Project "Red Rocket"...yea, that's right!

[BanditDave]

Hey Guys,

Just the other day I sold my Pro-Touring '78 Trans Am and will be delivering it to its new owner on Memorial Day. I learned a tremendous amount on that car and she sure was great for the limited time I drove her. LS1/4L60e Detroit Speed arms, Pro-Touring F-body Suspension and a boatload of other goodies. And while it saddens me to get rid of her...I am getting married and have some serious house work that needs to be done.

However as one door closes, a new one opens. Well, the door opened for this girl:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/EngineDetail014.jpg

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A 1969 Olds Cutlass S with 44,000 miles on the clock. Why's it look so beat you ask? Well, the previous owner bogarted all the good sheetmetal to put on his 442 only to sell the damn thing! :rolleyes:

Anyway, I snatched this guy up for $1K and the interior is practically mint!

My plans you ask??? Well, I talked with Mark at SC&C and she will be LOADED with the best of his catalog:

- Stage II Plus System
- SPC Lower Control Arms
- SPC Springs
- Currie Currectrac Rear Lowers
- Adjustable Uppers
- Chassisworks VariShocks
- Hellwig Pro-Touring Adjust Rear Bar
- Hellwig 1-1/4 Hollow-wall Front Bar
- Lee 800 Series Box
- HydroBoost
- Front Baer Track System -13in Rotors
- Baer Iron Sport Rears

For Wheels........BOOYAH!!!!!!!!!!

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/RatedX.jpg

18" Rushforth Rated-X!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18X8 fronts 18x10 rears. I love these things and think they will look killer on a Victory Red Painted W-31 Cloned Cutlass with two black stripes down the hood.

Car's coming in the garage this weekedn when the TA leaves...:bow: :bow: :bow:

Oh and for a power plant? This will do nicely...

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/EngineDetail007.jpg

403 Olds from my drag car...ran 11.50s in that but I swapped the cam to make it a little more streetable. For now it will be backed by a TH350 but will eventually get a 200R4 transmission or 4LXX-esque trans. Oh and to top it off...

http://www.massfloefi.com/images/included_parts-big.jpg

A nice little kit from MassFloEFI...

I am sooooo stoked for this project it is ridiculous! I am working on the guts first then paint.

Gentlemen...here she is...a Victory Red Olds Rocket...hence the name...

Project Red Rocket!!!! :rofl: I know I know...I'm just fine with the jokes though...that's why I picked it!!!

Thanks! :lateral:

Dave

Some pics of the TA before she goes:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/Pro%20Touring%20TA/TA3.jpg

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[GHOSTDANCER]

Good luck with the new project Dave and keep us updated :cheers:

[67ChevILL]

Nice upgrade in my opinion.
I love the cutty and think this is going to be very nice.
I like your wheel choice as well. I would love to see 18 in the front and 20's in the back though. The back fender of these cars expose the entire wheel so an 18 in the back might look a little smaller then say an 18 on a chevelle. just my .02 cents.

Question- What headers are you going to go with on this thing?
The only reason I ask is because I had a 67 and headers where hard to find. Only Mondello sold them at that time.

[tones2SS]

Very cool man. I'm digging it. I remember your post in the "for sale" section. Keep us posted please!:thumbsup:
BOOOYAAAHH!!!:cheers:

[BanditDave]

Question- What headers are you going to go with on this thing?
The only reason I ask is because I had a 67 and headers where hard to find. Only Mondello sold them at that time.

Thanks for the compliments! There are a LOT of header choices available now...unfortunately though some of the companies are not keeping up with demand and one in particular closed their doors a little while back.

I can always grab a set of hookers or hedmans if American Racing Headers are in short supply.

Thanks again!
Dave

[BanditDave]

Small Update with BIG NEWS for me!

I have been talking a lot with Mark from SC&C and we have a real solid concept for the suspension and got to talking about wheels today as well.

Originally I was going to go with the Rated X Rushforths you see above. After punting some ideas around with Mark I made a quick call to Jason Rushforth and we just may have a neat little "Concept" for us Olds guys....

Stay tuned...rendering to appear within the next few weeks! :woot:

Dave

[mike343sharpstk]

A Cutlass, awesome!
Glad to see you are going with Olds power, bonus points for the FI too.
Cool:cool:

[tones2SS]

Very cool Dave. Should be awesome!
I'm looking forward to all the "secrets"!:_paranoid :thumbsup:

[waynieZ]

Nice project Dave good luck with it.

[BanditDave]

Finally had a chance to get the car out of the garage and working on her. Tore into the front end and pulled off the fenders, hood and core support.

Got a few pics of the original straight six…kinda cool in its own way. Can’t wait to get this guy up and running and ready to rock and roll.

I plan to pull the engine and tranny tomorrow and hopefully begin separating the body from the frame. I am going to strip the frame of the suspension and take it to a place in Toms River, NJ to have it blasted. I am then going to smooth the factory weld seams gusset accordingly. I will also be adding structural supports in key areas. Finally it will be taken to a place near me to be powder coated.

Enjoy the pics!
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My gorgeous fiancée and helper!!!

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Yea…this is gonna change…haha

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[tones2SS]

VERY NICE! The tear down begins,......:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Here's yet another update! Luckily I accomplished what I have been setting out to do every day I work on her.

Today was getting that old powerplant OUTTA THERE!!!!

For being a six cylinder, GM made sure that biotch takes up a TON of space!!!

After I muscled that out of there I got my helper to power wash...she did a great job!

On to the pics!!!!

