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chrismx4
11-04-2010, 11:08 AM
I am new to the forms and i am 16 years old and i am looking at a 1995 Camaro with t tops. It needs a motor and trans. I was planing to put a ls1 into it with twin turbo for a every day driver. Also putting a manual trans into it please leave any help or ideas thanks.
jy211
11-04-2010, 11:22 AM
I am new to the forms and i am 16 years old and i am looking at a 1995 Camaro with t tops. It needs a motor and trans. I was planing to put a ls1 into it with twin turbo for a every day driver. Also putting a manual trans into it please leave any help or ideas thanks.
Fix it up make it run smooth, look great and just ride the car out. :thumbsup:
Den69RS96
11-04-2010, 12:41 PM
I'm not sure of your financial situation, but swapping a v6 to a ls1 is going to cost alot of money and its alot of work. If you have the cash and time, I say go for it, but here is a list of some of the things you'll need. At the very least, you'll need the ls1, wiring harness, computer, front and rear coil springs, front cross member, tranny (clutch if 6spd), drive shaft, tranny cross member, radiator and fans, gauge cluster, fuel lines and a new fuel pump. You might need to swap over to a z28 rear end as well. It will be easier to locate a donor z28 with the same year as you'll car and the wiring will be easier to modify.
ArisESQ
11-04-2010, 12:51 PM
I'm not sure of your financial situation, but swapping a v6 to a ls1 is going to cost alot of money and its alot of work. If you have the cash and time, I say go for it, but here is a list of some of the things you'll need. At the very least, you'll need the ls1, wiring harness, computer, front and rear coil springs, front cross member, tranny (clutch if 6spd), drive shaft, tranny cross member, radiator and fans, gauge cluster, fuel lines and a new fuel pump. You might need to swap over to a z28 rear end as well. It will be easier to locate a donor z28 with the same year as you'll car and the wiring will be easier to modify.
X2
If you know that you want to do an LS1 swap in a 4th gen, you'll be much better off just finding a Z28. And for the sake of affordability, I'll suggest that you just do a head and cam swap with some long tubes on an otherwise stock LS. That should give you WAY more than enough power to get you in some trouble and be a lot of fun :thumbsup:
chrismx4
11-04-2010, 01:18 PM
thanks for the info i didn't know that it would be that much doing the swap hearing you guys talk about all the work im for that but not about buying all the other stuff. so what about just going to put a v8 camaro engine of the same year. thanks
jy211
11-04-2010, 01:19 PM
start out with a V8 and be done. Much much easier :D
Swain
11-04-2010, 01:39 PM
Put 100 shot of NOS and call it a day :thumbsup:
chrismx4
11-04-2010, 01:41 PM
so are you guys saying that a v8 will bolt right up without much modifying
pokey64
11-04-2010, 01:54 PM
so are you guys saying that a v8 will bolt right up without much modifying
I took it as just buy a camaro with a V8 in it already.
BritishGreen68
11-04-2010, 01:56 PM
I took it as just buy a camaro with a V8 in it already.
do that^^^
BonzoHansen
11-04-2010, 02:03 PM
I took it as just buy a camaro with a V8 in it already.
I agree
chrismx4
11-04-2010, 02:10 PM
The camaro is coming from a friend and doesn't have a motor or trans so i cant just go out and buy a v8 camaro i have to build a hot rod
Diognes56
11-04-2010, 02:12 PM
If you are going to change a V6 4th Gen to a V8, you have to change the engine/transmission crossmembers. Doesn't matter if it is the same year (95 would be a LT1) or later year (LS1s were from 98-2002). If you are swapping from the same year, you will atleast need the harness and PCM for the engine/trans you will be running. I think you would still need the PCM flashed/tuned so that it will communicate with the BCM since the 4th Gens used the passlock keys.
V6 exhaust won't bolt up. Rearend would be fine, not ideal but fine, it is the same rearend just (usually) with lower gearing and without the limited slip. Not sure on the fuel pump the 3.4L cars used, but it definitely wouldn't handle a LS1, not sure about an LT1.
