dirty!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1518.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/Camaro1969004.jpg

The car was found in Kuwait in the mid 80's & a shop tried to do the work but was never able to get it right.. So the car sat for many years.. Then the car went to West Coast Customs in Dubai.. but were never were able to reach an agreement on the work their.. The owner contacted me after he found out that I was doing a 70 Chevelle for a friend of his.. The car has some nice components but now wants to step it up a bit.. He wants a Muscle Car that can keep up with some exotics he has in fleet of cars..

I have weekly conversation with my two customers from Kuwait & have been informed that Muscle cars are big their...

Dirt? Soil in that part of the world is more like moon dust. Only place I've seen rain create a dust storm. :rolleyes:

How about a little background on the car and the customer. The car looks like it has a few nice parts on it already. I'd trip if I spotted that sucker running down the road in Kuwait!

Magnuson!

Cool build. What kind of supercharger?

Gus- You will be the first guy I call when we are looking for a LS!

Cris,
Let me know if you need an LS Engine...
Unless you have some on the shelf already...
Talk to you soon
Thanks
Gus

[Cris@JCG]

I think this was the only time the car was driven...

nd7YDmnOfr4

[Flash68]

Gonzo.... International Muscle Car Builder. :D :thumbsup:

[Bow Tie 67]

This should be fun to watch. Is he keeping the hood Cris?

[Cris@JCG]

LMAO!

Gonzo.... International Muscle Car Builder. :D :thumbsup:

We will be running a standard cowl hood Matt..

This should be fun to watch. Is he keeping the hood Cris?

[Cris@JCG]

Here is Carters first shot on the rendering.. He is working the rear view!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/JCG69test1.jpg

[Cris@JCG]

Just got our engine on order!

Mast Motorsports

LS7 427 HO S/C 2300 TVS 800HP

Type: LS7 7.0L TVS 2300
Displacement: 427 Cubic Inches
Compression Ratio: 9.5:1
Bore x Stroke: 4.125 x 4.000
Rev Limit: 7000 RPM
Crank: Callies Forged
Rods: Callies H-Beam
Pistons: Mahle Motorsports
Cam: Mast Custom 3-Bolt Core Cam
Heads: Mast CNC LS3/L92 Heads
Intake: Intercooled Supercharger
Valve Springs: Mast Nitrided Beehive

http://www.mastmotorsports.com/2010/photos/117-311.jpg

[Cris@JCG]

This will be the color of the car..

Ferrari Griggio Silverstone
http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/JCG69test2.jpg

[Ron in SoCal]

^ Nice color Cris! :thumbsup: Oh, and the motor's not too shabby either...:D

[Vegas69]

Nice!:thumbsup: Let me know when it's ready for a shake down run. :unibrow:

[randy]

god i want my car tucked like that but its a 67.

[tones2SS]

Man that thing is going to be a beast! I'm digging it.
Will that be the ride stance that is shown in the rendering Cris? Looks killer!

[Spiffav8]

This will be the color of the car..

Ferrari Griggio Silverstone
http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/JCG69test2.jpg

Cris that thing is absolutely sick!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Cris@JCG]

Not bad for another daily driver! Huh!

^ Nice color Cris! :thumbsup: Oh, and the motor's not too shabby either...:D

If I let you drive this one.. you will have to hand over the keys to yours

Nice!:thumbsup: Let me know when it's ready for a shake down run. :unibrow:

Can be done! But requires more work...

god i want my car tucked like that but its a 67.

Tony- It is our goal on the ride height.. 20x12 on 345-30-20 for the rear & 19x10 295-35-19 if they have it for the front..

Man that thing is going to be a beast! I'm digging it.
Will that be the ride stance that is shown in the rendering Cris? Looks killer!

[Cris@JCG]

Thanks Curtis! The owner asked for an estimate to re-build his 69 with upgraded suspension, LS supercharged, 6 speed, & etc.. When I gave him the estimate.. he asked for a rendering that would get him the warm fuzzy feeling on spending that kinda money.. I have always wanted to work with Carter Hickman & always liked the realistic veiws of his 69 renderings.. so I got my project approved today thanks to Carter's Rendering.. Motor approved & ordering the rest in the next few weeks...

Cris that thing is absolutely sick!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[g356gear]

Just got our engine on order!

Mast Motorsports

LS7 427 HO S/C 2300 TVS 800HP

Type: LS7 7.0L TVS 2300
Displacement: 427 Cubic Inches
Compression Ratio: 9.5:1
Bore x Stroke: 4.125 x 4.000
Rev Limit: 7000 RPM
Crank: Callies Forged
Rods: Callies H-Beam
Pistons: Mahle Motorsports
Cam: Mast Custom 3-Bolt Core Cam
Heads: Mast CNC LS3/L92 Heads
Intake: Intercooled Supercharger
Valve Springs: Mast Nitrided Beehive

http://www.mastmotorsports.com/2010/photos/117-311.jpg

Sweet motor! Whats the turnaround time for a motor from Mast?

[Cris@JCG]

I think about 4 weeks!

Sweet motor! Whats the turnaround time for a motor from Mast?

[Ricochet]

Looks awesome Chris!! You realize you already set the bar for what you did on the 68. Look forward to seeing this one come together! No doubt it will be a killer!

[72Z/28]

Gonzo this is an awesome rendering really like the color and the stance. This is going to be exciting to watch. I am from Qatar,not far away from Kuwait. I wish I could afford sending my camaro to get it properly built :D

[Cris@JCG]

Here is my version of what I would like the car built to on the colors & trim..
Carter hit it dead on the nail for me!

The owner will be looking @ having trim & bumpers in original finishes... The stripes will be silver with matching centers on the wheels...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/JCG_Finalcomp_s2.jpg

[Cris@JCG]

Brent- Thank you sir! I have few new ideas on the engine compartment for this one.. I am very excited about this build.. Mast LS7 supercharged! I luv these engines... If all goes well.. I should have a LS7 for my 70 Z by next week..

Looks awesome Chris!! You realize you already set the bar for what you did on the 68. Look forward to seeing this one come together! No doubt it will be a killer!

We got 2 builds going on here @ the shop from Kuwait.. & got a more in the works for the future...



Gonzo this is an awesome rendering really like the color and the stance. This is going to be exciting to watch. I am from Qatar,not far away from Kuwait. I wish I could afford sending my camaro to get it properly built :D

[tones2SS]

Looks great. Looking forward to JCG working their magic once again.
Love the black window trim which goes killer with that paint scheme. Keep us posted Cris.:thumbsup:

[Cris@JCG]

Thanks Tony! I have to bump the rendering to the next page..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/JCG_Finalcomp_s2.jpg


Looks great. Looking forward to JCG working their magic once again.
Love the black window trim which goes killer with that paint scheme. Keep us posted Cris.:thumbsup:

[Spiffav8]

The finial rendering is SICK!!! I am really digging this car. Are you going to print up any posters...cause I want one! :yes:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[War]

Looks good Chris. I might be the only one on here... but I kinda like the lighter silver better......Just Sayin. Besides, don't you already have one in the shop already that color? Not sayin I don't like it cause I do....Just Sayin.

