Need Help with new Wheel Colors

[Track Junky]

So I decided with the Boze new "Track" wheel. I really would like to go with all matt black but dont know how this will look with a hugger orange car with white stripes. I've also considered black perimeter with a gun metal silver in the center or a brushed perimeter with matt black center.

What would you guys do?

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Z06%20wheels%20on%20all%204/Z06Wheelsonall4005.jpg
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Z06%20wheels%20on%20all%204/Z06Wheelsonall4003.jpg

[Vegas69]

Man, I'm having trouble envisioning anything on your car. If we were closer I'd let you test fit mine. How about black and chrome?
http://www.forgeline.com/products/performance-series-step-lip/wc3-18inch-only.html

[Flash68]

Matte black center w brushed hoops! Do it!

[cencalc6]

Man, I'm having trouble envisioning anything on your car. If we were closer I'd let you test fit mine. How about black and chrome?
http://www.forgeline.com/products/performance-series-step-lip/wc3-18inch-only.html

Matte black center w brushed hoops! Do it!

I agree, Black or Gun metal centers with polished lips

[Spiffav8]

Todds got the right idea...for once. ;)

[LS1-IROC]

All matte black would look great if you had black stripes..otherwise, it might look a little disconnected with the white stripes.

[Track Junky]

Man, I'm having trouble envisioning anything on your car. If we were closer I'd let you test fit mine. How about black and chrome?
http://www.forgeline.com/products/performance-series-step-lip/wc3-18inch-only.html

Hmmm...... Forgeline. They definitely make some sweet looking wheels. If I go with Forgeline it definitely has to be an R series wheel.

What do you think of these? They are the EV3R's.

Leave the outside chrome since I have chrome mirrors, bumpers, and the chrome strip along the bottom. Possibly even go with the same colored center in the picture?

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Wheel%20Gallery/wheelsperformancecom_2182_1512290202.gif

[Track Junky]

All matte black would look great if you had black stripes..otherwise, it might look a little disconnected with the white stripes.

Thats what I was thinking.

[ccracin]

Hmmm...... Forgeline. They definitely make some sweet looking wheels. If I go with Forgeline it definitely has to be an R series wheel.

What do you think of these? They are the EV3R's.

Leave the outside chrome since I have chrome mirrors, bumpers, and the chrome strip along the bottom. Possibly even go with the same colored center in the picture?

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Wheel%20Gallery/wheelsperformancecom_2182_1512290202.gif

I think you are on to it now. You could do the BOZE wheel in the same color combo too. :thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

I had the same rational when I bought mine. I have the ZX3R's for weight savings. I don't know if I'd limit myself for a couple lbs though. They have come out with a slough of other killer step lip wheels since. I'm assuming you are going to 18's? The wheel you pictured has grown on me but not one of my favorites. Wheels are a personal choice...... Take your time. Picking wheels is a bitch!:unibrow:

[Track Junky]

This is what the Boze "Track" wheel looks like. I'd like to stick with 17's because of tire costs but there are also some other advantages to going to 18's like being able to use an ATS spindle.

Which one do you guy's think would look better?

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Wheel%20Gallery/Bozetrack1.jpghttp://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Wheel%20Gallery/wheelsperformancecom_2182_1512290202.gif

[ccracin]

I like the Forgline, but with hidden hardware. I hate cleaning wheels to start with, then adding the hardware :mad: nope.! Good luck! I'm with Todd, picking wheels is a bitch!

[Track Junky]

I like the Forgline, but with hidden hardware. I hate cleaning wheels to start with, then adding the hardware :mad: nope.! Good luck! I'm with Todd, picking wheels is a bitch!

I edited my last post and put them side to side. Picking wheels is a huge bitch!!

[LS1-IROC]

Forgeline for sure over the Boze.

[Track Junky]

OK, so these are the four different wheels styles that I have been looking at. Right now I'm thinking chrome outer with powder coated silver center. The Boze isn't a bad looking wheel and the EV3RS isn't bad but might be a little to busy looking. The GA3R isn't the greatest looking wheel but is supposively the lightest Forgeline carries. The WC3R is sort of a mesh style but I think too many others are using it and I'd like to try something different.

Which wheel would you guy's choose from this line up?

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Wheel%20Gallery/WC3Rwheelsperformancecom_2182_1512310153.gif
WC3R
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Wheel%20Gallery/GA3Rwheelsperformancecom_2182_1512220120.gif
GA3R
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Wheel%20Gallery/Bozetrack1.jpg
Track
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Wheel%20Gallery/wheelsperformancecom_2182_1512290202.gif
EV3R

[awr68]

Honestly, I like them all! Really depends on the look you want. The top wheel will give you more of a timeless/classic race car feel...I like that. The bottom one is probably my second choice. I would only do blind harware and consider what spoke/center section gives you a deeper dish. Also, how much weight does chrome outer hoops add? Are you using wheel spacers right now?

[Track Junky]

Honestly, I like them all! Really depends on the look you want. The top wheel will give you more of a timeless/classic race car feel...I like that. The bottom one is probably my second choice. I would only do blind harware and consider what spoke/center section gives you a deeper dish. Also, how much weight does chrome outer hoops add? Are you using wheel spacers right now?

