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Moving this over from introductions.
A few more pics of my 69 torino build. Got the floor and firewall cutout a couple of months ago. I began the front clip/suspension this weekend. I used C4 spindles and upper arms. The rest of it is custom built to fit 325/30 on 19x11 wheels all the way round. The V10 will be pushed 5" into the firewall giving lots of room for the steering rack.
daemon2
09-05-2011, 09:34 PM
Did you fab the lower control arm?
Yes, I fabbed the lower arm and all the frame sections
wellis77
09-05-2011, 10:48 PM
Looks good! Your lower control arms are nice. In the pics with the rack, it looks like it is forward of the tie rod on the spindle? If that's the case, you could end up with some ackerman and bump issues. I like the V10 move, I can relate...
http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab324/wellis77/file-77.jpg
I have many hours runnning the whole setup in a susp. design program...it all works quite well.
My V10 is actually a ford , not the dodge
Wheels showed up on Friday. 19x11x 6.375 backspace. Put on one of my
325x30 tires for testing, these will be on all four corners.
Got a few more bits made. The Corvette to Mustang inner tie rod adapters, rack mounts and shock mounts. Have the initial alignment specs set at +5 castor / -1/2 camber. Set the rack mounts to get .010" bumpsteer through 4" of wheel travel.
cencalc6
10-02-2011, 08:16 PM
Excellent Job! :thumbsup:
torino420
10-02-2011, 08:21 PM
Nice fab work! Look forward to more updates.
Now to really put some time in on this project. My wife and kids are gone for a month to South Africa, so now I can work on it big time. Its been awhile since I have done anything on it. I have spent the last few days getting the front clip installed and it should be a roller soon. The next thing to do is the rear tubs/quarters and rail modifications.
wellis77
12-07-2011, 01:37 AM
My V10 is actually a ford , not the dodge
That I noticed, just cool to see another V10 going in.
You're doing some amazing fab on this build. I really like the tunnel you've built, I think I'm going to adapt some of that to my build. I am planning to rework mine anyhow. What size tube did you use for that? Very nice work overall!
Can you tell me where the engine is sitting in relation to the front axle centerline? I'm limited on space in the cab of the car so I'll have some hanging forward of my centerline but really don't want to. However, at 6'6" legroom is a necessity.
I have moved the engine into the firewall 5". The v10 and the old 390 are the same length if you include the waterpumps. My number 1 cyl. is roughly on the the axle centerline. I am tall also but will still have lots of room for my legs, but I probably have 8" more of wheel base than you. The rect. stuff is 2x3 or 2x4 with .120 wall. The lower main rails are 1.5" round with .120 wall and the uppers are 1.5"rd with.065 wall. The small rd tubes are 1" x.065 wall
The rd tubes by the eng/firewall are 1.5" x .120 wall. The front frame rails will get a few diagonals yet. Tonight I bagan cutting out the rear floor above the diff. I have to raise the tubs and rails about 2.5" . Then that will tie into the rear of the tunnel tubes. This car will not be getting a cage or rollbar since I want to be able to use the rear seat. I will put bolt in pads for a removeable rollbar.
What are you reworking on your project. Are there any recent pics?
wellis77
12-07-2011, 10:17 PM
Thanks for the info Gary. I wasn't happy with how my frame rails came out so I ordered some custom bent front and rear rails from AME. I've also been struggling with some sort of a back brace. I wanted to do something like what you did but didn't have it in my head visually. I initially used 1x3 tube but couldn't figure out what to do above and just wasn't happy with it overall. What you did is more or less what I was trying to come up with in my head, just never thought about using round tube for the entire thing. I don't have any recent pics but I'll have some in a week and a half. I'm in Switzerland and building in Michigan; I'll be back for 2 weeks over Christmas and am going to town.
I have done this backbone setup before and it works quite well. The front and rear susp. is tied together this way and the sills are still part of the structure. I will be running a torque arm rear susp. and dual 3" exh. so that tunnel will be full. It also allows the seats to be mounted right on the flat floor if desired.
FETorino
12-07-2011, 10:47 PM
Not that I'm bias about your car choice or anything.
coolwelder62
12-08-2011, 05:37 AM
This is a very cool project.The fabrication work is outstanding.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
radrambler
12-08-2011, 11:31 AM
:thumbsup:
NICE WORK...
Tom
Thanks for the compliments.
Thursday night was not too productive. It took over 2 hours to get the rear glass out. I want to reuse it, so being careful was the name of the game.
Got the rear floor trimmed away and raised the rails. Now I can get the Speedtech Performance torque arm into place and build the shock mounts.
Then its time to cut off the quarters and cut out the tubs. The tubs get raised about 2.5" and then widened about an inch outboard. Going to be a busy weekend.
wellis77
12-10-2011, 12:33 AM
Looks good. How are you planning to tie in the upper tubes of your back brace?
A few more pics of the progress. Will, you can see in the pic how I finished the rear of the tunnel.
The tub is raised 2.5" ,the tire is at full comp.