[DOOM]

Jason what are you try'in to say??:D

[Jr]

I liked the lighter silver, too.

[redfire69]

Man I gotta get a rendering done. Looks great! :thumbsup:

[Cris@JCG]

If it were up to me.. Silver would be my color.. It happens to be my favorite color for a 69.. but the car has an owner that the dark gray is the color he wants...

Looks good Chris. I might be the only one on here... but I kinda like the lighter silver better......Just Sayin. Besides, don't you already have one in the shop already that color? Not sayin I don't like it cause I do....Just Sayin.

Man I gotta get a rendering done. Looks great! :thumbsup:

[War]

Jason what are you try'in to say??:D

That I like silver, and if I lived in Kuwait you could bet your a$$ the car would be white.

[War]

If it were up to me.. Silver would be my color.. It happens to be my favorite color for a 69.. but the car has an owner that the dark gray is the color he wants...

Just busting your Blu Balz Chris.:lol:

[Cris@JCG]

Jason- You need to clarify something for Mario.. He thinks you are this young stud of a fabricator... Little does he know.. :lol:

Just busting your Blu Balz Chris.:lol:

[War]

What, that I'm an old fat man.

[Cris@JCG]

And that you have panty fetish! :lol:

What, that I'm an old fat man.

[DOOM]

Jason- You need to clarify something for Mario.. He thinks you are this young stud of a fabricator... Little does he know.. :lol:

We been talking about you Jason.....:D In a good way.....:_paranoid

[72Z/28]

Hey Cris any update on this camaro, I am realy interested in watching this build:D

[Cris@JCG]

We have all the car disassembled! The shell & all removable sheet metal was picked up Friday for media blasting.. I sold the 572 already! The rest of the parts will be listed here pretty soon..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1749.jpg

We fabricated this firewall here for another Camaro here @ the shop.. We are pulling templates & fabricating this firewall this coming week.. A few changes but this will be the concept..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1071.jpg


Hey Cris any update on this camaro, I am realy interested in watching this build:D

[72Z/28]

The firewall looks nice Cris👍👍

[Cris@JCG]

Update on rendering! here are the owner color choices with Forgeline wheels that he picked.. I really am digging the colors with wheels.. Thanks Carter for the update!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/JCG_FinalUpdateS.jpg

[randy]

Update on rendering! here are the owner color choices with Forgeline wheels that he picked.. I really am digging the colors with wheels.. Thanks Carter for the update!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/JCG_FinalUpdateS.jpg

are you going to install flush mount glass or paint the window trim black?

[Cris@JCG]

I like the way it is on the rendering.. I would powder coat it black.. but the owner has the final say so on that one!

are you going to install flush mount glass or paint the window trim black?

[tones2SS]

Some killer looking builds coming out of your shop Cris.
Keep up the great work!

[Cris@JCG]

Last week we finished fabricating the firewall plate.. We made three for a few cars we got going on here @ the shop but also made one that is going out to get tooled for stamping this firewall.. I will have these available in a few months to sell.. We are also working on fabricating a transmission tunnel for T56 transmission for this build that also will be going out to get tooled.. I have teamed up with one of the companies that re-produce sheetmetal & want to work with JCG on the pcs that are needed for LS conversions..

In the mean time Mario/Doom wants one for his 69.. So we are building one for him right now..

Best investment on a tool that I could have made was my Harbor Freight bead rollor:unibrow:

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1799.jpg

[cencalc6]

That's vey Nice Chris,going to toss out my other filler plate and wait for these :thumbsup:

[DOOM]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:D :wow: :faint: :hail:

[syborg tt]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:D :wow: :faint: :hail:

The two of you have been holding out on me - not nice

btw - that is an awesome piece I like it.

[redfire69]

Cris, awesome work, please put me on the list for one of these!!! :thumbsup:

Last week we finished fabricating the firewall plate.. We made three for a few cars we got going on here @ the shop but also made one that is going out to get tooled for stamping this firewall.. I will have these available in a few months to sell.. We are also working on fabricating a transmission tunnel for T56 transmission for this build that also will be going out to get tooled.. I have teamed up with one of the companies that re-produce sheetmetal & want to work with JCG on the pcs that are needed for LS conversions..

In the mean time Mario/Doom wants one for his 69.. So we are building one for him right now..

Best investment on a tool that I could have made was my Harbor Freight bead rollor:unibrow:

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1799.jpg

[DOOM]

The two of you have been holding out on me - not nice

btw - that is an awesome piece I like it.

If you only new!:unibrow:

[Spiffav8]

If you only new!:unibrow:

Mario....we need to talk. :yes:

[Cris@JCG]

Finally got this 69 going.. The holidays put the car behind @ the media blaster .. & we have a bunch of stuff going on here @ the shop.. Got the shell in DTM primer.. Loaded on the jig.. Their will be updates coming here pretty soon.. We have 6 weeks of scheduled work time for this car..


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1922.jpg

[frankv11]

Last week we finished fabricating the firewall plate.. We made three for a few cars we got going on here @ the shop but also made one that is going out to get tooled for stamping this firewall.. I will have these available in a few months to sell.. We are also working on fabricating a transmission tunnel for T56 transmission for this build that also will be going out to get tooled.. I have teamed up with one of the companies that re-produce sheetmetal & want to work with JCG on the pcs that are needed for LS conversions..

In the mean time Mario/Doom wants one for his 69.. So we are building one for him right now..

Best investment on a tool that I could have made was my Harbor Freight bead rollor:unibrow:

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1799.jpg

quick question which bead roller did you get from Harbor Freight ( pic if possible)

[Cris@JCG]

Frank- I was J/K that we made this pcs with a Harbor Freight bead roller.. I have one that were using early last year for small pcs.. now we have one that I bought from Pro Tools.. I think..

The Harbor Freight one had to be strengthened up because it would flex all over the place.. I no longer have it.. I gave it to a friend of mine..

quick question which bead roller did you get from Harbor Freight ( pic if possible)

[87SS]

Can't wait to see some update pics !:thumbsup:

[frankv11]

Frank- I was J/K that we made this pcs with a Harbor Freight bead roller.. I have one that were using early last year for small pcs.. now we have one that I bought from Pro Tools.. I think..

The Harbor Freight one had to be strengthened up because it would flex all over the place.. I no longer have it.. I gave it to a friend of mine..

Thinking about getting one and harbor freight was not on my list but saw your post. Just had to ask
thanks

[Cris@JCG]

Here are a few updates.. We have been working on making room for the
345-30-20... We built new frame rails out of .120 thk material so that we have good mounting & welding point for the pannard bar & just making a few things more strong for the Mast Motor.. Cut out the package tray & welded a tube in place that ties into the pillars... First time we make our own tubs..

Got more coming in the next couple of weeks ..Talked to Mast today.. Looking like I will have a motor mid Feb...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1967.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1968.jpg

[settintrendz]

Looks sweet Cris. Are you extending the rear of the tubs down to the rockers? Appears so. I like it.

[Al Moreno]

Chris you know I'm a fan ....... Awesome work! :thumbsup:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Here are a few updates.. We have been working on making room for the
345-30-20... We built new frame rails out of .120 thk material so that we have good mounting & welding point for the pannard bar & just making a few things more strong for the Mast Motor.. Cut out the package tray & welded a tube in place that ties into the pillars... First time we make our own tubs..

