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Fluid Power
02-14-2011, 12:53 PM
Dale Jr wins the pole for the 500 on the 10 yr anniversary of his old mans death? One win since 2006 and only 3 poles since 2006? Seems like a media thing to me.

Darren

Moose
02-14-2011, 02:25 PM
Ive wondered about certain story lines myself. Does remind me of wrestling.

You have the busch brothers as the bad guys, tony stewart as a bad guy..

All of Hendricks cars as good guys. The Champ for 5 years in a row..

makes you wonder lol:D

JKnight
02-14-2011, 03:37 PM
It is awfully convenient isn't it? Kinda like when he won the race driving the Wrangler painted car patterned off his old man's car after not having any success in god knows how long.

That said, most will admit that Daytona has always been a track where Jr. performs well, even when it isn't a 10th anniversary.

Shmoov69
02-14-2011, 05:42 PM
Yes I would agree. But the JR thing could be legit since he usually does run well there and talledega
You would think that they could make him win tho, I mean he is the most popular driver out there!

ChrisRZ28
02-15-2011, 10:06 PM
Dale Jr wins the pole for the 500 on the 10 yr anniversary of his old mans death? One win since 2006 and only 3 poles since 2006? Seems like a media thing to me.

Darren

This. He hasn't done much of anything in how long? If his last name wasn't Earnhardt he'd be back in the truck series or back on some short track somewhere. Nascar teams go through drivers like a baby goes through diapers, at least the lesser named/talented drivers. He's also a merchandisers wet dream. There's lots of money to be made off his name. IMO, if he wins this Sunday, ASSuming he isn't in a wreck, it's fixed. Nascars ticket sells are down, their TV ratings are down (so I've read), so what better way to boost viewership then have Nascars goldenboy win on the 10th anniversary of his old mans death? How would Nascar fix the race? Jr gets the slightly bigger restrictor plate...(tin foil hat off)...:lol:

Fluid Power
02-16-2011, 05:59 AM
This. He hasn't done much of anything in how long? If his last name wasn't Earnhardt he'd be back in the truck series or back on some short track somewhere. Nascar teams go through drivers like a baby goes through diapers, at least the lesser named/talented drivers. He's also a merchandisers wet dream. There's lots of money to be made off his name. IMO, if he wins this Sunday, ASSuming he isn't in a wreck, it's fixed. Nascars ticket sells are down, their TV ratings are down (so I've read), so what better way to boost viewership then have Nascars goldenboy win on the 10th anniversary of his old mans death? How would Nascar fix the race? Jr gets the slightly bigger restrictor plate...(tin foil hat off)...:lol:

I know it is impossible to "fix" a race, (a predetermined winner that is) but it is possible to have someone qualify a little faster with a bigger plate. He might have the advantage with a bigger plate during the race as well. They try and manipulate the outcome with "debris" cautions etc. We will see.

Darren

GregWeld
02-16-2011, 07:47 AM
Maybe.... since this is a big FRAT HOUSE where everybody knows everybody or has worked for the other team.... the teams got together in a way that we all know can happen -- and decided to just back off a bit if they were running faster than DEjr... to LET him have the pole? It would be a nice gesture and an honoring of a great champion. Doesn't have to be a "conspiracy" -- just a nice headline and honor granted to a racing dynasty.

PS -- I've never watched a NASCAR event... don't plan to - not my thing... but I know that we all helped each other out when it counted back in my AA/FC days.

PTAddict
02-16-2011, 08:54 AM
These Dale Jr. conspiracy theories have been popular for a long time, although they're not as prominent these days since Jr. hasn't exactly appeared to benefit from any special favors the last few seasons. But I don't buy it, either in this specific case or in general.

Jr. has always been good at plate tracks - he qualified second last year. He had a late spot in qualifying this year, which means all of those previous guys would have had to guess how fast Jr. would run and then run just an infinitesimal bit slower. Guys trying to make a name for themselves like Trevor Bayne and Paul Menard would have had to willingly give up their shot at a little bit of publicity.

Beyond that, there's just too much money and ego and competitive drive for sentimentality like this to just fly below the radar. You think Jack Roush would willingly let a Hendrick car beat him for the pole? You think the Busch brothers, Hamlin, Biffle, Happy Harvick wouldn't speak their minds if they had even an inkling of such a thing?

And as for NASCAR themselves, the very last thing they need in a time of sinking ratings is to risk a huge scandal over deliberate competitive favoritism. They're not going to gamble their multi-billion dollar brand on a group of probably underpaid tech inspectors going along with cheating and permanently keeping their mouths shut. And anyway, if they really wanted to do something to boost ratings, they'd fill Jimmy Johnson's frame rails with lead :)

As for the race itself, I could see Jeff Gordon maybe trying to help Jr. lead lap 3, but that's about all the favors he might get. I'm sure if you asked the other 42 drivers who they'd want to win besides themselves, Jr. would be a popular choice, but they'd all 100 times rather it be them.

Vegas69
02-16-2011, 09:02 AM
Funny Greg, I had you pegged for a huge Nascar fan.

Motivation is a big factor in life. Couldn't be that....:unibrow:

XcYZ
02-16-2011, 09:36 AM
Have you ever heard Danica Patrick on the radio while she's "racing"? I can't even begin to describe it...

Fluid Power
02-16-2011, 04:10 PM
Have you ever heard Danica Patrick on the radio while she's "racing"? I can't even begin to describe it...

My favorite... STUPID Idiot!

zcrz
02-16-2011, 04:17 PM
Now "they" made him wreck his car too! Damn Nascar! It does suck lately, but I doubt you could talk 42 other drivers to back off, or race for second place. Im with ya on the mystery cautions though.f

Steve68
02-16-2011, 05:19 PM
The correct title for this thread should be,


"Has NASCAR jumped the shark?"


Yes it has!

SDMAN
02-16-2011, 05:29 PM
NASCAR.....pronounced MASS BORE.

YAWN.

Fluid Power
02-17-2011, 06:06 AM
For the record, I do not watch it. I just was watching Sports Center and they mentioned the 'significance' of Jr. winning the pole on the 10th anniversary of Sr's death.

Again, I realize you cannot predetermine a winner of the race, but NASCAR can certainly manipulate things.

Darren

Ron in SoCal
02-17-2011, 07:01 AM
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NASCAR.....pronounced MASS BORE.

YAWN.