View Full Version : Flat Plane LSX is alive
intocarss
08-25-2011, 01:22 PM
http://www.lingenfelter.com/LPEforumfiles/showthread.php?t=904
Autokraft
08-25-2011, 02:24 PM
358 cu in 9000 RPM's! That is nothing but COOL:hail:
Ron in SoCal
08-25-2011, 03:44 PM
What exactly is a 'flat plane crank' ? No angles at all?
Chad-1stGen
08-25-2011, 04:10 PM
What exactly is a 'flat plane crank' ? No angles at all?
Haven't clicked the link yet but I thought it was 180* motor. Compared to your normal American V8 which is a 90* motor.
EDIT: I decided to look it up. Per wikipedia:
The cross-plane or two-plane crankshaft is the configuration used in most V8 road cars. The first and last of the four crank pins are at 180° with respect to each other as are the second and third, with each pair at 90° to the other, so that viewed from the end the crankshaft forms a cross. The cross-plane can achieve very good balance but requires heavy counterweights on the crankshaft. This makes the cross-plane V8 a slow-revving engine that cannot speed up or slow down very quickly compared to other designs because of the greater rotating mass. While the firing of the cross-plane V8 is regular overall, the firing of each bank is LRLLRLRR. In stock cars with dual exhausts, this results in the typical V8 burble sound that many people have come to associate with American V8s. In all-out racing cars it leads to the need to connect exhaust pipes between the two banks to design an optimal exhaust system, resulting in an exhaust system that resembles a bundle of snakes as in the Ford GT40. This complex and encumbering exhaust system has been a major problem for single-seater racing car designers, so they tend to use flat-plane crankshafts instead.
The flat-plane or single-plane crankshaft has crank pins at 180°. They are imperfectly balanced and thus produce vibrations unless balance shafts are used, with a counter rotating pair flanking the crankshaft to counter second order vibration transverse to the crankshaft centerline. As it does not require counterweights, the crankshaft has less mass and thus inertia, allowing higher rpm and quicker acceleration. The design was popularized in modern racing with the Coventry Climax 1.5 L (92 cu in) V8 that evolved from a cross-plane to a flat-plane configuration. Flat-plane V8s on road cars come from Ferrari (every V8 model they ever made, from the 1973 308 GT4, to the new F458), Lotus (the Esprit V8), TVR (the Speed Eight) and McLaren (the MP4-12C). This design is popular in racing engines, the most famous example being the Cosworth DFV.[16]
intocarss
08-25-2011, 04:33 PM
What exactly is a 'flat plane crank' ? No angles at all?
http://www.projectm71.com/Cross_FlatPlane.htm
http://www.ferrari.com/English/GT_Sport%20Cars/Classiche/All_Models/F430/Innovation_Technologies/Pages/Article_F430_Flat_lane_craftshaft.aspx
And Bob says Hi..
Ron in SoCal
08-25-2011, 04:38 PM
Haha...thx Jerry! I miss that guy....;)
Efi69Cam
08-28-2011, 01:02 PM
I've read that what keeps most ohv engines back in terms of RPM is the valve train, not the reciprocating assembly.
Either way that engine makes nice music!
ArisESQ
08-28-2011, 10:28 PM
That motor sounds awesome!
This may be a stupid question, but was there ever a flat plane chevy small block used in any race cars or something at some point?
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