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Jeff68
04-29-2010, 07:06 AM
Ready for some rims and tires. Narrowed to the Foose Legend, Boss 338, Newgen Dominators with gun metal centers. If some of you could go back, would you save a little more to buy the better rims? If you bought the cheaper ones how long til you upgraded? Or, are you happy with you choice?
Thanks Jeff

DocJr
04-29-2010, 07:17 AM
Style wise I would go with the Fooses.. they're very similar to the Boss, but I like Fooses recessed lugs. That NewGen seems too flat in my opinion, it needs a profile.

It seems you want more than stylistic opinions though, can't help you out there! LOL

JustinB
04-29-2010, 09:56 AM
Jeff, Dominator without a doubt. 6061 Billet compared to cast 1 piece. If the budget allows it, go with billet.

buickfunnycar.com
04-29-2010, 03:35 PM
Jeff, Dominator without a doubt. 6061 Billet compared to cast 1 piece. If the budget allows it, go with billet.

US-forged wheel versus off-shore cast wheel...you do get what you pay for.:yes:

BlackenedRR
04-29-2010, 05:22 PM
I just bought some BOSS 338s for my GMC, but only, and I mean ONLY, because I got them brand new for under $700. If they had been more expensive, I would have waited and bought billet wheels instead.

DocJr
04-29-2010, 07:15 PM
Looks like Im being out-voted haha

So with that said, someone should take me to school...

I know forged is stronger right? tighter moleculer structure. Is it lighter? What's a lighter wheel do for performance?

Price differences? From what Im reading on previous posts and a few posts on protouring...Its about the same? 1500$ for a set of Fooses, 400 each for the Newgens.

US Forged, off-shore Cast? What's that mean?

Im not trying to start anything, if it sounds like it lol I just want to be educated, gimme some specs, numbers, technicalities, Im eager lol

Jeff68
04-29-2010, 07:35 PM
Made here in the USA vs. or some where else. I wish this mattered more to us.
Anyway, I have a new leader. These will be going on a 68 chevelle,light silver w/ blk. stripes. Probably the original SS stripes down the side. These super spokes with the Blk. centers are killing me.
Thanks for the input, Jeff

buickfunnycar.com
04-29-2010, 09:29 PM
Made here in the USA vs. or some where else. I wish this mattered more to us...

Matters to me...damn skippy.I know I have very little control about offshore content in my car but when I do,I always specify US-made parts whenever possible.Hence the fact I sold all my off-shore wheels and now only run American-forged wheels on my American-made cars.:thumbsup:

DocJr,

Forget metal,structure,weight,or price...

Biggest thing I would consider if I were you would be the stance and the overall look you're trying to achieve...that should be first,foremost and paramount in your decision making.

Without proper stance and wheels,you have nothing...regardless of what caliber of car you have.

That being said,you will never achieve that killer fat lip-look with the off-shore wheels you mentioned because they A) do not offer proper widths for our cars and B) they don't offer custom backspacing to set the wheel where you want to...to acheive that look you want.

Plan and simple.Do you want the look...or do you just want to settle...based on price?

Save a little longer if need be,deal with someone reputable and experienced like Jon Henson @ www.driverzinc.com and you'll never,ever regret your purchase and take that from someone who has purchased a set or two...:willy:

DocJr
04-29-2010, 10:33 PM
LOL

That's not the answere I was looking for. I was hoping it would be all about the tech, pricing an what not...Im all about the look, not the rest haha

That being said, the "Look" is all opinion based, it always will be.

Granted... custom widths, BS, caliper spacing, and everything else is understood. But to actually say what looks good is all opinion based. The owner is the only person that needs pleased. Coming from a designer standpoint, the Dominator doesnt work well with a '68 Chevelle. Flat, angular, and edgy wheel centers on a curvy subtle edged car.

I'm all for the fat lip, I prefer the Mickey Thompson Sportsman SR look (Modern Pro Street) 20x15. But the wheel centers have to go well with the car's forms. Once again, thats my opinion! haha

I love this haha
Thanks for the discussion!

DocJr
04-29-2010, 10:39 PM
Oh, something else, this offshore talk.

MHT makes Foose wheels, they're American right? Boss is American I checked their site.

That talk is what's not making any sense to me, he gave us 3 wheesl lol Foose, Boss, NewGen, all are American made.

ProdigyCustoms
04-30-2010, 05:40 AM
My 2 pennies.

I am in 2 piece billet or 3 piece wheel guy. But I usually put a 2 or 3 piece wheel budget into my builds from the get go. With that said, there are 100s of 1000s of cast wheels out there for 40 years and they hold up just fine. Yes they most often come from overseas! Yes I like to buy American when I can.

We sell a lot of wheels. I do not sell many cast wheels because quite honestly they are usually distributed by companies buying container loads at pricing we cannot touch. I once complained to a very large wheel company about pricing and there answer was simple. Can I interest you in a full container! 640 wheels! You will be amazed how cheap they get! There was a company at SEMA 2 years ago selling container loads of Off Brand and Knock Off wheels for $40,000 per container, you do the math, $40,000 divided by 640 wheels, $62.50 per wheels for 20s and 22s! And they were Chrome which cost us $400 a set to chrome wheels! These are the wheels you see on E bay all the time.

So with my foot bullet loaded, and truth in advertising prevailing...........I have to admit there are some things many of the cast wheels have standard that are very expensive options on 2 piece wheels. Like to duplicate the multi dimension machining on a 2 billet wheels is much more time consuming and expensive then a cast wheels. And for the particular wheels you are considering, they come chrome or black standard which are $150 to $400 options on 2 piece wheels. So apple to apples in the finish you want. If you add the cost difference of a 2 piece billet wheel and add the finishes, your most likely looking at a $1000+ difference, maybe a 100% difference. And not everyone can pony up the cost difference.

That's why there are SO MANY cast wheels around.

Like I said, I think the wheels make the car. So I insert a 2 or 3 piece budget into the project plan from the start. But if you ain't got the dough, no one should to look down their nose at you if you do a cast production wheel.

buickfunnycar.com
04-30-2010, 07:28 AM
I tried making suggestions Doc,but you obviously know it all though.:yes: so best of luck to you.

DocJr
04-30-2010, 08:27 AM
I never said that.

I'm only 22, still wet behind the years if you will. I don't claim to know anything and everything. Just like you and others, I'm throwing out valid points.

My degree in Industrial Design means nothing, I understand this. To the be the best you have to learn, Im doing just that. Still...Style is all opinion based.

Best of luck? thanks.

Teetoe_Jones
05-05-2010, 02:11 PM
I just bought some BOSS 338s for my GMC, but only, and I mean ONLY, because I got them brand new for under $700. If they had been more expensive, I would have waited and bought billet wheels instead.

sorry to thread jack, but Jeff, clear your PM box.

Tyler

64impala
04-08-2011, 07:14 PM
Matters to me...damn skippy.I know I have very little control about offshore content in my car but when I do,I always specify US-made parts whenever possible.Hence the fact I sold all my off-shore wheels and now only run American-forged wheels on my American-made cars.:thumbsup:

DocJr,

Forget metal,structure,weight,or price...

Biggest thing I would consider if I were you would be the stance and the overall look you're trying to achieve...that should be first,foremost and paramount in your decision making.

Without proper stance and wheels,you have nothing...regardless of what caliber of car you have.

That being said,you will never achieve that killer fat lip-look with the off-shore wheels you mentioned because they A) do not offer proper widths for our cars and B) they don't offer custom backspacing to set the wheel where you want to...to acheive that look you want.

Plan and simple.Do you want the look...or do you just want to settle...based on price?

Save a little longer if need be,deal with someone reputable and experienced like Jon Henson @ www.driverzinc.com and you'll never,ever regret your purchase and take that from someone who has purchased a set or two...:willy:

X2 Great point!!!!!:thumbsup: