57 Eldorado Brougham [Archive] - Page 2

INTMD8

12-29-2013, 09:30 PM

This is what an original 57 Eldorado air cleaner housing looks like-

http://imageshack.us/a/img811/8967/d7lz.jpg

What I'm building won't be an exact copy but it will be built in that style. (The overall dimensions are exactly the same as original). Where the oil bath pods originally were on both sides will now be throttle bodies.

I'll start on the top next. Have to order the chrome "V" as well.

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FETorino

12-29-2013, 09:35 PM

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

Stellar. :king:

As always Jim your build is over the top.

:cheers:

Flash68

12-29-2013, 09:40 PM

Holy moly. That is just cool. :thumbsup:

GregWeld

12-30-2013, 05:26 AM

Holy moly. That is just cool. :thumbsup:

No! That's just cool as hell!!

Rick D

12-30-2013, 05:28 AM

:confused59: :confused59: :confused59:

Wow now that is freaking bad azz!! Jim have ever thought of building cars for living?? :idea: :lol:

GregWeld

12-30-2013, 05:38 AM

:confused59: :confused59: :confused59:

Wow now that is freaking bad azz!! Jim have ever thought of building cars for living?? :idea: :lol:

OR.... Does he want to make a living, so he can build cars????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jon69RagTop

12-30-2013, 05:53 AM

You've got some real talents, nice job-very creative.

INTMD8

12-31-2013, 02:01 PM

Thanks guys!

I did some more work on it and ordered the chrome "V" and star nuts. (still not sure if I will put the star nuts on it as I think it looks pretty clean as-is).

Just looking at pics of the original it seemed to peak in the middle but then the entire thing canted back behind the "V". This is just .190 aluminum so I'm not going to try to put a bunch of curves into it but I still made the top out of 2 pieces to somewhat emulate the original.

I'm thinking at this point I will do the engine in the original colors. (Gold batwing and valve covers, everything else dark blue).

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/9287/g66z.jpg
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GregWeld

12-31-2013, 02:17 PM

Nice work!

So you may have said this before -- but obviously you've got a couple holes for intake air... What's the plan there? Canisters of some kind ala the original??

INTMD8

12-31-2013, 02:57 PM

Thanks Greg.

I have 2 Chevy Cobalt throttle bodies that will go there.

I'm having a friend who owns a machine shop make me some 1/2" thick flanges with the throttle body pattern on one side and 4" round on the other side with an internal bell mouth.

From there I'm not entirely sure yet. I considered making some shrouds to cover the throttle bodies that look like the pods but wanted to see what it looked like first.

waynieZ

12-31-2013, 08:35 PM

Awesome!

INTMD8

12-31-2013, 08:52 PM

Thanks! From an outside prospective, should I sink the 4 star nuts into the top even if they are obviously not attaching dual carbs or filter pods?

fleetus macmullitz

12-31-2013, 09:37 PM

Jim,

I would since you're doing the faux top.

Shoot, some people probably bought those cars just for the batwing. ;)

INTMD8

01-23-2014, 08:44 PM

Skip, come on man it's not a faux top! Faux top would be like draping a batwing over the top of a stock LS intake. This one actually works! Well, it will work one day :lol:

I should have this whole induction/intercooler project finished up by the end of the weekend. I'll then show how it all works.

For now, a couple of progress pics....

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/42/1l3x.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/844/5mt3.jpg

Rick D

01-24-2014, 05:18 AM

Very nice Jim! Man at this rate you should be done with the car by the time you retire! :lol: but seriously you are really stepping it up on this car!!!

INTMD8

01-24-2014, 06:38 PM

Thanks Rick! Yeah it's kind of depressing that I've owned this car for 2 and a half years and there is no end in sight. Probably doesn't help that I keep getting ideas that require me to rebuild everything I've already done, LOL

67zo6Camaro

01-24-2014, 09:45 PM

This is what an original 57 Eldorado air cleaner housing looks like-

http://imageshack.us/a/img811/8967/d7lz.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img69/1083/2cry.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/2782/woxs.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img191/852/10b6.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/6425/euna.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img89/4493/2mkm.jpg

awesome sauce

INTMD8

01-26-2014, 01:57 PM

Thanks!

I didn't get the throttle body flanges so I can't finish it this weekend but here is the liquid side of it.

Triple 5/8 inlet and outlet tubes on the core end tanks drop through internally o-ringed bungs welded to the lower intake plenum. Hoses connect to water manifolds (with stepped internal directors to help promote even flow) terminating to a single 1" inlet and outlet through the rear bulkhead of the intake.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/834/4ria.jpg
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/826/leab.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/829/x6fv.jpg

clill

01-26-2014, 02:00 PM

Son of a bitch that is trick...