Got more coming in the next couple of weeks ..Talked to Mast today.. Looking like I will have a motor mid Feb...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1967.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1968.jpg

wait is that a firebird????

[Cris@JCG]

Adam- The new tubs are made to weld to stock points.. They extend to the rocker panels & we are doing them in two pcs... the outer tub will be done when we get the face of the qtr panel back on..

Looks sweet Cris. Are you extending the rear of the tubs down to the rockers? Appears so. I like it.

It is a Camaro Vince... I was playing around with the split on Firebird tail lights to make it look like RS Camaro tail lights.. don't like it.. Just gonna put the stock ones back in their..

wait is that a firebird????

Thank you AL!

Chris you know I'm a fan ....... Awesome work! :thumbsup:

[Cris@JCG]

The nice thing about when you open a car this far up.. It makes it easier to fabricate & weld.. The tubs are done & ready to be welded in place but we need to finish up the trunk first...

WE were gonna fab a cool new trunk pan but drew the line sonewhere.. Using the stock one with new trunk fillers.. Thought we would try something new with our Optima billet battery tray.. I think it looks ok.. :D

Tomorrow we weld it up all together.. next week we start the four point cage..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1989.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1986.jpg

[tones2SS]

Awesome stuff guys!

[youthpastor]

as always- nice work Cris! Looking forward to seeing it on the ground:D

[67ragtp]

Chris- Awesome work as usual, is the optima battery tray(post #69) available for purchase?, I love the simplicity and non bling of it, would be perfect in black ano.

Rich

[Cris@JCG]

Thanks Chris! I too look forward to seeing it on the ground with a JCG Sub-Frame! Next week we start cutting & machining for the first prototype..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/67-69_Camaro_Sub-Frame_Assem013112.jpg

as always- nice work Cris! Looking forward to seeing it on the ground:D

I am currently getting a small production run quoted.. I will let you know when I have a price..

Chris- Awesome work as usual, is the optima battery tray(post #69) available for purchase?, I love the simplicity and non bling of it, would be perfect in black ano.

Rich

[Bryce]

Cris are going to share your suspension geometry characteristics?
Did you lose any weight with your design?

Nice detailed CAD work.

[Cris@JCG]

Bryce- The suspension geometry characteristics will be kept under wraps for now.. When we build the first prototype.. I will need to take the sub-frame over to friend of mine that will proof the suspension geometry before we move on to build final chassis.. Then the prototype will be put underneath my 68 Camaro to test & proof fit & function.. I will daily drive the car to ensure that we have meet our goals on design & function..

Two reason that drove me to build our own suspension.. 1st: build the car off the wheels.. 2nd :build the car to desired ride height without losing suspension travel.. Another thing that have become a big thing around the shop is weight.. The design on the sub with suspension has been designed to keep weight down.. I am a big fan of inter locking pcs. together & plug welding with stitch welding.. Our chassis is not designed to look pretty & smooth.. but the number one priority is strength .. Cost is another factor on the sub.. Look @ the upper control arm.. It is a mirrored from left to right.. so we build one arm that is used left & right.. The lower control arm is mirrored on components.. The control arms are using 4130 chromemoly tubes with 4140 upper bushing shafts.. We will be using all ARP fasteners.. We have tested the tensile strength on their fasteners.. & it is what they claim! We FEA tested the control arms with a 8000 pound load on them.. Plenty of strength!
The design on the spring buckets is just like GM would do on their trucks but with a coil over.. Shock angles is another key factor.. & the list keeps going on.. We have put a lot of thought into the design..

Please note that I am not doing this to produce & sell to the public.. Just to support the builds we have in house.. The suspension & chassis market is statured with vendors that produce excellent products..





Cris are going to share your suspension geometry characteristics?
Did you lose any weight with your design?

Nice detailed CAD work.

[RdHuggr68]

Chris, you can put the protoype under my 68, just give me a holler!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kevin:D :D

[Cris@JCG]

Here is a sneak peak of the the upper control arm.. Tonite we were playing around with animations for what we got planned for our website...

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[Jr]

Is that a C6 spindle?

[Track Junky]

You never sieze to amaze..........:thumbsup:

[Payton King]

I look forward to seeing this one completed.

Always excited to see another frame and based on what I have seen come out of your shop, it should be fantastic. I figured you would have milled it out of billet. LOL

I see where you were speaking of ride height. When 21st Century was still in business I got one of their frames. It was one of their 1 inch drop versions, basically they took an inch out of legs that mount to the body/floor. That inch coupled with the half heigh subframe bushings and my car is pretty low. Part that I was not thinking about at the time is how far it raised the motor in the car. I guess this is fresh on my mind because I recently went with a set of Katech valvel covers and could mounts. With the spacers I had to use with my truck coils, the coils touch the SS hood when closed at the front. I had to get LS7 coils so I would not have to run the 3/8 spacers to get clearance.

I know business always comes first, but I hope you get a car on the road soon for yourself. Personal projects always get "back burnered." Maybe this new frame will get you driving.

[Cris@JCG]

I finally got around to running our new CNC plasma cutter for a job here @ the shop.. My Uncle has been brushing up on his AutoCad skills..
It took us longer to measure & design on AutoCad than to burn it out..

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Here is a update on some of the rear inner structure work.. The package tray is almost done.. Post pics of that later..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2038.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2039.jpg

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[Al Moreno]

I just enjoy watching your build thread :hail:

[Cris@JCG]

Thank you Al! Your my biggest fan in the Universe! :lol:

I just enjoy watching your build thread :hail:

[groovyjay]

The creativity of your builds is just mind blowing! :hail:

[DFRESH]

I feel an amazing urge to spend sick amounts of money everytime you post up something new on this build. I really love the colors on the car--I love how the stripes are done and stand out in that color---it's gonna be one of the best ones out of the shop so far.

D

[tones2SS]

Awesome work Cris. Very nice.

[Cris@JCG]

Here is a pic of where we ended up with the package tray.. Got the idea from Ned's 70 Cuda to do it in a angle...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2056.jpg

We also started the qtr panel work.. It is looking like we will be able to remove the taper of the car without distorting the lines... But is gonna require some work on the tail panel.. This will be a small stretch to the car.. but make the car look wider in the back...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2052.jpg

[Swain]

The Tray looks nice.. Cars going to be bad ass.

[syborg tt]

Got a Qustion Are you plans to make a fold down rear seat?

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2056.jpg

[Cris@JCG]

No back seat for this 69... We still got alot more work to do to this area..

Got a Qustion Are you plans to make a fold down rear seat?

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2056.jpg

[cencalc6]

Very Nice job on the rear tray :hail:

[Kendall Burleson]

outstanding fab work again !!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Cris@JCG]

Thanks for the props guys! THe car is currently getting all the tail panel to qtrs re-worked.. decided to go with 345-30-19 in the back instead of the 20's

Very Nice job on the rear tray :hail:

outstanding fab work again !!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Kendall Burleson]

Why are you change to a 19" ? :_paranoid :_paranoid :_paranoid :_paranoid

[Cris@JCG]

Trust me Kendall! When you see what we have done it will make sense on why the tire change.. next week I will post a pic!