The top one is definitely a great looking wheel. Just seems like alot of people are running it. I never considered the outer chrome adding weight and will have to discuss that with wheel manufacturer and appreciate you bringing that up. I was using spacers with the Vette wheels and the car handled terribly and I'm pretty sure the spacers were to blame so I sold the Vette wheels and am currently rolling around on a borrowed set of wheels from a buddy of mine.

[Track Junky]

I just talked to Forgeline and it looks like the EV3R has been discontinued so I can cross that one off my list.

[awr68]

The Track wheel will look larger than the other two in the 17" sizing and is a great looking choice. I could see it working in a silver-medium dark silver w/ pollished lip. Don't go too dark or it wont look right. Now if you didn't have the white stripes that would be a differant story. Isn't this fun!? :lol: :cheers:

[skatinjay27]

on your car GOLD or BRONZE centers with polished lips would look amazing! i like the first 2 forgeline designs.

[Flash68]

All matte black would look great if you had black stripes..otherwise, it might look a little disconnected with the white stripes.

Thats what I was thinking.

I'd probably think that too if I didn't see it on my car and then I bought it. I think it's a nice contrast and actually different from what everyone else does.

Bottom line, these threads give you 10 different opinions, but who you trying to please? Yourself, or the masses?

All that said, I honestly don't like any of these wheels for YOUR car. It doesn't fit the theme of your car IMO, unless you are taking it a more Pro Touring direction, which I didn't think you were.

I think your car deserves a more race oriented wheel--- like a CCW or something similar. :thumbsup:

[Rybar]

Gaetano, on your car I'd like a step lip 18" wheel with a polished lip with silver, gunmetal or matt black centers.

I think a dark centered wheel would look fine on your car. Of the ones you chose I like the WC3R

[LS1-IROC]

GA3R is a hot looking wheel...best of the four you posted.

As for a dark center...still not feeling it.....your car already has alot going on with it...a dark center will only add to that and not tie into anything already on the car....Chrome lips, brushed center is what I think would look best.

[skatinjay27]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/reverclothing/3017803968/

[Flash68]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/reverclothing/3017803968/

Gold and red? Yes... Gold and orange? Not so sure about that.... :_paranoid

[Track Junky]

on your car GOLD or BRONZE centers with polished lips would look amazing! i like the first 2 forgeline designs.

I definitely am a big fan of bronze, but I think I'm going to start out with polished outer and silver center. I think I can always change color later if I go with their standard color.

[Track Junky]

GA3R is a hot looking wheel...best of the four you posted.

As for a dark center...still not feeling it.....your car already has alot going on with it...a dark center will only add to that and not tie into anything already on the car....Chrome lips, brushed center is what I think would look best.

I agree. As much as I like black wheels, the white stripes aren't a big help in that direction.

[Track Junky]

Gaetano, on your car I'd like a step lip 18" wheel with a polished lip with silver, gunmetal or matt black centers.

I think a dark centered wheel would look fine on your car. Of the ones you chose I like the WC3R

So far I'm leaning toward the WC3R. I was considering the Boze but they dont make a 10.5 so I may be crossing that one off the list which leaves the GA3R and the WC3R.

Talked to Vince today, and as much as I dont want to pay for the 18" tire prices looks like I will be going 18's.

[Track Junky]

I'd probably think that too if I didn't see it on my car and then I bought it. I think it's a nice contrast and actually different from what everyone else does.

Bottom line, these threads give you 10 different opinions, but who you trying to please? Yourself, or the masses?

All that said, I honestly don't like any of these wheels for YOUR car. It doesn't fit the theme of your car IMO, unless you are taking it a more Pro Touring direction, which I didn't think you were.

I think your car deserves a more race oriented wheel--- like a CCW or something similar. :thumbsup:

I'm going to take a quick look at the CCW but keep in mind the Forgelines I'm looking at are race wheels hence the "R" at the end of the title of the wheel and are lighter than the standard wheel they make..

Keep in mind CCW makes great wheels but they tend to be a bit heavy.

As far as the black goes, trust me, I'm thinking of every possible angle to make black work.

[Viperlover]

I vote for black centers, brushed, polished, or chrome lip.

[Jtomas801]

I think a satin/matte black center with polished hoops would look good.


17x9.5" and 17x11" ZX3R polished outer hoop, satin center and satin inner hoop. 275's on the front ( got them from you Junky) and 315's on the back.
http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/47716/2902498030059418106S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2902498030059418106WmpXWF)

Ignore the mess, damn construction going on around here:willy:
http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/47229/2193344100059418106S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2193344100059418106ICUUDb)

Thanks,
Jon

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I like all black too but them white stripes kill it.
i don't think a black center would look good either. Charcoal with a brushed lip might do it....sorry, all i got is 2nd gens for reference.

[Track Junky]

I think a satin/matte black center with polished hoops would look good.


17x9.5" and 17x11" ZX3R polished outer hoop, satin center and satin inner hoop. 275's on the front ( got them from you Junky) and 315's on the back.
http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/47716/2902498030059418106S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2902498030059418106WmpXWF)

Ignore the mess, damn construction going on around here:willy:
http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/47229/2193344100059418106S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2193344100059418106ICUUDb)

Thanks,
Jon

Thanks for your input Jon. Those pictures are a great reference. This is the toughest decision I have ever had to make on my car and I think the reason for that is that what I want may not go with the paint scheme I have. What I'd love to do is go with an all black wheel. I also like the look of a black outer hoop with a dark gun metal center.

Thanks again for the pictures. They certainly are a big help.

I like all black too but them white stripes kill it.
i don't think a black center would look good either. Charcoal with a brushed lip might do it....sorry, all i got is 2nd gens for reference.


Vince, thanks for saving me before I might have made a wrong decision. I had credit card in hand and was 2 seconds from making the phone call before I talked to you.

Although, looking at Jon's car and the pictures you posted may sway me back to a black center.

I will most likely pull the trigger tomorrow. Expect a phone call from me.

[Track Junky]

Thinking GA3R's with gloss black outer and matte black center or WC3R's with entire wheel gloss black with polished fasteners.

I think if I lose that big azz white background number on the door I can get away with it.

Trying to find all the pic's I have before throwing door number stickers on it.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Lowered%20Front%20of%20Car/Anthonysgraduation002.jpg

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/VP__1026.jpg

[Rybar]

I really think polished hoops/lips would look better on your car than black regardless of the center color on the wheels.

[Vegas69]

I'm not a fan of all black wheels ON THE CAR. They look great until they have tires mounted on them and you stand back from the car. They just disappear. Take your time and make the right decision. Go on Forgelines website and look through all the galleries.

[Track Junky]

I really think polished hoops/lips would look better on your car than black regardless of the center color on the wheels.

You could be right, but If do something different with the door numbers and add some graphics I may be able to pull this off.

I just got done with a few things I had to do today and now is the time for me to make the phone call. going to spend another hour or so thinking about it and then I'm making the call.

Decided on the GA3R, just need to ponder colors a bit more.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Wheel%20Gallery/GA3Rwheelsperformancecom_2182_854786715.jpg

[Track Junky]

I'm not a fan of all black wheels ON THE CAR. They look great until they have tires mounted on them and you stand back from the car. They just disappear. Take your time and make the right decision. Go on Forgelines website and look through all the galleries.

Been back and forth many times to the site. Went through every gallery multiple times.

I'm thinking a glossy outer will shine through. Don't know what it is but All Black just keeps running through my mind.

[Rybar]

Gotta agree with Todd on this one. But that's my opinion.

Here's a photo of Mary Pozzi's 73 with an all black GA3R and her car is the new 5th gen Orange:

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_0786.jpg

Here's Steilow's Red Devil with black center GA3R with brushed hoops, I like this better. Or with polished hoops even better on your car:

http://www.sportruck.com/events/sema-show-2010/hot-rods-and-performance/476.jpg

[Track Junky]

Rybar, I went back to the Forgeline site and heres the polished and silver and the black. Thanks for the pic's, I totally see your point. Maybe polished with silver would look better? Or polished with black? What do you think?

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Wheel%20Gallery/GA3R2wheelsperformancecom_2182_854604129.jpg
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Wheel%20Gallery/GA3Rwheelsperformancecom_2182_854786715.jpg

[Rybar]

I think both centers would look good as long as there polished lips not black.

[Track Junky]

If I go polished lip, it almost seems like I have to go with silver just because of the contrast between polished and black.

I think I may be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

[Vegas69]

Print out the wheels and go stare at your car and slam a sixxer and we'll talk in the morning. :unibrow: :thumbsup: :lol:

[Flash68]

I'm starting to like the brushed center / polished hoop deal for your car.

Here are the GA3R's on a marina blue car with white stripes. Looks great in person.

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showpost.php4?p=354311&postcount=40

[Track Junky]

Print out the wheels and go stare at your car and slam a sixxer and we'll talk in the morning. :unibrow: :thumbsup: :lol:

Seriously Bro!! I'm starting to get a head acke. This is killing me!! I told the guy at Wheel Works I'd call him back in an hour with a decision and now I'm stuck again.

Going with a polished lip and silver center swings me over to the WC3R's.
I'm going to call him back and tell him I'll have a decision for him Monday.

Have to work tomorrow but I'll try and get a hold of you on Sunday.


I'm starting to like the brushed center / polished hoop deal for your car.

Here are the GA3R's on a marina blue car with white stripes. Looks great in person.

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showpost.php4?p=354311&postcount=40

Dave, thanks for those pics. The GA3R's with polished hoop and silver center looks pretty damn decent!!

Only now my heads really hurtin'.:willy:

I think I'm going to go to Kinko's and get some real size photos and tape them to my car. :D

[Vegas69]

Dude, I"m telling you, take a week, two weeks, three weeks to figure it out. A wheel choice is a MAJOR decision. You aren't going to change them once they are done. Look at your car, envision the outcome. I'd forget what everbody has to say at pick your favorite wheel design, then figure out what finishes you want.

I have Blue Balz in my garage tonight. :D The all black wheels look good on Gonzo's car. Not sure about yours.....

