Stielow wins the road course section (Motorstates Challenge) Brian Finch wins overall

[camcojb]

Beat Brian Finch in second place by a second. Impressive since this is a brand new car with zero time on it, no track time at all. He was going fast, but not all-out due to the car being brand new. Also tells you how fast Brian is.................. :thumbsup:

Now it's on to Marks favorite part, the autocross................ :lol:

Jody

[Roger M]

Pretty impressive considering he hasn't had any time to get the car sorted out. Looking forward to pictures and more results.

Thanks for the update :thumbsup:

[camcojb]

final results of the road course portion:

[XcYZ]

I call shotgun in Mark's car in Pahrump for the Optima Invitational. :D

[awr68]

Big :thumbsup: to Mark!! And a very nice runner up Brian!! :thumbsup:

Good to see the cars getting used!! :lateral: :cheers:

[ProdigyCustoms]

Also very impressed with both Mark and Brian. No one was else even close.

What I wonder is how they value points for each segment, because there is a high likely hood Brian could win the autocross.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

nice work guys. Great car Mark.
Can't wait to see it when it gets to Woodland. Just kidding Charles.


Vince

[Vegas69]

I'm very impressed. However, Mark's starting point in easily beyond most folks dialed in point. He knows how to build a car. He's been there, done that. I'm betting he'll pick up another second or two once he get's used to the car and gets the feel right.

[70TWO NOVA]

pics? vid?

[Stuart Adams]

Great driver, great car parts, huge power = no brainer. Congrats Mark, I know you wanted to get r dun.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Most impressive,props to both...:thumbsup:

[David Pozzi]

Thanks for the update.
That track rewards good HP and good brakes. Congrats to Mark! :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Congrats to Mark. That is awesome.:thumbsup: :cheers:

[Ron in SoCal]

No competition in that field....:wow:

[camcojb]

Just edited the title, Brian Finch wins overall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

[ProdigyCustoms]

WOW! Very impressive.

I am pretty proud, that is our motor in that car.

[MarkM66]

Finch is hard to beat! :hail:

[Bow Tie 67]

Marks car in one word " WICKED "

[Van B]

WOW! Very impressive.

I am pretty proud, that is our motor in that car.


What's the power and torque?

[Stuart Adams]

Very cool.

[ProdigyCustoms]

What's the power and torque?

I did not want to steal the thread. it is the flagship of our new engine program so i wanted Brian to torture test it.

It is a NA 418 we build, made 504 HP to the tires and 486TQ to the tires, so it is almost square.

He is 2 for 2 since the new engine.

We talked about putting a 100 shot of nitrous on it for the road coarse to help catch Mark but I guess he decided not too. Probably better do that before next year, LOL!

[clill]

Anybody that builds cars can appreciate what Mark did by bringing a just born car to the track. He was up till about 1:am Thursday night bolting the car together. To work that well on the road course right out of the box is amazing. I hate to see him when it gets it dialed in to it's potential.

[clill]

And i forgot to mention how bitchiness the autocross was. I almost got jackass out of 1st gear.

[camcojb]

And i forgot to mention how bitchiness the autocross was. I almost got jackass out of 1st gear.
you love it.......................... :lol:

[JayR]

Like has already been said over and over, it's a major achievement for both guys but you have to give it up for Brian hanging with a guy who has logged 1000s of road course miles on the Nurburgring no less and built a bunch of world class cars. Extremely well done, to both of them!

Brian's been cleaning up at every event this year but Mark is going to be hard to beat twice in a row! There's a target on your bumper, Brian!

[ProdigyCustoms]

Anybody that builds cars can appreciate what Mark did by bringing a just born car to the track. He was up till about 1:am Thursday night bolting the car together. To work that well on the road course right out of the box is amazing. I hate to see him when it gets it dialed in to it's potential.

Exactly why I was saying Brian will need the nitrous next year!

[David Pozzi]

Thanks for the news!
Was there just the two events? Or were the cars judged for show points too?
David

[Bill Howell]

Congrats to both.
Dave there were no carshow points however Mark did win the peoples choice by a large number.
The real impressive thing to me is not only is Brian winning on the track, he is driving to and from the events. Proving to me his car is truely "Pro-touring" like the cars that come out of Marks stable. Oh and don't worry Mark, no pictures of the loading yesterday.....haha

[Bow Tie 67]

Exactly why I was saying Brian will need the nitrous next year!


Frank, I'm sure you know this, but just in case. That's a big no, no on a road course, way to dangerous.

So what are the specs: bore x stroke, VVT?, Head work?, inquiring minds want to know. :D

[ProdigyCustoms]

Actually did not know that as a matter of fact.

Motor is a 418CI, forged 4340 bottom end, L92 heads, small cam (for a 418), No VVT. Makes right at 600HP and 580 TQ. We are running a FAST LSXR intake and TB on this one.

With a bigger cam we can get more horsepower but lose TQ, so a lot of testing found the perfect balance. That TQ coming off the corners on the road coarse is great. And it is KILLER on the autocross.

These motor are built for boats that run sustained 4000 - 5000 RPMs under intense load. So if they can live in a boat, they can live anywhere. We change the cam specs for more friendly power curve in a car, and use the same guts otherwise.

The long blocks with cam, coils, wires, minus intake, injectors, TB are only $7400.

Ready to run with a FAST intake, tuning / ECM, Road Race pan is under $11K.

So they are a smokin deal. But before I announced our engine program I wanted to run one in the worst possible torture test and know one is driving 1000 to 4000 miles to and from events and running nearly as many laps as Brian! that boy does not need a accelerator peddle, he needs a idle / full throttle switch!

And he is getting 20 MPG with it too!

[GregWeld]

Actually did not know that as a matter of fact.

Motor is a 418CI, forged 4340 bottom end, L92 heads, small cam (for a 418), No VVT. Makes right at 600HP and 580 TQ. We are running a FAST LSXR intake and TB on this one.

With a bigger cam we can get more horsepower but lose TQ, so a lot of testing found the perfect balance. That TQ coming off the corners on the road coarse is great. And it is KILLER on the autocross.

These motor are built for boats that run sustained 4000 - 5000 RPMs under intense load. So if they can live in a boat, they can live anywhere. We change the cam specs for more friendly power curve in a car, and use the same guts otherwise.

The long blocks with cam, coils, wires, minus intake, injectors, TB are only $7400.

Ready to run with a FAST intake, tuning / ECM, Road Race pan is under $11K.

So they are a smokin deal. But before I announced our engine program I wanted to run one in the worst possible torture test and know one is driving 1000 to 4000 miles to and from events and running nearly as many laps as Brian! that boy does not need a accelerator peddle, he needs a idle / full throttle switch!

And he is getting 20 MPG with it too!

VERY IMPRESSIVE Frank! :cheers: :woot:

[Vegas69]

[QUOTE=ProdigyCustoms;292600]I did not want to steal the thread. :rofl:

[ProdigyCustoms]

Sorry, he asked.


So what are the specs: bore x stroke, VVT?, Head work?, inquiring minds want to know. :D

[dropit69]

i tell ya what though..Randy Bell in the grey primered car came in 5th and has a mild ls1 lacking a ton of power to these guys..id love to see Randy with a motor like Prodigys in his car..Randy is just lacking the funds not the talent...

[tellyv]

It's the guys with the most practice that are really good, yes you have to have some talent but the more laps you put on the better you'll get, Mark is a very good driver with many laps behind his belt and could probably beat most of us in a Miata! As for Finch I'm not sure where he get his practice besides hitting all these events but whatever he's doing is paying off. And I think by talking to Randy last year he races very frequently also, so what I'm trying to say is it's better to be a good driver than have a great car. I wish I could've made it I surely need the practice!

[Stielow]

Well I'm beat..... It has been a long 4 months since I got the car back from paint to get it together.

I would like to thanks all my buddies for helping me get my car going. If it weren't for them I would not have of gotten it done. I would like to thank Paul and Joe VanNus for painting the car and getting it tuned up last week. My buddy Ryan Kuhlenbeck wiring the whole car including the ECM and ABS. My old college roommate Dave Mikels for help get the engine sorted out. Brian Thomson for building the engine. Kyle and Stacy Tucker for giving me help with all the DSE stuff and the initial tuning set up. Laura my girlfriend for putting up with the buildup. Joe Borschke for all the fab work and letting me use his shop. Craig Adams for swinging by and working with me on the trim pieces. Will Handel for moral support and bring parts to the track. Gordon Rojewski for finding my loose bolt and helping with the photo shoot. Charley Lillard for giving me a hard time.

I could not be happier. For a car I drove for the first time Thursday at noon to get to Motorstate and do well is awesome. I wanted do well enough to get an invite to Optima and not break the car.

We all had a great time at Motorstate it is very well run event and it was great to see a lot of old friends.

Now I have the rest of the summer to sort the car and get the rest of the stuff working. I have a small over temp issue that we need to sort out. Once we get that we should gain back about another 75 HP. I’ll get the ABS working should be worth a little.

Well it is off to Wal-Mart to practice Auto-X, need to gain about 1 second…where did I put the construction cones…..lol

Thanks

Stielow

[DOOM]

Mark YOU ARE THE MAN!! WOW!! And Mr Finch is no slouch eather. Way to go guy's

[clill]

And I'm stranded in Chicago trying to get home because of a storm that went thru here. I'm blaming in on the autocross.

[dropit69]

i suppose you flew outa ohare?...Matt (bowtie67) works on them planes and he was up late all weekend blame him..lol..