Why are you change to a 19" ? :_paranoid :_paranoid :_paranoid :_paranoid

[Cris@JCG]

We are going thru a major A$$ re-consrtuction! The car has been stetched for a total of 2 inches per side & held my side body lines..

This will give you an idea of the work being done to the rear!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2107.jpg

[Cris@JCG]

Here are pics of the stretch... The whole tail panel has been moved out to remove the taper in the rear of the car..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2113.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2114.jpg

[Al Moreno]

Sweeeeeet!! :hail:

[syborg tt]

looks nice

what ya going do up front ?

[Cris@JCG]

FYI AL! This is is my SEMA build for 2012.. & maybe the 70 Mustang!

Sweeeeeet!! :hail:

Something like this Marty.. but with the Marquez Lower valance..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_0070-1.jpg

looks nice

what ya going do up front ?

[syborg tt]

FYI AL! This is is my SEMA build for 2012.. & maybe the 70 Mustang!

Yep - you are going to be build

and that's a good looking front end

Something like this Marty.. but with the Marquez Lower valance..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_0070-1.jpg

ps - If you put a bike on this I may start talking with you again.

pss - Greg still hasn't told me how to unfriend you on FaceBook

[tones2SS]

I know this car is going to be a killer build already! Looking good Cris.

[Cris@JCG]

Machine shop brought in some goodies today! parts & jigs to build suspension control arms..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2115.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2119.jpg

[Rick D]

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:
:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:
Any word on the firewall yet?? And yes I don't give up :rofl:

[Bryce]

Cris,

You guys have so much fun! I would love to work for you.

[syborg tt]

Chris you guys are making it harder and harder for the other guys to keep up with you.

Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing one of your cars in person one day.

[Cris@JCG]

Rick- I have not had time to finish the firewalls yet.. I am so buried with other projects that take prioity to this.. but I make sure you get some pricing as soon as I have it..

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:
:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:
Any word on the firewall yet?? And yes I don't give up :rofl:

Bryce- I can imagine all the crazy stuff we could design!! :D

Cris,

You guys have so much fun! I would love to work for you.

Marty- It is the other way around.. I am just trying to keep up with everbody else..

Chris you guys are making it harder and harder for the other guys to keep up with you.

Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing one of your cars in person one day.

[Cris@JCG]

This suspension project has been kicking me in the ass! But the last minute changes have been worth it.. for the last few weeks we have be testing & tuning on BB.. & have been having alot of intresting chats with Mike Maiers..
The one thing that he has advised me on is make it simple to tune.. The shock bucket that we had before makes it difficult to change shock springs.. Re-design... We also have been running some pretty aggressive negitive camber... So we made it adjustable on the lower control arm by slotting & running camber washers.. Also Guy Ankeny will be working on the sway bar design for me.. I promise that it will be some thing trick with adjustments on it.. My learning curve this past week is being incorporated into our front suspension!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/FRT_Clip_67-69Camaro_5950Track031512.jpg

[87SS]

Please post some pics.....:thumbsup:

[214Chevy]

Please post some pics.....:thumbsup:

^^^^^, X2, what he said, ditto and everything else. We just need some pics!!:yes: :yes:

[Cris@JCG]

Sorry Guys.. I have been super busy lately.. I will post some pics later this week.. We got the rear bumper & tail panel with exhaust opening done.. Justing finishing all the qtr panel work... The rear of the carlooks pretty DAMM wide!

The front suspension design has been completed but had some changes that it needed.. WE got frame rails cut & will be water jet cutting later this week..


Please post some pics.....:thumbsup:

^^^^^, X2, what he said, ditto and everything else. We just need some pics!!:yes: :yes:

[Cris@JCG]

Here are some updated pics of what the rear of the 69 Camaro is looking like… The car is wider by 2 inches per side… This has been a lot of work… The whole tail panel was built from scratch & relocated the tail lights out to match the original location.. The bumper also was hand built .. The exhaust openings are done.. We are almost done doing with all the work on the pass side qtr.. All I can say is that this car looks super wide.. looking forward to having it on the ground next month..

The rear spoiler is coming but will work on that later! Also working on a center gas cap design.. & the sub-frame rails were machined last week..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2327.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2328.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2329.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2330.jpg

[cencalc6]

That's What you call PERFECTION!!! :hail: :bow: :hail: :bow: Best Looking A$$ on a 69 :unibrow:

[Spiffav8]

DANG!! :faint:

[waynieZ]

Cris that looks awesome!!! Excellent job on the tail panel the proportions look great. WOW I love it!

[skatinjay27]

that looks amazing!!

[orangevert]

Here are some updated pics of what the rear of the 69 Camaro is looking like… The car is wider by 2 inches per side… This has been a lot of work… The whole tail panel was built from scratch & relocated the tail lights out to match the original location.. The bumper also was hand built .. The exhaust openings are done.. We are almost done doing with all the work on the pass side qtr.. All I can say is that this car looks super wide.. looking forward to having it on the ground next month..

The rear spoiler is coming but will work on that later! Also working on a center gas cap design.. & the sub-frame rails were machined last week..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2327.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2328.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2329.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2330.jpg

Rear bumper lines are Sexy,

[MtotheIKEo]

Looking good! :cool:

What program are you using for suspension geometry design?

[frankv11]

chris that is some sick work , simply amaizing any chance you can show pictures of where you cut the quarter panel to acomplish the 2".

[Swain]

Damn that looks good

[Vince@Meanstreets]

wow, I know thats a lot of work but I can say it was well worth it. Nothing like a big looking rear.:thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Cris you just keep knockin it outta the park dude. Wow. :thumbsup:

[mild2wild]

Nice work!

[slenning]

Amazing work. As always!!! :cheers:

Man thats cool

[Payton King]

That is just spectacular! The best widebody treatment on the rear of a 69 that I have ever seen. Love the rear bumper and tail...very 70ish Cuda looking bumper treatment. I can only imagine the hours in the back half of that car.

[69znc]

I will pile on to the praise, awesome, nasty looking but with beautiful smooth lines that flow naturally. Hard to do!! Great work:hail:

[DOOM]

Did you start the widening of the front yet Cris? The rear looks stellar!! I have never seen this done on a Camaro..:wow: I guess I'll be stealing more Ideas.. Thank god you guys come up with these ideas I would be lost.:D

[syborg tt]

Very Nice !!!!

[Al Moreno]

Another Bad-ass build from team Gonzo!

[DRJDVM's '69]

That dead on low shot kinda reminds me of a certain Mopar sitting in your shop ....:D :thumbsup:

Looks great.....

[tones2SS]

Damn that looks good

^^What Jay said here. That is awesome!

[nvr2fst]

Very nice work Cris,
But I will say the bumper treatment looks very familiar to a 69 at Ironworks

[BBC71Nova]

Very bad azz '69. Can't wait to see the finished product.

[ironworks]

Very nice work Cris,
But I will say the bumper treatment looks very familiar to a 69 at Ironworks

Did you mean similar or familar? Because to me it looks similar or almost the same.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2011017.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2327.jpg

I guess the chassis table and the roll up door are different. :D :D :D

[tmadden]

Looks great!!

[Cris@JCG]

Rodger/Dave- When I first started working the rear section of the car I was looking @ Ned’s Cuda with 2nd Gen Camaro… but somewhere along the line we ended up with what we have right now… I will admit that it does have similar appearance to what you have.. bumper wise! Our 69 has its own unique style to it & will be its own when completed..

Rodger- Thanks for posting a comparison picture.. When Brycen came & interviewed to work for JCG we had a discussion about the difference on the rear sections of both cars.. Sorry to hear that he will not be completing what he started on Dave’s 69..



Did you mean similar or familar? Because to me it looks similar or almost the same.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2011017.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2327.jpg

I guess the chassis table and the roll up door are different. :D :D :D

[ironworks]

Rodger/Dave- When I first started working the rear section of the car I was looking @ Ned’s Cuda with 2nd Gen Camaro… but somewhere along the line we ended up with what we have right now… I will admit that it does have similar appearance to what you have.. bumper wise! Our 69 has its own unique style to it & will be its own when completed..

Rodger- Thanks for posting a comparison picture.. When Brycen came & interviewed to work for JCG we had a discussion about the difference on the rear sections of both cars.. Sorry to hear that he will not be completing what he started on Dave’s 69..

So then you already knew about the "similarity" way before today. I'm interested to see the spoiler that goes on next.

As far as Brycen being around to finish some of the work he has done on Dave's car, it is a bummer to lose a guy with talent, But if you think losing him is going to change one speck of dust on any project in my shop your sorely mistaken. There is plenty of other talent in my shop, there has to be to turn out the quantity and the quality of the work we do on a daily basis. This shop is not a one spoke wheel. Brycen had been here for 7 years and I'm bummed to lose him but the show must and will go on. And from my perspective if he is living in your neighborhood you would be crazy not to hire him for his talent, But it takes the customers to pay for the kind of quality my guys are used to putting out on a daily basis to make it work.

[nvr2fst]

Cris

I havent been on much due to my health with recent cancer and personal issues. But I was frustrated seeing this post/pictures of the rear end. If Im not mistaken Neds cuda came to you after the 69 and the idea clearly came from Rodgers photos of my build IMO. Otherwise why would the issue even of been discussed with Brycen if you didnt think it mimiced my 69. Thus my reasoning for not posting build pictures of unigue ideas on my car lately. Either way, wherever you got your inspiration from (which we all get it from somewhere) the rear bumper idea sure looks like an exact duplicate and Ill just leave it at that. As I said before it does look great thats why I decided to do this on my car. We cant stop individuals from copying ideas but they should at least give credit where credit is due. Good luck, and I look forward to viewing your finished product once my in/out hospital days are done with.

Dave

[87SS]

All I can say is that the owner from Kuwait has very deep pockets and he will have a bad ass 69! This 69 should stay in the USA (too nice to ship):mad: , BUT I guess it will leave the country when done.

[Vegas69]

Similar but I can see that it's going to be a distinctly different finished product.

[214Chevy]

Cris

I havent been on much due to my health with recent cancer...... I was frustrated seeing this post/pictures of the rear end. ......and I look forward to viewing your finished product once my in/out hospital days are done with.

Dave

Dave, with all due respect, I can respect and understand you frustration. But, since I work in the health field, can I ask you to do one favor. Get well first sir. Concentrate on your health and your well being. It's only a car. I pray you do get well and are able to enjoy the car. By the way, that is one sexy rear end and I do love the bumper mod myself.

[nvr2fst]

Did you start the widening of the front yet Cris? The rear looks stellar!! I have never seen this done on a Camaro..:wow: I guess I'll be stealing more Ideas.. Thank god you guys come up with these ideas I would be lost.:D

???? Really?

[Cris@JCG]

Rodger- Of course I knew about the “SIMILARITY” about the rear bumper… but I am done with it & have moved on to the next phase of the project.. In the end your whole rear section of the car will be different than what I did.. We built the whole rear section with the POS equipment we have.. Nothing special.. I don’t have a Pullmax with special dies to fabricate.. You have been to my shop.. nothing special around here… I have never been to your shop but know that you have the best equipment $$ can buy.. As for the rear spoiler.. You have given me your opinions on my spoilers.. You don’t like them! But my customers do.. & they are the ones paying the bill.. & if a customer likes a rear bumper that they saw on the forum & wants me to do it.. I will do it.. of course with my spin to it..

Bottom line is if you don’t want other shops or people to duplicate your work… Don’t post any pics till the car is done!

As for Brycen not working @ Ironworks anymore.. The kid has talent & would have been great if he came to work for JCG but it did not work to our benefit for both of us… One thing life has taught me is .. you never put all your eggs in one basket.. I am sure you have other guys in your shop that are capable of doing fab to the Ironworks level..




So then you already knew about the "similarity" way before today. I'm interested to see the spoiler that goes on next.

As far as Brycen being around to finish some of the work he has done on Dave's car, it is a bummer to lose a guy with talent, But if you think losing him is going to change one speck of dust on any project in my shop your sorely mistaken. There is plenty of other talent in my shop, there has to be to turn out the quantity and the quality of the work we do on a daily basis. This shop is not a one spoke wheel. Brycen had been here for 7 years and I'm bummed to lose him but the show must and will go on. And from my perspective if he is living in your neighborhood you would be crazy not to hire him for his talent, But it takes the customers to pay for the kind of quality my guys are used to putting out on a daily basis to make it work.


Dave- I have been aware of your health issues for some time now.. I hope to see that you recover here pretty soon.. Your 69 is one of my favorite builds on the forum & hope to see it completed..

Brycen saw what I was doing but did not express or give any information on how the rear bumper was done… We just discussed on how complex & how much work it takes to do a rear section to this level..

I will admit that the idea came from what Ironworks did on your 69 Camaro.. but understand that I work from the direction on what a customer wants to see in their build.. In the 2 years that I have been on this forum I have seen guys duplicate some of the things that JCG has done.. but I am well aware that when I post a pic of something.. that it can duplicated…




Cris

I havent been on much due to my health with recent cancer and personal issues. But I was frustrated seeing this post/pictures of the rear end. If Im not mistaken Neds cuda came to you after the 69 and the idea clearly came from Rodgers photos of my build IMO. Otherwise why would the issue even of been discussed with Brycen if you didnt think it mimiced my 69. Thus my reasoning for not posting build pictures of unigue ideas on my car lately. Either way, wherever you got your inspiration from (which we all get it from somewhere) the rear bumper idea sure looks like an exact duplicate and Ill just leave it at that. As I said before it does look great thats why I decided to do this on my car. We cant stop individuals from copying ideas but they should at least give credit where credit is due. Good luck, and I look forward to viewing your finished product once my in/out hospital days are done with.

Dave

[nvr2fst]

Thanks Cris for being honest on where the "idea" inspiration came from.

You build what a customer asks for and if they see a car or certain details that they want incorporated into there build, understood. Im just going to have to send down some bigger tarps to hide the car:thumbsup:

[214Chevy]

Chris, do it...do it!! I'd like to see that green 69 come to fruition.

[DOOM]

[/COLOR]

???? Really?