[Tom.A]

I think any of Forgline's stepped style would look great. JMO I would pick these.
http://www.forgeline.com/product_images/product_photo-xlarge_image-39.jpg

I also think your car would look nice and gritty with CCW Classic's
http://image55.webshots.com/55/7/76/70/528577670KopvDM_ph.jpg

[Vegas69]

Tom, those are exactly the wheels I liked after looking at the site.

[Track Junky]

I think any of Forgline's stepped style would look great. JMO I would pick these.
http://www.forgeline.com/product_images/product_photo-xlarge_image-39.jpg

I also think your car would look nice and gritty with CCW Classic's
http://image55.webshots.com/55/7/76/70/528577670KopvDM_ph.jpg

Tom, those are exactly the wheels I liked after looking at the site.

Thanks Tom, those are definitely one of the top looking wheels and the same one's Todd is running. CCW makes some nice wheels and I went back to their site after D.G. mentioned it and Forgeline definitely has the better choices IMO.

If the Boze made a 10.5 in the Track wheel it would have been a no brainer for me. I talked to Zak, discussed the wheel width issue, and he gave me a great price. I have very limited room in the rear for a wide tire and decided I didn't want to deal with an 11" rim in the rear when I knew for a fact the 10.5's worked.

These are the Forgeline wheels I would have went with but they have been discontinued.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Wheel%20Gallery/wheelsperformancecom_2182_1512290202.gif

[Track Junky]

Dude, I"m telling you, take a week, two weeks, three weeks to figure it out. A wheel choice is a MAJOR decision. You aren't going to change them once they are done. Look at your car, envision the outcome. I'd forget what everbody has to say at pick your favorite wheel design, then figure out what finishes you want.

I have Blue Balz in my garage tonight. :D The all black wheels look good on Gonzo's car. Not sure about yours.....

Gonna have to go back to the Blue Balz project and check it out. Your are probably right, Wheel Works told me the lead time for Forgelines is typically 3-4 weeks. Dont know why I'm in such a hurry. My next track day probably wont be until May so maybe it's time to take a chill pill.

My honest personal opinion, the polished Torque Thrusts, although out dated and on my car for 10 years, looked pretty good. With those wheels on the car for so long it was hard to see a different wheel on it. I liked the look of the Vette wheels also, which tends to steer me to look for a similar style.

[Track Junky]

I have Blue Balz in my garage tonight. :D The all black wheels look good on Gonzo's car. Not sure about yours.....

The black trim and tinted windows make those wheels look perfect on that car. Wouldn't work for me.

That thing is Bad Ass!!

[LS1-IROC]

Have you looked into the NewGen wheel line yet? They have some nice designs and offer some of them in a concave and deep concave forged centers if you like that look. I'm patiently waiting for my deep concave NewGen wheels to show up:unibrow:

[Rybar]

Haha just to throw a wrench in it take a look at this finish option, a nice alternative to black:

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?83860-New-Forgline-wheels

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e75/blakgoat/P1020636.jpg

[Track Junky]

Have you looked into the NewGen wheel line yet? They have some nice designs and offer some of them in a concave and deep concave forged centers if you like that look. I'm patiently waiting for my deep concave NewGen wheels to show up:unibrow:

Hmmm......, nope, but I'm on my way now, thanks.

Haha just to throw a wrench in it take a look at this finish option, a nice alternative to black:

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?83860-New-Forgline-wheels

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e75/blakgoat/P1020636.jpg

Ha Ha, very funny :lol: . Those are cool looking and I want black wheels pretty bad but I agree with what you said. With the chrome mirrors, bumpers, and bottom strip, polished lip is going to have to be the way to go.

Center colors is what I'm working on now and I dont think I will be going with black.

[Flash68]

G-man.... I know you are really trying to make black work..... you could always just make those white stripes black... shouldn't cost too much. :unibrow:

Black stripes would look bad ass with those Forgelines Rybar posted above.

[Track Junky]

G-man.... I know you are really trying to make black work..... you could always just make those white stripes black... shouldn't cost too much. :unibrow:

Black stripes would look bad ass with those Forgelines Rybar posted above.

Already thought about it. Paint isn't out of the question but it wouldn't be stripes. I picked up an aluminum rear deck lid a few months ago and have a couple of other light weight goodies that will need to be painted also so it's going to have to go back to the paint shop anyways but lets save that up date for later. I'm having trouble enough trying to figure out what wheel.

If I go with polished lip and silver center for now I can always powder coat later.

[DEIGuy38]

Hey Gaetano,

I live in Lincoln and have these WC3s with satin black centers and polished outers. If you want to try them give me a call we can work something out. I would hate to see you spend that kind of money and not be completely satisfied. I will pm you with my number. I looked at wheels for 5 years and finally pulled the trigger and I am very happy. Also check these out, they are WC3 with gunmetal centers on an orange 69. http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?77228-Happy-Valentine-s-to-me-with-Forgeline-s-WC3&highlight=

Guy

[Track Junky]

Thanks Guy, really appreciate your help. See you on Sunday.

[Flash68]

Thanks Guy, really appreciate your help. See you on Sunday.

What's Sunday? You talkin Goodguys?

[Track Junky]

What's Sunday? You talkin Goodguys?

Guy lives about 45 minutes from me and I'm going go over to his place and throw his WC3R's on my car to see how they look. They are polished with black centers.

[Spiffav8]

Guy lives about 45 minutes from me and I'm going go over to his place and throw his WC3R's on my car to see how they look. They are polished with black centers.

That's pretty cool. Post up some pictures for us.

Way to go Guy! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

That's pretty cool. Post up some pictures for us.

Way to go Guy! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Definitely very cool of Guy. I'll post pic's Sunday.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Hey Gaetano,

I live in Lincoln and have these WC3s with satin black centers and polished outers. If you want to try them give me a call we can work something out. I would hate to see you spend that kind of money and not be completely satisfied. I will pm you with my number. I looked at wheels for 5 years and finally pulled the trigger and I am very happy. Also check these out, they are WC3 with gunmetal centers on an orange 69. http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?77228-Happy-Valentine-s-to-me-with-Forgeline-s-WC3&highlight=

Guy

now thats what im talking about....
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4392/img5649c.jpg

I didn't know you were local Guy, I assumed you were in NC...make sure you guys take a bunch of long distance pictures too.

[Track Junky]

now thats what im talking about....

Yup, I think thats the ticket. Just need to figure center color. Will see how black looks on Sunday.

[DEIGuy38]

I didn't know you were local Guy, I assumed you were in NC...

Why would you assume I was from NC do I type with an accent. HAHAHA. I am originally from Louisiana. See you Sunday Gaetano

[intocarss]

IMOHO polished with gold or gun metal center looks good against orange or red.... OR gold or gun metal center with semi gloss black lip

[Spiffav8]

Yup, I think thats the ticket. Just need to figure center color. Will see how black looks on Sunday.

Yeah...that's a winner.

[Track Junky]

Why would you assume I was from NC do I type with an accent. HAHAHA. I am originally from Louisiana. See you Sunday Gaetano

Thanks Guy. Really appreciate your help. I honestly never thought picking wheels would be so hard.

IMOHO polished with gold or gun metal center looks good against orange or red.... OR gold or gun metal center with semi gloss black lip

Tell ya' what Jerry, Picking wheels and wheel colors is the hardest decision I have ever had to make for my car. $5000 doesn't come easy for a hard working guy like myself and going to 18's thats where I'll be with tires. Once the decision is made thats it baby!! To be honest with you, my first choice would be all matte black. Only because it feels more race style to me. My second would have something to do with bronze. I've always liked bronze. Maybe a semi gloss or gloss black lip with bronze center.

I still haven't nailed it down yet, but getting help from people like Guy is priceless. He obviously knows what I'm going through.


Yeah...that's a winner.

Could be Curtis...could be. The WC3 is definitely a great looking wheel for my car but I'm also being challenged with the fact that my car is purpose built and according to Forgeline the GA3R is closer to their top racing wheel. That and the fact that I feel a 17" tire gives you more grip. Looks are important to me but performance comes first on the list.

Guess were both kinda' going through the same ordeal right now......decisions, decisions.

[Spiffav8]

Could be Curtis...could be. The WC3 is definitely a great looking wheel for my car but I'm also being challenged with the fact that my car is purpose built and according to Forgeline the GA3R is closer to their top racing wheel. That and the fact that I feel a 17" tire gives you more grip. Looks are important to me but performance comes first on the list.

Guess were both kinda' going through the same ordeal right now......decisions, decisions.

It's never an easy decision, but well worth investing the time and effort to get exactly what you need/want. Way to much money to be unhappy with ones purchase. So be picky.

I pulled up pictures of the WC3 and the GA3R and...yeah I like both. If the GA3R is performance based, that wins the toss up. The one thing I like about it, is that it looks good in just about every color and finish combo.

I'm no expert when it comes to what wheel size is best for performance, but I used to fly with a guy who was huge into race cars and recall him saying that a 16" wheel was best for performance. Is that true....I have no idea, but you might right about running a 17" wheel giving you a bit more grip.

[Vegas69]

The whole small wheel argument is a weak one at this point in my opinion. A modern ZR1 comes with 20/19. Stielow has a 19/18 combo. You do need enough brake to control that wheel. In your case, you can fit a 14" rotor inside an 18" wheel if you choose to do so at a later point. I'd make sure you spec the wheels to clear C6 calipers. One other thing you need to keep in mind is the photos of the wheels are in larger wheels. Once you shrink them down to a 17", they look wrong. I do agree with tire cost at 17" but I'd still buy 18's. R888's aren't to bad. I shopped around and spent under a $1000 for my current set.

[Flash68]

Absolutely. I agree that 17" is minimum and 18" seems ideal these days with what tires are available and our cars seem to like to run either on unrestricted track days or these 200 TW events.

If you're married to a certain tire, then that can easily dictate wheel size.

I am not sure all the guys that run KDW's would actually run them if there were other good options for all those 18x10/18x12 combos out there...

[Ron in SoCal]

It's never an easy decision, but well worth investing the time and effort to get exactly what you need/want. Way to much money to be unhappy with ones purchase. So be picky.

I pulled up pictures of the WC3 and the GA3R and...yeah I like both. If the GA3R is performance based, that wins the toss up. The one thing I like about it, is that it looks good in just about every color and finish combo.

I'm no expert when it comes to what wheel size is best for performance, but I used to fly with a guy who was huge into race cars and recall him saying that a 16" wheel was best for performance. Is that true....I have no idea, but you might right about running a 17" wheel giving you a bit more grip.

In speaking to Scott Main, the Ga3r is a lighter wheel. I do not know the exact load rating of that vs the Wc3, but the 3pc Wc3 is plenty strong. Something like 2000 lbs per corner. Lightweight wins everytime the way Gae drives.

The whole small wheel argument is a weak one at this point in my opinion. A modern ZR1 comes with 20/19. Stielow has a 19/18 combo. You do need enough brake to control that wheel. In your case, you can fit a 14" rotor inside an 18" wheel if you choose to do so at a later point. I'd make sure you spec the wheels to clear C6 calipers. One other thing you need to keep in mind is the photos of the wheels are in larger wheels. Once you shrink them down to a 17", they look wrong. I do agree with tire cost at 17" but I'd still buy 18's. R888's aren't to bad. I shopped around and spent under a $1000 for my current set.

Todd is absolutely correct on the size/looks. I saw a pic of the Ga3r in a 20 and fell in love. Asked Scott about it and he said the smaller wheel looks more 'compact'. Looking at the 17, even the 18 it looks a lot smaller and the spokes change the look iof the wheel. Of course, the Gwc and Gx3 came out about 30 days after I ordered my wheels! My favorite is the De3s, but only comes in 19 and above...

There will always be the MOI argument. J Parsons did a calc on 18 vs 19 and the numbers were really surprising. IIRC, something like 2/10ths per corner braking and accelerating, and 1200 lbs more of force required for just a single inch larger. Of course, you can always make up for that in HP....:thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

I was looking at NT-05's and they dont make a 315 in 18" but they do in a 17". Thats one good reason to go 17.

Brakes would be the next argument but if I go 17 I can always find a set of 6 piston brakes to fit. Aren't the NASCAR guys running 15 and 16" wheels?

Weight is another consideration. I thought I read somewhere that every pound of rotational weight is worth 20 lbs. 17" wheels and tires will most likely be lighter than 18.

Right now I'm thinking GA3R's in 17". They looked pretty good on that '68 that Dave G posted.

Either way, I'll pay a visit to Guy on Sunday and see how the cards fall after seeing how the WC3's look.

[Flash68]

I was looking at NT-05's and they dont make a 315 in 18" but they do in a 17". Thats one good reason to go 17.

Brakes would be the next argument but if I go 17 I can always find a set of 6 piston brakes to fit. Aren't the NASCAR guys running 15 and 16" wheels?

Weight is another consideration. I thought I read somewhere that every pound of rotational weight is worth 20 lbs. 17" wheels and tires will most likely be lighter than 18.

Right now I'm thinking GA3R's in 17". They looked pretty good on that '68 that Dave G posted.

Either way, I'll pay a visit to Guy on Sunday and see how the cards fall after seeing how the WC3's look.

Yep, I like Nitto line a lot. Very good value and good selection in 17's.

Those GA3R's I posted were 18's tho... 265 tire front and 315 rear. Falken 615.

[Track Junky]

Yep, I like Nitto line a lot. Very good value and good selection in 17's.

Those GA3R's I posted were 18's tho... 265 tire front and 315 rear. Falken 615.

I honestly dont think visually anyone will notice a whole lot of difference from 18 to 17. I mean were talking 1/2" all the way around.

[Spiffav8]

Weight is another consideration. I thought I read somewhere that every pound of rotational weight is worth 20 lbs. 17" wheels and tires will most likely be lighter than 18.

I'm sure there's a mathematical formula for that. Something about a spinning mass, p-factor and a train leaving Boston at 9:15am, but I have no idea how to figure that one out.

[Vegas69]

Absolutely. I agree that 17" is minimum and 18" seems ideal these days with what tires are available and our cars seem to like to run either on unrestricted track days or these 200 TW events.

If you're married to a certain tire, then that can easily dictate wheel size.

I am not sure all the guys that run KDW's would actually run them if there were other good options for all those 18x10/18x12 combos out there...

It's got a lot to do with sponsorship. The ps2 is the 200 tread in those sizes.

[Flash68]

It's got a lot to do with sponsorship. The ps2 is the 200 tread in those sizes.

PS2 are damn spendy too.

[Vegas69]

I knew you were going to say that:unibrow: I agree!

[skatinjay27]

I honestly dont think visually anyone will notice a whole lot of difference from 18 to 17. I mean were talking 1/2" all the way around.surprisingly enough just being one size bigger/smaller is very very noticeable. esp on the rear of a 69 with that square-Esq fender

[Track Junky]

surprisingly enough just being one size bigger/smaller is very very noticeable. esp on the rear of a 69 with that square-Esq fender

Funny, now that you mention it. I was just looking at pics with the Vette 18's on the rear of my car and I am currently borrowing 17's and it definitely is noticeable. 18's look way better. Oh well.

