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XcYZ
02-02-2006, 10:29 AM
Who's gonna win and what's your call on the spread. I hope the Steelers win - for Jody's sake. :lol:

TravisB
02-02-2006, 10:34 AM
I voted for the seahawks.....since this would be there first! :)
I really didn't follow either team

MarkM66
02-02-2006, 10:56 AM
I'm just glad I know who's playing in it now, :lol: .

DCreations
02-02-2006, 11:04 AM
Seahawks baby!!!! :D The steelers gotta remember they are going up against Shaun Alexander.......... not Jason Alexander :lol:


http://www.moviepostershop.com/item_img/B/2/B-230.jpg

camcojb
02-02-2006, 11:42 AM
Definitely Steelers. Don't think they can be beat at this point in time. This of course assumes that the team plays like they have the last several weeks.


Jody

mdprovee
02-02-2006, 12:07 PM
I am going for the Steelers...I am a Raiders fan.. so go AFC.

Stuart Adams
02-02-2006, 12:08 PM
Steelers. 31-17.

61Bubbletop
02-02-2006, 12:17 PM
I vote for the Steelers..Then Jody can splurge on a new gym bag with a logo you can actually see.. :lol:

RaceMan
02-02-2006, 12:28 PM
I gotta root for the Seahawks but I don't think they can beat to Steelers , maybe if they get some pointers from my Patriots they can do it :yes:

promax/vennom#16
02-02-2006, 01:19 PM
I am pulling for the Seahawks.My 8 year old son likes the Steelers along with his mother ( the only reason she likes the Steelers , is because of Coach Cowher, she thinks he is good looking, I tell her he looks like Dudley Do Rite.) :lol: So lets go Seahawks!! :cheering:
Dave

Ricochet
02-02-2006, 03:02 PM
I'll be supporting the Steelers on this one. The whole team is awesome and seem unstoppable at this time. It would also be nice to see Bettis get his ring before retiring.

camcojb
02-02-2006, 03:43 PM
I vote for the Steelers..Then Jody can splurge on a new gym bag with a logo you can actually see.. :lol:

That's funny Jeff! I loaned that to my son and my wife washed it for some reason and the logo came off! Oh well, I need a real suitcase with wheels like the rest of you guys anyway.

Jody

clill
02-02-2006, 03:55 PM
Jody...You wanna come drive the Mule and the 55 Chevy Sunday afternoon about 4:00 ?

camcojb
02-02-2006, 04:24 PM
Jody...You wanna come drive the Mule and the 55 Chevy Sunday afternoon about 4:00 ?

Yeah, if you install a 48" plasma in the car for the drive. And yes, it has to work!

Jody

Speedster
02-02-2006, 04:54 PM
The Steelers gotta take it. They have been so tough lately. Can't believe how they blasted their way to the Superbowl this year.

Sales@Dutchboys
02-02-2006, 05:14 PM
Im going to take the steelers

hotwheels
02-02-2006, 06:16 PM
i have to go with the steeler's, but i would love to see the seahawk's pull an upset.........

markss28
02-03-2006, 07:50 AM
I say Steelers. At this point in the game I am disapointed of so many teams. I thought for sure the Patriots would go far and also the Colts. What happened to them. Any way go Cowboys. I know they are not playing but if their not I dont care to much who is.

zbugger
02-05-2006, 08:51 PM
Well, looks like the Steelers won it. No offense Jody and other Steeler lovers, but I think it was given to them. Damn officials.

camcojb
02-05-2006, 08:55 PM
Well, looks like the Steelers won it. No offense Jody and other Steeler lovers, but I think it was given to them. Damn officials.

And I disagree. Seattle was holding constantly and only got called a couple times. Stevens fumble that wasn't called a fumble. The pick play in the end zone. Seattle had many opportunities to win the game and frankly looked better to me. But they didn't make the plays they had to and lost by two scores.

Jody

zbugger
02-05-2006, 09:01 PM
And I disagree. Seattle was holding constantly and only got called a couple times. Stevens fumble that wasn't called a fumble. The pick play in the end zone. Seattle had many opportunities to win the game and frankly looked better to me. But they didn't make the plays they had to and lost by two scores.