Really Dave!:D Because if I was paying attention I would of had Troy duplicate the same thing on my car!! Matter of fact I still have time.. I will tell you this, if it wasn't for the fab shops like JCG, IRONWORKS,ROADSTER SHOP, etc I would be lost. I hammer fenders for a living I have no ''vision'' these guys help me with that. I thank these guys and alot of others who help me steal there ideas. Whats cool is I can call Cris and Rodger anytime and they are more than happy to tell me howI can go about making there ideas work. Pretty cool!! Both of these guys have been nothing but good to me and at the end of the day they are competitors who have the same passion ! I think a little shout out to the person you got the idea from would go a long way no matter how small or big.:cheers: :lateral:

[GregWeld]

FETorino will love it. Roof line looks just like one.







No problem Dave.. At least I now know that the rear bumper was your idea & that Ironworks was working under your direction..

Here is something we were playing around with in photoshop... I think the color might be a color we both like.. Check out the roof line...

Orignal..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/greensideelevationrw11smcopy.jpg

Modified...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/greensideelevationrw11Asmcopy.jpg

[DRJDVM's '69]

My cuda arrived at JCG in mid Dec....

My bumper and tail section was done 2 years ago and it looks very similar.... Never saw any of these previous pix.... I mirrored mine similar to Sick Fish

As with any aspect of car modification.... There are so only so many different ways you can modify the rear bumper on a 1st gen and have it look cool. Even if you never see pix of other cars, it's inherent that there will be design and mods that will come out similar

[GregWeld]

My cuda arrived at JCG in mid Dec....

My bumper and tail section was done 2 years ago and it looks very similar.... Never saw any of these previous pix.... I mirrored mine similar to Sick Fish

As with any aspect of car modification.... There are so only so many different ways you can modify the rear bumper on a 1st gen and have it look cool. Even if you never see pix of other cars, it's inherent that there will be design and mods that will come out similar



So let me get this right.... you're saying similar to a statement like "Jon Hensen is a good guy.... he just stole my money is all".


:rofl: :woot:

[FETorino]

FETorino will love it. Roof line looks just like one.

I have a 69 Vette and my 69 Torino.

I'm concerned Larry Shinoda and Zora Arkus-Duntov will be pissed about you stealing his gills from the C3 and Ford licensing dept. may come after you for "Ford's newest bright idea" "sportsroof".

Can you do a rendering with Itros maybe that will bring it together.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/jadetorino.jpg

[skatinjay27]

theres a render in a camaro performer that has a 69 yenko wagon that looks awesome!

[214Chevy]

Chris, here you go to get started on making that green 69 rendering come to life. Hell of a deal on the price too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-1969-Ford-Fairlane-Torino-Roof-Body-Panel-Section-/140584694922?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorie s&fits=Year%3A1969%7CMake%3AFord%7CModel%3ATorino&hash=item20bb80348a&vxp=mtr

[Ketzer]

Wow. Some pretty heavy underlying conversations going on here. That is a shame.

I think Ned really hit it, dozens of shops putting their spin on one single year and make, add in what is currently trendy, theres bound to be some similarities. Stand on the quality of what you are doing and let the rest sort its self out.


Jeff-

[tjbruning]

My cuda arrived at JCG in mid Dec....

My bumper and tail section was done 2 years ago and it looks very similar.... Never saw any of these previous pix.... I mirrored mine similar to Sick Fish

As with any aspect of car modification.... There are so only so many different ways you can modify the rear bumper on a 1st gen and have it look cool. Even if you never see pix of other cars, it's inherent that there will be design and mods that will come out similar

Speaking of a certain 'Cuda with a nice tail, where are the updates?!?

[Cris@JCG]

Tim- Ned has been real patient with all I got going on here @ the shop.. We will be wrapping up all the things he has on our list of things to do.. So he can get it home & get some work done himself.. BTW dig all the work you did on rear section of Ned's Cuda..

Speaking of a certain 'Cuda with a nice tail, where are the updates?!?

[Cris@JCG]

I wish I could do this to a Camaro.. But have not found anybody for me to do this to their car...

Chris, here you go to get started on making that green 69 rendering come to life. Hell of a deal on the price too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-1969-Ford-Fairlane-Torino-Roof-Body-Panel-Section-/140584694922?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorie s&fits=Year%3A1969%7CMake%3AFord%7CModel%3ATorino&hash=item20bb80348a&vxp=mtr

[FETorino]

Wow. Some pretty heavy underlying conversations going on here. That is a shame.


Jeff-

Why is it a shame to understand that the craftsmanship is what counts? Everyone better go back and look at all the concept cars produced over the years and realize half the time the original designs are really what most people are building.

Keeping costs down in a production environment along with DOT regs is what births the actual design of cars sold.

If you do come up with something truly original then remember.

"imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"

"Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will have to ram it down their throats."


Chris, here you go to get started on making that green 69 rendering come to life. Hell of a deal on the price too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-1969-Ford-Fairlane-Torino-Roof-Body-Panel-Section-/140584694922?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorie s&fits=Year%3A1969%7CMake%3AFord%7CModel%3ATorino&hash=item20bb80348a&vxp=mtr

It's hard to believe someone wont jump on this chance to improve the look of their Camaro.

[Flash68]

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/jadetorino.jpg

Love that car dude. Looks killer! :thumbsup:

[DRJDVM's '69]

Oh Greg....always got to find some way to jab at me...twist my words...

Your analogy to Jon couldnt be farther from my point....my point is that there are only so many way to re-style that section of a 1st gen....and alot of them are going to be similar.... good design and style are going to have slightly different tweaks, but are often similar from builder to builder... the design and style just works....try to be 1000% original and it often sticks out like a sore thumb because the design just doesnt work...

Wheel designs are the perfect example.....

TJ..wish I had more updates, but I dont.....

[GregWeld]

It's hard to believe someone wont jump on this chance to improve the look of their Camaro.



Only way to improve the looks of a '69 Camaro is to put some Intros on a Torino...

[FETorino]

Only way to improve the looks of a '69 Camaro is to put some Intros on a Torino...

Finally somebody states the obvious.

[214Chevy]

I wish I could do this to a Camaro.. But have not found anybody for me to do this to their car...

I have a particular 69 I could send you. A friend of mines has been tryna sell me his for years. Let's deal!!:unibrow: :unibrow:

[214Chevy]

.....It's hard to believe someone wont jump on this chance to improve the look of their Camaro.

I'm putting in my my bid. And I can start off by buying the $100 Torino roof.

[Cris@JCG]

We just recieved our motor today! Mast Motorsport LS7 with the new Whipple Supercharger.. Should be kinda fun to drive!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2411.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/001.jpg

[tmadden]

oooooooooooweeeeeeeeee!!!!:willy: :willy: :willy: :willy:

[camcojb]

kinda fun???!!!!! :lol:

[bdahlg68]

I'm just going to put this out there.....

852hp might be too much.....

















might be that is... probably not though.

[Rick D]

Man Cris look at that torq curve, YAH I think it might be fun, that's an understatement! :cheers: Love it!!!!!!!

[FETorino]

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

Wait let me look at that dyno graph again.....

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

[Vegas69]

I think that will work Cris. :lol:

[214Chevy]

Please excuse my language, but.........