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[BanditDave]

Decided to do a little buttoning up on the motor for now...gonna run carbed for a little while until I can afford the fuel injection. I want to upgrade the suspension and rolling stock first...get her moving. Then possibly do the injection then body or vice versa... :faint:



Oh well...on to the pics...sorry for the clutter...too much crap in the garage!!! :eek: :eek:



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[mike343sharpstk]

That olds power looks killer, I get where your comming from. EFI is either expensive or it takes a bunch of your time to build using some of the home build options.
Lots to do, hard to pick where to start and what the priorities are.:willy:

[BanditDave]

That olds power looks killer, I get where your comming from. EFI is either expensive or it takes a bunch of your time to build using some of the home build options.
Lots to do, hard to pick where to start and what the priorities are.:willy:

I most definitely plan on doing the EFI but I know myself too damn well and won't be able to not drive the thing...hahaha

So like you said...all in stages. I am definitely knocking out the suspension first then wheels and tires to make her a roller.

From there, we'll see what the bank account will allow. :lol:

[tones2SS]

Very nice. Good luck.:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Well...I think I might have taken a slight shift in directions...a coworker of mine had been working on me for a while to pick something up off him and oh well...I couldn't resist:

http://turbo4.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/4202R.jpg

I got a ridiculous deal on this baby! Goin' blowthrough now!!! :willy: :wow: :willy:

[mike343sharpstk]

What's the compression ratio in the motor?
Will it need to go lower to utilize that whirligig thing;)?
Cool!
:hail:

[DriverzInc]

Looks like a cool project! I like your choice in wheel! Hope we can help you with them when the time comes! :thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Looks like a cool project! I like your choice in wheel! Hope we can help you with them when the time comes! :thumbsup:

Looking at 3 wheels currently - the New Gen 500 for obvious reasons, the Rushforth Rated-Xs and a little dealy that Jason R is working on for me personally...I think you Olds guys will dig it!

If it is either of the first two, then you got my business! :thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

What's the compression ratio in the motor?
Will it need to go lower to utilize that whirligig thing;)?
Cool!
:hail:

Right now the CR is 9.7:1 which will obviously not work too well on pump...haha. BUT I got my eye on a set of Aluminum heads that should drop the compression significantly enough to get away with Pump Gas...we shall see.

:faint:

[BanditDave]

Finally have a little bit of an update.

I have the engine compartment nice and cleaned up but made some more changes today so I have to redo a couple things...NO BIG DEAL because I am now closer to realizing the concept I was originally after.

Today I purchased a full BMR Fabrication Suspension Kit from Fletcher's Customs...thanks Chad!!! I am planning on a ton of street driving with this thing so this felt like an affordable good start for me. I did not want to put a roll bar in this car, so my '84 Cutlass (originally a drag car) is what will get the turbo and a full SC&C suspension. If you have never talked to Marcus at SC&C...do it! He will educate you without making you feel too stupid. :bow: :bow:

Anyway, here's what the kit looks like! I subbed in the adjustable rear uppers.

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/PKG/HP011.jpg

[ja.stoner63]

Great looking parts. I love the pictures of the Family getting involved as well.:thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Very nice. Should make a HUGE difference.:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Great looking parts. I love the pictures of the Family getting involved as well.:thumbsup:


My fiancee loves working on the stuff with me...that is until the bugs start to get at her. :willy:

[BanditDave]

Very nice. Should make a HUGE difference.:thumbsup:

Thanks man...looking forward to getting the goods....should be here like Tuesday or so of next week. Going to start yanking apart the original suspension now so that it is cleaned up and read to rock when the new stuff shows up! :thumbsup:

[mike343sharpstk]

Compromises must be made when making a car that you can live with for many happy road miles.
I understand not wanting to cage a street car, I don't want to do that to my car either.... well not 'this' one anyway.;)

[BanditDave]

Welp...here's a lilttle teaser. Whatchya think? :thumbsup:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/Turowski1.jpg

[tones2SS]

Very nice man. I like the front bumper!:thumbsup:

[coolwelder62]

Dave look's like a great project.Hey Mike a protouring car has to have a full cage unless you wear a dress.:lol:

[BanditDave]

Dave look's like a great project.Hey Mike a protouring car has to have a full cage unless you wear a dress.:lol:

Yea yea yea...here we go...haha

[BanditDave]

Quick update with more pics to follow tomorrow...

Scored a '68-'72 Chevelle 12bolt rear for peanuts!!! :unibrow: :unibrow: :unibrow:

This will be the perfect candidate for the CPP Big Brake kit!

Also continued work stripping the car apart...should have all the old suspension off by tomorrow and all the old brake lines out as well. :thumbsup:

Not sure if I will be able to stab the engine and tranny in, but went a little different direction with the front timing cover area. Going to replace the "bling bling" with stock, cleaned and repainted bracketry. It will be a cleaner package in my opinion overall and will allow me to mount the turbo (should I choose to use it ;) ) a lot easier.

Pics to follow tomorrow!

[mike343sharpstk]

Yea yea yea...here we go...haha

:P But I need to strap the kids in the back and a roll bar would get in the way.:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

:P But I need to strap the kids in the back and a roll bar would get in the way.:thumbsup:

Funny you say that...my fiancee said the same thing about kids in the back! I was like :wow: :_paranoid

But then I just told her I can make the cross bar removable if I eventually do put the cage in there. :thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Oh boy....I did it again.

I just couldn't resist. I missed the fuel injection and overdrive and practically bulletproof bottom ends.

So I bought this today! :cheering:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/LY6.jpg

Well I got just the shortblock...10 minutes from my house off Craigslist. It is in his '69 Malibu that is running 10s and driving it to the track. I sounds nasty as all get out but no matter to me, this LY6 is staying VVT delete and will be getting L92 heads (~9.6:1 compression) and this guy:

http://turbo4.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/4202R.jpg

It will be backed by a 4L80e and my goal is pump gas, driven to the track, 10 sec boost passes with 18 mpg regular driving. It can be done...OH YES...it can be done!

Oh yea, Santa got lost and dropped something off at my house today as well...

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Let's get this party STARTED!!!! :rockin: :_party: :beavis: :clap:

[tones2SS]

VERY NICE!!!:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Some progress pics...frame is clean and ready to rock...uppers laid in there to see how everything is jiving.

Need to get the short block up in here to make sure I have the mounts where they need to be!

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/CutlassPics112.jpg

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And my outdoor guard kitty!!!! :lolhit:

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[BanditDave]

Got a nice update for today...

Been selling off a lot of my stalled projects and stuff I just couldn't use anymore and am making back some money I am spending on my wedding.

This weekend I picked up the LY6 block, Edelbrock adapter plates and Energy suspension poly-mounts.

I also got a few boxes from the guys in brown...so this morning I snuck out in the garage early and got a little done:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_6107.jpg

I'll snap a few more pics tomorrow but so far I am very happy with the quality of the BMR stuff and with CPP's Big Brake Kit. With BMR I only had one thing not get shipped and was a small oversight on their part. It was in my hands within a few days. CPP I am a little angry with because they charged me shipping when they said it was free, they also told me everything was in stock when I was ordering (because I specifically asked about that...one of my reasons I bought their kit) then when my order wasn't charged in over a week I called and found the hubs were on backorder. :censored: :censored: :censored: That REALLY pissed me off and after a three week wait I finally got the brakes about 3.5 weeks after I ordered it. Not the end of the world, just hate being lied to. Regardless, I am very happy with the quality.

More to come!

[tones2SS]

Very cool. Looking good so far.:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Little Update...

Progress has been slow because I am planning for the wedding but also trying to continue to clean out the garage. Starting to get some of the ancillary tasks done in the mean time. Also trying to figure out how to swing buying the valvetrain and oil pump/pan. All in due time it would seem.

Anyways, today is I painted the short block I scored right near my house. LY6 with fly cuts already done. I am throwing stock L92s on her (assuming USPS ever delivers them!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: ) but nevertheless, she is looking nice!

Olds W-30 Bronze! Enjoy!

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[tones2SS]

Digging it Dave!:thumbsup:

[SS1156]

I am especially enjoying this thread. My first car was an all original 69 442 that I bought off the 2nd owner for $1000. Man I wish I still had that car, it even had the original Goodyear Polyglass F70/14 spare in the trunk that had never been on the ground. I remember that copper color, my 400 was the same color. Good luck with the build. Congrats on the upcoming wedding.

You gotta put this build up on the home built thread. This is gonna be good.

[BanditDave]

Got a few updates!

Just about got the front end buttoned up. Sway bar installed last week. Still need to install the steering box and steering linkage but that is only minor. Also built the rear with the CPP rear big brake kit. Everything looks great! Pics to come tomorrow.

Also picked up some engine goodies. I sold the original 74mm turbo I had because I believe I need to walk before I run. I picked up another turbo and wastegate combo...67mm turbo which should max out at around 700 hp without IAT issues with a decent intercooler. I am looking for a VERY drivable 600 flywheel horse. Got this baby today:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IntakeSetup.jpg

GMPP intake, Wilson Manifolds fuel rails, Edelbrock 90-deg elbow, injectors, and gaskets for a smokin' deal.

I will eventually upgrade the injectors but for now they will be good to start with.

More to come in the next few days!

Thanks,
Dave

[tones2SS]

Very nice Dave.:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Thanks man...picked up the trans, converter and cooler today! Finally building some steam again!

LOTS of pics tomorrow!

Dave

[BanditDave]

Got a nice update for today.

Here are some pics of everything I have been collecting over the last few weeks.

This is the GM Performance Parts intake with Edelbrock elbow, Wilson fuel rails and LS3 injectors resting on the engine.

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Here are the LS3 Rockers:

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Timing Cover:

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Built 4L60e with Converter and Cooler:

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JZ Motorworks Pan:

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Also finished assembling the rear brakes and pulled out the old rear...time to start cleaning and painting.

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More to come this week!!!

Dave

[tones2SS]

Good work Dave. Keep us posted.:thumbsup:

[LS1NOVA]

Great job so far! Your going to love that engine combo. That 60 wont last too long though.

[BanditDave]

Great job so far! Your going to love that engine combo. That 60 wont last too long though.

I went with a bit smaller turbo from what I originally showed in the thread. The main reason being is that I am still learning the whole FI process and knowing that my short block is only good for so much I wanted to make sure any turbo set-up I have maxes out before I grenade the engine. In this case the 67mm I replaced the 74mm with maxes out at about 650 to 700 hp before the IAT get out of control and a need a ridiculous intercooler. Right now I am shooting for 600 engine HP. I believe I will get there fairly easily and this thing will be like insta-spool! :thumbsup:

I mapped it for massive torque without crazy Rs and am hoping my combo pays off. Since it is still a T4 flange I can always go back to the biggun...but right now I'd rather be safe than sorry. I have also heard really good things about the LS9 cam in milder builds which I believe mine still falls under. I am not too worried right now on the transmission. The gentleman who built it races them exclusively and gave me the list of parts that was put in this thing and how it was prepped. He also backed it up with any and all support necessary should I have any problems. With dedication like that, how can I complain?!! :bow:

Currently I am limited by my injectors anyway, I just want to get started so mathematically I am just going test out 6lbs of boost...then go from there.

We'll see though. I can't wait till the day she fires up again on her own.

:cheers:

[mustangmanic67]

since you are going the turbo route, I would advise a evac catch can system on your motor. If you don't do it this way, when you are in boost you will be compressing the crankcase and forcing oil out wherever and you will pop the dipstick tube out. also, make sure your turbo return line doesn't leak. :D

[67ChevILL]

Dave,
Quick question, Am re-doing a 1967 cultass small block and am stuck on options on aftermarkert pulleys and brackets. Again, I dont see any other aftermarket brands except mondello performance that sells these olds stuff. What brackets are you using? orig? are there any other brands that sell what am looking for?
sorry to hi-jack this thread.

Again nice ride!

[BanditDave]

Dave,
Quick question, Am re-doing a 1967 cultass small block and am stuck on options on aftermarkert pulleys and brackets. Again, I dont see any other aftermarket brands except mondello performance that sells these olds stuff. What brackets are you using? orig? are there any other brands that sell what am looking for?
sorry to hi-jack this thread.