E.rodz

01-26-2014, 05:36 PM

wow you continue to amaze me with your out of the box thinking! and your persistent desire to get the car done some day! keep on it my friend and it will be done with no regrets!:thumbsup:

01-27-2014, 02:28 PM

Thanks!

I didn't get the throttle body flanges so I can't finish it this weekend but here is the liquid side of it.

Triple 5/8 inlet and outlet tubes on the core end tanks drop through internally o-ringed bungs welded to the lower intake plenum. Hoses connect to water manifolds (with stepped internal directors to help promote even flow) terminating to a single 1" inlet and outlet through the rear bulkhead of the intake.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/826/leab.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/829/x6fv.jpg

What kind of power will this support? It does look badass!

Code510

01-27-2014, 03:07 PM

:king: :king: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

INTMD8

01-27-2014, 05:39 PM

LOL thanks guys.

As for the intercooler and it's capability, I got the idea from TurboBu's Nova as 417 built a setup for him with a liquid core in a high ram base.

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showpost.php4?p=489992&postcount=19

I think it's the same core, not sure how his water flow is ran but he said flow was limited and his car still runs mid 8's/1100hp.

In other words it should handle way more power than this car is capable of making.

TurboBu

01-28-2014, 07:14 AM

The original for my street strip car that was custom built to fit under the stock hood on my street strip 62 Chevy II
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/TurboBu/Shanes%20TurboBu%20Projects/62%20chevy%20II%20Plain%20Jane/88D814C0-4412-44F9-94F4-0084556D543A-23205-000018DB17130D4D_zpsd42f6385.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/user/TurboBu/media/Shanes%20TurboBu%20Projects/62%20chevy%20II%20Plain%20Jane/88D814C0-4412-44F9-94F4-0084556D543A-23205-000018DB17130D4D_zpsd42f6385.jpg.html)
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/TurboBu/Shanes%20TurboBu%20Projects/62%20chevy%20II%20Plain%20Jane/JaysonCareypic2_zps2a6cb9e1.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/user/TurboBu/media/Shanes%20TurboBu%20Projects/62%20chevy%20II%20Plain%20Jane/JaysonCareypic2_zps2a6cb9e1.jpg.html)
The production model of which you can buy today. It adds 2.5" to the height of the intake, works with either a Hi-ram or Mid-rise Holley intake (obviously any intake can be made to work with the right fab), is 100% American made, has (4)-12 o-ring fittings, and we are told by the core manufacture that it will have no problem supporting 1500hp. The Mid-Rise with the cooler is about the same overall height as a Hi-Ram w/o the cooler.
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/TurboBu/Shanes%20TurboBu%20Projects/62%20chevy%20II%20Plain%20Jane/52F609DC-CC9F-4986-B531-13C5DA801885-23205-000018DB0671E5B5_zps467b48fe.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/user/TurboBu/media/Shanes%20TurboBu%20Projects/62%20chevy%20II%20Plain%20Jane/52F609DC-CC9F-4986-B531-13C5DA801885-23205-000018DB0671E5B5_zps467b48fe.jpg.html)
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/TurboBu/Shanes%20TurboBu%20Projects/62%20chevy%20II%20Plain%20Jane/417cooler1_zpsead47f78.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/user/TurboBu/media/Shanes%20TurboBu%20Projects/62%20chevy%20II%20Plain%20Jane/417cooler1_zpsead47f78.jpg.html)

Anyone interested in more information can email me at [email protected] I don't make of these and didn't bring up the subject, I was asked for more information so I provided it. Please don't delete this post.

Windsor GTO

01-28-2014, 07:38 AM

The work is great. I cant wait to see the finished product

INTMD8

01-28-2014, 08:56 AM

The original for my street strip car that was custom built to fit under the stock hood on my street strip 62 Chevy II
http://rs574.pbsrc.com/albums/ss190/TurboBu/Shanes%20TurboBu%20Projects/62%20chevy%20II%20Plain%20Jane/88D814C0-4412-44F9-94F4-0084556D543A-23205-000018DB17130D4D_zpsd42f6385.jpg~320x480

So the one built for your car had 2 inlets and outlets? What size?

INTMD8

01-28-2014, 08:57 AM

The work is great. I cant wait to see the finished product

Thanks :)

TurboBu

01-30-2014, 08:42 PM

INTMD8

01-31-2014, 06:04 PM

(2) -10 inlets (2) -10 outlets but only a single 5/8" heater hose to and from the trunk. All of that is changing to 4 -12 hoses from to rear and a production intercooler on a custom intake to test the i/c.

