Ironworks 64-67 Chevelle Chassis build thread for Ironworks Chevelle test car.

[ironworks]

Well Guys I had the idea to show you how we are going about building the first 2 prototypes 64-67 chevelle chassis of our chassis. We build one chassis out to solve all the major design issues, ride height, stance, floor interference issues, etc. Then we took what we learned and worked on the design on what we call the B model. This means the new and improved version. So today we started to assemble this chassis with the laser cut and formed parts. What is different about this frame from the Tri-5 chassis is the amount of press broke parts we had the laser cutter form to our drawing. We had a few issues in getting the parts to fit quite how we would like, but after working with them to explain what exactly we are trying to do and how precision we want and need these parts. We have been able to take a lot of welding out of the frame with this design, which welding is labor and labor is money, plus make it stronger and have less heat distortion to deal with.

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So follow along as we will attempt to walk you through how this frame is built.
We start out with flat plate that had tabs and slots to index and loate each part. Each and every one of these parts was painstakingly design and engineered in Solidworks. The bends that are in the parts are laid out in the Solidworks drawings and laser cutter forms them to our spec most of the time. :D
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Then once all the parts are indexed and located off the first plate you end up with the right front frame horn you see here.
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[ironworks]

In this picture you can see the main side rails of the chassis. You can also the mass amount of laser cut parts that are needed to build just the front frame horns and the middle section of the chassis.

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[coolwelder62]

Very cool Rodger.I have a buddy wanting a chassis for 1964 GTO.I will call you to discuss this.Scott

[ironworks]

Thanks Scott, But let me post some really impressive stuff up first. We have 1.5 front frame horns and 2 side rails. I hope to have all these parts assembled in the am and be waiting on the next set of parts from the laser cutter. But I also have another customer who has 2 GTO's in the family, maybe he will be impressed. :D :D

[ironworks]

Here are some more PDF drawings of the chassis before we cut this one out.

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We have since gotten rid of the dimple dies.

[ProTouring442]

Nice! Could you do one of these set up for an IRS as well?

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[ironworks]

Nice! Could you do one of these set up for an IRS as well?

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

Our plan was to offer 2 different versions, one with C6 rear suspension and a transaxle. And do another version that uses like a Speedway quick change or maybe ford 9" center set up for half shaft axles in the rear with with the C6 suspension with the trans in the standard position.

Let me know. Thanks Guys

[ironworks]

Well here are some more pics of how that front rails go together.

The internal bulkhead plates lock in and are stitched in place. Then the side plates are lock in place begin to square up the assembly.
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The outside rail plate is set in position and stitched to the bulkhead plates.
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At the end you end up with this
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[ironworks]

Now the internal subrails go together like this. They are each a formed half.

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They interlock like this.
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Once they are tacked together you can see how the fit together and how the adjustable transmission crossmember will is located into the rails.

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[1965_SS]

Subscribing:thumbsup:

[Teetoe_Jones]

That is Sofa King cool.

[War]

I like how you 45 the frame to clear the floor. Some I have seen hang way below the rockers. Very Nice.

I don't know what sofa king cool is, but if a guy with blue hair say's it is then I guess it is.

[greycamaro]

I see alot of hours in this

[ironworks]

I like how you 45 the frame to clear the floor. Some I have seen hang way below the rockers. Very Nice.

I don't know what sofa king cool is, but if a guy with blue hair say's it is then I guess it is.


Jason - say this 2 times fast and you will get the joke. Ready

Rodger is Sofa King Cool. Rodger is Sofa King Cool.



Get it?.... I knew you would

[War]

Id rather read the chinese.. F*******g. I'm slow at this internet thing.

[lhkustoms]

Id rather read the chinese.. F*******g. I'm slow at this internet thing.

Oh come on Jason you'll get better at it........ :lol:

Rodger...This chassis is looking awesome. :thumbsup:

[coolwelder62]

Wow!! Rodger This is an awesome idea.Will you be working on a 68-72 unit any time soon.:thumbsup:

[ironworks]

Wow!! Rodger This is an awesome idea.Will you be working on a 68-72 unit any time soon.:thumbsup:

That's the plan. The chassis's are very similar. Not the same but similar and Eric tells me the way he designed the chassis this time he can change the assembly measurements and whammo it will modify all the parts together to fit the othe chassis. We have done some work on a customers 70's that has a super nice car and needs the body back off real soon, So there we go. Kenny Davis said he was going to go for street machine of the year with a chevelle and wanted to use our chassis. :D

Most of the last statement is true, but not all.

Rodger

[70 chevelle]

Every once in a while you see a really great idea that changes the way alot of people do things. Congratulations I think this is one of those times. Awsome idea.

[tones2SS]

Looks great Rodger. Nice stuff coming out of that Ironworks shop.:thumbsup:

[ironworks]

Well at the end of day 2 this is what we have for prototype #2. I'm still waiting on some rear frame parts so we can assemble the rear and see about the getting it into one piece. We also need to cut one of our latest front crossmembers to go in the chassis. Then time for test and fit up under a 65 Chevelle we have lined up. I will explain some of the details soon but enjoy these for now.


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I'm really happy with the outcome so far and pretty excited about advancement we have made in our knowledge and skill to be further used on upcoming models.

[SWAPMEETCRAZY]

Your work never ceases to amaze us!! I'm working to get enough $'s to buy 1!!! :yes: :yes:

[ProTouring442]

Your work never ceases to amaze us!! I'm working to get enough $'s to buy 1!!! :yes: :yes:

Maybe if I sell my wife...

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[214Chevy]

I hate to bring up old stuff, but I remember when you brought up the thought of doing these chassis's. Everyone, well not everyone, but alot of guys were fussing about how you cannot build a chassis with out a jig. The were yapping about "squaring up this" and "not without a jig table that!!" Now your chassis's are the talk of the site. I commend you on such an exceptional product. I followed your 57 frame build and loved it the whole way. These frames are ahead of their time. I have no idea of how to build a chassis with a jig or without one, but again I give props were props are do. You have a beautiful lineup of frames. :hail: :hail:

[Teetoe_Jones]

That trans X member/exhaust cutout is really well done. I'm pretty impressed.

Tyler

[coolwelder62]

Rodger.:thumbsup: Scott

[ironworks]

Well guys we were slowed up with a huge order at the laser cutter when their machine went down for a few days. Well we got most of the parts last week and put in some extra time on Saturday to get it a little further. Scottsdale is coming up quickly. The rear rails and crossmembers are coming along nicely.

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This is the front frame section. Does this look strong enough....
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[coolwelder62]

Very nice work.Look's to be Engineered well.:thumbsup: Scott

[brian mc]

I like the adjustable trans crossmember and the slick exhaust cutouts...

[bentfab]

Nice peace. I like. :thumbsup:

[ChevelleNV]

So are you gonna be selling these as weld together kits, for the guy who wants to do all the welding himself and save some money?

[ironworks]

So are you gonna be selling these as weld together kits, for the guy who wants to do all the welding himself and save some money?

Once I'm convince they can be put together buy "any do it yourself'er". I have some people testing the Tri-5 version currently. These are just the first production models of the Chevelle unit.

[ChevelleNV]

Once I'm convince they can be put together buy "any do it yourself'er". I have some people testing the Tri-5 version currently. These are just the first production models of the Chevelle unit.

Ill tell ya what, send me one for a 72 Chevelle and Ill put it together and test it out for ya....

[brandon8350]

This looks great .Like a big puzzle

[rwhite692]

Rodger that looks great, I think the market is going to respond really well to it.

[ErikLS2]

What are some of the advantages of all the individual laser cut pieces welded together vs. the more traditional bent rectangular tubing style?

Very impressive by the way, as is all of the stuff from you guys.

[ironworks]

What are some of the advantages of all the individual laser cut pieces welded together vs. the more traditional bent rectangular tubing style?

Very impressive by the way, as is all of the stuff from you guys.

The advantage is you are able to build a frame rail or part to fit up to a given not flat or formed piece very tightly. It allows you to build a chassis like the original stamped unit on a much cheaper scale then have parts stamped or hydroformed. Sure a chassis like this costs more and there are chassis out there being manufactured that are out of a nominally available rectangular or square tube that work but they then have to hang further below the chassis or have a shorter beam height thus reducing the strength of the frame. We reduced the beam height to improve ground clearance further and keep the same strength or be stronger that a thicker frame just through design. We set out to build the strongest most well engineered chassis and then after we had a product we though was good enough figure out how much to price it at. I'm not concern if other frames are cheaper. Alot of frames in the marketplace are. But make our do things the others cannot because they are built out of a piece of rectangular tubing. Our frames are stronger and sit lower with more ground clearance then any chassis on the market.

Hopefully this babble session answered your question. If not let me know

[nic]

Love the chassis :thumbsup:
Makes me want to build a Chevelle next or maybe a GTO......

[Bryce]

That chassis is bad@$$. I am a design/test engineer by trade. Everything I do is tabbed and slotted it makes it almost self jigging. Great work.

What do you use for stress analysis?

[ironworks]

That chassis is bad@$$. I am a design/test engineer by trade. Everything I do is tabbed and slotted it makes it almost self jigging. Great work.

What do you use for stress analysis?

Eric is having one of His rocket scientists work on that for. So the same guys that approve parts for the moon and fighter planes at PDT, will approve this frame for street and track duty. More on that to come very soon.

[coolwelder62]

Rodger also has a (ROCKET & JET ENGINE) options for his chassis.I think we will see Tyler B. Running some of these at 2011 Optima shoot out.:lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl:

[Bryce]

Eric is having one of His rocket scientists work on that for. So the same guys that approve parts for the moon and fighter planes at PDT, will approve this frame for street and track duty. More on that to come very soon.

Awesome!

[ironworks]

Awesome!

We will be posting the results when the analysis is complete. Eric said he has to design the chassis as one single parts, not an assembly to be able to analysis the chassis. The one single part will take quite a bit of work just to create that design. I will keep you posted

[ironworks]

Some more pictures of the chassis before we begin TIG welding this chassis.
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The Welding will begin this week. We will probably weigh the chassis bare also. I'm sure it's heavier then stock but that is probably a good thing.

[Bryce]

We will be posting the results when the analysis is complete. Eric said he has to design the chassis as one single parts, not an assembly to be able to analysis the chassis. The one single part will take quite a bit of work just to create that design. I will keep you posted

I use CATIA. If you use Boolean operations its actually pretty easy to make it one part. If you have complete product, looks like you do, and all pieces are contacting eachother; just put each part in a seperate part body under one part and use the add (boolean operations). It will combine the parts into one solid eliminating any over lap and combine parts at each point they have contact.

[T_Raven]

That frame is sweet. I'd hate to be the poor sucker welding it together though lol. I need to get rich so I can stick on under my Tempest

[tones2SS]

Awesome work Rodger and crew.

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Just wondering why the side rails have a angle on the top portion of the frame when other frames don't.Will it make the frame fit different to the car. I'm not even being a smart a$$ with that question :D

[ProTouring442]

Just wondering why the side rails have a angle on the top portion of the frame when other frames don't.Will it make the frame fit different to the car. I'm not even being a smart a$$ with that question :D

It's because it's the same width as a factory frame for these cars, and the floor boards drop down between the frame necessitating the angle. The factory convertible frames (boxed) have that angle too.

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[ironworks]

Just wondering why the side rails have a angle on the top portion of the frame when other frames don't.Will it make the frame fit different to the car. I'm not even being a smart a$$ with that question :D

Bill is correct it will fit the body better, which in this case allows the rails to not hang below the chassis as much. But with the way these rails are assembled it makes them stronger then just a piece formed to that shape. Because the body mounts have been boxed from top to bottom thus creating a whole triangulated structure. Then with the round tubes running completely through the rails and into the inner frame section it ties those pieces together using the whole mass of each rail not just the inside surface. The draw back to this design is the mount of welding, but since we have taken advantage of some trick press braking techniques it will cut down the weld time considerably.

Alot more to come in the near future.

[ProTouring442]

Now if I could just win the lottery or have someone leave me a nice pile of money so I can buy one of these frames! :lol:

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[War]

That frame looks bad azz just sitting on the table, I don't think you even need a car on top of it.:thumbsup:

[ironworks]

Here ya go. I pretty happy with this one.

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[HWY Nova]

NICE!


--Eric

[ccracin]

NICE!


--Eric

It's ok. If that's what you're in to! :unibrow:

[HWY Nova]

It's ok. If that's what you're in to! :unibrow:

Easy, Hornet.

Shouldn't you be doing something?



--Eric

[ChevelleNV]

That is a sick chassis, maybe when I do my next Chevelle ill have to look into getting one of these..

[GregWeld]

It's ok. If that's what you're in to! :unibrow:

Every time I read this it cracks me up!


Nice chassis Rodger!

[coolwelder62]

Very,Very nice.:thumbsup: Awesome fab skills at your place of business.:hail: Scott

[1360]

Wow! jealous....:cheers:

[tones2SS]

Awesome stuff Rodger.:thumbsup:

[bdahlg68]

This is awesome stuff. I want to build a GTO some day and this will be on the mod list.

[Bryce]

Awesome!

[Vince@Meanstreets]

wow, tyler is right, that is sofa king bad axe.

Price check on bare chassis, welded front with un-weld kit rear frame rails please?

[ironworks]

wow, tyler is right, that is sofa king bad axe.

Price check on bare chassis, welded front with un-weld kit rear frame rails please?

I can't sell that chassis half welded. If it's welded it has to be done all at one time to control heat and warpage.

[mfain]

I looked at the chassis at the Scottsdale Goodguys last weekend -- it is truly a work of art!

Pappy

[dhutton]

I can't sell that chassis half welded. If it's welded it has to be done all at one time to control heat and warpage.

How many hours does it take a professional welder to weld one of these up?

Don

[ironworks]

How many hours does it take a professional welder to weld one of these up?