[Vegas69]

If you make the wrong decision and go with 17's:unibrow: , you could go fat lip and that will make it appear like an 18" wheel with a step lip. I'm referring to the wheel center. Personally, I'm a big fan of step lip wheels but I thought I'd throw out that option.

[Track Junky]

If you make the wrong decision and go with 17's:unibrow: , you could go fat lip and that will make it appear like an 18" wheel with a step lip. I'm referring to the wheel center. Personally, I'm a big fan of step lip wheels but I thought I'd throw out that option.

Whats a fat lip? You mean not going with a stepped lip? Is it even an option with the GA3R's?

If I could get an 18" 315 in an NT-05 I would probably think about going to 18's in the rear. Up front I'm going to shoot for light weight.

Honest opinion though, do you think 17" tires stick better than 18's? I honestly think 17's stick better than 18's just because the sidewall on an 18 is a bit shorter and wont allow for as much, for lack of a better word, tire flex or compression. I could be wrong but thats what I think. Add the fact that they are lighter and thats a plus.

I know everybody is going to 18's these days but is it for looks or performance?

[Vegas69]

You seem to really like the NT01 on your car. It's so stiff with very little front suspension travel. I have to wonder if making the adjustments we discussed in Buttonwillow will negate the tire deal along with adusting the balance after making the changes. Bigger brakes are an advantage and I feel the 18" wheel looks better. Currently, you may be faster on a 17" wheel. What about down the road? You have two sets of 17" wheels. Why are you buying another set? To gain performance or looks?

[Track Junky]

I think available tire size and brand dictates wheel in my case. I think the NT-05 will probably be the best 200 tw tire to go with but they dont make a 315 for 18" wheels.

I've got two sets of 17" wheels but one set is going on the white car and the other is borrowed.

Looks is second on the list. If I were going for looks I'd keep the white Camaro and sell the orange one. The white one is alot cleaner.

I'll be working on suspension travel as soon as I get my wheels. First I'm going to throw the new tires and wheels on. I have two new sets of Afco springs, 600 lb and 650 lb. I'll start out with the 650 lb springs, adjust the spring spacer for more travel, throw it up on scales for balance, and then hit the alignment shop. I've got a buddy that has an alignment rack. We are going to do 3 or 4 camber/caster set ups. Basically throw shims in, get a setting, pull them back out and label them. 1 set up from Doug at Global West, 2 set ups from Vince, and one from me.

Thought I wasn't going out until May but I'd like to be ready for RTTC so I'm shooting for test and tune at Thunderhill in January on 200 TW tires. NCRC is having a "get your money back if it rains" track day on the 23rd for $99.

[Track Junky]

Well I woke up this morning and I couldn't see...................

Couldn't see going to work that is...................

So I gave Guy a call............


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[Ron in SoCal]

^ that looks sick Gae! 18s look perfect on your car, but I'd go gunmetal/titanium unless you change those white stripes? Thanks for posting those pics. Very close to the ride height I'm shooting for on my ride...:thumbsup:

Now get back to work Bro. You gotta pay for them!

[Spiffav8]

^ that looks sick Gae! 18s look perfect on your car, but I'd go gunmetal/titanium unless you change those white stripes?

X2

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

I'm not sure I am diggin that black center/polished lip on yours.... sizes do look right though I agree.



Thought I wasn't going out until May but I'd like to be ready for RTTC so I'm shooting for test and tune at Thunderhill in January on 200 TW tires. NCRC is having a "get your money back if it rains" track day on the 23rd for $99.

I just registered for that Jan 23 day a couple days. Was hoping you would join in. :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

^ that looks sick Gae! 18s look perfect on your car, but I'd go gunmetal/titanium unless you change those white stripes? Thanks for posting those pics. Very close to the ride height I'm shooting for on my ride...:thumbsup:

Now get back to work Bro. You gotta pay for them!

Thanks Ron, but you know what they say, once you go black...........

X2

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Gracias amigo!!

I'm not sure I am diggin that black center/polished lip on yours.... sizes do look right though I agree.



I just registered for that Jan 23 day a couple days. Was hoping you would join in. :thumbsup:

The pic's dont do these wheels any justice. Guy, his dad, and myself agreed the black looked good!!
Aside from that, both those wheels were fronts.......18x8 with 4 3/4 back space. I'll be going 9.5 wide with 5.5" back space up front and 10.5 wide in the rear with 6.5" back space. I think the deeper dish will make these things pop even more.

Hopefully I'll have my car ready for the 23rd. It will all be contingent on when my wheels show up.

[intocarss]

That looks really good

[Track Junky]

That looks really good

Thanks Jerry. Just showed the pics to my 13 year old son. He says they look good but it makes it look to much like a street car.........go figure :willy:

[Flash68]

Thanks Jerry. Just showed the pics to my 13 year old son. He says they look good but it makes it look to much like a street car.........go figure :willy:

Ha! I tend to agree.... and if that's what you're going for, then great... I mean, you are coming to RTTC this spring right? :unibrow:

[Track Junky]

Ha! I tend to agree.... and if that's what you're going for, then great... I mean, you are coming to RTTC this spring right? :unibrow:

Well thats not good. No of any other options?

RTTC is definitely the plan, and definitely with 200 tread wear tires.

You running the NT-01's?

[Flash68]

Well thats not good. No of any other options?

RTTC is definitely the plan, and definitely with 200 tread wear tires.

You running the NT-01's?

I don't know what to tell ya bro... you keep posting wheel options (or any of us for that matter) and there will be a mixed bag of opinions. I just think there are certain wheels that look more "racy" than others... some have that "pro touring" look and do not look racy to me.... then some can accomplish both. i think the GA3R is a great example... some of the Forgelines in certain finishes are examples. I dunno, this is just my opinion.... everyone has one. :thumbsup:

I have not mounted the NT-01's yet.... will for the January Thunderhill day one way or another... I think I might just pick up a cheap spare set of the C4 ZR1 wheels and put the NT-01s on so I don't have to keep swapping. That cost adds up!

[skatinjay27]

I don't know what to tell ya bro... you keep posting wheel options (or any of us for that matter) and there will be a mixed bag of opinions. I just think there are certain wheels that look more "racy" than others... some have that "pro touring" look and do not look racy to me.... then some can accomplish both. i think the GA3R is a great example... some of the Forgelines in certain finishes are examples. I dunno, this is just my opinion.... everyone has one. :thumbsup:

I have not mounted the NT-01's yet.... will for the January Thunderhill day one way or another... I think I might just pick up a cheap spare set of the C4 ZR1 wheels and put the NT-01s on so I don't have to keep swapping. That cost adds up!
not sure if it would matter for you or if you know this but there are 2 different offset options for the 11" zr1s

[DEIGuy38]

It was nice to meet Gaetano today and BS about camaros. The pics do not do it justice and having to put fronts on the rear didn't help much either. I think the black centers look good on that car. If you did gunmetal it would just add a 4th color to the mix. The black centers tie in with the black grill, spoiler, interior and numbers. It would be a hard decision between the WC3 and GA3. I say go with the GA3R with satin black centers, diamond cut with polished outers. I have some good pics of your car but can't get them small enough to post.

[Flash68]

not sure if it would matter for you or if you know this but there are 2 different offset options for the 11" zr1s

Thanks dude... yeah I saw some different offset options when searching ebay. I'll have to figure out what I got first.

[Track Junky]

It was nice to meet Gaetano today and BS about camaros. The pics do not do it justice and having to put fronts on the rear didn't help much either. I think the black centers look good on that car. If you did gunmetal it would just add a 4th color to the mix. The black centers tie in with the black grill, spoiler, interior and numbers. It would be a hard decision between the WC3 and GA3. I say go with the GA3R with satin black centers, diamond cut with polished outers. I have some good pics of your car but can't get them small enough to post.

Thanks Guy, it was great talking to you and your dad today and thanks again for the help. I agree, the black satin centers with the polished lip looked really good and the WC3 is a sweet wheel but ultimately I know I will go with the GA3R. Purpose built wheel going on a purpose built car. Seems like the consensus is to go with 18's but thats everyone elses choice. I'm sticking with 17's. I just think performance wise its the way to go for my car.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

whaaa whhaa whhaaa whaaaaaaa don't do it..... you gotta go 18's

[Track Junky]

Sorry Vince, done deal. My vendor called Forgeline and they got me the Black Friday deal early and the order was put in Monday....check cleared and order confirmed yesterday.

[Flash68]

I like the 17" call! :thumbsup: Gonna completely transform your car :cheers:

[Track Junky]

Thanks Dave, I'm stoked!! :cheers:

Hopefully I'll see them in 4 weeks :unibrow:

[Flash68]

Hopefully I'll see them in 4 weeks :unibrow:

Well at least they're not Fikse's or you'd be adding a digit to that build time. :D

[Ron in SoCal]

Congrats Gae! Can't go wrong w Forgeline!...:cheers:

[Track Junky]

Thanks Ron. :cheers: Color choice was a tough decision. I really wanted to make the car look a little more sinister going with an all black wheel but with my current color scheme I just wasn't confident I would be able to pull it off hence the starting of this thread.

I appreciate all the help from you guys and ended up going with the GA3R's with satin black centers with the polished lip.

BTW, good luck with the sale of your wheels and moving forward with your car.

[Vegas69]

Like wheel, style, colors, minus the diameter. :unibrow: :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

Like wheel, style, colors, minus the diameter. :unibrow: :thumbsup:

I went with 17's just because you told me to go with 18's :P

[Vegas69]

Wouldn't surprise me...:lol:

[Viperlover]

The black goes well with the grille and number on the side.

[GregWeld]

Remind me to never ask you guys about my wheel choices..... 11 pages of "opinions".... :faint: :faint: :D

[Vince@Meanstreets]

LOL I agree....just do it and frick it! LOL

[Track Junky]

The black goes well with the grille and number on the side.

Thanks Viper, appreciate your input :thumbsup:

Remind me to never ask you guys about my wheel choices..... 11 pages of "opinions".... :faint: :faint: :D

And one page with a "request".... :rofl: :D