Damn, I'm surprised you fit -10 through the bottom. (unless you married the core to the intake).

Your planned changes will make a huge difference!

INTMD8

01-31-2014, 06:11 PM

Throttle bodies are on. -3 fitting under the front star nut connects a short line to the top/front of the core end tank. Removing the nut will be the high point air bleed when filling the system.

Since I decided the car will be flex fuel but primarily ran on E85 (and in the tradition of doing everything twice) I ordered a new pump setup from Squash performance. Designed as a return type system, billet top and hanger with dual Walbro E85 pumps.

http://imageshack.com/a/img819/5712/7cmq.jpg
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Al Moreno

01-31-2014, 08:40 PM

I LOVE the amount of creativity going into this build:thumbsup: Fantastic job!!!

INTMD8

03-09-2014, 07:46 PM

Thanks!!! A bit more progress. I built a new core support which gives me a bigger opening for a radiator.

Now using dual fans from a 2010 F150. One 15in fan and one 14.5in fan and they flow a ton of air.

Air filters will be behind the headlights.

Also received my pistons from CP. Could have used a shelf piston but I specifically wanted a spherical dish with no valve reliefs.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/829/l082.jpg
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E.rodz

03-09-2014, 08:08 PM

wow very inspirational for sure. I love the it gets done when it gets done attitude! and just keep focusing the details love the symmetrical look with non symmetrical turbos and the air cleaner just further enhances the details..keep up the great work and we will keep following!

INTMD8

03-10-2014, 05:48 PM

Thanks, I appreciate it! The air to air intercooler setup with the induction tube coming from one side was bugging the hell out of me. Just that was the inspiration for changing the induction.

INTMD8

03-16-2014, 09:01 PM

Didn't get much done this weekend, where does the time go.

Modded the inner fenders to match the RS front suspension-

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/577/jtrk.jpg
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INTMD8

05-22-2014, 09:49 PM

I decided some time ago that I didn't like the trunk floor. I previously removed the spare tire well and filled it but the entire panel was a bit floppy with no factory gas tank supporting it, plus it wasn't symmetrical.

This is a big panel and making it was a bit more challenging than I expected. I made about 5 of these things and this is the only one that didn't end up in the dumpster.

I also made hat channels on the mag brake for some extra support.

Before and after-

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/IMG_07851_zps1039e19d.jpg
http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/IMG_07871_zps21be8547.jpg
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sokoloka

05-23-2014, 04:25 AM

Looks fantastic! Any chance you've gotten your new wheels back from chrome yet?

Absolutely love this build.

dontlifttoshift

05-23-2014, 04:37 AM

The other one still wouldn't flatten out? :welder: This looks good, too.

Rick D

05-23-2014, 06:21 AM

Looks great Jim!!

RussMurco

05-23-2014, 07:00 AM

Thanks, I appreciate it! The air to air intercooler setup with the induction tube coming from one side was bugging the hell out of me. Just that was the inspiration for changing the induction.
I love it when OCD personalities build a car! It makes me feel "normal"!!!

INTMD8

05-25-2014, 06:38 AM

Well looks like I posted that too soon! Thanks guys but after final welding the panel had a bit of warpage so I drilled out 200 plug welds and tossed that one in the dumpster too :lostmarbles:

I had the holes for the welds spaced .500 apart and after looking at it I think a bit overkill.

The wheels are chromed but not in my hands yet. They went back to Evod for painting of the simulated sidewall and other details along with mounting the tires.

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/Evod-chrome2_zpsa371fd5d.jpg

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/Evod-chrome1_zps7d621a9b.jpg

GregWeld

05-25-2014, 07:17 AM

Will trade house for wheels....

INTMD8

06-16-2014, 08:46 PM

Greg, done! :relax:

Sooo, I finally installed another bastard whore trunk floor into this thing. Changed the design and copied the one in my 59 Cadillac. (same bead width and spacing).

Hat channels are 16 gauge, floor is 18 gauge. Turned out really nice and is strong as hell. Never thought it would be this much work!

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/IMG_10261_zpsbdaaa9cc.jpg

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/IMG_10271_zps620f9815.jpg

NOPANTS68

06-16-2014, 09:16 PM

This car is a collection of so many great ideas and execution. great job man!

andrewb70

08-31-2014, 08:08 AM

Jim,

Any updates?

Andrew

INTMD8

08-31-2014, 02:55 PM

Hi Andrew.

I haven't done a damn thing actually. Broke myself buying a new house that has a ton of garage space (2 car, 4 car and a 36x47) but don't currently have a functional shop.

