Satin black

[geberhard]

Not sure if this has been covered, but wanted to verify what is everyone here using for satin black paint, both chassis, engine bay, inner fenders, and even body :D

I have heard good and bad things about the SEM paint.

I am building a third project and the plan is to throw a simple paint job until I decide the ultimate direction of the build. DO NO hate the satin black :D

Also pics of other pro touring cars in Satin black around here?

I dig the work on this fighter Camaro:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/2798173979_0646f3d8ea.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3145/2799036070_c5b1b02448_o.jpg

[MoonMan]

Used SEM Hot Rod Black. Here is a shot of the firewall.

http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz277/timothymoon/CamaREM/IMG_00072.jpg

[Cread01]

x2 on the hot rod black.


It has just the right sheen to it.

[elitecustombody]

For temporary paint job or suspension,inner fenders Hot ROD black will work just fine,

[Ron Fox]

For temporary paint job or suspension,inner fenders Hot ROD black will work just fine,

Is Hot Rod Black a primer or paint?

[Musclerodz]

Sherman Williams Polane Carbide Black. I have looked for a replacement, but nothing beats it.

[elitecustombody]

Is Hot Rod Black a primer or paint?

Ron, it's catalized single stage urethane enamel.Just about every paint brand has their own version.

[kennyd]

we use standard base coat black , then we clear it with standard clear coat . then we re-clear it with standox matt clear . the reason we never use hotrod black it it stains and streaks up when you wash it and grease will stain it .

ps , and the standox matt clear , you can change the " sheen " by adjusting the hardner 3to1 vs 4to1

[Ron Fox]

Ron, it's catalized single stage urethane enamel.Just about every paint brand has their own version.

Is the Hot Rod Black considered a flat black?

I have seen some nice engine bays in here in flat black but wondering if it was something other than flat black.

[elitecustombody]

Is the Hot Rod Black considered a flat black?

I have seen some nice engine bays in here in flat black but wondering if it was something other than flat black.

It's more of a satin finish, like the 69 pics posted above

[geberhard]

Thanks guys,

The goal is more of a satin black similar to the Camaro on the first post. I am trying to find a good balance that will work on the exterior as well. The main concerns are chalking and grease stains (i.e. hand prints).

I used Kustom shop's hot rod black on a few rigs and on the buggy and they worked welll, but it was not an impressive paint, just cheap paint that I would re-shoot after rockcrawling and beating on the body. Easy rattle can or gun fix after a wash :D

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/wwheelers/Fordyce1109/IMGP0298.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/wwheelers/Fordyce1109/IMGP0307.jpg

I like the idea of a matte finish over the smooth black. Alternatively can you shoot clear smooth over black and what woudl be the outcome (glossy)?

[Musclerodz]

the sherman williams polane will not chalk or leave prints. has about the same sheen as edp

[mrr1999]

The SEM Hot Rod Black has been the best to use in my experience. Lays out pretty easy and has a nice satin finish. Test it out on some scrap metal to see how many coats you want to go with. There is a pretty big difference between 2 and 3 coats concerning satin finish. 3 coats give it more of a satin sheen.

It's a pretty good product.

A friend attempted the Hot Rod Flatz and it was really tough to spray because it was very thin and ran pretty easily. Just my experience, though.

Good luck with whatever your choice! Great color choice.

[GPR]

New from SPI

Epoxy with uv protection.

As some of you know from the other threads, I have been playing with the UV protection with our epoxy, even though our epoxy (black) has showed us around 5 years life when exposed to the sun where most epoxies die inside of 3 - 6 months, we are making it better!

The black and black only at this point that we made this week has extra UV protection, we still have around 100 gallons of the old batch but that should be gone by middle of next week and we will ship the new. (Quarts will not have for about two months)

I used 1/2 the amount of UV I wanted to but as we go along I will increase, at this point it should last as long as any mid grade SS paint.

You will notice no difference in spraying or drying or handling the epoxy with this addition as I have tested and retested but reason I cut it in half is just to make sure the epoxy is still bullet proof.

I have no plans to add it to the other colors as they are never exposed as an topside paint but our black epoxy has been used as hood strips on cudas and rat rods so the protection was warranted.

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[DOOM]

The SEM Hot Rod Black has been the best to use in my experience. Lays out pretty easy and has a nice satin finish. Test it out on some scrap metal to see how many coats you want to go with. There is a pretty big difference between 2 and 3 coats concerning satin finish. 3 coats give it more of a satin sheen.

It's a pretty good product.

A friend attempted the Hot Rod Flatz and it was really tough to spray because it was very thin and ran pretty easily. Just my experience, though.

Good luck with whatever your choice! Great color choice.
Great product!!!!Listen to the man..:yes:
New from SPI

Epoxy with uv protection.

As some of you know from the other threads, I have been playing with the UV protection with our epoxy, even though our epoxy (black) has showed us around 5 years life when exposed to the sun where most epoxies die inside of 3 - 6 months, we are making it better!

The black and black only at this point that we made this week has extra UV protection, we still have around 100 gallons of the old batch but that should be gone by middle of next week and we will ship the new. (Quarts will not have for about two months)

I used 1/2 the amount of UV I wanted to but as we go along I will increase, at this point it should last as long as any mid grade SS paint.

You will notice no difference in spraying or drying or handling the epoxy with this addition as I have tested and retested but reason I cut it in half is just to make sure the epoxy is still bullet proof.

I have no plans to add it to the other colors as they are never exposed as an topside paint but our black epoxy has been used as hood strips on cudas and rat rods so the protection was warranted.

[email protected]
404-307-9740 Tech Line (7 days)
706-781-2220 Office

I just started using SPI clear(2020) its a great product.Hands down the best clear I have ever used for my shop!! I just got a sample setup of the epoxy I'll have to try it...Barry are you a rep for SPI?

[The WidowMaker]

Barry are you a rep for SPI?

barry is the owner of SPI. you can call him up any time of the day and talk with him.

[Travis77]

Musclerodz, is there anyway you can post a pic? I plan to use as much sherwin williams line as possible.

[kttrucks]

You've got plenty of options with semi-gloss black. PPG has their fixed-n-flat 2060 clear that's pre mixed if you wnat to go with base/clear, Finch used it on his Camaro as well as the 'Vette convertible that he floggs.... and every manufacturer has a version of semi-gloss. SUMMIT Racing has their hot rod black and i've used it a bunch. It's single stage urethane and has a great and EVEN (which is the hard part on large surfaces) sheen to it and lays down flat. Like any painting project, the secret to success is prep and air supply mixed with solid technique.

Definitly go with a catalyzed system, however you go. rattle cans and primer wont hold up.

KT.

[TNH]

How difficult is it to keep satin black clean?
Is it worse than a gloss black car?

[elitecustombody]

How difficult is it to keep satin black clean?
Is it worse than a gloss black car?

Almost as bad. I recommend using Top Coat by Ducora.com. It helps keeping dust,dirt,grease,waterspots and fingerprints off. I use it on everything.

[TNH]

Almost as bad. I recommend using Top Coat by Ducora.com. It helps keeping dust,dirt,grease,waterspots and fingerprints off. I use it on everything.

Thanks for the info.
BTW, do you post on supraforums?

[elitecustombody]

Thanks for the info.
BTW, do you post on supraforums?


Yes,sir,I do. My screen name on SF is exvelocity

[79 Camaro]

67 Nova with SEM satin black. Basic scuff and spray. No great pains to straighten anthing. Someday it will come apart for a proper paint job.