Don

This first one was about 115 hours for welding and sanding. We did a bunch of work to get the hour cut down even before we cut a single piece on the laser. I have been charging 100 hours for welding and sanding these frames up to now for the frames we have sold. These Chevelle frames have alot of interlocking parts and formed pieces that really cut down on what it could be, if it was all flat plate. Obviously the chevelle chassis is much more complex then the Tri-5 unit. These first 2 frames are all ready sold. We are currently changing the design on some small parts and getting ready to build 5 more.


Thanks for the compliments guys. I'm really happy with the results, wait till you see the ride height.:D

[1965_SS]

Awesome frame:thumbsup: PLEASE post pics with a 65' body on it :D

[ironworks]

No problem. I was just emailing the pics to the customer.

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[mild2wild]

That is killer!!!!

[1965_SS]

:wow: That is awesome!!!

Couple of questions.

What do you have to do as far as the trunk metal is concerned? Stock, mini tubs, or more?

Do you have to use a custom gas tank or can you use stock?

Does the frame hang down lower than stock, seems like it does in the pictures? Why is that? Just wondering.

What shows are you going to be at here in CA?

Thanks and keep posting pics:thumbsup:
We all like close up detail pics of how everything fits.

[ironworks]

I'm trying to get a stock replacement fuel tank from Rick's Hot rods in place as we speak. We are triming the floor mods that have to happen to clear the Trans and driveshaft due to the low stance.

There will be a frame at The Pleasanton show next weekend and one at Del Mar the following weekend. Then Again in Pleasanton in August. You location in the top right says Central Valley, so You welcome to come by anytime just let me know when.

This wagon is more like an Elcamino chassis wise then a standard Chevelle. So some things are different. I will be taking some pics from underneath when I can get it on the lift. We need to build headers and exhaust for this 572 big block. We have started to build the chassis for a standard 67 Chevelle with an LS for another customer.

[tones2SS]

That is killer!!!!

^^What he said.:thumbsup:

[Darrell]

WOW,NICE,:yes: :yes: :yes:

[RECOVERY ROOM]

That sits very nice, Nothing hanging down to

[64pontiac]

As always, amazing! That is a killer stance if that is just on coilovers!

[ironworks]

Yes this car is on coilovers with 4.5" of ground clearance. We are working on changing just a few small things to the design before we cut out the next round of frames. We are getting ready to get a frame under the standard chevelles here in the next few weeks.

I also bought a the most solid rust free car I may have ever seen that happens to be a 69 Chevelle to get rolling on the 2nd gen chassis stuff. We also have a few things that we are working on to raise the bar even further in the Chevelle market.

[64pontiac]

Raise the bar FURTHER? When is enough enough!!!!! Joking aside, stellar work. Hopefully you can grow the chassis sales into other models and makes, you guys have a very unique frame style.

[ironworks]

Raise the bar FURTHER? When is enough enough!!!!! Joking aside, stellar work. Hopefully you can grow the chassis sales into other models and makes, you guys have a very unique frame style.

That is the plan. We figure everyone like frame strength, low ride height with usable ground clearance and the ability to have amazing results with a laid out process to get those results. We are doing extensive engineering and design work to create the most strength in the smallest area. Take our frame rails they are not the easiest to build, but there is no question the strength built into those parts and still keep the frame tucked as tightly to the body as possible. One of the design changes I spoke of was and idea Kenny Davis sparked that may make the rail even stronger and not hang below the rocker at all........It will be even more difficult to build, but I think the trade off is worth it.

[Werks]

Any chance of a C3 corvette frame in the future?

[ironworks]

Any chance of a C3 corvette frame in the future?

Just need one person who wants to buy one and a car to build from that is solid.

[sixty5hellvell]

That frame is a well built piece wish I wouldnt of gone and done this to mine. What does one of those set you back without all the suspension attatched?

[ironworks]

That frame is a well built piece wish I wouldnt of gone and done this to mine. What does one of those set you back without all the suspension attatched?

The rolling chassis price is 21k. That's complete front suspension with the flaming river billet rack and Ridetech coilovers. Complete rear suspension, with fab9 axle housing with 31 spline axles and rear coilovers. We don't offer a huge option list because there is no reason to upgrade beyond single or non adjustable shocks or maybe a guy whats a rear sway bar. We sell a good product from the get go.

Selling just the bare chassis does not make much sense since the only thing OEM is the C6 upper control arm, and we are thinking of changing that. The rear suspension is all custom made stuff and the lower control arm in the front is custom to be able to lower the rack to clear the engine position needed in a Chevelle.

[sixty5hellvell]

Thanks for getting back to me. Thats more than I will have into my finished ride. A man can always dream. You do awesome work, wish I could afford it.:bow: