Ready for my front subframe

[clay69camaro]

I've got a 69 Camaro. I purchased a wayne dues front sub a while ago and I'm ready to put it in. I need to buy some new body mount bushings. The car will be at the track for most of it's life when It's built. Any suggestions or warnings? It will most likely see some regular driving around the town... but not much lol.

[itsals1]

Get rid of that sub! Many people have had trouble with them, they are very week. I sold mine C5 a month after Wayne closed shop, if you don't sell it please add in some extra support for your safety.

Travis

[Teetoe_Jones]

Don't use a 1/2 drop body bushing. Go DSE or Global West or Speed Tech standard height with some new bolts.

Tyler

[BMR Tech]

I've got a 69 Camaro. I purchased a wayne dues front sub a while ago and I'm ready to put it in. I need to buy some new body mount bushings. The car will be at the track for most of it's life when It's built. Any suggestions or warnings? It will most likely see some regular driving around the town... but not much lol.

We have a brand new alternative to polyurethane, rubber, and aluminum body mount bushings. Our new Delrin body mount bushings (BMB001) are now available and ready for sale. This is an ideal alternative to squeaky polyurethane or corrosion-prone aluminum. They are stock height and ship with new Grade 8 mounting hardware.

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/1F/BMB001_MED.jpg

[clay69camaro]

I kinda spent a good chunk of change of the wayne dues front sub. It's got the C4 parts on it. I looked around before I bought it, and lots of reviews were good, everyone talked about how much of a genius he was.

[ProdigyCustoms]

I kinda spent a good chunk of change of the wayne dues front sub. It's got the C4 parts on it. I looked around before I bought it, and lots of reviews were good, everyone talked about how much of a genius he was.


Not so much. Some of them, depending on which verision they are need a LOT of work to get them close. And others need more work. We have worked on a few of them and in the end they are better but still very lacking.

The biggest problem is your working with a suspension system that was designed for the engine to sit BEHIND the rack, which is not possible in a C4 set up in a Camaro. So rack position to control arm position is bad at best.

[lil427z]

can you post some pic.
rick k:thumbsup:

[ProdigyCustoms]

I tried to forget it all, I surely did not take pics, LOL!

Steevo did it too, i think he has some pics.

[Ventura]

Whats the deal with not using the dropped body bushings? Interference somewhere or?

[clay69camaro]

so basically I've got to find someone who really wants this front sub, or someone like me who will just think they are getting a sweet deal. :( this sucks.

[Ron in SoCal]

Whats the deal with not using the dropped body bushings? Interference somewhere or?

Two issues I have seen, although some vendors will tell you their product is not affected by half height body bushings (and they could be correct):

1 - Trans tunnel/crossmemeber issue. Using lower height body bushings makes the body sit closer with less space between the frame. You may or may not have this problem, but a larger trans like a t56 may hit the trans tunnel. Ask Todd and Tyler about this one.
2 - Possible inner fender clearance w 275+ tires. Lower body = closer tolerances when suspension compresses.

There's prob more, but that's all I've seen documented. I wanted half height bushings, but a couple of gurus talked me out of it...

[awr68]

Two issues I have seen, although some vendors will tell you their product is not affected by half height body bushings (and they could be correct):

1 - Trans tunnel/crossmemeber issue. Using lower height body bushings makes the body sit closer with less space between the frame. You may or may not have this problem, but a larger trans like a t56 may hit the trans tunnel. Ask Todd and Tyler about this one.
2 - Possible inner fender clearance w 275+ tires. Lower body = closer tolerances when suspension compresses.

There's prob more, but that's all I've seen documented. I wanted half height bushings, but a couple of gurus talked me out of it...

Nailed it! Ben there done that! Atleast as far as the T56 goes...I had to raise the trans tunnel .75" :yes:

[clay69camaro]

I'm stickin with the WD subframe.

Undecided on the body mount bushing but thank you everyone for the input. I was actually thinking about the body drop aluminum ones before all this, not anymore though haha.
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