David
ArisESQ
11-04-2010, 02:26 PM
The camaro is coming from a friend and doesn't have a motor or trans so i cant just go out and buy a v8 camaro i have to build a hot rod
It's not that you CAN'T do it that way, it's just going to be a lot more work than just buying a V8 and putting it in the car.
You'll probably need stiffer springs in the front of the car at the very least, you'll definitely need a new fuel pump, you'll need a new harness,trans cross member... It'll take a little research to get a list of everything together, and it isn't necessarily hard.... it's just gonna end up costing more than buying a car with a V8 in it already.
If this is absolutely what you want to do, I'd say you should get an LQ4 or LQ9 instead of the LT1 or LS1. It'll end up costing a little more, but it would be different at least, and (in my opinion) worth the extra expense and hassle.
As for the twin turbo stuff; doable, but costly.
chrismx4
11-04-2010, 02:55 PM
I just got to turbos the are the same the guy i am letting install them into the car is doing all of the tubing and mounting
98ssnova
11-04-2010, 02:59 PM
so are you guys saying that a v8 will bolt right up without much modifying
I believe you need a v-8 cradle or subframe for the front
pokey64
11-04-2010, 03:25 PM
Just make sure you have a running/driving daily driver before starting this project. I'd hate to see you finish high school walking home. :D
Don't let me discurage you. I really don't know much about these specifc cars. If you want to figure this out and make it happen at 16 then you'll be way ahead of the curve in terms of knowledge/skill! :thumbsup:
ArisESQ
11-04-2010, 03:37 PM
I just got to turbos the are the same the guy i am letting install them into the car is doing all of the tubing and mounting
If you already have all that stuff worked out, then you'll be fine! Turbos have been done thousands of times, so there's a wealth of information available on plumbing and packaging that works.
That being said, and since it seems like this is the route you're definitely going, I suggest you try to locate an LQ4 instead of an LS1 for the swap. The LQ4's lower compression ratio and iron block would be more ideal for forced induction in stock form, and I think they can be found for pretty reasonable prices now.
EDIT: the more i think about this, the more i think you should just start off with a V8 car. even if you got a V6 rolling chassis for free, i think at the end of the day you'd spend either the same or less starting off with an original V8 car - and that's without even considering all the annoying little problems you'd find along the way.
Den69RS96
11-05-2010, 06:54 AM
Your not just gonna be able to bolt up a ls1 in to a v6 car. I was going to go the same route with my 96RS, but I decided not too. Before you do anything, google swaping a v8 into a v6 car. You could buy a nice running z28 for alot less than this swap will cost you. Also check with your dmv about v8 swaps.
In 1995, the z28 came with a LT1. If you go with a LS1 or LQ engine, your going to have to cut and modify the ls1 wiring harness to get the the car to run. it will be much easier to find a 1995 z28 LT1 motor, ecm, and wiring harness since it should be a plug and play. If you go the LS1 route, I suggest you find the wiring diagrams because this isn't a easy task if your don't know what your doing. Also, you will need the gauge cluster from a z28because the v6 gauge cluster will be way off. Also, the fuel pump will need to be replaced because the v8 pumps put out alot more volume and depending on the engine, you may or may not need a return fuel line.
LT1 and LS1 use different engine craddles, so you need to find one from a z28or go aftermarket from a company like BMR. Also if you go LS1, plan on replacing the steering rack and intermediate shaft because you will have fitment and alignment issues as the LS1 used a different set up. The v6 trannys have a different bolt pattern than the v8 cars, so you'll need a v8 tranny. Also the tranny crossmember are different. You'll need a different driveshaft as well. Don't forget the v8 front and rear springs as well. There will be a tone of little things that you'll need like a v8 radiator and fans, hoses, o2 sensors, other sensors,spark plugs etc. You'll also need headers, cats, and a different exhaust.
This stuff adds up quick so make a list of things you'll need and how much it cost.
Jano4
11-06-2010, 02:27 PM
As stated already, it would be much easier and cheaper to just start off with a V8 Camaro then doing the swap.
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