Jody
Well, I think only Ben's elbow broke the plane, the touchdown brought back by holding wasn't holding, and the "push-off" wasn't really a push off as the defender wasn't affected by the contact. I do agree that the Seahawks didn't take advantage of their better play, as they did outplay the Steelers, but in pivotal situations, the refs blew it. There were a few times the announcers even made comments about bad calls. Yeah, I think Stevens did fumble the ball, but that was obviously a blown call. As for the holding not being called, it always happens in the NFL without being called. But I also noticed the Steelers center starting to lean backwards before snapping the ball. Isn't that a false start? Never called either.

Stuart Adams
02-05-2006, 09:02 PM
Steelers baby, awesome.

srh3trinity
02-06-2006, 10:33 AM
Hasselbeck also got called for a "chop block" after he threw the interception when he was trying to tackle the db that intercepted it, that added a 15 yard penalty and was another to add to the bogus call list. Of course, he shouldn't have thrown the interception in the first place.

XcYZ
02-06-2006, 10:39 AM
How about the Stones? That was a horrible performance.

camcojb
02-06-2006, 10:51 AM
Well, I think only Ben's elbow broke the plane, the touchdown brought back by holding wasn't holding, and the "push-off" wasn't really a push off as the defender wasn't affected by the contact. I do agree that the Seahawks didn't take advantage of their better play, as they did outplay the Steelers, but in pivotal situations, the refs blew it. There were a few times the announcers even made comments about bad calls. Yeah, I think Stevens did fumble the ball, but that was obviously a blown call. As for the holding not being called, it always happens in the NFL without being called. But I also noticed the Steelers center starting to lean backwards before snapping the ball. Isn't that a false start? Never called either.

OK

http://www.camcojb.com/sbXVtd.jpg

Stuart Adams
02-06-2006, 11:28 AM
Great pic Jody. Looks like a TD to me. Hopefully Sean Alexander will sign with Pittsburgh next year.

srh3trinity
02-06-2006, 11:44 AM
I should have put this at the end of my post, I am glad that Bettis got to go out the way he did. I wouldn't mind seeing Shaun Alexander somewhere else, although I have gotten used to seeing him as a Seahawk, Gotta pull for former Crimson Tide players.

JayR
02-06-2006, 12:16 PM
MVP should have been given to ref, Bill Leavy......

DCreations
02-06-2006, 12:27 PM
How about the Stones? That was a horrible performance.



I was not sober at all by that time, but I did think the same. He sounded bad :(

Stuart Adams
02-06-2006, 01:56 PM
The Stones are coming to Vegas. I checked prices for good seats, are you sitting down, no sit down, 400.00 and up per ticket, WTF.

You guessed it - I passed.

zbugger
02-06-2006, 02:27 PM
OK

http://www.camcojb.com/sbXVtd.jpg
Still looks like his elbow to me. But with that shot, the ref should have said inconclusive.

camcojb
02-06-2006, 02:40 PM
Still looks like his elbow to me. But with that shot, the ref should have said inconclusive.

The call on the field was TD. If they rule inconclusive on the replay the call on the field stands.......... TD. There is a better pic and I'll find it but he was over and there certainly was no evidence to overturn that. Even ESPN is apparently showing a shot that shows it was the right call.

Bad calls both ways, but the Seahawks made too many mistakes and couldn't make a play when they needed to. Steelers played their worst playoff game by far and still won by 11 points.

Jody

Damn True
02-06-2006, 02:43 PM
MVP should have been given to ref, Bill Leavy......

Let's see:

Did Bill Leavy blow the coverage and bite on the trick-play, fake reverse Randle-El to Ward pass that the Steelers have been using all year?
No, the Seachickens did.

Did Bill Leavy overpersue, get out of his rushing lane and get blocked clean into next week on the play that sprung Willie Parker for 70yds?
No, the Seachickens did.

Did Bill Leavy manage the clock like Marv Leavy?
No, the Seachickens did.

Did Bill Leavy drop four key passes after shooting his fat mouth off all week?
No, Jeramy Stevens who plays for the Seachickens did.

Damn True
02-06-2006, 03:05 PM
OK

http://www.camcojb.com/sbXVtd.jpg

Any part of the ball. Any part of the plane of the goal-line. That my friends, is a TD.

zbugger
02-06-2006, 03:23 PM
Any part of the ball. Any part of the plane of the goal-line. That my friends, is a TD.
Damnit True!!! This is between me and Jody!!! I'll get you some day Jody. And your little dog too..... :pushbutto :drama: lol...