The wheels did finally arrive and they actually fit the car this time which is nice.

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/photo42_zps3978e441.jpg
http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/photo41_zps41bf83dd.jpg
http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/photo43_zps8d9df81a.jpg

GregWeld

08-31-2014, 03:15 PM

Just crazy kool wheels!!!

Smart move on the house!

Rick D

09-01-2014, 05:29 AM

Jim those wheels are freaking awesome!!!

Nice on the new house!!! Now it will take you a year to get the garage setup, unless your GW :mock:

INTMD8

01-06-2015, 07:55 PM

Jim those wheels are freaking awesome!!!

Nice on the new house!!! Now it will take you a year to get the garage setup, unless your GW :mock:

It appears you are right as I am definitely not GW! Added another car which doesn't help either.

Got as far as gas/220 ran out and new trusses installed for lift clearance. Resume again in the spring.

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/trusses-finished_zps1dfec863.jpg

GregWeld

01-06-2015, 08:52 PM

Going to love your new shop! Nothing better than a warm place with great light and a good lift!!

Matt@BOS

01-06-2015, 08:55 PM

It appears you are right as I am definitely not GW! Added another car which doesn't help either.

Got as far as gas/220 ran out and new trusses installed for lift clearance. Resume again in the spring.

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/trusses-finished_zps1dfec863.jpg

Awesome space!

Ricochet

01-07-2015, 12:30 PM

This car is just the coolest! The details are amzing! Keep up the great work!

waynieZ

01-07-2015, 12:44 PM

Its going to be great watching what come out of there! Nice shop.

Flash68

01-07-2015, 02:55 PM

Coolest trusses. Makes that place much more inviting over a box. :thumbsup:

grendel

01-07-2015, 04:16 PM

Sort of like Bill Engvall,

Here's your motor:

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/1643786-v12-ls1-build.html

and I really want the 59 :)

Musclerodz

01-07-2015, 06:07 PM

Love those trusses.

INTMD8

01-07-2015, 07:25 PM

Thanks guys!

I'm really looking forward to having some room to breathe.

Being able to roll the car off the lift and not be outside? Just that will be great!

:)

Rick D

01-08-2015, 05:21 AM

Looks great Jim, congrats on the new place!! Sooo what new car did you pick up?? It wouldn't be a new Z would it??? :popcorn2:

INTMD8

01-08-2015, 09:57 AM

Looks great Jim, congrats on the new place!! Sooo what new car did you pick up?? It wouldn't be a new Z would it??? :popcorn2:

Thanks!

And no, nothing brand new, 95 berlinetta.

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/F355-home_zpse731bdea.jpg

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/F355-home2_zps5c70fcd5.jpg

ProTouring442

01-09-2015, 05:43 PM

Thanks!

And no, nothing brand new, 95 berlinetta.

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/F355-home_zpse731bdea.jpg

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/F355-home2_zps5c70fcd5.jpg

Nice! Now you need to come and visit us at FerrariChat!

andrewb70

02-11-2015, 09:25 AM

Updates on the caddy?

Andrew

Justin@EntropyRad

02-11-2015, 11:20 AM

Sweet body on a sick frame

Chevette

11-08-2015, 02:47 PM

Any news, any updates? I for one have been going through withdrawals since your last Caddy post.

sokoloka

11-09-2015, 03:52 PM

Any news, any updates? I for one have been going through withdrawals since your last Caddy post.

You're not the only one!

INTMD8

02-16-2016, 12:43 PM

Haha! I've been working on the garage so long I have lost interest in working on the Brougham. Have to move it from the garage to the workshop and snow on the ground is not motivating me.

Maybe I'll get back on it when the place thaws out? Only update is the garage is done so I now have a good place to work on stuff :)

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/IMG_2647_zpsc7udws3y.jpg
http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/shop-panoramic%20_zpsp1gol8sy.jpg

Flash68

02-16-2016, 01:36 PM

Nice!

Pool table + that floor + me on the break = quarter panel dent in the F Car

:smiley_smack:

waynieZ

02-16-2016, 03:20 PM

Wow what a place to work! Very Nice.

INTMD8

04-18-2016, 12:15 PM

Thanks! I finally got through most of my other auto maintenance stuff that was piling up and dug out the Brougham yesterday.

Happy to say the rear floater setup works out perfectly in that, I can easily put the rear wheels on without disconnecting any suspension parts.

Going back to work on this now, probably will just start a new thread as imageshack has all of my older photos as missing or mega-sized.

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/Brougham-5_zpsas7zzp3w.jpg
http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s460/IINNTTMMDD88/Brougham-3_zpstbixdcwf.jpg
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