F#&K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

[DFRESH]

Only way to improve the looks of a '69 Camaro is to put some Intros on a Torino...

Dave Gordon----I smell an opportunity to use your new founded power here.

[Vegas69]

:lol:

[GregWeld]

I enter a plea of insanity....

[Jr]

How big is the whipple?

[Garage Dog 65]

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/001.jpg

What torque curve, where, I don't see a curve ???

Yep, right pedal = guaranteed fun !

:yes: :yes: :yes:

Jim

[65_LS1_T56]

How big is the whipple?

Guessing a 2900 (2.9L), at least it says that on the top of the dyno graph.

[Blake Foster]

Great numbers................ how are you going to drive it??? :thumbsup:

[Rybar]

What torque curve, where, I don't see a curve ???

Wow man, 650 TQ at 3000 rpm. :D

[Cris@JCG]

That is correct sir!

Guessing a 2900 (2.9L), at least it says that on the top of the dyno graph.

I will drive it like I stole it! The owner will be entertained with all that power & tq.. It will be tough to get it to hook up ..

Great numbers................ how are you going to drive it??? :thumbsup:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

All I can say is Soly Hhit. He's gonna have fun with that car.

[Sieg]

It will be tough to get it to hook up ..
If it hooks up I hope it has steering brakes! :thumbsup:

[syborg tt]

Chris I'm bored stuck at home for 2 more weeks

You gotta get me some pics

[LowchevyII]

damn cris, I finally have been getting caught up with some builds on here and am blown away with this one. Looks great! I'll have to stop by sometime soon and check it out!

[Cris@JCG]

Thanks Jeff... Stop on by late next month when th car car is on the ground... I got my SpeedTech Rear Suspenssion today.. Plus the wheels arrived last week...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2533.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2504.jpg


damn cris, I finally have been getting caught up with some builds on here and am blown away with this one. Looks great! I'll have to stop by sometime soon and check it out!

[214Chevy]

Damn, those wheels looks sick. Can't wait to see them sitting under that beast.

[tones2SS]

Damn, those wheels looks sick. Can't wait to see them sitting under that beast.

^^You said it Marcus. Those look great!

[LowchevyII]

Thanks Jeff... Stop on by late next month when th car car is on the ground... I got my SpeedTech Rear Suspenssion today.. Plus the wheels arrived last week...

Sounds good! I'll definitely be sure to do that

[SLO_Z28]

So this car is getting one of those super dooper rear ends too? Those wheels are sexy!

[72Z/28]

Any update on this beast?:D

[Cris@JCG]

Here is a small update... We had to go back to the drawing board on the sub-frame rails & re-design them.. but now everything is looking good.. the rack n pinion has clearance for the steering shaft... We have motor mounts for LS engine.. The frame rails were to narrow... so we opened them up one inch per side... & the main reason for a re-design on the frame rails was to optimize the fabrication of the frame rails .. we cut our fab & assembly time down to 50%...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2627.jpg


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2629.jpg

[syborg tt]

Looks nice. What's the time line on this projects

[Cris@JCG]

Thanks Marty! Currently my plate is full here @ the shop.. I have a SEMA build going on & a car that I am getting ready for Optima Street car Challenge.. SO this 69 is moving .. but not @ the pace we would have liked.. But after SEMA we will be full steam ahead on this one..

Looks nice. What's the time line on this projects

[Cris@JCG]

I figued I would share some pics of how my sub-frame comes together.. This thing interlocks in so many ways .. did lots of tig welding today!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2638.jpg


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2639.jpg


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2640.jpg


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2641.jpg


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2642.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2643.jpg


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2646.jpg

[Al Moreno]

Chris, that's some beautiful welding action right there! :hail:

[INTMD8]

Yes, very nice work on that subframe!!! :thumbsup:

[cencalc6]

Amazing Work Chris! :hail:

[72Z/28]

Awesome fab work on that subframe Chris:thumbsup:

[DOOM]

Cris those frame rails look pretty narrow!!! HHHMMMMM..:_paranoid

[Jr]

Cris,
Are you still using the 99-02 camaro uca, lca, and spindle?

How narrow is your sub compared to a stock sub?

Your work looks great!

[Al Moreno]

Hey Chris, what do you have for us this year for SEMA? :unibrow:

[Cris@JCG]

Thanks for the props guys! Primo has enjoyed doing all this welding!:D


Chris, that's some beautiful welding action right there! :hail:

Yes, very nice work on that subframe!!! :thumbsup:

Amazing Work Chris! :hail:

Awesome fab work on that subframe Chris:thumbsup:

2 inches narrow from stock Sub.. Should have plenty of turning radius..

Cris those frame rails look pretty narrow!!! HHHMMMMM..:_paranoid

Using C6 upright.. UCA & LCA are built to our own design..

Cris,
Are you still using the 99-02 camaro uca, lca, and spindle?

How narrow is your sub compared to a stock sub?

Your work looks great!

Al- Got a 2007 Mustang that will be in the Optima corral & WOrking on getting the 68 Firebird ready also.. going to the paint shop on Monday..




Hey Chris, what do you have for us this year for SEMA? :unibrow:

[Cris@JCG]

Here are a few more details on the chassis... Since we had it on the table.. We plumbed the brake line that crosses on the front brakes.. Much more easier to do it now....

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2660.jpg

Here are JCG's interlocking Sub-frame connectors... Might as well get those done too...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2657.jpg


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2661.jpg

[Cris@JCG]

We got some assembly going on..

JCG Engine mounts...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2672.jpg

Engine sitting between the frame rails...


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2673.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2675.jpg

The 2010 Camaro Accy drive mounted...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2674.jpg


We designed around Kook's headers.. buy them off the shelf...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2676.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2682.jpg

[Rick D]

Lookin good Cris :thumbsup:

[Jr]

Cris,

Great pictures!

How many inches between #5/#7 exhaust port and the steering arm? Also, how many inches between #8 exhaust port and the frame?

[cencalc6]

Awesome Job Chris! :hail: :cheers:

[72Z/28]

Amazing job Chris:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Richio1]

:thumbsup:

[GrabberGT]

This pic gives me an idea. Camaro vs Mustang build-off!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2675.jpg

[Cris@JCG]

I have been waiting patiently & working hard to get to this phase on this 69… Taking on the task of doing my own version of a chassis has been long & pain staking.. But @ this stage it has been worth the effort.. Now we have to work on a sway bar design!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2694.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2703.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2693.jpg


We moved the transmission tunnel up to gain room for the driveshaft, rear suspension, & exhaust…

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2695.jpg

Finally got to the point where we got wheels on the car to see the what it will be looking like…

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2701.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2699.jpg

[coolwelder62]

Wow!!! lookin Real good.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[frankv11]

now this is one sick build

[Swain]

Wow that is awesome.. Great job :thumbsup:

[Cris@JCG]

Thank you! Got some cool stuff coming on the plumbing for the thirsty Mast Supercharged LS7... Dual 3/8 fuel lines from front to back.. one for each bank of the fuel injectors with dual ZL-1 Camaro fuel moduals.. Carl from Vaporworks has been helping with that...