Huxsol81
02-06-2006, 03:36 PM
How about the Stones? That was a horrible performance.


I know Im going to get ALOT of flack for this comment, but the Stones SUCK!

1970cuda
02-06-2006, 04:04 PM
remember if it is called a td on the field then the proof must overhelming show that it is not. if it is inconclusive then the call on the field is upheld.
i personal don't think the it was a td and jackson should have never been called for offensive pass interference and this is from someone that wanted the steelers to win

ps the stones did suck conclusively

camcojb
02-06-2006, 04:43 PM
Damnit True!!! This is between me and Jody!!! I'll get you some day Jody. And your little dog too..... :pushbutto :drama: lol...

Now you're threatening my dog! :wow:

Here's a copy/paste of my last response to a Seahawk friend on another board.

" Officiating was not superb. Steelers played bad, but made enough plays to win. The QB who'd led all QB's in the playoffs with a rating of 124 laid an egg and hit a 22 rating. Hasselbeck outplayed Ben no doubt.

Steelers did not play better than the Seahawks in my opinion, other than made a few key plays when they had to. Hasselbeck did enough to win if Stevens would have hung onto the balls. He appeared psyched out as bad as Ben. If you think I felt good about the win you're wrong. I am happy they won obviously, but not the way it played out. The calls did hurt you a lot and were equally the cause along with your player miscues. But most of the calls appeared correct to me. Evenly called is debateable, and they were leaning on you guys a lot. Kinda like being pulled over for speeding when there's a guy ahead of you going even faster; you feel singled out as you weren't breaking the law as much, yet you were breaking the law and he just happened to pick you.

The bottom line is the refs did not help you at all, but you still had opportunities to take the game. So although it will be a controversial game you just needed to make another couple plays and the outcome would have been different.

Your team played better than I thought they would and mine played worse. You definitely earned respect from me. "

Jody

rockdogz
02-06-2006, 07:16 PM
Any part of the ball. Any part of the plane of the goal-line. That my friends, is a TD.

Um, that is NOT a TD. The part of the picture that you must think is the ball with the white blur is Ben's arm... Look up and to the right - THAT'S the ball, which did not cross the line. Blown call. Twice.

camcojb
02-06-2006, 07:20 PM
Um, that is NOT a TD. The part of the picture that you must think is the ball with the white blur is Ben's arm... Look up and to the right - THAT'S the ball, which did not cross the line. Blown call. Twice.

Uh Tom, it is a touchdown. Most of the nation has figured that out by now, even ESPN has been showing it. The white is not the ball, it's his playsheet on his arm. But it's cradled around the ball, which is the brown oval thing that is a few inches across the line. ESPN has been showing another view.

Here's a small video, tough to see. Watch the video and see how he's carrying the ball. Then compare it to the previous picture. You're looking at what may be a players helmet as the ball, the ball is inside the white play sheet on his forearm.

http://www.youtube.com/w/Steelers-TouchDown-%231?v=vqzw3lvmJmk&search=steelers%20seahawks

Jody

Damn True
02-06-2006, 07:25 PM
...and to the "Seachickens played better" group:

Then why is it you only managed to score 10 points?


The Seachickens are a good team. But they got beat. They beat themselves to a degree, but for the most part, despite the fact that they gained more yards they failed to gain more points.

rockdogz
02-06-2006, 07:35 PM
Uh Tom, it is a touchdown.

Nope, I'll never be convinced. I have the game recorded on my computer and played the video several times back and forth. I don't see any conclusive evidence of the ball breaking the plane. I wish I could figure out how to take a screenshot of windows media player... Not that it matters :D

camcojb
02-06-2006, 07:38 PM
Nope, I'll never be convinced. I have the game recorded on my computer and played the video several times back and forth. I don't see any conclusive evidence of the ball breaking the plane. I wish I could figure out how to take a screenshot of windows media player... Not that it matters :D

Watch the video I just added to my last post to see how he's carrying the ball, and then compare it to the pic so you know where the ball is.

Jody

XcYZ
02-06-2006, 07:47 PM
Nope, I'll never be convinced. I have the game recorded on my computer and played the video several times back and forth. I don't see any conclusive evidence of the ball breaking the plane. I wish I could figure out how to take a screenshot of windows media player... Not that it matters :D

Tom, to do a screen capture from windows media player, you need to first turn off hardware acceleration. Here's how, assuming you have a Windows OS.