Again nice ride!

I believe Dick Miller Racing has a serpentine belt set-up but I think it is based off stock brackets. There is really nothing out there for SBOs but you can update with something like the G-body pulleys that look a little nicer than the older stuff. You could also use '77-'79 403 Olds Trans Am brackets and pulleys.

March only makes the BBOs set-up and I am not sure it could be adapted, but there is always a possibility.

[BanditDave]

Got an update for today...will have to snap some better pics real soon.

LS9 cam is installed as well as he heads and timing chain (with LS2 cam gear). Waiting on a couple things before I install the valley cover, PRs and rockers. Unfortunately I need to get the front accessory drive (with the balancer) before I can tighten down the timing cover and oil pan.

Waiting on a #10-AN bulkhead fitting for the Oil Pan. This will be my Turbo's return port. Want to get the accessory drive somewhat mocked up before I commit to where I am placing this thing. Want to make sure that there is sufficient clearance and as straight a shot for the drain back off the turbo.

Also received the Hotchkis tie rods and centerlink and am still waiting on my damn GM600 box from an Ebay vendor...when will I ever learn!?! :faint:

Ground down the rear UCA from BMR to work on the 12 Bolt...pretty typical so I wasn't surprised. Trying to get the rear installed by next weekend because I have a feeling I will be a little tied up...


GETTING MARRIED!!!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

More to come dudes!

[tones2SS]

Very cool Dave.
Congrats on your marriage!:cheers: :cheers:

[bonecrrusher]

Anything special on installing that LS9 cam?

I'm going with a something similar - Edelbrock tvs2300, CNC ported L92/LS3 heads.... was wondering if that's a cheap viable cam option.

[BanditDave]

Nope, I may need slightly different length pushrods but it is a 3 bolt cam so I got the LS2 cam gear and front cover. Everything else is a very nice drop in. I'll grab some pics for you tonight!

Dave

[deuce4935]

Little Update...

Progress has been slow because I am planning for the wedding but also trying to continue to clean out the garage. Starting to get some of the ancillary tasks done in the mean time. Also trying to figure out how to swing buying the valvetrain and oil pump/pan. All in due time it would seem.

Anyways, today is I painted the short block I scored right near my house. LY6 with fly cuts already done. I am throwing stock L92s on her (assuming USPS ever delivers them!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: ) but nevertheless, she is looking nice!

Olds W-30 Bronze! Enjoy!

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_6150.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_6151.jpg

Whats with the other Cutlass in the background, I've been looking for one of those(83-85) with t-tops and buckets.

[BanditDave]

Whats with the other Cutlass in the background, I've been looking for one of those(83-85) with t-tops and buckets.

Sorry about that...didn't know there was a reply here. That is my '84 Cutlass Supreme...my race car. Originally had a 403 Olds that ran 11.50s consistantly...someone bought that. Now, it is going to get a frame notch, pro-touring suspension and a Twin Turboed LS when the '69 442 is done. For now she sleeps and waits.

As for the '69, I will have a few updates in the next couple of days. Got a lot of stuff accomplished, I usually shutdown the car stuff over the winter and focus on my model railroading (I know...dork) but I am getting the bug again so I have a few presents on the way as well as the completed long block.

Stay tuned...

Here's a little taste:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/3253019.jpg

Just a little something for mock-up to shove under her. :thumbsup: 325 30-19s for $20...not bad. :cheers:

[tones2SS]

Very nice Dave.

[Jake616]

:thumbsup: I am really liking this build! Can't wait to see it completed! What were your plans for interior modifications?

Keep up the progress! :cheers:

[BanditDave]

:thumbsup: I am really liking this build! Can't wait to see it completed! What were your plans for interior modifications?

Keep up the progress! :cheers:

Because I opted for the large by huge wheel/tire combo, I will need to tweak the wheelwells a bit. Since I am going to be jacking with that anyway, I have a set of '04 - '06 GTO seats (front and back) that will be recovered to more appropriately display its new mark. I can play with the positioning of the rear seat a bit and modify as necessary. I am changing it to a Lokar floor shifter to more closely mimic a 4-speed stick car with no console. I want a clean look for the floor...just rug and shift boot. I may move on to an upgraded door panels but for now, cleaned up stockers are just fine.

My goal for this whole build is that I want subtle changes that may even go unnoticed. I am even considering running adapters on the L92 heads so I can run SBC valve covers and make them look like Olds valve covers.

More to come! Thanks for the compliments!

Dave

[BanditDave]

Made some very nice progress ovr the last few weeks. I will post a lot of pics tonight.

Rear is in as of last night. Underside detailing is complete. I had been at a crossroads for a while with regards to fuel cell vs. Ricks vs. sumped stocker and I am now pretty locked on the fuel cell for a number of reasons. The main reason is that while I give up trunk space, I gain a ton of room underneith to mount the fuel pumps as well as additional mufflers/resonators for the exhaust system. I am making some custom touches on the bumper and I want to make sure that there is plenty of room for the tails/mufflers. I want this thing as quiet as possible. Also, this thing will be going turbo eventually - onec I work out the bugs in my '84 race car. Putting the cell in the trunk just offers up so much more room as LS1NOVA proved in his build.

Also, long block is done and am waiting on Pace Performance's accessory drive so I can install the balancer, etc...and final torque the pan.

Picked up coils and brackets, HOWEVER, got screwed on an EBAY buy and now need L92/LS3 valve covers....AGAIN. If anyone has a pair for a reasonable price, let me know. I need the ones with clearance for offset rockers.

EZ EFI is on the way! Thanks Jake from JRS!

Pics to come! I shoudl have this thing on the road by summer...it won't be pretty but I don't care.

Goal for this iteration will be 11s first time down the track. Very doable in my opinion.