I found no surprises when I cut off the quarter, the driver side may be different though.
wellis77
12-11-2011, 10:29 PM
Looks great Gary. Love how you finished the tunnel off. Thanks for the pic. Keep up the great work!
I've been busy. Now have the trans mount and front torque arm mount done. Both rear tubs are raised. The steering column is mounted and temporarily connected. Both rear quarters need to be flared/bulged outward, hope to have them done this week. Then I can begin the firewall/trans tunnel covers.
torino420
12-18-2011, 08:24 PM
Love the updates, that is one serious tunnel! Keep the updates coming.
wellis77
12-19-2011, 03:19 AM
Beautiful work Gary!
vector006
12-19-2011, 10:05 AM
Wow you're moving along quickly, looking awesome so far!
For your reference, Rad Rods by Troy did fender flares on their project Torino recently (if you haven't checked it out already).
Thanks. Since the better half is gone I can put some hours in on it. I will probably even work on it on christmas day, the neighbours will love me. The family is back on the 28th so I have to keep up the motivation until then.
Vector006 , yes I have seen that build at Rad Rides, that car is incredible.
I now have the quarters widened 1.25" and tacked back on. Took a lot of messing around to get them right. Next thing to do is the wheel opening lip. I will have to custom form them for all four corners. Progress will go back to slow now, I have a todo list a mile long that will put this back on my "spare time" list. I will keep fabbing up the small parts in the meantime.
DENTGUY
12-29-2011, 05:09 PM
Damn, I really like the stance...
Blake Foster
12-29-2011, 07:41 PM
Damn those are big quarters!!! maybe a set of 22" :unibrow:
wellis77
12-30-2011, 03:47 AM
Looks good Gary.
Got to work on the power window motor conversion. Cut the adapters brackets out of 3/16 and welded them to the back side of the crank. I will have to re index the window arm to be able to spin the whole assembly down to get the motor below the glass. The door already has the mounting holes. I still have to make the drive gear bushing that will go inside the original crank mount cap.
I also got my header flanges cut out of 3/8" stainless. Since the car is now tucked away in my spare garage I will have to wait before I can play with those. A 5 tube collector should be fun to fab.
wellis77
01-17-2012, 10:38 PM
Picked up my 5-1 collectors from Stainless headers, a work of art!
FETorino
02-04-2012, 03:47 PM
I'm looking for some Torino updates and a Bronco picture.
Sorry for the absent replies, but no progress on the Torino project. Had to put it on hold while I finish ten thousand other things. I have picked up a few parts, an aluminum rad and the front seats. I have spent some time planning some of the things to be done, but thats all thats gone on there. I hope to get some time on it in about a month....hopefully.
Heres a few pics of my daily driven Bronco. These are during construction and at a couple of events I drove 1500 miles to attend.
FETorino
08-29-2012, 10:51 PM
Sweet Bronco. I'm guessing you built the coil over conversion. I looks like you did a 4 link or something out back. I thought about that on my wifes but just went with stock style springs and leafs and bypass shocks.
I hope to see some Torino updates from you in a month. :D
WSSix
08-30-2012, 06:53 AM
I have no idea how I've missed this thread. I love what you're doing with the Torino. Best of luck moving forward
WSSix..its easy to miss when I haven't posted in months.
FE Torino I have been watching your thread on your Torino , thats going to be one hell of a car.
I built the frame in my Bronco along with everything else. Things rust so bad here using any stock 30-40 yr old stuff is pointless. It has a 393 running on propane with a ZF 5 spd , 4.56 gears and dual detroit lockers. The front 44axle is 2 piece housing and still uses stock radius arms. The rear uses leafs and fox shocks. Gets about 16" of travel frt and rear. Using coilovers in the rear means little or no rear seat and that doesn't work for me.
FETorino
08-30-2012, 09:06 PM
WSSix..its easy to miss when I haven't posted in months.
FE Torino I have been watching your thread on your Torino , thats going to be one hell of a car.
I built the frame in my Bronco along with everything else. Things rust so bad here using any stock 30-40 yr old stuff is pointless. It has a 393 running on propane with a ZF 5 spd , 4.56 gears and dual detroit lockers. The front 44axle is 2 piece housing and still uses stock radius arms. The rear uses leafs and fox shocks. Gets about 16" of travel frt and rear. Using coilovers in the rear means little or no rear seat and that doesn't work for me.
The Bronco sounds like a nice rig.
Your build, the Twin Torino guys and Jasons formal roof with the DSE back half all inspired me to step mine up a notch. So its partly your fault.:D
You can blame me but don't send me the bill.
badmatt
08-31-2012, 09:22 AM
smithberg racing has a CNC profile for these V10 heads btw.
just a heads up.
srh3trinity
08-31-2012, 09:31 AM
I would think building a PT car with good road manners would be much easier than building a Bronco like that for a DD. Very cool.
Hey look ...some updates. Had some time to get a few things done on the car. Got to work on the seat and rad mounts. Designed and built the hood hinges and started the fender mounts. Did a little more work on the pedal arrangment. Shortened the front fenders 2" over the tire which will translate to less front overhang. Also took another inch out of the front corner of the fender and got the engine bay vents sculpted and fabbed in. Still need to fab the wheel opening lip for all four corners, plus a million other things.