Right click on your desktop, go to Properties

Select the 'Settings' tab

Click on 'Adanced'

Select the 'Troubleshoot' tab

Move the Hardware acceleration slider from 'full' to 'none'

You can now do a screen capture with a video playing.



You guys are debating water under the bridge, it's time to talk about whether or not Jr. can win the 500. :D

JayR
02-06-2006, 07:54 PM
Let's see:

Did Bill Leavy blow the coverage and bite on the trick-play, fake reverse Randle-El to Ward pass that the Steelers have been using all year?
No, the Seachickens did.

Did Bill Leavy overpersue, get out of his rushing lane and get blocked clean into next week on the play that sprung Willie Parker for 70yds?
No, the Seachickens did.

Did Bill Leavy manage the clock like Marv Leavy?
No, the Seachickens did.

Did Bill Leavy drop four key passes after shooting his fat mouth off all week?
No, Jeramy Stevens who plays for the Seachickens did.

Steelers had great plays but the simple fact is the Seahawks outgained, outpassed, and allowed fewer yards throughtout the entire game. So statistically they were superior to the Steelers.
In fact, they were the only team in Super Bowl history to outgain, outpass, and dominate a team and lose. Why? Because the refs chose to call chicken s**t penalties through the entire game.
And as for shooting off Jeremy Stevens' fat mouth, every sports writer in the country said Joey Porter was a non-factor in this game despite talking from his southern output all week. I don't like the pro sports smack talking so i don't stand behing Jeremy Stevens and his mouth but Porter ran his mouth 10 times more and didn't do a thing all day.
If you read or watched any sports news outside of Pittsburgh today, You would already know this stuff......

Now isn't this a car forum???

camcojb
02-06-2006, 08:04 PM
Steelers had great plays but the simple fact is the Seahawks outgained, outpassed, and allowed fewer yards throughtout the entire game. So statistically they were superior to the Steelers.
In fact, they were the only team in Super Bowl history to outgain, outpass, and dominate a team and lose.

Steelers outgained, outpassed, outran, time of poss by a bunch, more first downs, etc. in Super Bowl 30 and lost.

Jody

rockdogz
02-06-2006, 08:07 PM
Tom, to do a screen capture from windows media player, you need to first turn off hardware acceleration.

Thanks Scott - when I try this my machine is pretty much non-responsive.... the 9GB (!) video file is just failing to even play.

Is it possible that part of the ball being covered by Ben's hand crossed the goal line? Sure. But I don't see any visual evidence of it, and don't know how the refs could.

Wasn't it interesting how the one ref put his hand up to mark the ball down at first, and then signaled touchdown a few seconds later? Like I heard on a radio program today, someone must have whispered to him "Psst!! The Steelers are SUPPOSED to win!!!" :lol:

camcojb
02-06-2006, 08:27 PM
Wasn't it interesting how the one ref put his hand up to mark the ball down at first, and then signaled touchdown a few seconds later? Like I heard on a radio program today, someone must have whispered to him "Psst!! The Steelers are SUPPOSED to win!!!" :lol:

That's the initial theory! :D Now, it appears most the Seahawk fans on their message boards are blaming the drops and Holmgren for poor clock management, and not going for it on 4th with 6 minutes left and two scores down.

Jody

zbugger
02-06-2006, 08:36 PM
I'm just surprised at how much work Jody has put in to try and prove to us crybabies that the Steelers are that good. I gotta give you props. Too bad they won't be back next year though. Sorry.






lol... You know I'm just giving you a hard time, right? I'm never gonna be allowed near you again, am I? I think I'm gonna go shopping for body armor now.

camcojb
02-06-2006, 08:49 PM
I'm just surprised at how much work Jody has put in to try and prove to us crybabies that the Steelers are that good. I gotta give you props. Too bad they won't be back next year though. Sorry.






lol... You know I'm just giving you a hard time, right? I'm never gonna be allowed near you again, am I? I think I'm gonna go shopping for body armor now.

Actually I think the Steelers are a very good team. I also thing that Seattle is good and deserved to be there. I just think there was a lot more happening in the game that caused the loss than just the refs.

This was posted on the first gen board and in my opinion is pretty accurate:

"Seattle had 4 or 5 dropped passes, total clock mismanagement at the end of both halfs, two missed field goals, they were 5 out of 17 on third down conversions, dominated the first half but only put up three points(they could have easily put the game away in the first half) a pick in the red zone, punts going into the endzone for touchbacks instead of pinning pittsburgh deep, punted the ball with about six minutes left and down by two scores, then at the end of the game let the clock run like they had the lead and then everyone wants to blame the refs? Parker burned them on a 75 yard run and they got burned on a trick play for a TD. Thats what lost the game for them. They had the whole game to get it done. They were such a powerhouse that was going to roll the Steelers remember? A few calls shouldnt have made a difference. When the Steelers needed a play they made it Seattle had plenty of chances but couldn't close the deal. "

Allen, you're probably right!:D

rockdogz
02-06-2006, 09:06 PM
I thought the Steelers were great in the post season leading up to the big game. I was surprised that it wasn't a blowout. Seattle's clock management woes were an embarassment - I think Holmgren needed something to argue about and shift the blame elsewhere.

I was disappointed in the commercials... thought they could have been better! Ahh well, there's always next year...

zbugger
02-06-2006, 10:12 PM
Actually I think the Steelers are a very good team. I also thing that Seattle is good and deserved to be there. I just think there was a lot more happening in the game that caused the loss than just the refs......

This is true, actually. I can't believe how the Steelers turned it on at the end of the season. BUT, with a few bogus calls for holding, and the fact that they couldn't do squat on a 3rd and 3, the Seahawks should have won it. But at least they showed that the NFC isn't the same as they have been the last three seasons.

Allen, you're probably right!:D

Umm... This has me afraid. On what part?

Damn True
02-06-2006, 10:56 PM
Steelers had great plays but the simple fact is the Seahawks outgained, outpassed, and allowed fewer yards throughtout the entire game. So statistically they were superior to the Steelers.

You've chosen to ignore the salient statistical metric. Points scored. In that area of measurement the Steelers clearly were the superior team by 101%. The Seachickens did miss two key field goals (6pts right there) that could have given them a chance for an on-side kick.....etc...

"There are three kinds of lies. Regular lies. Damned lies. And statistics." ~ Samuel Clemens.

You can also look to two abysmal punts on the part of the Seachickens. In both cases a directional punt & coverage was kicked in the opposite direction from the coverage. The Seachickens were lucky to have not had one of those run back on them. Both did allow for rather nice field position for the Steelers.

In fact, they were the only team in Super Bowl history to outgain, outpass, and dominate a team and lose. Why? Because the refs chose to call chicken s**t penalties through the entire game.

Wrong. The Ram's out passed and out ran the Pat's in XXXVI and lost, Green Bay out ran and out passed Denver in XXXII and lost, Steelers out passed and outran Dallas in XXX and lost. There are more but searching those box-scores is tedious.

The key thing is that the Steelers outrushed the Seachickens by 50yds and didn't blow it when presented an opportunity to score.

As for the penalties. The only one that was flat out wrong was the Hasselbrokeback "clip" or whatever. Jackson did push off, the other cat was holding. Were they egregious examples of such...probably not, but they were infractions none the less. Bottom line, the Seachickens got caught 7 times for 70yds and the Steelers 3 for 20.


And as for shooting off Jeremy Stevens' fat mouth, every sports writer in the country said Joey Porter was a non-factor in this game despite talking from his southern output all week. I don't like the pro sports smack talking so i don't stand behing Jeremy Stevens and his mouth but Porter ran his mouth 10 times more and didn't do a thing all day.

I dunno about that. The Seachickens ran away from Porter and Polomalu (sp?) all day. Every time they ran he drew a double team. I'd say he was doing his job rather well because his presance made the Seachickens alter their play calling.

If you read or watched any sports news outside of Pittsburgh today, You would already know this stuff......

Given that I live in San Jose, California I would think it rather difficult to get my sports media from anything but sources outside of Pittsburgh. But since we are on the subject.....It seems at least one of the Seachickens players and their coaching staff see things differently than you do:

“I mean, if a team just goes out and overpowers you, then you’re like, ’Hey, we got beat.’ But I think we beat ourselves,” Bernard said.
“I know they’re not OK with it,” the coach said of his players. “I wanted them to keep their heads up. There’s no need to apologize for anything. We lost the football game and we lost it because of the reasons you lose most games ... mistakes.”


Shall we continue, or have you grown tired of the taste of your sour grapes?

trapin
02-07-2006, 12:01 PM
I thought it was a pretty good game. I was rooting for Pittsburgh (naturally) because Jerome's from the D, but also because I felt a sort of connection to him. We played Detroit Mackenzie my senior year. Jerome played both running back and linebacker for them. I was a defensive tackle, I got a few licks on him during the game (the guy was solid as a rock...like trying to tackle a huge frozen Butterball turkey) but he got one "beauty" on me in the 4th quarter; guy practically tore my shoulder off. After the game when both teams were shaking hands I got the chance to joke around with him a bit before heading into the locker room. Super nice guy...and still is from what I hear. I never forgot his name; Jerome Bettis. I followed him during his years at Notre Dame and then with LA and Pittsburgh. He was my only real connection to Pro Football...I lived vacariously through him :lol: . My friends and family have understandably grown tired of my Jerome Bettis story all these years (especially the wife). And now that he's finally retiring, I can't help but feel.....

Old (gulp). :lol:

Also, major props goes out to Motown for a fantastic job. My buddies and I got down there on Friday and the atmosphere was absolutely electric. I think we showed a lot of people that the Detroit you see in the movies is not the real Detroit at all. :thumbsup:

rockdogz
02-07-2006, 02:20 PM
That's a cool story Tony... you actually got to play against Bettis!

I didn't see the show but I thought this was .... funny, considering our discussion on this subject..

Roethlisberger admits: 'I don't think I got in' (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5313884?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5)

camcojb
02-07-2006, 03:05 PM
20 reasons the refs' calls didn't matter...

1. The Refs didn't give up the longest run in SB history...Seattle's defense did.
2. The Refs didn't bite on a 43 yd trick play, Randle to Ward for a TD...Seattle's defense did.
3. The Refs didn't allow Ben to scramble around on a 3rd and 28 and complete a long pass to the 2 yd. line...Seattle's defense did.
4. The Refs didn't miss two field goals, that was Seattle.
5. The Refs didn't fail to step out of bounds late in the 1st half to stop the clock in Pitt territory in a crunch time situation...Seattle's offense did.
6. The Refs didn't let the 1st half clock tick down from 48 seconds all the way down to 13 seconds before finally running their next play at Pitt's 36 yd line...Seattle's offense did.
7. And on this play, 3rd down, 53 yds away from a FG, it wasn't the Refs who tried and failed to go deep for a TD rather than a safer 5-7 yd play and timeout setting up a much easier FG attempt....that, again, would be Seattle's offense.
8. The Refs didn't get confused by Pitt's zone defense and throw an INT...that would be Seattle's QB.
9. The Refs didn't let a little physical contact intimidate them from catching 4 very catchable passes...that would be the Seattle TE Jeremy Stevens.
10. With approx. 20 seconds left in the game, knowing they need a TD and FG, in no particular order, and in easy FG range on 4th down, it wasn't the Refs who ignored the FG and elected to throw up a prayer trying for a TD...that AGAIN would be Seattle.
11. The Refs didn't constantly punt deep into the end zone, repeatedly giving Pitt the ball at the 20 yd line...that of course was Seattle.
12. It wasn't the Refs who received a Christmas gift wrapped easy INT lobbed in perfect position to return deep into Pitt territory...the lucky beneficiary of that break would be Seattle.
13. It wasn't the Refs who got a break when a Steeler DB dropped an easy int early in the game...that too would be a break for Seattle.
14. It wasn't the Refs who caught a break when a Steeler WR dropped a very catchable TD pass...that break again would go to Seattle.
15. It wasn't the scapegoat Refs that received a break when a WR caught the ball, turned, stepped, was hit hard enough to cause a fumble, and then ruled INCOMPLETE...that would be of course, another chance for Seattle.
(this was an interesting call considering that after Troy's famous overruled Int, the NFL stated that it WAS a catch. If so, than this definitely WAS a catch)
16. The Refs werent the ones who caught a break when at the conclusion of a 2nd qtr play, as a Pitt DE was walking away, the Seattle Center blindsided the defenseless player, leveling him to the ground. This mysteriously unseen crime was again another break for Seattle.
17. It wasn't the Refs who got a break when Pitt QB Big Ben was blocked in the back as he pursued the DB who he'd tossed an int to...that again would go to Seattle.
18. It wasn't the Refs who stopped Seattle RB Alexander in a few key situations. That would be the Pittsburgh Steelers.
19. It wasn't the Refs who converted many of their 3rd downs yet stopped their opponent on 3rd down often...that would be the Pittsburgh Steelers.
20. And the very bottom line is this...On plays when there wasn't any penalties...One team made plays and one team didn't. The end result was the final score, 21-10 Seattle was outcoached and outplayed.

