Sneek Peak Ironworks 64-72 chevelle chassis

[ironworks]

Well Guys we are getting ready to cut the first 2 production chassis's this week. Prototyping is over with. I'm working out parts list and pricing as we speak. We have these first two spoken for. Initial pricing is looking to be just over 20K. We had to design some tube control arms to be able to get the rack low enough to clear the engine dampener. The ride height on this chassis is pretty aggressive at about 4.5" to the bottom of the frame and the frame barely hangs below the rocker.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chevelle%20wagon/64-67chevellechassisJPEG.jpg

[214Chevy]

Beautiful, just plain beautiful. :wow: More pics please..........:cheering:

[bdahlg68]

Well Guys we are getting ready to cut the first 2 production chassis's this week. Prototyping is over with. I'm working out parts list and pricing as we speak. We have these first two spoken for. Initial pricing is looking to be just over 20K. We had to design some tube control arms to be able to get the rack low enough to clear the engine dampener. The ride height on this chassis is pretty aggressive at about 4.5" to the bottom of the frame and the frame barely hangs below the rocker.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chevelle%20wagon/64-67chevellechassisJPEG.jpg

will this work for 66/67 GTO as well? (maybe my next project)

[ironworks]

will this work for 66/67 GTO as well? (maybe my next project)

As far as I know it should. Only the Wagons and Elcamino's are different.

[okyankee]

is it a roller for 20k, if not, what else is needed to be a roller?

[ironworks]

is it a roller for 20k, if not, what else is needed to be a roller?

wheels

[War]

wheels

Pretty short snooty one word answer there.

Does it include welding?
Mig?
Tig?
Will it be welded In a "jig" or saw horses?
Any "Real World Testing" done?
Are people in Bakersfield capable of this level of work or will it be outsourced to China?

JK:thumbsup:

[ironworks]

Pretty short snooty one word answer there.

Does it include welding?
Mig?
Tig?
Will it be welded In a "jig" or saw horses?
Any "Real World Testing" done?
Are people in Bakersfield capable of this level of work or will it be outsourced to China?

JK:thumbsup:

I'm sorry there are not more things needed. Maybe if you order one I could short you a few parts so the list would be longer.

It's better then what they find in Oakdale. Oakdale has much better panties though.

It will be fully welded yes. And we use real horses not wooden saw horses.

Obviously the MAN known around this world by 3 letters, is getting a big head or tired of counting panties.

[okyankee]

wheels

great answer.:cheers:

[Musclerodz]

wheels
what if someone wants to stop?

[coolwelder62]

Rodger as alway's,awesome.:thumbsup: Scott

[GregWeld]

Nice buddy! Very nice.

:thumbsup: :woot:

[skatinjay27]

what if someone wants to stop?
in the spirit

VANS
NIKE
DC
PUMA
ETC...

[ironworks]

Thank's guys, I'm looking forward to cutting out these two chassis's this week. We have done some pretty trick stuff to this chassis to make it stronger and require less welding to assemble. Eric has really stepped up his skills with what we have come up with on this. I bet we have exchanged a thousand - emails and late night phone calls to get to this point. I thought our Tri-5 unit was nice, but this one is a whole other deal.

Good job Eric

Rodger

[mexMan]

what if someone wants to stop?
They only asked for ''roller'', never for ''stopper''... :rolleyes:
Looks awesome, I like how you ''watermark'' your products with the Ironworks lettering, love it.

[214Chevy]

Can someone buy just a bare frame? Just asking since I already have a 9" rear end and C5 suspension stuff.

[ironworks]

Well the brackets on the 9inch housing are custom and We use a certain fabricated housing to make room for exhaust. Plus there is custom machine work on the spindles for our steering arms. And the chevelle has a custom lower control arm to allow us to lower the rack for engine clearance. But you could sub in some parts as long as they are correct for the application. But some parts are just built or ordered for this application. I suppose you could save yourself a decent little chunk if you had some of the parts already.

[214Chevy]

Well the brackets on the 9inch housing are custom and We use a certain fabricated housing to make room for exhaust. Plus there is custom machine work on the spindles for our steering arms. And the chevelle has a custom lower control arm to allow us to lower the rack for engine clearance. But you could sub in some parts as long as they are correct for the application. But some parts are just built or ordered for this application. I suppose you could save yourself a decent little chunk if you had some of the parts already.

That's exactly why I was asking in terms of saving a little bit of money. I could fab in my own rear end and front suspension parts. I could never build this frame though. It is amazing!! :hail: Therefore, I just wanted to know if a bare frame would be available for us do-it-yourself guys.

[61ragtop]

Makes me want a 64-72 Chevelle!!! Great work:hail: :woot: :willy: :wow: :bow: :cheers:

[nvr2fst]

Nice work Rodger and Eric. Glad to see you guys getting more into producing production parts/chassis. Do you plan on expanding your shop if your chassis line takes off? Producing front/rear clips?

Will there be production frames in the future to mimic chassis like mine, Tylers and Johns car :lol:

[ironworks]

That's exactly why I was asking in terms of saving a little bit of money. I could fab in my own rear end and front suspension parts. I could never build this frame though. It is amazing!! :hail: Therefore, I just wanted to know if a bare frame would be available for us do-it-yourself guys.

I'm not really sure how much sense it make to make your own suspension components like the rear axle brackets and front lower control arm. We have spent a lot of time making jigs and fixtures to build these parts in a way to maintain the original intent of the design. I could see using the upper A arm and spindles and hubs, and ordering a rear axle housing to a width to fit axles you might even have. But building lower arms and rear suspension brackets for the little bit more they cost just does not make sense for the little bit of money you might save.

[ironworks]

Nice work Rodger and Eric. Glad to see you guys getting more into producing production parts/chassis. Do you plan on expanding your shop if your chassis line takes off? Producing front/rear clips?