Thanks :lateral:
Dave

[BanditDave]

Here's some photos of the progress. Again...sorry for the mess. Trying to slowly throw things away i don't need...but I generally hold on to the until the last possible minute just in case I need it.

Anyway, on to the pics!

Here's another shot of the front suspension with complete steering...only thing left is to install the shocks

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8845.jpg

Complete Long block sans valve covers...kinda had an issue with the ones I got...they were misrepresented and I did not get better pics...oh well.

Without valve covers:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8848.jpg

With Driver's cover...passenger doesn't fit:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8863.jpg

Edelbrock adapters with PST mounts:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8851.jpg

Rear suspension installed minus sway bar - 12" rear brakes:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8852.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8854.jpg

Underside of trunk pan...going with trunk mounted fuel cell. I figure I will be eventually upping the power and needing a roll bar...plus it leaves me room for an additional set of muffs and easy fuel pump routing underneath - especially if I go E85 I can fit dual pumps with no issue. I also have room for the trans cooler back there.

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8855.jpg

Another front shot:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8860.jpg

And Bilstein shocks:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8861.jpg

Definitely a lot more to come this week. I should be getting my GMPP front accessory drive from Pace, as well as my EX EFI from Jake (JRS) and my Stainless Valve Covers which I purchased tonight. Also not pictured is my MSD 6012 box and harness.

This is what I am going for under the hood...just a lot less cluttered:

http://www.sportscargallery.com/images/69_Olds_442W30_burg4spd_eng1.jpg

I'm still all screwed up on wheel sizes at the moment as well as color. I am torn between Victory Red...(red rocket...duh) or BMW Sparkling Graphite Metallic with semi-gloss bumpers, trim, etc... I really think that will look sinister.

MORE TO COME!!!

[waynieZ]

It looks great.

[BanditDave]

It looks great.


Thanks man....appreciate it!

[tones2SS]

Looks awesome. Should make a big difference in handling for sure.:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

And for today's updates...

Finished buttoning up the bottom end and front cover...still waiting on my accessory drive from Pace Performance...its a very popular item so they are a little backordered.

Installed the new valve covers and coils as well as the Pacesetter Headers that I will be modding slightly for my build. Should work nicely.

Also made a sweet purchase from Luke Mau of L&H Kustoms - a complete Vaporworx tank pump and regulator set-up!!! I am VERY STOKED about this one as I plan of upping the power in the near future and won't have to do a darn thing to the fuel system.

On to the pics!

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8893.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8897.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8898.jpg

Different lighting shot:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8901.jpg

Shot from behind:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8907.jpg

No shots of the tank for a few more weeks. EZ-EFI should be here this week. More pics to come!!! Thanks!

Dave

[mrgm]

Looking nice ^_~

[tones2SS]

Looking good Dave.:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Few updates for today. Got the EZ EFI on Thursday...very excited!!!! Also got the engine and trans stabbed in for the first of many times this weekend. The PST urethane mounts are a real PITA to work with not to mention I have to trim some metal off the top of the 4L60e. Is there any other A-body guys out there that had that issue as well? I will take some pics of had to do tomorrow after it is done. I believe they are panhard bar mounts for the 4th Gen Fbody as that is what I got it from....what a pain in the arse.

Anyway, a pleasant surprise, 4th Gen Fbody headers will work well in an A body. I will have to redirect the pipe once out of the header but no big deal.

Enjoy the pics.

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8948.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8951.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8952.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8953.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8954.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8957.jpg

Thanks! :lateral:
Dave

[BanditDave]

Engine and transmission are officially in...wooohooo!!! Went in a lot easier than yesterday's debacle. Cut the panhard bar mounts off the top and made a world of difference!

Headers fit really well...they are 4th gen F-bodies right out of the box.

Enjoy the pics!

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8958.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8959.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8960.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8961.jpg

[mrgm]

just gets better and better

[BanditDave]

just gets better and better


Thanks man!!! After I built my TA I realized I didn't exactly have much of a vision for that car...this car is totally different for whatever reason. I know exactly what I want to do with it and am a LOT better controlling what I spend my money on...first go around I was a sloppy drunk...haha :cheers:

[ccracin]

Very, Very nice Dave. Hurry up and get that thing done, I want your feedback on the Vaporworx/EZ-EFI package. I'm getting jazzed just looking at your pictures!

:woot:

[BanditDave]

Very, Very nice Dave. Hurry up and get that thing done, I want your feedback on the Vaporworx/EZ-EFI package. I'm getting jazzed just looking at your pictures!

:woot:


Thanks dude! Thanks for your help the other day! I plan to have her running in a few weeks! She may not be rolling but she will be running dammit!!! :thumbsup:

[6D9]

Very cool!

[tones2SS]

Looks great Dave. Nice progress.:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Little update for ya...

Looks like I goofed and installed the wrong flexplate. Hey, it happens to the best of us, so the engine is back out again. Not the end of the world, just glad I noticed it before I did anything stupid...haha

And while I feel I took a small step backward, I did take two steps forward today! Decide to get a cheaper set of wheels for now because I just can see spending $3000 for a set of wheels that will enter a paint booth and I want to make sure they fit the car. I decided on the Boss 338s for now...with Rushforth Rated Xs coming in the not so distant future.

http://www.restorationperformance.com/catalog/boss-338.jpg

I also picked up a set of Nitto 555s to complete my rolling stock.

The FAST EZ TCU showed up yesterday as well so I am still moving in the right direction. Still a little bummed Pace hasn't delivered by accessory drive yet, but they are still making them...or so I have been told. Been close to 3 weeks since order, but what can I do...

Oh well, thanks! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Dave

[tones2SS]

Those wheels should look great on your car Dave.:yes:

[BanditDave]

Nice little update....SHE ROLLS!!!

Got her out of the garage for the first time in a over a year or so...definitely need to work on the camber...lol. But I am way overdue cleaning the garage. Gotta start getting some sheet metal on the front to get a feel if I need ot go lower on the front springs.

Still waiting on the tank and front accessory drive. Am going to start on wiring and body work in the next few days.

Enjoy...

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8990.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8991.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8992.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8993.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8994.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_8995.jpg

[mrgm]

looking good. nice to see that thing in the sun

[BanditDave]

I said the same thing...tongue in cheek. Once it got out in the sun I realized just how much more work I have left on her - bodywork, interior clean up, wiring...

I started the wiring this afternoon, but my truck and the '06 GTO (both in the above pictures) sprung a "change my oil" indicator...so that is what I am doing now. I must say...it is FRIGGIN' cold out there today!!! :faint: :willy: :(

[lhkustoms]

Dave, The car looks good. Youve made alot of progress only a little more to go. Hope you hold on to it.

BTW, whats your dream car that just popped up?

[fireflash]

Dave just read through the whole thread youve come a long way in short time.Drive lines looking great,ls is right at home keep the pictures coming!:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Thanks guys!

I probably will hold on to it because the Olds folks are a very fickle group of people.

As for my dream car...a friend of mine at work gave me this guys number who has an all original, totally complete '70 Ram Air III Trans Am. I took a look at it a while ago and periodically I check in on him to see if he still has it.

Well he finally named a price to me to get it and I almost crapped my pants.

It needs a little work but the care is as complete as I have ever seen. Interior is mint condition, engine is complete - shaker included - and all original.

I almost shed a tear when I saw it...LOL

Best part about it...it is not up for sale publicly...he said I am the only one that can have a crack at it because he doesn't have to get rid of it! :wow: :woot:

I figured I would jump on the opportunity before he changed his mind, but I am finding out that this car is a lot harder to get rid of than expected. So I will continue to work on the car, as I did today...if I don't sell it, I don't sell it. I really love this car. :thumbsup:

:cheers:
Dave

[BanditDave]

I did a bit of wiring last evening, but for some reason the pics didn't take, so I will post them tonight. Trying to get as clean an appearance as possible. Originally I was not going to put anything in the engine compartment but I believe that leaving the EZ-EFI and the MSD on separate sides of the engine compartment will give them the decent separation.

More pics to follow tonight...I am going to work some more on wiring and work on the camber as well. Can't believe I am actually starting to work on closing up some systems - ie completing them. :thumbsup:

More to come!

[BanditDave]

Hey Guys,

Small update...got some of the missing things I needed for my turbo set-up so i am actually skipping NA completely and this engine is going back to being a turbo build....lol.

That being said, the EZ EFI is up for sale in the parts section for a very fair price.

Thanks!
Dave

[64pontiac]

Killer project Dave! I am diggin the turbo setup....... can't wait to see how that turns out!

Keep me in the loop!

[mrgm]

i too am diggin the sound of the turbo.

[BanditDave]

Ok guys...

Small update...more of a venting update. :mad:

I wish people would know what they had before they put it up for sale. I was supposed to be purchasing some needed parts for my turbo build - wastegate, intercooler and a couple misc. things. I show up and literally everything the guy had was wrong (at least not what he advertised...WTF!!!:rolleyes: ) Wastegate was too small, intercooler was the wrong core thickness...I mean this is measuring things for cryin' out loud! :faint:

So basically I am on hold with selling the EZ EFI...and honestly will probably just keep it right now. I had a plan for the first phase of this car and I want to stick to it. I wavered a ton on my last build and wasted a ton of money. This go around I have a plan and have been really good with sticking to it as of now.

BTW, I upgraded my Vaporworx tank to the CTS-V pump so I'll be able to bring on the BOOST baby...that is when I collect enough parts...haha.

I think I am saving more for one of Tyler's (HPI) frames right now...:bow:

Lot more to come this weekend! Sorry for the rant...sometimes good deals are just too good to be true. :_paranoid

Thanks,
Dave

[badbu68]

Very cool!

[mrgm]

too bad about the turbo parts :( .

atleast things are still moving. :thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Very cool!

Thanks man!! Appreciate it!

too bad about the turbo parts :( .

atleast things are still moving. :thumbsup:

Yea I know...something just seemed weird about it...like literally the starts were aligning for me...:rofl: until I walked into his garage and knew something was up right when I saw the intercooler..."I was like hmmm...that looks awfully thin..." Now granted I have heard that phrase daily from my wife....I mean...ugh....just playin'...but yea, turned out to be too good to be true. That's ok, motor should still make over 500 horse flywheel and be good for 11s. That is plenty for now.

I have been holding off on the full cage because I am going to eventually migrate to one of Tyler's chassis. To me, it makes no sense to spend the big $$$ for are nice cage, only to have to cut it out. :faint:

Anyhow, there will be more picture updates this weekend!

Thanks :lateral:
Dave

[BanditDave]

Been a while since an update....should have more for this coming week. Finally got a Corvette Accessory Drive form a company called Nook and Tranny...they are an Ebay vendor and were VERY helpful...pieced together the exact kit Pace Performance was offering (but NEVER delivered) at a competitive price.

Anyways, I have been doing a lot of wiring and will be doing some body work as well in the next few weeks. Hope to have her running within a month...trying to keep my credit cards in check...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I changed the valve covers to stock LS3 style ones so that I could clear the drive and I could paint them W30 bronze...gives it a stealthier look.

Here's some shots of the accessory drive installed.

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9050.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9049.jpg

I also recently acquired a 2.5" X pipe system from Magnaflow that should look and sound awesome.

More pics to come shortly!
Dave

[Tom.A]

Looks good. It is hard to tell from the angle but does it look like the power steering line in going to fit? I had to run a smaller pulley on the vette acces. to clear.

[mrgm]

that looks great. :unibrow:

[BanditDave]

Looks good. It is hard to tell from the angle but does it look like the power steering line in going to fit? I had to run a smaller pulley on the vette acces. to clear.

It will fit, not going to be the prettiest route to get there so I may actually have a bent hardline for a large portion of it with just a small section of flex to force it in the direction I need.

that looks great. :unibrow:

Thanks man!!! :thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Well...yet another slight change in directions and back with the original plan...

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/attachments/turbo-v8-conversions/22806d1170191832-whats-good-single-turbo-will-service-350-s475.jpg


http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IntakeSetup.jpg

BW S475 Turbo, large turbine, GMPP Single Plane intake with Edelbrock low-profile elbow...

Also got a Lingenfelter 100mm MAF and 58x/24x reluctor conversion box coming as well as a PSI conversion harness and a 90mm Edelbrock Throttle Body.

HUGE thanks to Jon at PSI conversion...RIDICULOUS service and aims to please. Hooked me up with solid discounts and called my azz Sunday morning to square things away. Are you kidding me!??! :cheers::cheers::cheers:

More pics to come soon.

[56pickup]

Awesome Project!

[BanditDave]

Thanks brother...diggin' your Ford...love the oddballs! :cheers:

[mrgm]

:) That turbo makes me smile

[BanditDave]

Makes me smile a lot as well!!! :unibrow: :unibrow: :unibrow:

[56pickup]

Thanks brother...diggin' your Ford...love the oddballs! :cheers:

Thank you sir! Cant wait to see your car done! my dad had one back in the day :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Good to hear that things are going in the right direction. Should be a killer power plant!:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Should be a killer power plant!:thumbsup:

Thanks dude...a transmission killer a rear killer and tire killer...lol

Hey that's hot roddin'! :rofl:

['02ta]

Thanks dude...a transmission killer a rear killer and tire killer...lol

Hey that's hot roddin'! :rofl:

I always say your not having fun unless you're breaking something!! :willy:

Car looks awesome Dave and that powerplant is going to be wicked. Nice job

Regards,
Ryan

[waynieZ]

Thats some sweet parts you got there.

[tones2SS]

Thanks dude...a transmission killer a rear killer and tire killer...lol

Hey that's hot roddin'! :rofl:

HA HA!!:rofl: :rofl:
Have fun and keep us posted.:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

Received my PSI Conversion harness last night and the turbo is on its way to my house.

Swapped out the intake for the correct one and plan on drilling the pan for the return line (WHIEL IT IS STILL IN THE CAR) this week...

Lots of pics to come!

Dave

[waynieZ]

I'll be watching, I love pictures.

[BanditDave]

As promised...here are the pics and some discriptions. I still need to take a few of the PSI Conversion harness but this will wet your whistle...

This is a shot with the new intake installed. I am not thrilled with the purple fuel rails but they will do for now. Currently has LS3 42lb injectors right now...that will also change since it won't be enough. Also shows the two manifolds I plan to use - one driver's side truck manny flipped and a driver's side Fbody manny.

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9073.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9077.jpg

Next couple shots show the clearance on the truck manifold on the passenger side...its about a 1/4". I am thinking I will still pull the motor...again :faint: ...because I have to drill and tap the pan for the return fitting of the turbo. Driver's side F-body Manifold fits perfectly. I am still not 100% sure if I am going to bring the crossover under the pan between the sump and crossmember or back further under the bellhousing.

Passenger Manifold (Truck)

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9086.jpg

Driver's Manifold (F-body)

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9080.jpg

Crossover Clearance between Sump and Crossmember

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9081.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9071.jpg

Where I plan to put the return fitting for the turbo (I am thinking I may overfiill the pan with oil and let the positive pressure push the chips back out the pan...also work with the grease on the bit method.) This is just left of the balancer when viewed from the front.

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9083.jpg

More to come...:lateral:

[waynieZ]

Its lookin good! I like the intake elbow Do they list the flow numbers for it?

[BanditDave]

Its lookin good! I like the intake elbow Do they list the flow numbers for it?

Honestly I am not sure...I will check tonight when I get home.

[mrgm]

i had seen this a couple days ago at the magazine store

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/hrdp_1104_594hp_53l_gen_iii_small_block_for_3252/index.html

[BanditDave]

i had seen this a couple days ago at the magazine store

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/hrdp_1104_594hp_53l_gen_iii_small_block_for_3252/index.html

LOL...where do you think I got the idea to drill the pan on the car? :unibrow: :lol:

But honestly I'll lose a day or two if I properly yank the thing and drill the pan off the car...probably what I will do. I have been working ridiculous hours lately so I am pretty beat lately and haven't been making the progress I have been wanting. Oh well..that's life I guess!

[BanditDave]

Something showed up today....give you a couple guesses what it was...

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9089.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9091.jpg

More to come!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[mrgm]

how exciting! :unibrow:

[waynieZ]

Sweet !

[70rs]

You got a new cat? ;)

Cool project!

[BanditDave]

You got a new cat? ;)

Cool project!

You know it...and the bastid steals my beer!!! :wow:

More updates to come today! I welded up the passenger manifold and added a flange to bolt the midpipe to. Harness has been laid in and ordered a TON of pipe!

[BanditDave]

More updates...moving right along.

Here's a couple shots of the PSI harness laid in. Fits and looks fantastic!

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9139.jpg

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Here's some shots of the manifold I reworked this weekend to redirect the connecting flange so that it is more easily accessible and has the O2 sensor bung. So I basically did a "flange swap". Sliced and cleaned up the manifold and connecting portion and sealed the deal.

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9129.jpg

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These guys when finished along with the mid and downpipe will be Black JETHOT coated. I am going to clean up the manifolds a little before I send them out because while I am happy with the welds, I am a little unhappy with their appearance. I did, however, want to make sure I got enough heat in them because I have a huge heatsink on one side and small pipe on the other.

These next shots show where the mid-pipe from the driver's side will go to keep it up near the frame but minimize the length disparity between passenger and driver's side feedpipes.

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9138.jpg

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9136.jpg

Finally, its Christmas Monday! Jon form PSI got me a real nice deal on a Lingenfelter 100mm MAF and the Lingenfelter Reluctor conversion box...oh yea and he shot me a reflashed PCM so I can get this pig growling sooner!

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9102.jpg

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More to come!!! Thanks!
Dave

[mrgm]

what do you think the weight diffrence between the drivetrains will be?

[BanditDave]

what do you think the weight diffrence between the drivetrains will be?

Honestly, I don't think there will be much difference because I am adding the weight of the turbo and all the extra piping and intercooler way up front.

Before it would have just been a small block Olds and a TH350...which didn't really way all that much as is...

Ultimately I think the weight change is going to be negligable...not too worried about it cause I am just going to crank up the "go juice" if she feels a little heavy!

(I am going to make it worth picking up all those pieces of trans afterwards!!! :woot: )

[tones2SS]

Looks great Dave. Keep up the great work.

[BanditDave]

Looks great Dave. Keep up the great work.

Thanks man...


Upon further review I realized something today...I REALLY hate the way the manifold looks...everything I am doing on this build is supposed to be exactly how I want it and I compromised with the passenger side. I went out and literally stared at it like a moron for 10 straight minutes and said nothing.

I then walked into the house got onto the computer and ordered this:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h232/rackerman62583/Nova%20ls1%20conversion/photo6-1.jpg

A Speedway Motors LS1 header kit...I didn't like the fact I couldn't bring the midpipe around front of the motor with manifolds and didn't like the way the C6 manis looked flipped. SOOOO...this will be at my door shortly and I will have headers by this weekend ('cause I accidentally took off from work Friday!!!:woot: )

They will look a lot like this when they are done:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h232/rackerman62583/Nova%20ls1%20conversion/photo4-2.jpg

My midpipe will be shaped a little differently, however.

Lots more to come!
Dave

[56pickup]

looking great dave! i think the new tube headers will look much better!

[BanditDave]

looking great dave! i think the new tube headers will look much better!

Thanks Ty, loving your build! I agree the tube headers will look better, just a little concerned with them cracking but honestly for the $189 they charge and a little of my time...fine, they crack I will send them off to someone to replicate in stainless.......or just buy myself a Tig and do it myself! :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Upon further review I realized something today...I REALLY hate the way the manifold looks...everything I am doing on this build is supposed to be exactly how I want it and I compromised with the passenger side. I went out and literally stared at it like a moron for 10 straight minutes and said nothing.

I then walked into the house got onto the computer and ordered this:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h232/rackerman62583/Nova%20ls1%20conversion/photo6-1.jpg

They will look a lot like this when they are done:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h232/rackerman62583/Nova%20ls1%20conversion/photo4-2.jpg

Good call Dave. Don't compromise, because you'll end up kicking yourself later. (I'm one of those people that have to have it all or nothing.:faint: ) Good luck man!:thumbsup:

[BanditDave]

All righty! Got some updates for ya! After several days of mocking up the tubular headers I found I just couldn't get everything to fit properly in the engine compartment and not risk burning the inner wheel wells. I decided to go back to the truck manifold and the Fbody Manifold - a lot less risk of cracking and I have made some excellent progress this weekend.

I made the passenger intermediate pipe and began the driver's side mid-pipe...I am a little further ahead than what the pictures show but this gives you a good idea what I am talking about...

These pics show the passenger side midpipe leading up to the fully-divided T6 flange. I will be taking two smaller sizes tubes off each pipe for the wastegate soon.

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9190.jpg

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More to come soon!
Dave

[56pickup]

Great progress dave! Glad to see you getting things done! :thumbsup:

[mrgm]

looks bigger under the hood.

[BanditDave]

looks bigger under the hood.

You ain't kidding!!! When I finally lugged the thing over to the engine compartment and started mocking it up I was a little concerned I was going to have enough room. Once I got everything in place I was a little less worried. I will still need to add a bit of bracing to support the hulk of a turbo though...lot of weight hanging up there.

[tones2SS]

Looks great Dave.

[BanditDave]

Looks great Dave.

Thanks dude...taking a little break tonight to let the hands heal a bit...making the round tubing fit a square opening in the T6 flange does a number on your hands. I got some serious calluses!!! :faint:

[tones2SS]

Thanks dude...taking a little break tonight to let the hands heal a bit...making the round tubing fit a square opening in the T6 flange does a number on your hands. I got some serious calluses!!! :faint:

Sometimes a break is good for the mind and the "drive" to finish as well. :unibrow:
Keep us posted.

[BanditDave]

Been a while since an update...definitely been busy with work and my grandmother's health has taken a turn for the worse so there hasn't been much time to play.

Anyhow, I got out to the garage this afternoon and got back to work on the midpipe and basically finished the crossover pipe from the driver's side. Lots of twists and bend and while I am not totally happy with it, it isn't bad for my first attempt at it. I really need to invest in some better cutting tools so I can get cleaner cuts...........and maybe a TIG. :unibrow:

What I got left:

- Intercooler and coldside piping
- Need to get a ministarter
- Bigger injectors
- Finish wiring
- Driveshaft
- Downpipe fabrication
- Wastegate and BOV purchasing and fabrication - currently going with two Tial 38mm but I am not sure I will have the room for both of them, would like to keep them fully divided.
- Throttle Body purchasing and possibly a slightly less angled Intake Elbow to bring the intake over the driver's side valve cover...will give me room for WGs in front of engine.
- Finish exhaust
- Install Vaporworx tank and plumb fuel system....

Dayum....lot more to do now that i wrote it down...lol :faint:

Anyway...here's some pics...

Here's the crossover pipe from the driver's side manny and the route it takes to get there. It will be ceramic coated and wrapped.

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9270.jpg

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More to come soon!!!

[mrgm]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

hope your grandmother gets better. The car seems to be pulling together well

[tones2SS]

Good work Dave.

[BanditDave]

Thanks bud...shoudl be getting the Vaporworx tank soon and will be taking the hotside piping over to the coaters...maybe as soon as tomorrow.

['02ta]

Looking real good Dave :cool: Keep up the good work Dave

Regards,
Ryan