[cdushane]

Congrats Mark! Want another 69 to dial in for the track?!? :unibrow:
I'll be glad to send you mine :D

[Steve Chryssos]

At last year's Motor State Challenge, Mark ran a 1:34.58 in Jackass--That's faster than this year's best overall time. So there is some more time in the new car for sure. We will get to see how The Red Devil Competes against bona fide track cars and world class supercars at the Pirelli Ultimate Track Car Challenge at VIR July 23rd.

The real story here is Brian Finch. He ran very quick on the road course, but beat Stielow by a wide margin on the autocross. When I post them, lap times will show that Brian needed to make up time on the road course. And he stepped up his game. We work hard at the Motor State Challenge to keep frontrunners current on their rank. That way they can work towards improving their times throughout the day.

I'll work on an official Motor State Challenge recap thread tonight.

[Steve Chryssos]

Oh yeah. Here are answers to a coupla questions:

-No, we do not count style points.

-We weigh autocross and road course equally. Some folks are just naturally better at one discipline or the other. Equal points avoids any advantage other than driver skill.

[Stielow]

Oh yeah. Here are answers to a coupla questions:

-No, we do not count style points.

-We weigh autocross and road course equally. Some folks are just naturally better at one discipline or the other. Equal points avoids any advantage other than driver skill.

Congradulations to Brian Finch he did a great job! He has a great car and drives it very well. He had those cars hooked up in the AutoX! :hail:

Looking forward to get my car out and getting it sorted and getting some sleep. :thumbsup:

Stielow

[Rybar]

Congrats to Brian and Mark. :thumbsup:

What car won for Brian? the '69 or the '70?

[Bow Tie 67]

Ah, sleep is over-rated, although I needed the 9 hours I slept last night. I want to apologize to all the #1 group for slowing everyone down with my off track antics. The third session, when I spun out to the inside of turn 10, was the best. Watching everyone go by at speed was caught on my Go-pro. Unfortunately, it did not have enough range to pick up Marks exhaust flames going into the carousel. Mark I have to say, seeing how deep you entered that corner under throttle, the trail braking and how quick you were back in the throttle, was priceless. Congrats to all the competitors, great job!!! :thumbsup:

[Finch]

We just got home and the Camaro now has an extra 1205 miles on it from the past 4 days, some of them harder than the others. We had a great time at this event and taking home another win is just icing on the cake. The best part as always was the people and getting see old friends and make new ones.

Mark's car is a work of art and is so well put together you would never believe it was just finished the night before. I knew if he showed we would have our work cut out for us and boy did we. I have never been so happy to finish second place as to be as close as I was to a car and driver of that caliber has given me a boost. The Prodigy engine ran great with no issues and feels like it is making even more power as it is getting broken in. I love the torque out of the turns as you don't have to focus on keeping the engine wound up, Just focus on hitting your marks.

Having the top 6 go out in order of times was great for the runoff and I think only one person actually had to pass during the finals. I could see Mark at the end of the back straight each lap and when I could see he was just putting a little distance on me each lap I started pushing it harder and harder. Without that I would have never put down the numbers I did so a big thanks to Mark for giving me something to chase.

Now that Mark has his invite to Pahrump I will need to dig deep into my bag of tricks to try and close the gap. I know it is a big challenge as he will only continue to get faster as the car gets sorted out.

A big thanks to everyone who put this on and especially to Scott at Motorstate as we could not have been there without their great support.

[Steve Chryssos]

Congratulations Brian. You are turning out to be a prime role model for our hobby. Build it in your garage, get it done, drive it, and race it.

As a reminder, you don't need o wait until Pahrump. The invitation is still open for you to participate in the Pirelli Ultimate Track Car Challenge. That's where the big boys will be running -- including Stielow and the Red Devil. It's a chance to see how you rank against an entire field of fast cars and established drivers. Not just a few good pro touring drivers.

And since we created a Pro Touring Trophy Cup for this years event, we also get to see another Finch / Stielow match-up.

Does anyone else want to see Stielow and Finch run again? July 23. VIR.

Here's the link:
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/events/utcc2010/

[Bow Tie 67]

Congratulations Brian. You are turning out to be a prime role model for our hobby. Build it in your garage, get it done, drive it, and race it.

As a reminder, you don't need o wait until Pahrump. The invitation is still open for you to participate in the Pirelli Ultimate Track Car Challenge. That's where the big boys will be running -- including Stielow and the Red Devil. It's a chance to see how you rank against an entire field of fast cars and established drivers. Not just a few good pro touring drivers.

And since we created a Pro Touring Trophy Cup for this years event, we also get to see another Finch / Stielow match-up.

Does anyone else want to see Stielow and Finch run again? July 23. VIR.

Here's the link:
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/events/utcc2010/

Brian, I cant promise 100%, I don't know my schedule yet. But I will fly out to watch this one. You will need to get a competition license prior. Not sure if there is time for that or not. But I am one on the list, just think, full blown racing, on full blown race tires. If you have never raced on GOOD tires, well, its like great Sex!!! DO IT!!!!! :thumbsup:

[GrabberGT]

Brian, I cant promise 100%, I don't know my schedule yet. But I will fly out to watch this one. You will need to get a competition license prior. Not sure if there is time for that or not. But I am one on the list, just think, full blown racing, on full blown race tires. If you have never raced on GOOD tires, well, its like great Sex!!! DO IT!!!!! :thumbsup:

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1234525508_ben_stiller_-_do_it.gif

[Stielow]

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"In the picture of the Chevelle smoking the tires you can see the tire marks where Dave Michaels made his first pass frying the tires just about all the way down the front straight. That is Dave in the reflection photo with Stielow. The Chevelle is Brian Thomsons. Brian built Stielow's engine. His company is www.thomsonengines.com and he is a perfectionist when it comes to engines. His Chevelle is basically a LS9 but 454 inches. It makes 900 ft pounds of torque and 850 hp and it idles at 650 rpm. I think the 900 ft lbs was at 3400 rpm. He drove it on all of Power Tour then drove it to Motorstates. Has done a bunch of development work for GM. The June issue of Hot Rod features a 800 HP LS7 that he built. One of the really nice guys in the industry that I am happy to call a friend."

From - Charley Lillard

Stielow
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[Finch]

Brian, I cant promise 100%, I don't know my schedule yet. But I will fly out to watch this one. You will need to get a competition license prior. Not sure if there is time for that or not. But I am one on the list, just think, full blown racing, on full blown race tires. If you have never raced on GOOD tires, well, its like great Sex!!! DO IT!!!!! :thumbsup:


What is the process to gain a Comp license through Nasa? I still have my R1's with only a few laps on them so............

[clill]

In the picture of the Chevelle smoking the tires you can see the tire marks where Dave Michaels made his first pass frying the tires just about all the way down the front straight. That is Dave in the reflection photo with Stielow. The Chevelle is Brian Thomsons. Brian built Stielow's engine. His company is www.thomsonengines.com and he is a perfectionist when it comes to engines. His Chevelle is basically a LS9 but 454 inches. It makes 900 ft pounds of torque and 850 hp and it idles at 650 rpm. I think the 900 ft lbs was at 3400 rpm. He drove it on all of Power Tour then drove it to Motorstates. Has done a bunch of development work for GM. The June issue of Hot Rod features a 800 HP LS7 that he built. One of the really nice guys in the industry that I am happy to call a friend.:cheers:

[tones2SS]

WOW!!! That is awesome. Car looks killer going fast and standing still. VERY NICE!!:bow: :thumbsup:
Good to know about thompson engines too!:thumbsup:

[JohnC]

In the picture of the Chevelle smoking the tires you can see the tire marks where Dave Michaels made his first pass frying the tires just about all the way down the front straight. That is Dave in the reflection photo with Stielow. The Chevelle is Brian Thomsons. Brian built Stielow's engine. His company is www.thomsonengines.com and he is a perfectionist when it comes to engines. His Chevelle is basically a LS9 but 454 inches. It makes 900 ft pounds of torque and 850 hp and it idles at 650 rpm. I think the 900 ft lbs was at 3400 rpm. He drove it on all of Power Tour then drove it to Motorstates. Has done a bunch of development work for GM. The June issue of Hot Rod features a 800 HP LS7 that he built. One of the really nice guys in the industry that I am happy to call a friend.:cheers:


You guys are all amazing:bow::thumbsup: ....can I be in your group of friends?...:D :_paranoid

[68protouring454]

you only need a time trial license for utcc, but it will take a few events to attain, as you do there hpde program.
the comp license you need a full caged,2 door bar, race car, with personal safety equipment etc.

[avewhtboy]

Here's a link to the pictures I took over the weekend.

http://s304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/avewhtboy/Motor%20State%202010/

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[Finch]

you only need a time trial license for utcc, but it will take a few events to attain, as you do there hpde program.
the comp license you need a full caged,2 door bar, race car, with personal safety equipment etc.

Thanks Jake, I assume I need to attend Nasa events to get the time trial license?

[Steve Chryssos]

Brian,
Call me or email. 386-239-0523.

[monza]

:bow: :hail: :bow: :hail:

[Beach Cruiser]

You guys that go are going to love VIR! It's a first class place. I've run the WS6 out there for some HPDE's and short Circuit cross events on the Patriot loop. One day I'll get the '67 done and run that.

Anybody need any Pit help? I'll be more than glad to offer my services. VIR is only a 3.5 hour drive for me.

[fleetus macmullitz]

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