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Steve Chryssos
06-22-2010, 07:14 AM
We did it! The 2nd Annual Motor State Challenge is the largest performance-driving event ever held for muscle cars. In fact, with almost 80 entries, we almost doubled the 2009 field. The reason for the event’s success is a simple formula of affordable entry fees, SCCA safety and scoring, plus tons of exciting pro-touring performance and camaraderie. Those of you who came out, we can’t thank you enough.

Lane Automotive, the parent company of Motor State Distributing and Allstar Performance, make the event possible. That is no gratuitous plug. While many mainstream companies are dismissive of pro touring, Lane Automotive believes that well-rounded performance is the future of hot rodding. They believe in our community. For 2010, we certainly did our part by bringing some of the fastest, grippiest, most refined hot rods ever built.
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The results were nothing short of amazing. The cruise turned into a free for all when 70 mph winds and driving rain forced everyone to race back to the hotel. It’s not every day that you see dozens of hot rods hauling ass under black skies and extreme weather.
Despite being cut short, the cruise and bbq was a success. On the way to Warren Dunes, Lane Automotive arranged for a full police escort. We must have blown 20 red lights and stop signs on our way to the barbecue. I elbowed a small child to be first on line. I’m sorry kid.
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At Gingerman Raceway, tire treadwear, once again, proved to be irrelevant. Stielow and Finch ran within one second of each other in the finals despite running 220 and 300 treadwear tires, respectively. Unfortunately, the silly tire rule did have one negative impact. It kept Hotchkis Performance, from participating in the Quick 16 final. Hotchkis trekked all the way from California with their familiar yellow Challenger and ran fourth overall in road course qualifying. The performance of that car is nothing short of amazing given that it only runs bolt on Hotchkis suspension parts like torsion bars, leaf springs and sta-bars. But because Hotchkis ran the same 180 TW tires that are legal at Goodguys, they were not allowed to back up their fourth place qualifying time in the finals. Other participants chose to stay away rather than buy an extra set of “compliant” 200 TW tires. As one of the event promoters, I’m wholly embarrassed by this turn of events. We don’t want anyone to feel excluded or denied. In our world, driver skill has proven to far outweigh any other parameter including tires and horsepower. The top 8 cars in the field ranged from 400HP to 1200HP. It’s all about the driver.
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When you see Mark Steilow’s new ride, the Red Devil, you won’t believe it’s not quite finished. The proof could be found out on the track, though. On hard decel, flames would shoot out of the exhaust. Flamethrowers are cool, but so is a finely tuned air/fuel map. Likewise, engine coolant temps reached 245 degrees. But the car still flew around the track and did so with grace. The trophy results fail to show that the Schwartz Performance Ultima posted the second fastest lap time overall. Jeff Schwartz is an experienced driver and the Ultima has a mid mounted twin turbo LS motor. The Ultima is fast and fun to watch. It’s also impossible to ignore the fact that not one but THREE Detroit Speed equipped Camaros were hanging with and even eclipsing the Ultima’s lap times. And the Hotchkis Challenger and Roadster Shop Chevelle were right there also. That’s HUGE news for the pro touring community! Once again, we clarified that, with the right driver behind the wheel, a well-built pro touring car can yield honest Supercar performance.
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In the road course finals, Brian Finch’s 2nd place finish set the tone for Sunday’s autocross. Brian has only been road racing for about one year. But he can run with accomplished drivers like Stielow and Mark Hotchkis. Finch’s raw talent really shined through on Sunday where he bested the entire field of autocross entries. Newcomer Chris Jacobs posted the second best autocross time in his Chevelle. Chris is a real gentleman and his performance is impressive. The Hotchkis Performance Challenger came in 3rd place overall with Mark Hotchkis behind the wheel. 300 treadwear tires (Finch) beat out 180 treadwear tires (Hotchkis). And what about Stielow? His overall autocross rank was 9th. When you knock out ineligible entries like vendors, newer cars, Cobras, and sub 200 tires, Stielow’s rank improved to 4th place. That right there is how Brian Finch beat Mark Stielow. The gap between 1st and 4th was big enough to erase Stielow’s road course lead from Saturday. Both guys built cars in their home garages. Both guys have day jobs. And both have proven that driver skill is the most potent, shiniest upgrade you can make to your hot rod.
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My 20-year career has brought me to some amazing events. NHRA Winternationals, Daytona 500, Bonneville, Power Tour—it’s a long list. I can honestly say that the Motor State Challenge is the best-kept secret in hot rodding. From the endless line of amazing cars in the paddock to the smell of superheated metal from high dollar machines, the action is impressive. And you get to dispel the many “bench racing” myths that are so pervasive in the internet age. See it with your own eyes: Who’s fast? Who blows up? Who is all talk? Who is conspicuous by their absence.
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We’ve learned a lot about our cars’ capabilities and limitations. Some things will change for the future and I’m proud to be a part of the process. Earlier today, we roughed out a radical plan to accommodate 120 cars at the 2011 Motor State Challenge. We hope to see you there next year.

Thanks for looking
/Steve Chryssos
Technical Director Motor State Challenge

Ryne@Schwartz
06-23-2010, 11:16 AM
Nice pictures! Where's the results though? Your title lied to me! :willy: :question:

Payton King
06-23-2010, 12:36 PM
with an improved car and hopefully and improved driver.

Good seeing you again Steve!

Van B
06-23-2010, 05:55 PM
After missing this year due to family commitments I am going to try hard to make it back again next year. On another weekend besides Father's Day would help, but I am going to try hard.

cmraman
06-23-2010, 06:01 PM
Awesome event and I can't wait til next year.

mjschneidy
06-23-2010, 06:56 PM
Yep.. great event and thanks to those that put it on and the entire support team.

Unfortunately I only got one run in as my son took a dive off the truck and hit his head on the trailer right at the end of the lunch break. We spent until 3pm in the ER getting him stitched up. He's ok and wants to come back, this was his first trip to the track with dad. Yeah that was me running a screaming bleeding child through the pits to the medics. :(

But anyway great event, lots of really nice cars, wish I had more time to run and get to know a few of you. See you all next year...

Oh.. someone was taking pictures at turn 11 early in the day, I pitched it sideways for you would like to see that picture if you have it. Any pics of my 82 Mustang GT would be great if anyone snapped any. Car number 82

Thanks, Mike

awr68
06-23-2010, 09:15 PM
I must have missed it....what's the story with Bill's car?

Vegas69
06-23-2010, 09:46 PM
Man I wish I was closer to some of these events! That was a great competition. I don't understand why Jake would not show up due to a treadwear rule. It's still a blast to race right? I showed up to El Toro with R888's and would do it again everyday of the week. Sure next time I want to go for the trophy but I have no regrets.

Steve Chryssos
06-24-2010, 04:10 AM
No, I made a mistake, there. Spoke to Jake this morning. Treadwear has nothing to do with it. He wanted to bring the 69 and it has a bent valve. Rather than spend money to fix it, he is focusing on other events like Pirelli UTCC. I will edit text.

Sorry for being presumptuous, Jake.

Steve Chryssos
06-24-2010, 04:33 AM
I must have missed it....what's the story with Bill's car?

Bill's friend Mark was driving with Bill in the passenger seat. Two wheels got off and BURROWED into the earth--big time. No harm done other than a coupla flat tires.

Steve Chryssos
06-24-2010, 04:58 AM
Scott,
I am emailing you results pdf files. I can't get them to upload. File size exceeded.

XcYZ
06-24-2010, 05:35 AM
Got it. :cheers: Here they are:

Stuart Adams
06-24-2010, 09:41 AM
DSE also has a nice write up, video and pics of the event, on their site. FYI.

Headlines
06-24-2010, 09:46 AM
Was our first event and had a blast here are some of my pics from the event

69Lt4
06-24-2010, 09:51 AM
First time to the event and had a great time. Met some great people. Great job by all those envolved in making it happen.
Will have the car ready for next years.

Kevin

69 camaro LT4 / T56 9" DSE suspension, Baer brakes, Budnik wheels...............

Headlines
06-24-2010, 09:52 AM
The wife at Registration and looking in the car (probably for another pair of shoes) :wow:

MattG
06-24-2010, 12:28 PM
WOW...Looks like everyone had a great time!

I think I know where I will be this time next year!!!!

Thanks to Steve and everyone else who worked hard to make this happen,

Matt

96z28ss
06-24-2010, 04:09 PM
this was on DSE website, poor guy That just sucks.

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Bill Howell
06-24-2010, 04:37 PM
this was on DSE website, poor guy That just sucks.

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That is Mark Owens, part of the ratpack and has worked on my charger more than I have. He wouldn't have it any other way, hard core for sure and enjoys helping out anyway he can. He did have to pull over til the rain calmed down though, this was one bad storm. Proved though that cars are meant to be driven, both in the sunshine and rain....good times for sure.

Steve Chryssos
06-24-2010, 05:44 PM
That's an amazing photo. That power of that storm cannot be exaggerated.

Smittys67
06-24-2010, 07:03 PM
The bad part was it was hailing also. He is the man for driving the vette.

Ryne@Schwartz
06-25-2010, 06:38 AM
Can we get the final overall results posted please?

Jr
06-25-2010, 09:07 AM
Out of curiosity, what did Schwartz Ultima run on the big course?

Steve Chryssos
06-25-2010, 09:18 AM
Standby.....

Steve Chryssos
06-25-2010, 10:29 AM
I will crunch the numbers over the weekend, but as far as I can tell the Ultima was 3rd fastest overall.

J Schwartz 1974 Ultima GTR Yellow
01.42.62 1.38.65 1.36.45 01.42.62 1.36.45 (Best)

89 RS
06-25-2010, 09:50 PM
Great stuff! Looks and sounds like everybody had a great time.

jeff s
06-27-2010, 11:12 AM
Schwartz Chassis equipped cars did well.
Mike Holleman won the Long Distance award after driving his ElCamino over 1000 mile and competing in the entire event.
Myself and Chris Jacobs tied for 3rd overall with AX being the tiebreaker. Chris led Finch in the AX for a bit, I had a shock failure in the Temptress that took me out of the Ax late in the day.

68protouring454
06-27-2010, 02:49 PM
Man I wish I was closer to some of these events! That was a great competition. I don't understand why Jake would not show up due to a treadwear rule. It's still a blast to race right? I showed up to El Toro with R888's and would do it again everyday of the week. Sure next time I want to go for the trophy but I have no regrets.

it had nothing to do with treadwear, i have r888 and some pilot sports.(last rtth i ran r888 and was not allowed in the competition) while driving on the street my 69 broke a valve spring, and started skipping. with aix racing,and all my shop work i did not have time to get right on it and get it fixed. I chose not to go because i did not have a customer hot rod or my car to bring. I could of brought the race car, but i could only use it at gingerman, it doesnt like 20-40mph.
looked like a great event i wont miss the next one.

Bill Howell
06-27-2010, 02:53 PM
it had nothing to do with treadwear, i have r888 and some pilot sports. while driving on the street my 69 broke a valve spring, and started skipping. with aix racing,and all my shop work i did not have time to get right on it and get it fixed. I chose not to go because i did not have a customer hot rod or my car to bring. I could of brought the race car, but i could only use it at gingerman, it doesnt like 20-40mph.
looked like a great event i wont miss the next one.

We missed you Jake. Some of us really wanted to see the race car.

68protouring454
06-27-2010, 02:56 PM
yes, bill i missed you guys as well, it was just a long trip (2400 miles) to do, and not participate on all three days with a car. It wont happen again...

Ryne@Schwartz
06-28-2010, 10:18 AM
What are the chances of getting a spreadsheet with all the runs listed? The sheet posted has the GTR not listed, the Tempest at a best of 1:41.12 which we think might be wrong, and the Vega at 1:48.20.

It's hard to compare our results when we don't have the right numbers.

Sorry, not trying to flame or bash, just want to see how all the cars stacked up. Thanks.