HID Headlights

[Paladin]

Can anyone recommend a HID headlightkit for a 1965 mustang. Are they any good? When I first looked into this in 2004 there was like one manufacturer and it cost $1,500. Now they are like $100?? Any good? My halogens are terrible even with the 'best' bulbs. Looking to switch the taillights to leds too.

thanks for any help.

[BritishGreen68]

your best bet is to get the H4 conversion housings, then run a 100 watt H4 bulb setup with relays. They will be way bright enough. The drop in HID kits are generally reserved for Honda civics with body kits lol.. they are mostly for looking cool, but standard headlight housings are not designed for HID bulbs. You usually get a crappy beam pattern and angry oncoming traffic.. The other option is to retrofit OEM projectors designed for HID into the H4 7" housing. Basically you would cut out the back of the housing and custom mount the whole projection unit to the back of it. You can use Google to search if you don't know what I mean. I have done alot of headlight research in the past. I had German only headlights in a VW I had and I converted them to OEM HID projectors. It's kinda fun to do actually, and also there is a reason OEM HID stuff is $1000 and ebay has it for $99. You want good quality ballast and bulbs or they burn out and or look like crap, left and right color wont match, that sort of thing...

[BBC69Camaro]

If you are considering HID headlights in a classic car, I'd read this thread over at Pro-touring.com before you pull the trigger:

Halogen/HID FACTS!!
http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?49029-Halogen-HID-FACTS!!&highlight=HID

[rogue]

I've yet to see a single proper HID conversion in a build except twist machine.

You need actual projectors..

[BBC69Camaro]

That post I linked is actually written by the owner of Twist Machine.

[Paladin]

Awesome. thanks guys. I figured there had to be a reason no one had them. Seems like a good opportunity for a good quality premium kit for teh g-machine community.

[CrossRamRich]

I have installed a wonderful kit compiled of two manufactuers. Xenon vision HID and Hella lenses. They are on a 69 camaro that was featured in November Chevy Hi. Guessing around 350-400 bucks for both pieces.

[rogue]

Awesome. thanks guys. I figured there had to be a reason no one had them. Seems like a good opportunity for a good quality premium kit for teh g-machine community.

Theres lots of cars on this forum with them, they run them with the "crystal" head lights and blind nearly everyone driving down the road. Not sure if they're running HID's though.

Those crystal headlights put out a HORRIBLE beam. I tried them on my mini.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/__OT3YJ9o9Ao/S3YV6O12BhI/AAAAAAAA2-s/4YrKNKTJm8c/s800/IMG_5085.JPG

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My suggestion is to buy some Hella E-Codes. Amazing headlights for classic cars

[mxer788]

hey guys, I just picked up a set of these from my friend who is the owner of the company. They are a good alternative to the ebay kits or the $1500 hellas. I was lucky because he gave me a pretty good deal, and I thought it would be easier to just have the plug and play kit with the pretty trick cut off design than to deal with retrofitting. I'm not far along enough in my camaro restoration to install them but here's some pics from the website. www.trueprojectorheadlights.com

Oh, and there's two styles, but personally, I liked the look of the classic ones more.

[rogue]

hey guys, I just picked up a set of these from my friend who is the owner of the company. They are a good alternative to the ebay kits or the $1500 hellas. I was lucky because he gave me a pretty good deal, and I thought it would be easier to just have the plug and play kit with the pretty trick cut off design than to deal with retrofitting. I'm not far along enough in my camaro restoration to install them but here's some pics from the website. www.trueprojectorheadlights.com

Oh, and there's two styles, but personally, I liked the look of the classic ones more.

Hella e-codes with HIDs throw off a very decent pattern with no glare for $70.

http://72.215.196.56/hummers/headlights/hella_ecode_coverage_hid.jpg

Save yourself $250 and retain the classic style. Cool idea though.

[HotRod68Camaro]

hey guys, I just picked up a set of these from my friend who is the owner of the company. They are a good alternative to the ebay kits or the $1500 hellas. I was lucky because he gave me a pretty good deal, and I thought it would be easier to just have the plug and play kit with the pretty trick cut off design than to deal with retrofitting. I'm not far along enough in my camaro restoration to install them but here's some pics from the website. www.trueprojectorheadlights.com

Oh, and there's two styles, but personally, I liked the look of the classic ones more.

Those Classic ones actually looks pretty promising, if the cut off is actually that clear.

[Richio1]

What about the Fesler or DSE options? Anybody using them? Thoughts...

[elitecustombody]

hey guys, I just picked up a set of these from my friend who is the owner of the company. They are a good alternative to the ebay kits or the $1500 hellas. I was lucky because he gave me a pretty good deal, and I thought it would be easier to just have the plug and play kit with the pretty trick cut off design than to deal with retrofitting. I'm not far along enough in my camaro restoration to install them but here's some pics from the website. www.trueprojectorheadlights.com

Oh, and there's two styles, but personally, I liked the look of the classic ones more.

Which car are you using these on? Any installed pics?

[mxer788]

Yea, the cutoff design was intriguing to me. It has a flap that cuts off the beam and makes it completely level. When you switch to high beams the flap flips up and allows the whole beam to be exposed. I thought it a pretty simple/ingenious design with fewer needed parts.

The car in the lighting pic is the owners 280Z. There's pics of it on the website but he has the moderns, with the black projector housing, installed. He said the classics have the exact same light spread though. He just recently got ahold of the classic styles so I think I was one of the first to get them. Unfortunately I haven't seen any installed pics of them. My father has a pretty clean 65 mustang and it it takes the same 7 inch round design. He wants to get a set since he saw mine. I'll probably install them for him so I'll take pics and post. It might be a few weeks though since the car is in the shop right now.

Here's a couple pics from the website of the modern housing design installed on his car and a 240Z:

[HotRod68Camaro]

Yea, the cutoff design was intriguing to me. It has a flap that cuts off the beam and makes it completely level. When you switch to high beams the flap flips up and allows the whole beam to be exposed.

Exactly, It's like the newer Infinity projectors.

[Grnova]

Tried to contact them no answer are they still in bussiness?

[speedshftr]

is your username reflective of
HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL
that is one of my favorite shows.:yes:

[mxer788]

Tried to contact them no answer are they still in bussiness?

[email protected]

(415) 493 8236

Email is definitely the best way to reach him, but the phone should work.

I was talking to him about some interest on this forum and he said he could do a group buy of at least 5 people for 325 each set. Let me know if you are interested!

[mxer788]

So over the holidays I met up with my buddy to pick up my headlights and he asked if I wanted to help install them in his 81 Porsche. I was interested in the install process and I took phone pics so I could post them up here. We hit a speedbump because the headlight setup is somewhat odd in the german car. (I'm happy I have a camaro). But with some tinkering we got it to work. He has since acquired extensions and 55w ballasts, an optional upgrade from the 35w, to make the kit more universal. I think they look pretty good, it just made me a little more excited to work on my car. I just have to find the money/time.

Here's the pics(sorry, the weather was pretty bad):

[Paladin]

is your username reflective of
HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL
that is one of my favorite shows.

its the name of my 65 fastback. even has the chess piece logo airbrushed on the intake manifold

Anyway, those classic kits look pretty good mxer788, I would be interested at $325. I assume they will fit a 65 Mustang. standard 7" lights

:cheers:

[Travis77]

I was actually trying to research this same topic today without even seeing this post. Does anyone have any experience with this company? I plan to make some some calls this week.

http://articles.dashzracing.com/h6024-mustanground-projector-headlights/

[CraigMorrison]

What about the LED headlights - Have seen them on a few cars, but nothing in the PT world, yet.

[Silver69Camaro]

What about the LED headlights - Have seen them on a few cars, but nothing in the PT world, yet.

As used on TLC's rigs:
LED Headlamps (http://www.truck-lite.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=64057&langId=-1)

[wiedemab]

I thought about those for one of my projects, but decided against it. I guess $300 a pair isn't all that terrible, but not that cheap either.

[mxer788]

is your username reflective of
HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL
that is one of my favorite shows.

its the name of my 65 fastback. even has the chess piece logo airbrushed on the intake manifold

Anyway, those classic kits look pretty good mxer788, I would be interested at $325. I assume they will fit a 65 Mustang. standard 7" lights

:cheers:

Yea they should fit. My stepdad has a 65 mustang and I'm supposed to install them for him. It might be a few weeks, but I'll put pics up for you!

LED's are probably the future, but I don't think the prices are low enough for them to gain popularity yet.

[Paladin]

cool. didn't even know led's were an option. Are Audi headlights led or hid?

[mxer788]

cool. didn't even know led's were an option. Are Audi headlights led or hid?

I believe the angel eyes are LED and the projector (regular headlight) is HID. I don't know of any OEM that has LED headlights or tailights, just running lights. The exception would be in the more expensive cars. Ferrari tailights maybe?

[69convt]

2011 Prius comes with optional LEDs

[Gordz32]

I know escalades have an options for LED headlights as well. I actually just purchased a set of the classic headlights from Ben. So far everything looks great. I installed one on the chevelle and have yet to find time to finish the install. Most likely this weekend. I'll post pics and an update when I'm don.

[Grnova]

What happened to their site? Are they gone!

[rogue]

2011 Prius comes with optional LEDs

end of thread.

[lhkustoms]

end of thread.

:lol: no prius comments allowed :rofl:

[Sieg]

:lol: no prius comments allowed :rofl:
I wish someone would build a pro-touring P**us that is the exact opposite of everything the P**us stands for. Say a 383 stroker 750 double pumper, Flowmasters, maybe even oil injectors in the exhaust, and so on. Imagine the glares one would receive from loyal P**us owners at stop lights. :unibrow:

[lhkustoms]

I wish someone would build a pro-touring P**us that is the exact opposite of everything the P**us stands for. Say a 383 stroker 750 double pumper, Flowmasters, maybe even oil injectors in the exhaust, and so on. Imagine the glares one would receive from loyal P**us owners at stop lights. :unibrow:


That's a great idea I love it. I'd do it but the body style is just f****** ugly

[rogue]

I wish someone would build a pro-touring P**us that is the exact opposite of everything the P**us stands for. Say a 383 stroker 750 double pumper, Flowmasters, maybe even oil injectors in the exhaust, and so on. Imagine the glares one would receive from loyal P**us owners at stop lights. :unibrow:

I want to buy one just to bash it into things for a youtube channel.

[Sieg]

That's a great idea I love it. I'd do it but the body style is just f****** ugly
Proper bulge and intake on the hood, Sierra Cosworth rear wing, tastefully bulged fenders, proper paint scheme...........:yes:

People would love it just out of principle...........hell it might make top 5 at SEMA. :rofl: Title the project global alarming? :D

We need to find a WA/OR Surgar Daddy that despises P**us' and will fund it enthusiastically out of spite. :yes: :unibrow:

I'd gladly provide complimentary creative consulting for the project. :thumbsup:

[Sieg]

I want to buy one just to bash it into things for a youtube channel.Public stoning with discarded batteries. :thumbsup:

[Croaker]

What happened to their site? Are they gone!

What he said - the website seems to be dead?

[djorgensen3]

This guy over on Nasty Z28 forum did it with projectors:

http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206031

[mxer788]

What happened to their site? Are they gone!

I know he was trying to formalize the company and the name to Dapper lighting, but for some reason the website doesn't forward. The new domain has all the info though.

www.dapperlighting.com

If anyone can mod a prius, it's someone on this forum.