I think the next thing will be constructing the hood out of fiberglass. I could buy one but none of the ones available suit the plan, so I will have to make it. The rear quarter extensions will also need to have a mold pulled off them to turn them into fiberglass.
Check out the pics.
FETorino
12-01-2012, 10:38 PM
Gary
Glad to see you back at the car. :thumbsup: How's the progress on those headers?
What's the plan for the grille and bumper up front? Talladega style?
:cheers:
wellis77
12-01-2012, 11:23 PM
Your progress looks good. Nice work!
WSSix
12-02-2012, 05:39 AM
Looking good. Glad to see you making progress. Will you put a grill on the back side of the vents like Trans Ams have or is the plan to leave it open?
Thanks for the compliments. Seeing everyone elses progress is a big motivation.
It sucks not having time to work on it and with so many other things changing for me I 'm not sure how much I will be able to work on it. Just have to do what I can.
I have not started the headers yet, I still have to order the materials.
The grille will be stock ,but instead of flush mount like a talledega, I will set it back a couple of inches. I think I will trim the bumpers down and make them thinner so I can use a valance panel which will be a splitter as well.
The side vents and air intake scoops will have a screen in the openings.
Firebirdsteve
12-02-2012, 11:40 AM
Nice to see you at it Gary. Get that Honeydew list cleaned up and you will be on your way! :unibrow:
I didn't think being out of work would be so time consuming. I have been helping build a car for the Detroit Autorama Ridler Award. Between doing that project and taking care of other things my Torino project has been shoved into my spare garage. I do work on it but I can only get in small amounts of time to play. On one of my U.S. roadtrips recently I stopped by Summit in Reno and picked up a Vintage air system. I want this car to be comfortable on long roadtrips south in the heat of summer. I began the dash fabrication with the panel vent pods. The vents are from a Ford Flex, I think. I made the pods from fiberglass. The stock dash in a Torino doesn't appeal to me so that will be custom fabbed , also from fiberglass. I have one header completed and the other is about 1/3 done. I also got started on the custom hood. Took a blank off the stock hood inner and outer and will use the cowl hood section that I cut off a mustang hood. The back of the cowl will be closed and the air intake will be on the front edge. I made the wooden buck in which I can hammer form the four fender lips in. I just picked up a shrinker/stretcher and once its mounted I can make the fender lips.
Now, after typing this out with my hi tech two finger style, it does look like have done something on the car.
(the pic of the header won't upload, I will take some new ones and upload later)
64pontiac
10-17-2013, 09:09 PM
This is a pretty cool project! I always wanted to do one of these Torinos. Like the ideas man! And a fellow Canuk to boot?
64pontiac
10-17-2013, 09:10 PM
Hey by any chance is this Gary formerly of Speedtech? Just noticed the bronco and thought maybe I could put two and two together. sorry if I am wrong!
Yes Tyler...its me, how are you doing? how's the big new shop?
64pontiac
10-17-2013, 09:18 PM
Its super busy here, mostly cause I don't have enough hands on deck in the shop. I would hire you in a heartbeat if you were closer! And I wouldnt call it "big", just comfortable. They are never big enough right? We don't have a ton of space, but we make do.
Got a super cool V10 powered car going to SEMa in a few weeks. Thats been the story of my life for the last 6 months. SEMA = Living under a rock
You think you could put any more tire up front on the Torino??
I will be at sema this year, your car will be where? Just like doing a car for the Ridler.....its a life choice.
Weather is to poopy out there, -20c is not my thing. How about you come out here!!!
No matter what the shop size , its to small , that's for sure!!!
The Torino will EASILY fit 19x12 with a 345 on all four corners. I will run the 325s I have for now.
64pontiac
10-17-2013, 09:50 PM
We are in the Paxton/vortech booth. I will shoot you my number we can meet up.
Are you modifying the v10, forced induction, or anything of the sort?
Just a custom intake and the headers....stock insides...it may get some cams or a small shot of NOS if it needs a little more. It might see a track day or two, but only for some fun. I don't know what its like where you are, but here, if your 40 kmh (24 mph) over the speed limit they can take your car.
FETorino
10-17-2013, 11:32 PM
Gary
I'm glad to see you back and making some progress on this car. :thumbsup: Just when I think I'm going over the top on my Torino I look at yours and say I'm taking the easy way out.:faint:
This is definitely going to be the GT version.:cheers:
Rob...your engine by itself puts yours over the top, let alone the chassis.
Once both headers are done and the AC is laid out, I will pull the motor and begin the sheetmetal work for the eng. comp. and grille area. My work garage is in my backyard and the car is stored in the garage in the front yard. Makes for a lot of walking to get anything done. Taking the short cut through the house is going to wear out the carpet.
Flash68
10-18-2013, 10:46 AM
The Torino will EASILY fit 19x12 with a 345 on all four corners. I will run the 325s I have for now.
Now that's what I'm talking about! :thumbsup:
:guns:
jarhead
10-18-2013, 11:32 AM
glad you moved this over here Gary, WOW!
Here is a couple of header pics
FETorino
10-18-2013, 09:48 PM
Here is a couple of header pics
Now you're just showing off :lmao:
:thumbsup:
:cheers:
tubbed69
10-18-2013, 10:16 PM
thats a very impressive build,keep pics coming:thumbsup:
[QUOTE=FETorino;511385]Now you're just showing off
Showing off.....I'm just tryin' to keep up LOL
I really don't want my next update to take 9 months........
FETorino
12-14-2013, 07:56 PM
Now you're just showing off
Showing off.....I'm just tryin' to keep up LOL
I really don't want my next update to take 9 months........
Ok it's been 2 months what have you got to show us?:lol:
Ok it's been 2 months what have you got to show us?:lol:
How about the 2014 Ridler award winner!!!
jarhead
04-04-2016, 07:15 AM
Gary, any updates?
Thanks, Joe
Sadly jarhead....Nothing done on the Torino. Other interests have taken all my time lately. Restore a 77 Bronco for my wife , rebuild and update my 71 Bronco to have it ready for a road trip to AZ last march. Sell my house , finish all the projects at work and close my shop. Right now, I'm packing for long distance move. Packing a house up that I lived in for 26 years is a lot of work.
I know , I know.....a whole lot of excuses why the Torino isn't done.....sorry
How about couple pics of my Broncos.....
Dave Pratt
07-24-2016, 04:32 AM
Gary I'm just down the road in Pitt Meadows,great work on the Torino! Packing up after 26 years is a bitch I know.Would have liked to have seen the Torino driving around town.Good luck on the move...
Dave
Thanks Dave, You will eventually see the car here in the lower mainland. Just a little behind schedule....meaning... way over due.
jarhead
07-28-2016, 02:25 PM
Nice Bronco's Gary, I've had a few myself
Josh@Ridetech
07-29-2016, 02:22 PM
Here is a couple of header pics
:cheers:
jarhead
03-09-2018, 06:51 AM
Gary,
checking in, how ya doing?
Joe
Hi all. Its been a very busy few years. Finish a long distance move, renos on house, build a garage, build a pool and do all the labour trade work with friends.
I have had the Torino sitting on the build cart tempting me to work on it. I finally cleared the garage to put in a few months on it and make some real headway.
Time for some ME time.
I will update this over the next little bit to get the build progress up to date.
Here is a teaser pic....
jarhead
02-06-2020, 06:20 AM
Looks good Gary!
Thanks Joe. I've been checking out your progress, your really getting into it. Nice work.
Dave Pratt
02-07-2020, 01:51 AM
Gary that looks killer so far! Hopefully you'll get some more time to work on it...what color are you going with
WSSix
02-07-2020, 06:34 PM
YES! Really glad to see this coming back as I loved what you were doing with the car. Keep us updated, please!
Thanks guys. Its a great feeling to be back at it and not just dreaming about it. Even had doubts about actually ever finishing it. lol.
So the first step was to re envision the plan. I decided to put the suspension on it and take it off the chassis cart. Get it on the floor at ride height to have a look where it is and get back into the project.
First thing was a revamp of the rear suspension. I changed it up to a 3 link with a panhard. ( I cant find my pics of that just yet) next was to begin the building of the floors. The first sections done were the area above the diff and the trans tunnel. I did get most of the actual floor pans built but haven't installed them yet.
Then I got to work on the rear spoiler. In the original plan I was going to make a fiberglass trunk lid and spoiler. I decided to make it out of steel and use the stock lid since its in great shape. The top edge of the spoiler will have a Gurney flap.
A few more pics of the spoiler fab
I built the hammer form to fab the fender lips just before I mothballed the project. I got to work on the fender lips. The rears would also need the inner tubs tied into the wheel opening …. so needless to say it took a while.
Dave … not certain on the color yet. It has changed many times over the years...right now a dark metallic red
More progress... good times. Started building a fiberglass hood for the Torino way back. Had a plan of fiberglass hood and making it a cowl hood for space for the intake I was going to build. When I had the car on the ground to get an idea where I was at I laid the hood and cowl on it to check it out.
It just looked wrong.
So back to thinking about what to do....
Checked into just buying a stock flat fiberglass hood. The truck shipping to Canada was insane so I had to make it myself. I can't justify buying a hood that's going to get modified anyway... might as well make my own exactly how I want it.
I did have a stock steel hood that I split the inner from the outer to use as my molds. Just grind off the pinch weld, clean it up and lay down the gel and glass.
So as I got started on the hood my engine details changed. I picked up a brand new M122 Eaton supercharger and intercooler off ebay . Of coarse I will have to build an intake for it and the hood will need a raised area to clear the intercooler but it only needs to be raised a little over an inch.
This is the M122 sitting on the engine. Its off a Caddy. It has an 8 rib belt drive and the V10 has a 8 rib drive on some applications so that will be easy. Besides making an intake the alternator will need to be relocated on a custom bracket.
The Caddy intake is cast as part of the supercharger. I will cut all that off to make room for mine.
Also in these pics the firewall and inner fenders are coming together.
jarhead
02-11-2020, 03:24 PM
Man this is Gold!
Love the work Gary!
WSSix
02-12-2020, 06:19 PM
I know it's a Ford but your mock up made me think of a 66/67 Chevelle big bock hood that had the cast ribs on the side. They had a round profile to them as well. Maybe that would be a way to have a cowl hood that's not your typical wedge shape like so many cowl hoods appear to be. Just a thought. I'm sure you'll think of something great.
Thanks Trey.
The factory hood lines on a Torino are quite pronounced at the front of the hood. I have taken the factory lines and raised them up as they go back ... so its kinda cowl like. The rear is closed and the back half has bulged sides on the raised part.
Once i get the bottom done I will flip it and drop it on the car and get some better pics.
WSSix
02-15-2020, 06:40 AM
Sounds nice. Can't wait to see pics.
torino420
02-17-2020, 06:04 AM
Glad to see you're back on it, looking good!
Glad to see you're back on it, looking good!
It feels great getting to work on it after so long. Thanks.
Had a good weekend working on the Torino. Made some real progress on the hood. Its all roughed out and now ready for the fine tuning on the finished product. I'm very pleased with how it turned out especially since it was made with no proper mold.
As you can see in the pics its a two piece setup. The engine section must open first before the front can be opened. The front is just access to PS , overflow bottle and airbox. I wanted the look of the Talledega with the header panel but didn't want the length that it has.
Designed a new set of taillight housings a while back.
Rick, a friend of mine who is a CNC machinist took my drawing and turned it into a set of billet housings for me.
He also did some gas caps for me. I will be mounting the fuel filler on the sail panel and to make it uniform I will have a filler on both sides of the car. The fuel tank will be moved forward and I wont be using the stock license plate filler.
Got a batch of caps and had 2 sets anodized for my fuel fillers.
jarhead
02-18-2020, 02:38 PM
you are on a roll Gary, that hood is cool as is the rest of it.
WSSix
02-18-2020, 06:45 PM
Yup, I knew you'd come up with something great for the hood. I love it. Great work!
Dave Pratt
02-19-2020, 08:01 AM
Gary I can't say enough about that hood and your design...very cool to say the least.The gas cap and tail lights are right up there too. Are you planning on tracking the car down the road?Great work...
Thanks guys.
Dave...
I intend to use it for long roadtrips and cruising around town. My wife and I love roadtrips. I do have access to a private roadcoarse (AREA 27) just up the road and I'm looking forward to trying it out on the track. Realistically, if I wanted a track car this would not be it.
Been getting as much done as I can. I will have to take a break in a couple of months for other commitments. I will continue to get small stuff done while taking care of other things.
Back to working on the custom intake tonight. Milled the bottom of it flat after tacking it together. Now to clamp it down and weld it up. I should be able to get a bunch done this coming weekend.
Dave Pratt
02-20-2020, 04:29 AM
Yes I guess you're not too far from Area 27.I was up there last summer with a buddy of mine from Penticton.Nice facility from what I saw.Great drive coming down from Penticton.I'll be up there a few times this summer for sure.Until then I'll be keeping up on your build,great work.
Let me know when youll be around Dave. Do you drive your car up when you come up here?
Dave Pratt
02-23-2020, 08:46 AM
I always drive my car up there every chance I get.My buddy in Penticton has a 2010 911 Porsche but always wants to drive my old sled.Can't blame him really.Mine is just meat and potatoes compared to his car.406 SBC/T-56 with 3.90:1 rear gear with about 450hp/450tq.I'm learning more and more every day how to work on it.Just installing Corvette C-6 front/C-4 rear brakes (Thanks Tobin and Kore3!)I'm getting there...but it's a BLAST! I'll be up there a bunch in the summer I'll be sure to drop you a line.Really enjoying your build thread
Spent a couple of hours Friday night surfacing the intake manifold. Now that its finished I will black wrinkle paint it to match the intercooler. Still have to build the intake duct that extends out the throttle body.
Saturday I worked on the radiator box and air filter mount. Got that all sheeted in and mostly welded. Began carving the foam for the mold to make the air cleaner duct. This will be made out of fiberglass. Hopefully I can get the first fiberglass on tomorrow night.
The foam is now fiberglass
I keep deciding to and then deciding against removing the gutters, chrome around the windows and flush mount the glass. If I were to leave the chrome around the windows I would black it out …...But … If I remove it all, it gives the car a more modern look. I'm not too worried about the fact its a ton of work to get rid of the chrome on this car. Its definitely not the easiest car to get rid of the chrome on.
I am currently on the remove it plan...…
Any comments on the idea are welcome ....
Pics of the car sides, one with the chrome off, one with it still on.
jarhead
02-27-2020, 08:15 AM
I keep deciding to and then deciding against removing the gutters, chrome around the windows and flush mount the glass. If I were to leave the chrome around the windows I would black it out …...But … If I remove it all, it gives the car a more modern look. I'm not too worried about the fact its a ton of work to get rid of the chrome on this car. Its definitely not the easiest car to get rid of the chrome on.
I am currently on the remove it plan...…
Any comments on the idea are welcome ....
Pics of the car sides, one with the chrome off, one with it still on.
I am leaving mine on my Torino but blacking it out. I asked the question on the paint forum and got several responses...
https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php?t=56371
jarhead
02-27-2020, 08:17 AM
The foam is now fiberglass
Very cool, would love to know the process to get the foam out of the fiberglass?
Tsaints1115
02-27-2020, 11:01 AM
I keep deciding to and then deciding against removing the gutters, chrome around the windows and flush mount the glass. If I were to leave the chrome around the windows I would black it out …...But … If I remove it all, it gives the car a more modern look. I'm not too worried about the fact its a ton of work to get rid of the chrome on this car. Its definitely not the easiest car to get rid of the chrome on.
I am currently on the remove it plan...…
Any comments on the idea are welcome ....
Pics of the car sides, one with the chrome off, one with it still on.
I'm contemplating the same on my 69 Cougar but the chrome is nowhere near the level of integration that you have. The side however is similar as it ties into the "hockey stick" at the rear quarter windows.
WSSix
02-27-2020, 05:31 PM
Leave the trim and cerakote it a darker color. Doesn't need to be black, but should be muted for sure.
Very cool, would love to know the process to get the foam out of the fiberglass?
Hey Joe. its very easy to remove the foam. Its a urethane foam that can be purchased as a board in different thicknesses. Its also available as a 2 part liquid.
It shapes very easily with a knife, sandpaper and just you hand. Carve your shape just a little smaller than your desired size and then glass it up which adds the thickness of your final part. After the glass is dry you just carve it out of the inside.
I use it for spoilers , door panels, dash parts and even side rear view mirror bodies.
Thanx for the replies on the trim question and I read through Joes thread on the same question.
My car will most likely be 2 tone and I have removed a lot of the trim already. The bumpers will be body color. It will have black bits on the exterior also.
I did find a pic online of a Torino fastback with all the trim gone, The car is one color, gray. It is extremely well finished but to much gray for my liking.
https://www.streetmusclemag.com/features/car-features/turning-heads-carlos-tantaleans-one-of-a-kind-1969-ford-torino/
I'm still undecided, but I think I'm back on leave it and paint it. I will wait until its the last thing to do before bodywork to decide.
Goosesdad
02-28-2020, 09:10 AM
Hey Joe. its very easy to remove the foam. Its a urethane foam that can be purchased as a board in different thicknesses. Its also available as a 2 part liquid.
It shapes very easily with a knife, sandpaper and just you hand. Carve your shape just a little smaller than your desired size and then glass it up which adds the thickness of your final part. After the glass is dry you just carve it out of the inside.
I use it for spoilers , door panels, dash parts and even side rear view mirror bodies.
Hi Gary - do you have a good online source for the solid board foam?
Hi Gary - do you have a good online source for the solid board foam?
No , sorry John. I am able to get it right from a plastics supplier close by.
I would think that any plastics/ fiberglass supplier would be able to help you.
The stuff is expensive, but after using it you will find the price is worth the time saving when making custom one only parts.
slimjim
02-29-2020, 07:51 AM
No , sorry John. I am able to get it right from a plastics supplier close by.
I would think that any plastics/ fiberglass supplier would be able to help you.
The stuff is expensive, but after using it you will find the price is worth the time saving when making custom one only parts.
Hi Gary - do you have a good online source for the solid board foam?
This is the same stuff right?
https://www.fibreglast.com/category/Vacuum_Bagging_Sandwich_Core
This is the same stuff right?
https://www.fibreglast.com/category/Vacuum_Bagging_Sandwich_Core
That is the stuff. Some of those products are intended for different purposes, such as stiffening a part.
I use the polyurethane foam board , usually in the 2 inch thick. You can glue it together to make it thicker. When I was making the air box part in the pics I held two pieces of foam together with 6 inch pieces of welding rod stuck into it.
Hope everyone is well.
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Have been working on the rear of the car for a few days. Got the bumper sectioned, trimmed down and made the mounting. Like the look of the narrow bumpers similar to a Mustang or Cougar. Had to fabricate the lower valance from scratch. Made a recess for the license plate and cutouts for the exhaust.
Still want to fine tune the bumper ends for a uniform gap.
I am quite happy with the look and now I'm thinking of chroming the bumpers instead of painting like my original plan.
I also want to find a couple of BU lights that surface mount into the lower valance.
Goosesdad
04-03-2020, 07:09 AM
Looks great!
Dave Pratt
04-07-2020, 01:16 PM
Gary those tail light housings came out really nice to say the least.Looking forward to what comes next on the build.Really nice work...
Thanks for the compliments guys.
I still have some details to finish the rear bumper fitment but decided to get some progress on the front bumper. Quartered the bumper and narrowed the height, much like the rear. Made the main mount brackets, still have to make the brackets out to the bumper ends. Reshaped the outer ends to follow the grille ends. I extended the top plane of the bumper so I could do away with the filler panel between the bumper and grille.
Now that the front bumper has taken shape I can get going on the fender leading edges and then on to the airdam ….. can't wait
Also pulled out all my AC parts to plan out the hose routing and mounting of the components. Definitely going to need more fittings.