Wow!!! lookin Real good.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

now this is one sick build

Wow that is awesome.. Great job :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Wow!!! lookin Real good.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

^This. Looking really good guys.

[Jr]

Again, the car looks killer!

[srh3trinity]

This pic gives me an idea. Camaro vs Mustang build-off!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2675.jpg

The only way to pick a winner would be based on performance, because both of these cars are going to look killer.

[Bow Tie 67]

Hey bud I get busy with life and come back to the board and see this. :thumbsup:

Thanks for the goosebumps, simply awesome work. :hail:

[Cris@JCG]

I was asked if we had any updates on the 69.. Here are a few… Reproduction sheet metal is always fun to install & make it conform to the way it should fit.. We got all the body lines done…

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2875.jpg

We also changed the rear of the cowl hood & gave it a better flow to the finish of lines..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2873.jpg

We also had to modify the inside of the hood to clear the Whipple Supercharger..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2896.jpg

The grill has been fun fitting up to the reproduction sheet metal.. So I thought we would try something different.. On a factory 69 grill a metal stripe is use to stiffen the mount of the grill.. but wanted a nicer finish & since lately we have been playing with bonding metal to plastic.. We built a metal strip with studs & bonded it to the grill & while we were @ figured we would make a custom front bumper that would make the grill & front one pcs..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2898.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3046.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3047.jpg

Exterior body modification are done.. Currently in the body shop doing some body work!

[frankv11]

Great job on that grill/bumper. Love the look and the fit :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[tubbed69]

x2 on bumper/grill

[Musclerodz]

that bu,per grill mod is slick. :thumbsup:

[73CPCAMARO]

Cris,

This car is going to be bad ass!

Brian

[Sieg]

Nice nose job possibly one of the cleanest yet! (no puns intended) :thumbsup:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

nice touch, look ma, no bumper... well kinda.

Standard body bonding material?

[Al Moreno]

Cris you guys have that metal plastic bonding technique down! That looks beatiful :hail:

[GregWeld]

Just make that out of billet and sell 'em.

[Gandalf]

Wow! Love the integrated grill & front bumper.

G.

[Cris@JCG]

Thanks for the props guys! I sent over pics to the owner yesterday & was very pleased with the front clip work...

Greg- No billet but maybe get a mold done for Carbon fiber grill with center grill machined out of billet.. MAYBE! :D Thanks making me think early in the morning...

Vince- We use 3M panel adhesive that they use for bonding panels on late model cars... The whole corners on the grill we shaped with this stuff..

[67zo6Camaro]

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3047.jpg

!

I agree, Nice eye on the design of the front. Smooth and simple.

[syborg tt]

Just when you think everything has been done to a 69 someone comes up with a new idea.

I think it's awesome that you guys keep pushing the design idea's.

You guys are truly Trend Setters.

The grill has been fun fitting up to the reproduction sheet metal.. So I thought we would try something different.. On a factory 69 grill a metal stripe is use to stiffen the mount of the grill.. but wanted a nicer finish & since lately we have been playing with bonding metal to plastic.. We built a metal strip with studs & bonded it to the grill & while we were @ figured we would make a custom front bumper that would make the grill & front one pcs..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_2898.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3046.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3047.jpg

Exterior body modification are done.. Currently in the body shop doing some body work!

[DFRESH]

Best looking 69 so far. From back to front man---that looks amazing.

[bhcustomdesigns]

Looks Great!

[Amituk]

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3047.jpg

Exterior body modification are done.. Currently in the body shop doing some body work!

Damn you beat me to it. That looks exactly like my rendering

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/575916_334550436624734_1823437127_n.jpg

Great minds think alike

[72Z/28]

Great job on every single mod on this camaro, the build is slick:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Damn you beat me to it. That looks exactly like my rendering

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/575916_334550436624734_1823437127_n.jpg

Great minds think alike

:faint:

[XLexusTech]

Actually your valance looks better.. this one like others i have seen looks like an open Mouth of a fish.... IMHO.. your squared off looks much better...
FWIW my 2 cents on the version here... take pic and then in Photo chop match the valance opening radius with the outside fender radius (curve)

Not trying to be a fool... this work as all the work on this site is really awesome craftsmanship..

Damn you beat me to it. That looks exactly like my rendering

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/575916_334550436624734_1823437127_n.jpg

Great minds think alike

[Cris@JCG]

Well.. We got one more body modification to do! :D

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3091_zpsb08eceed.jpg

[waynieZ]

Wow the front end looks sweet! Nice work.

[Al Moreno]

Cris any updates on this guy?

[Cris@JCG]

We are working on it Al.. We are currently working on the last details of the front inner well modifications.. Got parts on order.. exhaust system, gas tank, AutoRad radiator support, Vintage Air..& etc.. Next week it comes out of the body shop & goes into the building of rear suspension...


Our work load right now is crazy but this 69 will be moving into the fast pace of finishing per owners request..

Cris any updates on this guy?

[Cris@JCG]

WE got most of the hard work done on the custom dash we doing for this 69.. Currently working on a CAD layout for gages..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3548_zpsbf48ec62.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/jcgrestoration/media/IMG_3548_zpsbf48ec62.jpg.html)

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3547_zps0beae727.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/jcgrestoration/media/IMG_3547_zps0beae727.jpg.html)

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3545_zps83f1a2a7.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/jcgrestoration/media/IMG_3545_zps83f1a2a7.jpg.html)

[syborg tt]

looking forward to seeing the finished product

[frankv11]

Got to love those crisp fine lines on that front clip!!:disgusted:

[Cris@JCG]

Got a small update on our custom 69 Camaro dash… We wanted to maintain some of its original form.. So what most people don’t know is that 70 Nova & used the same metal dash insert.. GM carried it over from the 69 Camaro just tooled up a new gage cluster with dash pad.. So what we did is fabricate a metal dash cluster & dash pad like a 70 Nova with a flat panel where the gages go.. but did not want to just poke holes thru a metal flat panel.. Plus needed access to wire the car.. So we fabricated this gage pod that has more detail than a flat panel with gages .. plus it gives it a 3rd dimension view & is removable.. We will do body work on the dash & paint it with a texture finish.. Got more pods to fabricate for A/C controller, stereo, headlight switch, & wiper.. Coming soon!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3612_zps822727f4.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/jcgrestoration/media/IMG_3612_zps822727f4.jpg.html)

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3613_zps34402c64.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/jcgrestoration/media/IMG_3613_zps34402c64.jpg.html)

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_3615_zps67e90e4e.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/jcgrestoration/media/IMG_3615_zps67e90e4e.jpg.html)

[tubbed69]

That is nice,great job.

[Viperlover]

So is the latest body mod some 599 esque hood louvers?

[Cris@JCG]

In the end the owner did not want a louvered hood.. So that will be something that not will go on this car... But have it for other cars but in a different configuration...


So is the latest body mod some 599 esque hood louvers?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

That's a great look, plus I like the flattter dash pad. Are you going to cover the metal pad area?

[Cris@JCG]

Thanks Vince... We are going to play around with texture paint to duplicate a new plastic finish with smooth painted surface... Still up in the air..


That's a great look, plus I like the flattter dash pad. Are you going to cover the metal pad area?