Reviews of Companies and People you have done Business with. [Archive]

tyoneal

04-17-2010, 02:02 AM

Hello:

In and effort to help keep people keep from getting ripped off:

Are their any Companies on Lateral-g, or Pro-touring.com who you would recommend doing or NOT doing business with?

I have used several advertisers on these two sites, and had a really great business experience with all of them so far.

If you have had positive or Negative experiences with some, who were they, and what did they do for you, or to you? (Please elaborate)

Please mention the Companies at the Front of your Review so people searching for a specific company can find them easily.

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These are the Companies I have had experience with and will be reviewing.

Twist Machine
Detroit Speed and Engineering
Group Purchase @ Lateral-g
ATS/Speed Tech Performance

Twist Machine: Ordered a Street Fighter Spoiler. It looked great, was shipped promptly, and Steve was very nice to answer some further questions about his products, and just some additional questions I had about Pro-Touring Cars.

I would definitely Recommend Him and his Products.
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Detroit Speed: I ordered a ton of items from them. They were polite, and everything arrived in good shape.

I would certainly recommend them, and someday I would like to meet them as well, hopefully at an event sometime in the future.
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Group Purchase: Frank and his family have always done a nice job getting everything I wanted, and when I was in a pinch, Frank took the time to get the parts in needed extra fast. He is always busy, and still finds time to squeeze in a call as soon as he can.

I would certainly do business with him again.
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ATS, Now Speed Tech Performance: I ordered parts from Tyler when he was with ATS and his products are terrific. He had them as soon as he could (The Spindles were Backordered) and was very helpful with his advise.

I also, bought the "Coil Over" Kit, the Penske Shocks, and the "Lee Steering Box". All the products are first rate.

Since then, Speed Tech has acquired ATS. I haven't bought any of their products yet, however I wouldn't hesitate to do so, as I know of a number of people have, and as far as I know have had a very nice experience with their service and parts. I have visited with the staff at Speed Tech and have found them to be knowledgeable and helpful.

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them to anyone looking for the products they sell.
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I would certainly mention if someone here, or at PT have been Jerks or have ripped me off. I wouldn't want for someone to innocently get screwed by them and further, I wouldn't want a crook to get a damn dime.

I hope others will take the time to add to this link. Money is tough to come by, and you certainly don't want to lose it because you accidently walked into a trap.

I hope this has been Helpful, If you can think how to improve this please mention it.

Best Regards,

Ty O'Neal

camcojb

04-17-2010, 10:27 AM

I like the idea of this, but can also see how it can turn into a bash fest. Let's get Scotts view before we go further.

Many boards don't allow vendor bashing (including this one) so maybe we can come up with a way to do this that will work. It would be great info. I'm closing it temporarily until I can talk to Scott.

Jody

XcYZ

04-17-2010, 01:26 PM

I too like this idea, it's something that has been discussed many times. There are plenty of positives, but there are also negatives. Protecting people from bad businesses is a good idea, but how do we differentiate between bad business and someone who thinks they got screwed and just wants to burn a business by giving false accusations and half-truths. I think we all know that there are 3 sides to every story. lol

Here's an idea that I'll just throw out there for debate/discussion. What if we had feedback system that was universal, like grading A through F on many aspects of a transaction. Say, pre-sale communication and education, turn around time, quality of product/service, value of product/service, after the sale communication/support, dispute resolution, etc, etc. These universals could be applied to every transaction and could be followed up with a summation of the experience. I would then close the thread. Any follow up discussion about it could be started in the Open Discussion and linked back to the Business Review thread. It would keep the Reviews VERY easy to follow and search.

I simply don't want a bash fest. If this is a direction we, as a community, want to go, it should be productive. One of my biggest pet peaves about the internet is when someone has a question or problem and they just jump in with both feet making accustions when they NEVER even called the business to ask about the problem first. It's happened here many times and I've seen on every automotive Forum that I'm on.

What do you guys think about a graded feedback system? :cheers:

Bow Tie 67

04-17-2010, 01:37 PM

I like the idea. :thumbsup:

rjsjea

04-17-2010, 01:41 PM

I like the idea. :thumbsup:

X2!....

camcojb

04-17-2010, 01:42 PM

sounds good to me. Worst case we wouldn't be able to continue it if things got out of control, but wouldn't hurt to try.

Jody

DOOM

04-17-2010, 01:43 PM

Great idea!:lateral:

speedshftr

04-17-2010, 01:48 PM

id say belair bobs was the best parts supplier id ever delt with.great price super fast shipping and willing to answer questions ,send pics ect.:thumbsup:

ironworks

04-17-2010, 02:57 PM

I think consumer education is more important then a rating system. Look at Ebay with the most indepth rating system on the internet. Buyer and seller feedback and so on. Shoot even Paypal is supposed to get your money back I guess. But how many people actually trust buying stuff off Ebay?

If you educate people as to how things work and show them what Quality is. It might help. But you also need to educate shops on bad customers who tell lies and change their story on a regular basis.

The reason I like this site is it is kinda like Disneyland. Reality kinda stops for the brief moment your on here. I don't like a lot of other sites because there is so much bashing that really solves nothing. Plus I don't understand how it is a moderators job to deal with a slow vendor or sponsor. They just sell the advertising to the vendor. Do you contact a magazine editor to help you sort out picking the wrong builder? Or go after the TV station that advertised the "SHAMWOW"?

I think the comment that just because some one is in the magazine makes there work or their product good. No it makes it "FREE". This is not consumer reports.

DB Z28

04-17-2010, 03:12 PM

Ill start so far one of the best for service and products hands down is Ricks tanks very nicely made tanks and Hector is great and I,m sure we all agree on that ,That bought a tank from him.
Other include
Wegner motorsports
Paul at hydratech
Detroit Speed
Anvil
Schwartz Performance
Ringbrothers

ArisESQ

04-17-2010, 04:08 PM

Pacific Fabrication

Location; Morgan Hill, CA

Installed DSE minitubs, custom roll bar, and quadralink

I'd definitely do business with them again. Kevin Stearns (owner and fabricator) is a stand up guy, and was straight forward and honest about everything from the start. Gave me a very reasonable estimate and stuck to it. On top of that, I was very satisfied with the quality of his work, and how quickly he was able to get the job done.

:thumbsup:

http://www.pacificfab.net/aris-camaro.htm#1

ArisESQ

04-17-2010, 04:10 PM

Oh, and DSE is always good. Probably some of the best customer service anywhere, in ANY industry.

DRJDVM's '69

04-17-2010, 04:27 PM

The "rating system" is going to be really tough....and in my opinion starts this site into a path where it should tread very carefully....and in my opinion probably avoid.

Look at Ebay....Amazon etc...probably the most extensive "rating systems" out there. Pleny of really crappy companies work the system and get good rating....plenty of good companies get bashed by some whack job with a vendetta. As a company its really hard to defend yourself against someone that is out to nail you even when you didnt do anything wrong. On Amazon...pull up some common piece of equipment, computer program etc etc..... you will see reviews that are "the most fantastic thing ever"....and the EXACT same item will have reviews that say it was the "worst product ever".....with the EXACT same item??? How can the reviews be so far apart?

3 sides to the story..... you had better believe it.....

The way I see the companies and vendors that are on here.....as good "lead" or "heads up" to some of the stuff thats available out there....but ultimately its up to the consumer to check them out. Ask around.......

Maybe only have it for the sponsoring vendors...basically if the site is going to be affiliated with your company it will be held to a certain standard. Something like the Ebay "star rating" for communication, shipping, quality of product etc etc

I dont know....sounds good on paper and probably worth a try....but I fear how this site is going to get dragged into seeming like its acting like a vendor promotion or bashing site.

Vegas69

04-17-2010, 05:00 PM

I'd also scrap the idea. You guys will be busy editing threads when you could be enjoying your kids or a beer. I'd look at a sticky or similar with advice for new or inexperienced guys. Encourage them to be active on the boards and look to some veterans around here for guidance.

DFRESH

04-17-2010, 05:11 PM

Scott--it sounds like a good idea, but I would rather see folks using the PM feature to check in with others when they are serious about making a purchase and have questions. I've done it this way--it's how I got to know Todd and many others--I see the products they have on their cars, and when I get close to buying, I check in with them to see if they like the part, had good success with the vendor, etc. Keeps the forum clean and headed in the right direction. You have one of the very best sites going here---if it makes it better by having the reviews of vendors, so be it.

Doug

killer67

04-17-2010, 07:55 PM

Scott:

What about a dedicated/moderated section on the Forum home page called, "Sponsor/Member Feedback" That way it is all in one place and can be carefully watched to distinguish between impatient/complicated customers AND shops that have genuinely screwed people out of money. Just another thought. Roger makes a good point that there is less nagging on this forum than others, and more "meat" and stuff we all want to read and see.:)

CURVES

04-17-2010, 08:41 PM

Maybe, maybe not.
I've been waiting for months for parts from a fairly high profile vendor on this site.
I chose to do business based on glowing reviews throughout the forum. If I were to comment now, it would not be pretty.
I'm fairly experienced and know what to expect and when I finally do get the parts I'm sure I will be happy.
So I guess my point would be that this vendor's reputation did not help except to raise my expectations and ultimately compound my dissapointment.

ArisESQ

04-17-2010, 08:48 PM

To be honest, I feel that one of the selling points of being a member of a forum such as this one IS the fact that you have a small window into the practices of some of the larger vendors, and that you get to see the experiences other forum members have.

It's true, this COULD get out of control very easily, but the fact is that most people that have a bad experience go ahead and make a new thread anyways.
And I think the benefit of having a system like this on a forum is that the reviews are not anonymous, as they typically are on ebay and most other sites. Anyone who has something to say about a particular vendor would typically have to have a damn good reason to post, otherwise they'd just be tarnishing their own name if it's an unnecessarily negative review.

The key is to try and keep it clean and not get overly emotional and worked up about things, in order to preserve a sense of professionalism which I think we would all appreciate.

GregWeld

04-17-2010, 08:52 PM

Personally -- I don't want to see "vendor" reviews -- or sponsor reviews...

If I want to "check out" a shop or supplier - it's real easy on here for me to PM or email folks that have done business with them. I've PERSONALLY DISCOURAGED folks when I've seen a post about what they're thinking or about who they're thinking of using etc. It was real easy with a PM.

I think it will bring out the WORST -- and start a bunch of dissension on what for me - is the best board on the planet... (have to thank Al Moreno for that one of these days :rofl: )

Let's just use the post by Fessler about the Mustang that broke in two.... and people start posting crap and then people take sides etc.... HATE THAT KIND OF STUFF... If I want to read that kind of stuff I can go to "chevy talk" or somewhere like that...

NOT A TA

04-17-2010, 10:47 PM

I also think having a section of the forum for feedback would be a bad idea. All hell would break loose. It would start with the big things being revealed and slowly work it's way down becoming more and more loaded with people bitching about the tiniest little things as more and more people got comfortable with it. More people would post complaints than would post good experiences, thats just the way people are. If everything goes well they just move along but if they're upset or waiting for parts and have free time to type they'll be posting up a storm.

This hobby is loaded with small parts manufacturers who have low volume production runs. The industry is plagued with backorders and unavailability, parts brought to market quickly, and unrealistic delivery dates for services rendered. Compound this with a customer base that expects the timely delivery of exceptionally high quality products and services at the lowest prices they can get and naturally there's going to be dissatisfaction at some level. Right now it doesn't get aired unless someone is really upset but with a forum section people will start to use it to their advantage with the "squeeky wheel gets the grease" theory. Posting that they're waiting on parts so theirs get shipped first or their car gets painted next etc.

People who aren't members may join the forum just to get a quick shot at discrediting vendors for various reasons, whether they were dissatisfied long ago, fired former employees, direct competitors, or whatever. It would be very hard to control.

Members will stop coming to the forum when they wrongly call someone out and are embarrased to be found wrong themselves or will stop coming if they aren't satisfied with the outcome of their post. At the same time some advertisers will be upset by comments made or the way things are handled and will pull their ads.

The way it is now the people who have small to medium complaints don't post because they know there will be 5 people who will immediately defend the vendor or service provider. In the long run, are the small/med grievences things we all need to know about? Probably not. Someones part got lost in shipping or damaged because of poor packing. Someones car wasn't ready for the big show. Someones part didn't fit as well as they hoped it would. Someones paint or other finish wasn't quite the color it looked like on a sample chip. Do these things really matter all that much in the grand scheme? There's a lot that goes on behind the face of the forum that isn't going to benefit anyone or the forum itself being public knowledge. A few cases have been aired and we've seen what happens.

Glowing endorsements are often given about certain shops or vendors by favored customers, people with influential positions in the industry or media, and friends who all may be getting preferred treatment or discounts etc. from the business so how much faith would we have that the general public is going to recieve the same level of service they get?

monza

04-17-2010, 11:27 PM

Really can you say anything bad about the SHAMWOW it's absorbs 12 times it's weight in water and the Germans made it....

Spiffav8

04-18-2010, 12:50 AM

Really can you say anything bad about the SHAMWOW it's absorbs 12 times it's weight in water and the Germans made it....

...and you know the Germans make good stuff.

Scott,

While I think it is important to take care of our members as well as our sponsors, I don't see a rating system being a good thing for the site. Yes there are those who will bash a vendor to death over what they consider a bad deal. We've seen that and I think the community will call B.S. when they see it. We've also seen just the opposite, where a vendor or shop has done a customer wrong. Again the community picks up on this and word spreads quickly. I don't see a rating system improving that at all.

I do like the idea of educating our members. It is the best defense one can have to keep from getting taken. We have some amazing shops and members here that are always willing to jump in and answer a question when one is asked. I would like to see more of this. How to go about it is the question. Some vendors have their own forums and will answer questions about their products there. Others chose to post more in the general forums. Honestly, the ones I see being the best in this area at the moment have been made by Chris Fessler. He has a few threads on cars that have been brought to his shop for repair only to discover a disaster. Disasters that the owner could have possibly avoided had he known. I am sure that most all of our vendors have stories like these that we can learn from. I see threads like those being very educational. I would love to a thread that gives more info on what a buyer should look for and be aware of when buying a project car. And another that gives really good info on what to look for when choosing a shop to work on it for you. I see this information coming mainly from the vendors and shop owners. There's a long list of people that help us regularly. All have different information to contribute. So if LG wants to do anything that will help members while rating vendors, I say start a forum where the vendors educate us. Those who contribute will earn their ratings by educating all of us. It's pretty much already happening, but putting it in a forum might be a good way of narrowing it down. Just a thought.

:captain:

tyoneal

04-18-2010, 05:22 AM

To All:

I have had this happen Twice.

Took my car to have something done, and it either wasn't done correctly, or I was over charged, or they were just terrible to deal with.

Money is tight and getting tighter, most if not all of us can't stand to take a huge beating by some jerk and not ruin the hobby for us.

It would seem in people's best interest to have a "Safe" place where you could go and use the vendors knowing that they are good and have a good track record with the people there.

Fortunately, all the vendors here, and on Pro-Touring.com have been fine so far. I like to think that the people here have been members long enough for people to know they are probably safe using someone to work on their cars. Especially if it requires you sending your car off to another state and spending 1000's of dollars.

Would it be easier for people to list a couple of vendors to the group, and people who have had a good or bad experience can send them an email about the vendor in question?

For instance, I will be doing a lot of work to my car in the near future. These are the vendors I plan to use whether in a small or large way. To make sure people are getting some help from the group, the person asking can ask the group about, "These" people. If they don't receive any help, the person asking can add to his post that he has not heard from anyone yet. If they have enough information, they can inform the group thing are good.

This way it would keep the "Bitching" off the main board and private. If there was something terrible going on, the person who was the customer could file a complaint with the AG of the state of the Vender.

Once someone has filed the complaint (Which they would probably do anyway if it was something big) then the problem could be announced to the group. False complaints can get into deep you Ca-Ca, with the AG.

I know this is long winded, but it would give everyone a chance to learn about the vendors, it would make the customer go out on a limb with the AG to keep the BS down to a minimum, plus alert people of the problem.

Thoughts??

Thanks,

Ty

MarkM66

04-18-2010, 05:43 AM

I trust buying off ebay. As much as buying from Summit, Jegs, etc.

I was burned once by a seller on ebay, they never sent the item, paypal refunded my money, and seller is now no longer registered. I take part of the blame because I made a quick buy, and didn't even look at the poor seller rating.

People act like ebay makes poor products, or falsely advertises items. Ebay also doesn't make people buy cars without looking at them first. Due deligence is the buyers job.

Ebay is an advertising site, that's all.

tellyv

04-18-2010, 07:42 AM

I'm all for it I know personally I would change some stuff I'm doing right now if this was in place! I think bad mouthing is'nt going to get very far so set up something with just good feedback don't let people bash, then if someone wants to buy and someone has a ton of good feedback you'll know that there a reputible company. If theres nothing said about the parts or company you were looking at stay away or be very carefull.

dhutton

04-18-2010, 07:54 AM

I don't see how something like this can remain impartial on a vendor supported forum. It just doesn't make sense and I would take the ratings with a huge grain of salt. The best way to solicit honest feedback is to send someone a PM asking them about their experiences with a vendor or product as suggested earlier.

Don

DRJDVM's '69

04-18-2010, 10:28 AM

I think this site should stick to what it does best..... act as a great source of info....both from the pros and from the amateurs. I think it shoud stay away from directly acting as a site that reviews companies. It just has too many pitfalls that in my opinion may end up tarnishing a great site.

I do think that any company that acts as a sponsor here should be held to a certain level of accountability. That accountability should be dealt with by Scott and the other moderators of this site, preferrably "behind the scenes"...... if a person has a problem with a sponsor company here and cant directly resolve it with that company, then contact Scott...voice your issues and complaint. In the event that Scott sees a trend with the company, then he can ask them to leave.

Maybe a few stickies or a forum that deals with "tips and tricks" to picking a shop or reviewing a car before you buy etc etc. Pointers by the pros....but not promotions or bashing of any particular company or shop

RECOVERY ROOM

04-18-2010, 10:42 AM

Very well put!!:thumbsup:

CRCRFT78

04-18-2010, 01:42 PM

I vote no on the rating system. There are just TOO MANY determining factors to know whether or not anyone is actually getting a good/bad rating based on actual facts.

Why not require the sponsors to have an actual involvement in the forums other than just advertising. Sort of like a quota of some sorts. I understand the advertising dollars help maintain this site but if there is no actual involvement from the vendors then they shouldn't be allowed to peddle their wares here. Yes it takes some BIG cajones to tell a vendor to take a walk but in some cases that's what's needed to get the point across.

Roadster Shop

04-18-2010, 01:49 PM

I think that this will be a bad idea for everyone.

Every single build has problems regardless of whether it was built by a professional shop or in your own garage. Everyone has parts that they will never use again... but there are probably plenty of people that will only use that same part because it has worked for them. I have a strong feeling that this will turn into a running list of everyone's minor problems and complaints, eventually dragging all vendors names in the dirt. Every vendor has an angry customer or two that can stem from delays, fitment issues, misunderstandings, quality issues, etc... The bad review will always travel hundreds of times farther than the good review.

From a consumer side, education is everything. Learn who you are dealing with, get references, talk to people in the industry and get their opinion. As great as it sounds, there can not be a magic place that you look and it gives all of the answers.

On the other hand, we have gotten screwed over pretty badly in the past, even by sponsors on this site costing us significant amounts of money, and losing customers as a result. After talking to other people in the industry, they have had similar situations and results. In that case, a heads up definitely would have been appreciated. If it is something major, or repeated on multiple occasions maybe post something in the Open Discussion section to let people know what's up.

1984 camaro

04-18-2010, 02:03 PM

Art morrison was great to work with. Steve webb and my self went back and forth on making a new chassis for my camaro it took about two weeks of measuring and phone calls to get the design done. I placed the order with morrison and was told that I should receive the chassis in about 3-4 weeks It showed up in less than three weeks. The chassis was a perfect fit. Two months after the getting the frame Steve called and asked how everything went together, I would highly recommend art morrison to anyone based on my experience.

These companies also
Ricks hot rod shop :thumbsup:
Nelson racing :thumbsup:
Optima batteries :thumbsup:
Ron davis radiator :thumbsup:

I like the grading system other people need to know the bad as of the good.

Ron in SoCal

04-18-2010, 02:48 PM

We all need to remember, even though we meet people here and call them friends, this is the internet! People hide behind personas all the time/say things they would never have the balls to say in the real world and I would not like to see a community supported site like this deteriorate into a vendor bitch forum.

I do have a suggestion: recently there was a thread about a motor shop in PHX taking people's hard earned money and not building or delivering their engines. This post lead to other forums and threads with the same story of other's similar misfurtune. One guy replied and said, "I go racing all the time. Have for 20 years. I have never seen (said shop's) motors being run at the track. No one uses them." This got me to thinking, if we show up at Street Car events, speak with people we meet here and find out what a great job reputable shops had done for them, we'd know. Good old word of mouth, supporting vendors that particpate here.

98ssnova

04-18-2010, 06:52 PM

I dont think this is a good Idea for the the Forum this could get ugly quick with he said she said type stuff and the next thing you know vendors are gone and we have a site to surf anymore. I will not be be posting on here good or bad if you want to know about a company I would PM you first. I get that people want to tell other about good service but I dont want to hear about how somebody is pissed becasue its taking an extra month to get a part or it arrived damaged these things happen. Take it up with the guy you bought it from. No need to put people on blast for this. Just my .02 off soap box

RECOVERY ROOM

04-18-2010, 08:56 PM

I have had customers drop cars off and bitch about company's on this site and other sites,They did this or they did that so they pulled there car out of that shop and had someone else finish it, now that guy is getting more cars built by the new place and seams to be happy, sometimes people just don't get along.Everybody has had problems with something or someone.People who talk crap most of the time won't man up and say it to there face or try and work out the issue,Back to the same story there is 3 sides to every story and both people think there right and this is not the place for it happen.If there is a problem call them and see what can be done,Don't just start talking trash and posting.I have ordered parts before and was told they were on there way, two weeks later they showed up.When I called and asked what was up I was told that the person I talked to did not check inventory to be able to back up that promise, now when I call I ask them to check stock.Problem solved. This site is fun to be part of and hope it stays this way, not a haters site for every issue and problem that happens.

Vegas69

04-18-2010, 09:12 PM

I agree, I like Pro-touring.com but it gets a little to negative for me at times. Its been known to suck me in and I can honestly say my personality tends to be different over there. Not quite as much now that I have met most of the good guys. They have a couple moderators that like to fuel the fire which doesn't help. I'd keep this place casual and positive. I wouldn't want the liability of a rating system either. Well Lateral-g rated joe blow restoration shop at a 4.5 but they milked me for 25k. NO thanks. So Scott?:unibrow:

jhiphopjunky

04-18-2010, 09:20 PM

Vegas69

04-18-2010, 09:24 PM

Because it will never happen...

enzo

04-18-2010, 10:02 PM

How many of us are ready to pull the bus out and start throwing people under it? It's a bad idea - it would make coming to this forum rather stressful for a great many vendors and consumers.

I have had good transactions and poor ones - but no one wants to read about my dirty laundry, and I don't want to read about anyone else's either.

again... BAD IDEA

98ssnova

04-18-2010, 10:28 PM

Why not keep the thread geared toward recognizing the people that provide GOOD services! :thumbsup:
If a person or business mentioned they're probably safe to work with. If not i suggest doing more homework on that person or business.

Just search the open disscussion you will find plenty of threads that praise companies that come though for customers

tyoneal

12-09-2010, 02:09 AM

There are a lot of good ideas here.

It might be a good idea that if you have had a positive experience with a company that someone ask about mention it, or mention it even if it was a good experience for you.

Then if someone is asking about a company that you have had a issue with, just PM the person the information. At least at this point it can be helpful for people, and anyone that would like a reference can still get one.

If someone ask about a company and no one says anything, that is probably all that needs to be said. (or Un-Said)

That would keep personal grudges off the this thread, and positive things where deserved on the thread.

Thoughts?

I really like references, and/or warning if a Vender is no good. It would have saved me a ton of money about 5 years ago if I could have gotten ANY feedback from anyone. Instead, I walked into a mess that left my wallet bleeding.

Ty O'Neal

eldercaddy

12-09-2010, 04:53 AM

I think that the reviewing companies and people you have done business with is a good idea. I'm sure you can more richer with that. :)

HEEP

12-09-2010, 11:29 AM

I'm new here but not new to forums. I recommend reading if you are looking for someone to buy parts from. I made my first purchase through this board a couple of weeks ago. The vendor, I believe is a stand up guy here. Do I have my parts? No. did he tell me up front that they were not available? Yes. Would I bash him? Not at this point. I deal with suppliers on a daily basis begging for them to ship parts. Be honest with me and I can deal with it. Lie to me, and I'll pull parts from you quicker than you can see straight.
Like I said, do your homework, read and talk to others. Is every purchase going to work out perfect? Probably not. Should you start this new section or rating system? I wouldn't.

Thanks,
HEEP