Ummgawa
02-07-2006, 03:17 PM
The Stones are coming to Vegas. I checked prices for good seats, are you sitting down, no sit down, 400.00 and up per ticket, WTF.


You guessed it - I passed.

I hear that the Stones Tour is sponsored by Depends, One a Day, Preperation-H and The Ford Crown Victoria.

Damn True
02-07-2006, 05:14 PM
20 reasons the refs' calls didn't matter...

.


Brilliant :hail:

zbugger
02-07-2006, 05:28 PM
20 reasons the refs' calls didn't matter...

1. The Refs didn't give up the longest run in SB history...Seattle's defense did.
2. The Refs didn't bite on a 43 yd trick play, Randle to Ward for a TD...Seattle's defense did.
3. The Refs didn't allow Ben to scramble around on a 3rd and 28 and complete a long pass to the 2 yd. line...Seattle's defense did.
4. The Refs didn't miss two field goals, that was Seattle.
5. The Refs didn't fail to step out of bounds late in the 1st half to stop the clock in Pitt territory in a crunch time situation...Seattle's offense did.
6. The Refs didn't let the 1st half clock tick down from 48 seconds all the way down to 13 seconds before finally running their next play at Pitt's 36 yd line...Seattle's offense did.
7. And on this play, 3rd down, 53 yds away from a FG, it wasn't the Refs who tried and failed to go deep for a TD rather than a safer 5-7 yd play and timeout setting up a much easier FG attempt....that, again, would be Seattle's offense.
8. The Refs didn't get confused by Pitt's zone defense and throw an INT...that would be Seattle's QB.
9. The Refs didn't let a little physical contact intimidate them from catching 4 very catchable passes...that would be the Seattle TE Jeremy Stevens.
10. With approx. 20 seconds left in the game, knowing they need a TD and FG, in no particular order, and in easy FG range on 4th down, it wasn't the Refs who ignored the FG and elected to throw up a prayer trying for a TD...that AGAIN would be Seattle.
11. The Refs didn't constantly punt deep into the end zone, repeatedly giving Pitt the ball at the 20 yd line...that of course was Seattle.
12. It wasn't the Refs who received a Christmas gift wrapped easy INT lobbed in perfect position to return deep into Pitt territory...the lucky beneficiary of that break would be Seattle.
13. It wasn't the Refs who got a break when a Steeler DB dropped an easy int early in the game...that too would be a break for Seattle.
14. It wasn't the Refs who caught a break when a Steeler WR dropped a very catchable TD pass...that break again would go to Seattle.
15. It wasn't the scapegoat Refs that received a break when a WR caught the ball, turned, stepped, was hit hard enough to cause a fumble, and then ruled INCOMPLETE...that would be of course, another chance for Seattle.
(this was an interesting call considering that after Troy's famous overruled Int, the NFL stated that it WAS a catch. If so, than this definitely WAS a catch)
16. The Refs werent the ones who caught a break when at the conclusion of a 2nd qtr play, as a Pitt DE was walking away, the Seattle Center blindsided the defenseless player, leveling him to the ground. This mysteriously unseen crime was again another break for Seattle.
17. It wasn't the Refs who got a break when Pitt QB Big Ben was blocked in the back as he pursued the DB who he'd tossed an int to...that again would go to Seattle.
18. It wasn't the Refs who stopped Seattle RB Alexander in a few key situations. That would be the Pittsburgh Steelers.
19. It wasn't the Refs who converted many of their 3rd downs yet stopped their opponent on 3rd down often...that would be the Pittsburgh Steelers.
20. And the very bottom line is this...On plays when there wasn't any penalties...One team made plays and one team didn't. The end result was the final score, 21-10 Seattle was outcoached and outplayed.
Where did you learn to cut and paste? I KNOW you didn't think that one up yourself..... :P