Worked on the front fender corners over the weekend. My wife was away for the weekend so I spent Saturday night imagineering the front spoiler and attachments. Wanted a hidden quick release system for the front spoiler so loading on a trailer or service work will be painless. Fabbed the fender side of the mounts for the spoiler. Need to get some over centre buckles for the spoiler side of the mounts. The actual spoiler will be made out of fiberglass, I will start making the pieces for that this week.
Ordered from amazon some very slender high intensity LED lights that should work for backup lights. I think the same lights, if available in amber with dual intensity, will work for front turn lights.
ScotI
04-27-2020, 06:25 AM
This thing is freakin' great.
Did a bunch of details fitting and fine tuning of the front bumper. Probably wont see any of it in the pics. Still a couple small things I want to address.
Now that the bumper is near its final state I began making the front spoiler.
I use metal house flashing to make the 4 basic shapes of the spoiler. Also I made 2 curved pieces that will form the front corners. One panel does both front sections and a left and right panel for the sides. Then I trimmed and fitted the four main panels onto the car and cut the corners to fit the curved corner caps. Clecoed the pieces together along with some tape to hold it all in place.
I mixed up a small batch of resin to apply over the joints to hold it all together. The next step is to remove the assembly and grind rough spots off the back and then fiberglass it solid. I will use the flashing metal for a mold for the centre duct and then cut out the opening and glass it on.
syborg tt
05-08-2020, 06:46 AM
Very nice work and I am looking forward to seeing the final spoiler. Also, I hope your garage is detached as my family is never happy when I come in the house after working with any type of fiberglass or epoxy and my garage is detached.
ps I am also not a fan of the smell.
Did a bunch of details fitting and fine tuning of the front bumper. Probably wont see any of it in the pics. Still a couple small things I want to address.
Now that the bumper is near its final state I began making the front spoiler.
I use metal house flashing to make the 4 basic shapes of the spoiler. Also I made 2 curved pieces that will form the front corners. One panel does both front sections and a left and right panel for the sides. Then I trimmed and fitted the four main panels onto the car and cut the corners to fit the curved corner caps. Clecoed the pieces together along with some tape to hold it all in place.
I mixed up a small batch of resin to apply over the joints to hold it all together. The next step is to remove the assembly and grind rough spots off the back and then fiberglass it solid. I will use the flashing metal for a mold for the centre duct and then cut out the opening and glass it on.
jarhead
05-08-2020, 10:00 AM
front looks much more clean!
Very nice work and I am looking forward to seeing the final spoiler. Also, I hope your garage is detached as my family is never happy when I come in the house after working with any type of fiberglass or epoxy and my garage is detached.
ps I am also not a fan of the smell.
My wife can't stand the smell, but the garage is detached. She said to me today... No more fiberglassing … I said .. Oh..
I work with fiberglass often at work and love working with it. The smell and the itch that others don't like doesn't bother me. I always remind her of the nail polish and acetone she uses. I always lose points on that one. lol
Thanks. It looks big and flat right now but once the holes are cut it will look even better
front looks much more clean!
Yes, I agree, thanks. . Sink the grille a little deeper and clean up the bulk.. It looks smoother.
Hi all. Haven't had much time to really get big stuff done but have been working a bit on the little things.... you know... those 1000 tiny little things that need to get done to finish the big stuff.
Although, this weekend I got some real time on it. Got the bumpers nearly ready for chrome. The front needs a couple of small spots cleaned up and the rear needs a license plate light. Also did some work on the spoiler, still lots of details to do though.
waynieZ
06-15-2020, 10:01 AM
Looking good!
Goosesdad
06-16-2020, 07:31 AM
Sweeet.
214Chevy
06-17-2020, 11:17 AM
Very nice fiberglass work.
Goosesdad
06-18-2020, 11:15 AM
You gonna take a mold off this? Pretty darn nice looking piece not too.
Thanks everyone.
Goosedad No plans to pull a mold. It will only fit my car anyway.
Been doing the extra layers of glass for rigidity and while its drying i am figuring out how to set up the AC and fuse box. Going to need to have space also for the ECU. It all has to be relatively easy to service. I cant stand it when stuff should be easy to service and you have to remove half the car to do it.
Some update pics. Ordered the guages and stereo head unit and have been working on the dash and console. Got the AC condenser mounted along with the air to water intercooler radiator mounted. Got some fab work done on the rear seats . Had to rework the front seat crossbars for the new seats I'm going with. Worked on the clutch and brake pedal geometry and have them all setup. Still have to fab the throttle pedal. Fuel cell is made and mounted but still have to layout the lines.
WSSix
10-30-2020, 04:55 PM
Looks great, Gary!
Thanks Trey.
Had to push the Torino into the corner of the shop. Gotta hold up my end of some trade work and work on a friends car. Still working on some small stuff for it though and will post some more pics soon.
Some of the pieces coming together.
All the switches are momentary and some will operate self latching relays for thier function. There will be backlighting around the switch in the recessed opening.
The taillights are non sequential LED . The taillight housing still needs to be polished and have the center section blacked out.
waynieZ
12-08-2020, 07:46 PM
The car looks great, nice work on all the glass work.
Goosesdad
12-09-2020, 07:05 AM
Excellent! Could you share more about the custom engraved switch panel?
TimeWarpF100
12-10-2020, 08:50 AM
Not sure how I missed this build. Now caught up on reading entire thread!
Looking fantastic! Love the dare to be different v-10
Thanks everyone. What would you like to know about the switch panel Goosedad?
214Chevy
12-11-2020, 06:34 AM
Very nice custom pieces...
Dave Pratt
12-12-2020, 04:47 PM
Coming along great Gary.What seats are those you're using up front they look darn comfortable...
Thanks everyone for the compliments.
Dave , the seats are from a 2019 BRZ. They do fit me well but will have to be recovered with to match the interior finish.
Goosesdad
12-14-2020, 05:46 PM
Thanks everyone. What would you like to know about the switch panel Goosedad?
Hi Gary. Laser cut holes for the switches? Looks like a small radius into the holes? Does the plate have a slight radius/shape to it? Did this after engraving the letters? Thanks for the info!
Goosedad....
The switches snap into rectangle holes in a 18 ga steel mount panel. The face plate is 1/8 aluminum and the oval holes and lettering were milled in on a CNC machine by a friend of mine. The face plate and the mount panel are spaced apart by .200" and between them is a LED dimmable light strip. The light glows up through the oval gap around the switch. The aluminum face plate is flat and is anodized. I decided not to backlight the lettering and keep the dash more simple.
Goosesdad
12-16-2020, 09:46 AM
Goosedad....
The switches snap into rectangle holes in a 18 ga steel mount panel. The face plate is 1/8 aluminum and the oval holes and lettering were milled in on a CNC machine by a friend of mine. The face plate and the mount panel are spaced apart by .200" and between them is a LED dimmable light strip. The light glows up through the oval gap around the switch. The aluminum face plate is flat and is anodized. I decided not to backlight the lettering and keep the dash more simple.
Looks excellent. Thanks for the info!
syborg tt
12-29-2020, 06:04 AM
I just went back to the beginning of the thread and I am blown away by your level of knowledge, skill and ability's. So many cool idea's and such a cool car.
I just went back to the beginning of the thread and I am blown away by your level of knowledge, skill and ability's. So many cool idea's and such a cool car.
Thanks Marty. I do this stuff for a living every day at work. Over the years I have worked at race shops and hot rod shops and have been part of some pretty cool builds. I'm really excited about the car I'm doing at work right now because I have almost a free hand on the build. Which usually isn't the way the customer does it.
And before anyone asks.... I can't discuss it until its revealed....Sorry
Dave Pratt
12-24-2021, 09:37 AM
Gary how's the progress going on your build.It's almost Christmas we need pics...
jarhead
12-28-2021, 03:17 PM
Gary how's the progress going on your build.It's almost Christmas we need pics...
agree
Hi all.
Yes I'm still here.
Pulled the car out of the corner of the shop 2 weeks ago. Been mostly planning door panels and plumbing and figuring out all that little stuff that needs to be done.
Ordered a set of sport mirrors off Ebay. Figured my parts list for the AC lines and intercooler lines.
So ....no pics of anything on my car.. but how about a pic of my friends tpye 65 coupe I was working on.
syborg tt
01-26-2022, 11:40 AM
I am good with this pic as it is beautiful.
Hi all.
Yes I'm still here.
Pulled the car out of the corner of the shop 2 weeks ago. Been mostly planning door panels and plumbing and figuring out all that little stuff that needs to be done.
Ordered a set of sport mirrors off Ebay. Figured my parts list for the AC lines and intercooler lines.
So ....no pics of anything on my car.. but how about a pic of my friends tpye 65 coupe I was working on.
Dave Pratt
01-28-2022, 06:25 AM
The paint looks great on the Daytona Coupe.Is that the Factory Five body? It's my #1 car by far.Great lines...feel free to post more shouts of the coupe
WSSix
01-28-2022, 06:29 PM
Yeah, those are great looking cars. I'd much rather have one than a Cobra replica. I've never been a convertible or roadster person though.
Glad you're making progress on your Torino, too.
Got the stock manual window cranks converted to power. Cut the stock manual crank gear and clutch off the mechanism, Then fabbed some brackets to mount the motors. On the rear 1/4 windows I had to re index the arm to drop the motor for glass clearance. On the doors I just needed to cut some of the door frame for motor clearance. Gave all the parts a glass beading to clean them up and fixed the cracks in the tracks. Put a little rattle can rebuild on the pieces. Need to order some track guides and they are ready to go. Will pack them up for assembly day for now.
Thanks ,,,Yes , that is a Factory Five Daytona coupe Type 65 kit. My friend was in over her head on the assembly part. Its powered by a Gen 3 Coyote. When its finished being polished I will post a pic.
jarhead
02-02-2022, 11:16 AM
Looking good Gary , power windows will be nice!
BTW I have a PDF showing window adjustments on Torino/Fairlane. If you would like a copy PM me your email.
Joe
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