Will there be production frames in the future to mimic chassis like mine, Tylers and Johns car :lol:

There is a really nice 20,000 sq ft shop down the street Eric and I have been drooling over for a few months.

We plan to work into some custom chassis stuff like some of the crazy things we have done to make them where we can mass produce something similar.

Looks like our Impala chassis may begin next week with the build of a 62 bubbletop.

[GregWeld]

I'm not really sure how much sense it make to make your own suspension components like the rear axle brackets and front lower control arm. We have spent a lot of time making jigs and fixtures to build these parts in a way to maintain the original intent of the design. I could see using the upper A arm and spindles and hubs, and ordering a rear axle housing to a width to fit axles you might even have. But building lower arms and rear suspension brackets for the little bit more they cost just does not make sense for the little bit of money you might save.

Yeah -- ask me about the Ford 9" I just trashed out of the '32 Roadster because some moron warped the housing when they welded on the brackets.... Many people THINK they're great car constructors --- because they own a MIG welder! I'm not saying that is 509's 'case' -- I'm just pointing out that sometimes it "pays" to let a pro do certain parts of the build... and it turns out far less expensive. :cheers:

[61ragtop]

There is a really nice 20,000 sq ft shop down the street Eric and I have been drooling over for a few months.

We plan to work into some custom chassis stuff like some of the crazy things we have done to make them where we can mass produce something similar.

Looks like our Impala chassis may begin next week with the build of a 62 bubbletop.

I can not wait to see that chassis on the 62 as well as the build!!!! :yes:

[T-Type]

I can not wait to see that chassis on the 62 as well as the build!!!! :yes:

ditto!

[Nick.V70]

Rodger.... Looks great man. I already have ideas for my next Chevelle build with this chassis. Awesome stuff man.

[Teetoe_Jones]

Initial pricing is looking to be just over 20K.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chevelle%20wagon/64-67chevellechassisJPEG.jpg

That is one hell of deal for the price. I'm pretty sure I have double that into mine, and at least that 3/4 of that into the first one that was scrapped.

Do it once, do it right; do what works, use Ironworks!

Tyler

[capt.ron]

Pretty short snooty one word answer there.

Does it include welding?
Mig?
Tig?
Will it be welded In a "jig" or saw horses?
Any "Real World Testing" done?
Are people in Bakersfield capable of this level of work or will it be outsourced to China?

JK:thumbsup:

Seems like some good questions that have not been answered. I am in the process of looking for a frame/chassis for my Chevelle and I had a lot of the same questions. I’ve been looking at a few other company’s chassis or possibly going to build my original frame up. I don’t think I will be able to get the performance I want staying with the original frame. Can you answer those questions?

[War]

Seems like some good questions that have not been answered. I am in the process of looking for a frame/chassis for my Chevelle and I had a lot of the same questions. I’ve been looking at a few other company’s chassis or possibly going to build my original frame up. I don’t think I will be able to get the performance I want staying with the original frame. Can you answer those questions?

Uhhmm that was a joke (ie..JK).........except for the saw horses.........or maybe the Bakersfield jab.........but the rest was definitely a joke.

[The WidowMaker]

Uhhmm that was a joke (ie..JK).........except for the saw horses.........or maybe the Bakersfield jab.........but the rest was definitely a joke.

true, but i didnt see any info about testing either. my thought was that there actually isnt a part yet so thats impossible. but i expect to see some good numbers.

[ironworks]

As much as Jason is just playing around there are some valid some valid questions.

The entire chassis is TIG welded. Not just the visible joint, everything including the sanded welds.

Now that Eric and I have finished the design of this second chassis, he is going to have both this chassis and the Tri-5 unit stress tested or do Finite analysis on both of the frames for any week points. We really don't see there being any issues. These frames are built way beyond what is needed. But in my book that is good thing. We are not trying to just connect a to b and put together some frame that improves stance and looks stronger we are working to prove it on paper and then test the car on the road to prove what we kind of already know. So have we done any real world testing, no how can we, we hope to cut out prototype B this week. We will be doing standard A body version and an Elcamino / Pontiac version, They are longer in the rear.

We have done a lot of work on this A-body chassis to improve strength over just putting 4 sides of a box together. Just look at the side rails they are 5 sided for 2 reasons, strength and to allow the body to sit down as low as possible. I like most people hate it when the frame hangs to far below the rocker of the car. So the only way to make it thinner is to make it stronger. The round tube crossmembers don't just slip into place inbetween the rails it has a hole in both rails that allows the tube to go through the chassis and be welded from the outside to contain the whole rail, not just the inside surface or vertical plane. Doing this is much more difficult but these details are what will set it apart from the others, we hope. One tri-5 chassis we set up a 3 plate system to make the frame 50% stronger from the front body mount to the front crossmember. I have heard of chassis's flexing here and having chipped paint to prove it.

When we set out to build these frames we did not look to compete with what is out there price wise, we set out to build the best chassis we could. Price is a consideration, but we used the best parts we could and tried to design the best chassis with a great stance that was strong and would do it's job. Plus we want to create a system to go with the frame. Not everyone wants their engine mounts dictated, they may want it back a little or a little lower. We intend to have things like the fuel tank tabs set and provisions for a fuel filters and regulators. But also sell you a sweet exhaust system in 2.5" or 3", and not just some muffler company kit. we are working hoping to work with someone like SPD and have a true mandrel bent 304 stainless system built for the car so you don't have to. We will also have headers if you use one of our engine placements so we can sell the best product from start to finish short of having a very talented shop build you something that would cost twice the money.



I think this long post makes up for the one line answer I put somewhere else.

Any more questions?

[Nick.V70]

Any updates on our talk Rodger.....:unibrow: