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Jay Hilliard

04-02-2010, 11:13 AM

I recently drove from NC to Nebraska and picked up this 69 (X66) project for my wife. It was her 40th b-day present. Now comes the fun. The car is an original 396 4speed car originally bought in NEB and has been there for past 40 years (August born car).

The plans are:

semi-stock, semi pro-touring.
Car will be lowered with Hotchkis front and DSE rear leafs, DSE tubular uppers, Baer brakes and 18" wheels.
Interior will be mostly stock, except MAYBE aftermarket dash. Wife has to decide.

Engine: 396
Trans: T400 (wife wants auto). I will continue to try and convince her to go manual, but not working so far.
Rear: Original 12 bolt, 3.07 gears (tru-trac)
Going back with original Glacier blue paint and blue interior
Leaving it as a spoiler delete SS396

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/69project1.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/69project5.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/Cart1.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/cart4.jpg

youthpastor

04-02-2010, 11:35 AM

very cool....I a little jealous of that shop- nice place!

Rybar

04-02-2010, 11:38 AM

Nice score. I'm kind of jealous of the shape of that shell!! :lol:

My vote would be to leave the spoilers on. :yes:

Project Cortez

04-02-2010, 11:54 AM

Solid project, I agree with keeping the spoiler. :thumbsup:

Jay Hilliard

04-02-2010, 11:58 AM

Thanks for the comments fella's. I love my shop. The floor is filthy, but since the floor has epoxy coating on it, it cleans up really easy. I still need to run my air lines though. I've been saying that for the past year. :(

The car shell and floor, etc is very solid. Lower rear quarters have some issues, but I dont think I'll have to put full quarters on. I plan to get it media blasted this month, then I'll know. ;)

The car did not come with a spoiler. It has original trunk lid and never had a spoiler on it. I just hate to drill holes in a lid that has gone 41 years as a spoiler delete optioned SS.

cdushane

04-02-2010, 01:24 PM

Very nice find :thumbsup: I like your idea on the build, sounds like it's going to be a sweet ride!

tones2SS

04-02-2010, 04:25 PM

That's awesome Jay!! Good deal. She must be sikked to be able to drive it when complete. I WOULD!
Nice shop too.:thumbsup: :cheers:

70rs

04-02-2010, 04:51 PM

Nice looking project. I hope it is as solid under the paint as it appears.
I like that you are leaving the spoiler off. While they look good with them, they also look good without.

youthpastor

04-02-2010, 05:16 PM

Jay Hilliard

04-02-2010, 07:03 PM

I'm with you Chris. My plan is not to have a spoiler. I get the subframe back from the powdercoater wednesday.

Jay Hilliard

04-08-2010, 12:03 PM

I got my subframe and lca's back today. I think the powdercoating turned out well. I hope to get the car shell to the media blaster within the next couple of weeks max.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC00440.jpg

tones2SS

04-08-2010, 01:15 PM

Looks good Jay. Keep us posted.:thumbsup:

redfire69

04-08-2010, 02:26 PM

Another vote for no spoiler. Body shell looks pretty good, media blasting will reveal all! :thumbsup:

94snglturbo

04-08-2010, 02:32 PM

nice shell.. staying with stock wheels?

Jay Hilliard

04-08-2010, 04:16 PM

nice shell.. staying with stock wheels?

Thanks! Gonna go with 18's. My wife really like's Jason Rushforth's Super Spokes and its her car so.... (I'll let you fill in the sentence) ;)

DFRESH

04-08-2010, 04:34 PM

That's awesome Jay---I think it's cool that your wife is into the car thing--especially 69 Camaro's. I hope she doesn't want a 454 LSX next however--LOL---you'll have to cut her off--keep the pics coming.

Doug

waynieZ

04-08-2010, 07:03 PM

The sub frame looks good.

Jay Hilliard

04-08-2010, 07:12 PM

Thanks Doug. Many kudos go out to you for GIVING me the lower control arms. Thank you very much! There are alot good people on this forum and Doug is one of them.

Hopefully I can pay it foward when someone else needs something.

Thanks again!

DFRESH

04-08-2010, 07:38 PM

Hey Jay, I'm in the market for a powder coated front sub frame----:lol:

Glad to help bro---still got the uppers here man--if you need them---got a set of almost new KYB shocks for the rear that I can't use anymore since I converted to the G-Bar---yours if you want them.

Doug

OnEdge

04-09-2010, 07:06 AM

Looks like a nice project.

What part of Nebraska did you get it from? I've been going to out to Nebraska a lot for work and I'm just curious.

What wheels are on your orange 69? Do you have any more pictures of it?

That is one sweet setup you have there for a shop. I'm very jealous!

Josh69

04-09-2010, 11:00 AM

I think it'll look real sharp with the correct blacked out tail panel without the rear spoiler. It'll be very unique. I'm pretty sure all SS396's came with the black panel aside from black cars.

Looks like a very nice car to start with! Congrats! :lateral:

Hdesign

04-09-2010, 12:06 PM

Jay....is that the rendering I see in the background of one of the pix? :D

Jay Hilliard

04-09-2010, 08:02 PM

Jay Hilliard

04-09-2010, 08:06 PM

Jay....is that the rendering I see in the background of one of the pix? :D

Hey Ben, Yes it is. You have a keen eye ;). I plan to paint my orange 69 like the rendering you did for me. Some things came up that kept me from starting last year on it. My plan is to finish this new car for my wife and then do paint on mine.

BTW, everyone who see's the rendering loves it. The manager at FedEx Kinkos liked it so much he printed 4 copies and gave them to me no charge. How cool is that?

Stuart Adams

04-09-2010, 08:29 PM

Very cool.

Jay Hilliard

04-28-2010, 09:46 AM

Dropped the car off to the media blaster today. I will get the car back tomorrow and then it will get some expoxy primer.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC00536.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC00537.jpg

tones2SS

04-28-2010, 03:58 PM

Very cool!:thumbsup:

brans72

04-28-2010, 04:10 PM

Whoa cool build and someone actually within 30 mins of my house! Mind me asking who did your blasting? I got mine done took a long time!!!! Now where replacing all sheet metal on my Chevelle. Brandon

Jay Hilliard

04-29-2010, 01:31 PM

Got the car blasted today. Here is a close up pic of the firewall. Hard to make out from this pic, but the lettering looks like: blu and D99. Anyone know what D99 code is?

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC00553.jpg

68RS350

04-30-2010, 05:11 AM

Jay Hilliard

05-09-2010, 02:44 PM

Car turned out well. Not alot of surprises. Rear quarters will need to be replaced (was hoping I could save them) along with outer wheelhouse's (inners are fine). There are a few pin holes in trunk and rear passenger pan, but nothing that cant be welded up.

Also sail panel will need some repair where glass lays but I dont think it requires replacement. Front pass floorpan will need to be replaced between toe pan and just in front of seat riser.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC00582.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC00581.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC00580-1.jpg

Sail pan lip
http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC00545.jpg

Pass pan
http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC00574.jpg

DOOM

05-09-2010, 06:03 PM

Not to bad Jay! Man I wish mine was half that good...

waynieZ

05-09-2010, 06:07 PM

That looks really good, a very nice starter.

Jay Hilliard

05-09-2010, 06:42 PM

Not to bad Jay! Man I wish mine was half that good...

Thanks Mario. I plan on using AMD quarters. I have read and heard really good remarks about their panels. I spoke with AMD on friday and the fellow answered on all my questions.

I have been told their fenders fit/gap nice to doors also.

Jay Hilliard

06-18-2010, 04:18 PM

I haven't had a chance to update lately, but I have worked on it some. The pin holes in trunk and a few in rear floor have been welded & smoothed. I cut out part of the front passenger floorpan and butt welded the new peice in. I thought it turned out very nice. I just have to grind the weld down now.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0189.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0194.jpg

Underneath car:

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0195.jpg

GregWeld

06-18-2010, 04:31 PM

Nice looking beginnings!
:thumbsup:

DOOM

06-18-2010, 05:14 PM

Jay how are the rocker panels ? Everything is rusted to heck on mine but my rocker panels are in excellent shape.. Just wondering how yours were..

Jay Hilliard

06-18-2010, 05:23 PM

Mario. My rockers are in good shape. Only thing to do is put on rear quarters, outer wheelhouses and trunk drop pans.

I got my AMD rear quarters in today and they are nice quality. Much nicer than what I remember from Goodmark (although I hear they are thicker metal now).

DOOM

06-18-2010, 05:30 PM

I picked up a BUNCH of sheet metal from DNR Camaro last week . I was'nt going to buy the quarters from them ,but they showed me the ones they had and I could'nt believe how nice they were so I took them . I don't even know who's brand they are but man they look good:cheers:

Jay Hilliard

07-04-2010, 10:42 AM

My AMD quarters arrived a week ago so I am at the point now to get someone to replace the rear quarters, as I am not real keen on tackling this job. I know you have to start somewhere, but not on my wifes car. When mom is happy, everyone is happy! :yes:

I had spoke with Dan Holohan,owner of Holohan's HotRod Shop (formerly with Rad Rides by Troy and DSE) in Mooresville NC a couple of times late last year. So needing some fab work, my wife and I decided to go check out his shop and meet him and put a face with a voice.

It was great to meet Dan and a special thanks to him for taking time out of his day to talk cars, shop and answer all of my questions about our project and projects he has worked on in the past. Many thanks again for the Sick Fish build book!:thumbsup:

I enjoyed spending most of a day talking cars. I must say my wife and I really enjoyed watching his dog Jake do tricks as well.

Dan is a super nice guy. I plan to take the wifes car to Holohan's HotRod's in August. I saw some of his header and exhaust work on a 57 chevy and it was truely a work of art. Dan is blessed with a talent, I wish I had just a bit of. It's very hard starting a business, but doing so in this economy can be even more difficult, so if you need any fab work, call him up as you will not be disappointed with the quality of craftmenship.

Here is a cool video of Jack saying his prayers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6rIchHO6-8

Kendall Burleson

07-04-2010, 11:05 AM

A good guy and you will be amaze at finished and detail. He has a eye for the little things good choice on your shop pick. he at the top of the list I try not brag on friends but:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Jay Hilliard

08-26-2010, 06:51 AM

Well, its been awhile since I updated. Been super busy as my father-on-law passed away in July, vacation, & spending time with my two boys. Last week I got some time to work on it a little. So.....I took the door skins off as I had found where some bodywork had been done. It was fixed correctly, but me being picky, i decided to replace them.

I plan to take the car to Dan, owner of Holohan's HotRod Shop this Sat for him to install rear quarters and a couple of other small things, then swing by the Charlotte Auto Fair.

Anyone one coming to the autofair, PM and we can exchange numbers and meet up. :thumbsup:

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0218.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0219.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0222.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0223.jpg

Payton King

08-26-2010, 07:08 AM

Yesterday at his shop. He said you were bringing your car. Mine should be up there some time after RTTH as well. Hopefully I will see you up there some time.

Not going to the auto fair. Had an oil pump problem and my motor is sitting on a stand. Plan on putting it back in this weekend. I am about 20 minutes south of the race track. If you have time to kill, come on down. My cell is 704-564-8577.

Jay Hilliard

08-26-2010, 07:25 AM

Thanks for the offer Peyton. I'll call you if I have time to swing by. If not, we'll plan to meet at Dan's.

tones2SS

08-26-2010, 08:25 AM

Nice progress Jay. Keep us posted.:thumbsup:

GregWeld

08-26-2010, 08:31 AM

Nice job on the skins Jay...

:thumbsup: :hail:

Jay Hilliard

08-26-2010, 09:12 AM

Thanks guys. The skins and rear quarters are AMD and I am impressed with the quality. Nice sharp bends and heavier gauge metal.

waynieZ

08-26-2010, 11:47 AM

Nice progress it looks great. Good to hear the sheet metal is a quality piece.

bonecrrusher

08-30-2010, 08:37 AM

Looking nice... wheres that shop in Mooresville?

Payton King

08-30-2010, 11:26 AM

It is located by the Mooresville drag strip.

bonecrrusher

08-30-2010, 12:50 PM

Everything is located up there! LOL...

I'll be headed up there to get the Vette tuned whenever I get around to my heads/blower swap.... :cheers:

yumyumchoppers

08-30-2010, 05:04 PM

Didn't know there were that many cacilacs on here. If you guys are ever in Mayberry please look me up and let me drool on your cars!!

g356gear

08-31-2010, 08:18 AM

According to this website on decoding the build sheet. The D99 designation is Two Tone Paint Molding. I have never seen one before and I have no idea what it looks like or what it is. Hope this helps. If you do find a picture or anymore info post it up I love to learn more about Camaro!

KD is one of two known ECLs for a '69 blue custom interior. It would be listed on docs as 5Z87KD. ECLs are not necessarily color-specific.
D99 is listed in later Chevrolet parts books as "paint, two-tone, special order."

Jay Hilliard

09-15-2010, 05:22 PM

I dropped the wife's car off with Dan Holohan at his shop in Mooresville a couple weeks ago. He has started on it and sent some pics.

Fixing backglass area

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSCN0443.jpg

Had to add some metal to PS door for skin to fit to.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSCN0474.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSCN0476.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSCN0478.jpg

Passenger door skin on and hung. Gaps look good

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0233.jpg

Driver door gaps...making progress

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0237.jpg

Removing quarter panel

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0240.jpg

tones2SS

09-15-2010, 05:28 PM

Great work Jay. Looking good.:thumbsup:

fleetus macmullitz

09-15-2010, 07:30 PM

Metal dare not obey Dan. ;)

waynieZ

09-15-2010, 08:03 PM

Its looking good.

Jay Hilliard

10-01-2010, 07:41 AM

Here are some more pics. Dan is doing an awesome job. I could not ask for better work, attention to detail and all work done correctly as if it was his car.

He catches the small things, like the RR had been replaced before, but the qtr panel re-enforcement panel was not there. Alot of shops would have not said a word,, taken the time to add this peice in and just installed the quarter anyway.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0261-1.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0267-1.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0269.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0272.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0274.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0276.jpg

tones2SS

10-01-2010, 10:11 AM

Very nice. She's coming along nicely Jay!:thumbsup:

OnEdge

10-01-2010, 11:01 AM

Jay Hilliard

10-01-2010, 11:28 AM

Looks like things are moving along nicely. I wish I was moving as fast on Nova as you are moving on your Camaro. Is this your garage in the background? If so I'm so jealous. LOL. Keep up the great work!

The last few pics are at Dan Holohan's shop in Mooresville, NC. On the first page of this thread is my home shop.

coolwelder62

10-01-2010, 05:31 PM

Look's great.Dan H. really does great work.Make's it look so easy.:thumbsup: Can't wait to see more.Scott.

Jay Hilliard

10-01-2010, 06:48 PM

Look's great.Dan H. really does great work.Make's it look so easy.:thumbsup: Can't wait to see more.Scott.

Dan is definitely gifted and makes it look very easy. Here are some more pics:

Left quarter plug welded

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0283.jpg

top of quarter plug welded and silicon brazed

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0288.jpg

Took some work but very nice fit to tail pan

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0292.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0293.jpg

Started on RR qtr

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0299.jpg

Dan's dog Jack guarding the shop and the car.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0280.jpg

coolwelder62

10-01-2010, 08:59 PM

Look's great,Dan really does great work:thumbsup:.Make's it look easy.Can't wait to see more.Hey set up a video cam.That way I see how it's done.:lol:

youthpastor

10-02-2010, 09:17 AM

wow...coming along pretty fast- looks awesome:D

Rybar

10-02-2010, 11:21 AM

Awesome job, nice to find shops that do excellent work like this :thumbsup:

tones2SS

10-03-2010, 09:30 AM

Very cool Jay. Dan is doing a great job on your car. Should look killer when complete!:thumbsup:

waynieZ

10-03-2010, 05:17 PM

Nice to see it coming together. It looks great.

Jay Hilliard

11-03-2010, 06:30 PM

rocker repair
http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/rockerrepair.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/rockerrepair1.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/rockerrepair2.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/rockerrepair5.jpg

inner tub repair
http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/tubrepair.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/tubrepair1.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/tubrepair2.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/tubrepair5.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/tubrepair6.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/tubrepair7.jpg

Jay Hilliard

11-03-2010, 06:31 PM

rr qtr
http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0354.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0380.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0345.jpg

silicon brazing qtr seams
http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0402.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0400.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0397.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0375.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0379.jpg

2nd gen mirrors added
http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0408.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0411.jpg

Sandbagger

11-03-2010, 07:01 PM

Where did you get the silicon brazing rod ? Tig ? Oxy acetalene ??

waynieZ

11-03-2010, 09:13 PM

That work is amazing. Beautiful !

Frankenstine

11-03-2010, 10:04 PM

Hey Jay, Nice car, nice work,? on your replacement metal did you use AMD on all of it? I have heard nice things about AMD. I will be moveing back to NC after the first of the year, and will begin working on my 69, I am planning to do most of the tear down myself to save some clam$, I am impressed on the workmanship of Holohan's Shop, will definatly look him up, Thanks and keep the picks comming.

Jay Hilliard

11-04-2010, 05:43 AM

Where did you get the silicon brazing rod ? Tig ? Oxy acetalene ??

Dan uses Tig for 99% with everything he does. You can get the rods from most welding supply places.

Hey Jay, Nice car, nice work,? on your replacement metal did you use AMD on all of it? I have heard nice things about AMD. I will be moveing back to NC after the first of the year, and will begin working on my 69, I am planning to do most of the tear down myself to save some clam$, I am impressed on the workmanship of Holohan's Shop, will definatly look him up, Thanks and keep the picks comming.

I used AMD for everything. Its alot nicer than others and heavier gauge. I have a NOS trunk lid and bought an AMD and the AMD is heavier by a few lbs. Go check out Dan and his shop. Excellent work, sends pics constantly, great communication.

coolwelder62

11-04-2010, 06:43 AM

Jay,the camaro is coming along great. Dan is really doing an awesome job.The guy is very talented.:thumbsup: Dan this BUDS for you.:cheers:

Payton King

11-04-2010, 06:54 AM

Dan is doing you right.

When are you suppose to pick it up?

Jay Hilliard

11-04-2010, 07:38 AM

Dan is doing you right.

When are you suppose to pick it up?

I am planning to pick it up Sat. Dan has done an excellent job and as he says..."I do it as if it were mine".

I will call you and see if you have anything going on Sat and want to meet up for lunch.

Sandbagger

11-04-2010, 07:39 AM

Dan uses Tig for 99% with everything he does. You can get the rods from most welding supply places.

I used AMD for everything. Its alot nicer than others and heavier gauge. I have a NOS trunk lid and bought an AMD and the AMD is heavier by a few lbs. Go check out Dan and his shop. Excellent work, sends pics constantly, great communication.

I have been in collision shops for 20 years . Never seen it used . Kinda sad really . I have cut parts off that use it good stuff .

Less heat ? I know it grinds easier than mig welding .

Jay Hilliard

11-04-2010, 07:50 AM

I have been in collision shops for 20 years . Never seen it used . Kinda sad really . I have cut parts off that use it good stuff .

Less heat ? I know it grinds easier than mig welding .

You are correct. Per Dan, it does use less heat and is easier to grind. I am not very familiar with it myself.

tones2SS

11-04-2010, 10:12 AM

Looks great Jay. Really good! You must be getting jacked up seeing the pics.:thumbsup: :cheers:

bonecrrusher

11-04-2010, 04:43 PM

Damn - looking good!!

Jay Hilliard

11-05-2010, 09:10 AM

Gapping trunk lid to qtrs

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0423.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0424.jpg

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waynieZ

11-05-2010, 10:15 AM

It takes a lot of work to get them right, but its worth it in the end. Nice progress.

coolwelder62

11-05-2010, 02:37 PM

Sombeach that look's great.This is going to be a top notch build.:thumbsup:

dropit69

11-05-2010, 03:09 PM

Wow some amazing work..Dan is originally from my area near Rad Rides ..i know of him and have pmed him about doing my dynacorn car..just never met him in person.....this might just help convince me..

BBC71Nova

11-05-2010, 03:15 PM

What he ^^ said. That looks great. Where's this guy located? In NC?

ArisESQ

11-05-2010, 03:16 PM

top notch work! looks great!

what are the plans for the car? stock-ish restoration?

tones2SS

11-05-2010, 05:12 PM

Very nice. Looks very good.:thumbsup: :cheers:

bonecrrusher

11-05-2010, 06:00 PM

What he ^^ said. That looks great. Where's this guy located? In NC?

IIRC - Payton said Dan is based out of a shop in Mooresville NC...

Jay Hilliard

11-05-2010, 07:06 PM

Thanks for comments guys. Dan is doing an excellent job. I could not be any more pleased and satisfied with the work he has done. Dan's shop is located in Mooresville, NC on the same road as the drag strip. His shop is just a few miles from DSE. Dan is a super nice guy who can fab is behind off.

Just take a look at the car Sick Fish that came from Rad Rides by Troy. There is a build book on it and Dan did a bunch of fab the fab work. He left Troy's and went to DSE for a few years and did alot of work on Michael Manning's car and some others.

Dan started his shop late last year, so if you need some great work done, look him up.

what are the plans for the car? stock-ish restoration?

Plan is basic pro-touring but with stock sub and rear leafs. Basic car that sits right, has great body lines and gaps and WELL detailed engine bay. Alot of suttle things to make the car look clean but on a budget and not the 75k+ budget. Im trying to build a super nice looking car with some modern comforts and driving feel on an average guy budget. This is no stab to the high budget builds as I wish I could do afford to have that. This is for my wife and she will be cruising in it 99% of the time and not require that latest suspension technology.

Here are some of the major things:
- Hotchkis front springs
- DSE dash, rear leaf springs, steering box, swaybar and upper a-arms
- Koni shocks
- baer brakes (T4 front and SS4 rear)
- J Rushforth 18" Superspoke rims
- ZZ427 engine (car is original BB, but cheaper to buy crate than rebuild the 396 myself with similar parts that crate engine has)
- Custom interior but has stock type appearance here and there (ie..stock looking seats but more pronounced bolsters, one peice headliner, etc)
- Car will be original Glacier blue with medium blue interior
- vintage air Gen IV and frontrunner system
- Anvil carbon fiber peices here and there also.

Kendall Burleson

11-05-2010, 09:13 PM

Car looks great killer work by Dan what is that brown car in the corner?

Jay Hilliard

11-05-2010, 09:22 PM

62 or 63 chevy II post

ArisESQ

11-05-2010, 09:29 PM

sounds really cool :yes:

i gotta admit i'm a little surprised that you kept the stock tubs even after doing the new quarter panels. would it have been significantly more work?

Jay Hilliard

11-06-2010, 06:39 AM

sounds really cool :yes:

i gotta admit i'm a little surprised that you kept the stock tubs even after doing the new quarter panels. would it have been significantly more work?

The inners were in really good shape except for one area on pass side. It is right much work to mini-tub. Approx ~35-40 hrs which would have pushed me way over my budget, not to mention the other suspension costs that balloon with mini-tubs. I would have wanted quadra link, new rearend, etc. You guys know how it works. :yes:

coolwelder62

11-06-2010, 08:23 AM

The inners were in really good shape except for one area on pass side. It is right much work to mini-tub. Approx ~35-40 hrs which would have pushed me way over my budget, not to mention the other suspension costs that balloon with mini-tubs. I would have wanted quadra link, new rearend, etc. You guys know how it works. :yes:

When I started to run low on funds I ask the wife if she wouldn't mind getting a second job.:lol: Man that went over like a lead ballon.:mad:

tones2SS

11-06-2010, 12:07 PM

When I started to run low on funds I ask the wife if she wouldn't mind getting a second job.:lol: Man that went over like a lead ballon.:mad:

^^HA HA!:lol:
Car is looking very good Jay. Dan is doing a great job on it. He must be a man with great skill to work for Troy and DSE. Very good!:thumbsup: :cheers:

Jay Hilliard

11-08-2010, 06:38 PM

^^HA HA!:lol:
Car is looking very good Jay. Dan is doing a great job on it. He must be a man with great skill to work for Troy and DSE. Very good!:thumbsup: :cheers:

Thanks man! Dan is very skilled. Just look at some of the cars he has worked on at Rad Rides and DSE. Sickfish & Chicayne are some aweome cars that he has put his craftmanship on.

Dan wanted to do some old school stuff, so he decided to lead the quarter to roof seam like GM did. This is a lost art.

Leading qtr to roof seams:

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0452.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0455.jpg

Car back home...time for me to get to work now!

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0457.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0458.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0459.jpg

tones2SS

11-09-2010, 09:11 AM

Came out awesome. Will be on the lookout for updates.
Good luck man!:thumbsup: :cheers:

Jay Hilliard

11-09-2010, 09:17 AM

Came out awesome. Will be on the lookout for updates.
Good luck man!:thumbsup: :cheers:

Thanks man! Looking forward to working on it.

jay web

11-21-2010, 05:43 PM

that is looking really good, Jay. first time I've seen it. I need to get over there and see your shop and everything. (what happened to no spoiler?)

OnEdge

11-21-2010, 08:34 PM

Derek Miller

11-21-2010, 11:18 PM

Car is looking great. Not to keep bringing the Silicon Brazing up but it just amazes me. From working in body shops in the past, we never used anything like this. I assume that Dan is brazing over the entire gap and just cutting the body line back in with something like a cut off wheel or whatever. Here is an article on silicon bronze filler that I found interesting and informing, http://metalshapers.org/101/covell/covell-silbronze.shtml. You mentioned that he uses TIG to lay it down but from the article, there are a few options. Any further information that you could share would be great as I would like to try this on my build.
Thanks,

awr68

11-21-2010, 11:35 PM

Looks fantastic! I like the outline of the build too!!! :thumbsup:

Jay Hilliard

11-22-2010, 07:17 AM

that is looking really good, Jay. first time I've seen it. I need to get over there and see your shop and everything. (what happened to no spoiler?)

Its Donna's car...She wanted the spoiler. :rolleyes: Come on over anytime this weekend. Im removing the EDP coating off the doors and quarters. Got 1/2 of it completed.

Jay Hilliard

11-22-2010, 07:21 AM

car looks great. It is amazing how fast you got all that metal work done. Did you ever contemplate using quarter skins as apposed to the full quarters? Just curious cause I'm debating on using full quarters or just do the skins.

I thought about it for about 10 min. After speaking with Dan and some others on here, I decided on full quarters and very happy with decision. Its not that much more work to do full quarter vs 80%.

Go with AMD full quarters. You will be glad you did after everything is done.

Jay Hilliard

11-22-2010, 07:29 AM

Jay Hilliard

11-22-2010, 07:30 AM

Looks fantastic! I like the outline of the build too!!! :thumbsup:

Thanks Tony! You car turned out awesome! I know it feels great to have Karma back and know everything was done correctly. Congrats.

KPC67

11-22-2010, 08:26 AM

Nice car Jay!
the AMD stuff does look really nice:yes:
Dan did an amazing job on gapping that baby!

DIGI-TAILS

11-22-2010, 08:28 AM

Great progress Jay!!! Thanks for keeping us posted ... :) :thumbsup:

awr68

11-22-2010, 09:33 AM

Thanks Tony! You car turned out awesome! I know it feels great to have Karma back and know everything was done correctly. Congrats.

Thanks Jay! It's not home just yet...but will be very soon!! And yes it's nice knowing it's done right this time around! :yes:

coolwelder62

11-22-2010, 09:59 AM

Jay,The project is looking real good.Can't wait to see more.:thumbsup: Scott

rocketrod

11-24-2010, 10:37 PM

Awesome project Jay!

DOOM

11-25-2010, 07:24 AM

Any new pic's Jay? I also learned that one of our members has his car at Dan's shop for some finishing up..

Jay Hilliard

11-26-2010, 04:34 PM

Any new pic's Jay? I also learned that one of our members has his car at Dan's shop for some finishing up..

Mario...No major updates. Just removing that EDP coating and then its time for epoxy primer, seam seal and then it will get some high build primer. Followed by the long block sanding process.

Dan mentioned there was someone on Lat-G bringing in another 69 camaro. I also know of another member having some work done soon. I hope Dan and his shop does well. I highly recommend him!

tones2SS

11-26-2010, 05:46 PM

Dan mentioned there was someone on Lat-G bringing in another 69 camaro. I also know of another member having some work done soon. I hope Dan and his shop does well. I highly recommend him!
That's awesome Jay. Judging from what he has done with your car, he does great work. Plus, he worked with some great shops as well.
Keep us posted on yours please!:thumbsup: :cheers:

Jay Hilliard

12-03-2010, 06:50 PM

I havent had much time to work on the car past couple of weeks, but I did manage to get most of the coating off. I plan to finish removing it this weekend.

Its something about bare metal that just looks awesome!

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC00912.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC00909.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC00911.jpg

waynieZ

12-03-2010, 09:18 PM

Nice progress.

awr68

12-04-2010, 01:16 AM

Impressive! :hail:

tones2SS

12-04-2010, 11:08 AM

Looks great Jay.
You are right. Something about the bare metal that just looks great.:yes:

Sales@Dutchboys

12-04-2010, 08:36 PM

Killer Jay!:thumbsup:

Paul

coolwelder62

12-04-2010, 08:39 PM

Lookin good Mr.Jay!!!:thumbsup:

tucks69

12-05-2010, 07:11 AM

The Camaro is looking good!

Jay Hilliard

12-15-2010, 04:46 PM

I was able to work on my wife's car yesterday and today. I got some epoxy primer on and painted the cowl and firewall. Now its time to seam seal.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0473.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0474.jpg

tones2SS

12-15-2010, 05:07 PM

Looks awesome Jay.:thumbsup:

Jay Hilliard

01-10-2011, 06:57 PM

Over the holidays I had the car primed, installed the subframe and starting hanging the repop fenders. The first set was way off with the brackets, so I sent them back and got and another pair in. The brackets were correct but the gaps were huge and was going to require major attention to keep my 6 year old son from fall ing in and never to been seen again. Ok, Im exaggerating some, but 5/16"-3/8" gaps from fender to door was nothing to take lightly.

So, not exactly sure what my best option was and needing an expert opinion, I called the the resident expert fabricator and gave Dan from Holohan's HotRod Shop in Mooresville a call. I described the situation to Dan and was surprised when he told me, "No problem, I will come down Saturday, take a look at it and we'll work on it". I was not expecting that.

Talk about customer service, and having a passion for cars and wanting them look right, Dan (true to his word) drove 1hr 45 minutes along with Jack (the dog..aka "fur person")to my house, checked everything over and we started on the fix, which was to add filler rod to the door and alot of it.

Many thanks my friend for coming down and on a Saturday. Thanks for the help and pointers. It is very much appreciated!!

Now time to do some grinding and final gapping.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC01002.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC01004.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC01012.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC01011.jpg

DIGI-TAILS

01-10-2011, 07:21 PM

Looks awesome Jay!!! :)

coolwelder62

01-10-2011, 07:43 PM

:thumbsup: Lookin real good Jay.Scott

waynieZ

01-10-2011, 08:11 PM

Nice! Thats the stuff that pays off in the end.

Jay Hilliard

01-10-2011, 08:15 PM

Nice! Thats the stuff that pays off in the end.

Thanks guys. Wayne you are 100% spot on.

NovaBlue71

01-10-2011, 08:42 PM

Jay,looking good, those door to fender gaps are always so much fun to make fit especially when you get aftermart parts involved. Looks like Dan Holahan has you on the right track .Nice customer service too :thumbsup: Joe

Sandbagger

01-10-2011, 08:58 PM

Did you guys just lay a bead on the edge ? mig ? tig ?

Jay Hilliard

01-11-2011, 06:04 AM

Did you guys just lay a bead on the edge ? mig ? tig ?

No, we used 1/8" & 3/16" rod then TIG welded the rod to the door.

Jay Hilliard

01-11-2011, 06:06 AM

DOOM

01-11-2011, 06:24 AM

No, we used 1/8" & 3/16" rod then TIG welded the rod to the door.

WE!!!!! You mean Mr Holohan helped you weld up the doors!! WOW!! That is customer service!! Loving it Jay keep the pictures comming....

Jay Hilliard

01-11-2011, 07:10 AM

Thanks Mario,

I needed advice as I wasnt sure what the best fix was with my situation. Add to door and/or fender, disect part of the fender or cut fender brackets and move. This was my first outing with repop fenders. I have read numerous threads, etc but I guess you have to experience it yourself. :D

tones2SS

01-11-2011, 09:03 AM

Great job Jay. That looks great.
Keep us posted.

BBC71Nova

01-11-2011, 09:09 AM

Looking good Jay. Those are AMD fenders?

Comforting to hear more good things about Dan. If all goes as planned I should be meeting up with him in February :yes: .

Jay Hilliard

01-11-2011, 09:14 AM

Great job Jay. That looks great.
Keep us posted.

Thanks Tony!

Looking good Jay. Those are AMD fenders?

Comforting to hear more good things about Dan. If all goes as planned I should be meeting up with him in February :yes: .

Hey John...I will send you a PM as I dont want people to think I'm bashing a vendor as I am definitely not. I spoke with a fellow of the company and informed him of my issues and he was very responsive and was glad I called and asked me to send pics.

I guess I'm surprised that these aftermarket peices take so much loving or maybe its my OCD kicking in. :yes:

Let me know when you are bringing your Nova up. Im sure Dan will do an excellent job for you.

Frankenstine

01-17-2011, 08:38 PM

looking good Jay, been following your build, i'm origanaly from NC also.
I just purchased a 69 myself and will prob look Dan up when i get ready to start, Question? are the doors replacement? if so what manufacture? and also the fenders are they AMD? I was thinking about using AMD on my build. as mine will prob need fenders and doors and quarters, i'm not looking to start any negitive post about peplacement metal just trying to get an idea about whats out there.
thanks
keith

Jay Hilliard

01-18-2011, 02:20 PM

Hey Keith,

My doors are original with AMD skins. I used AMD qtrs and fenders. The fenders had nice crisp lines and aligned to the door peak nicely. I was disappointed with the size of the gap between door and fender. However, adding some filler rod to the doors fixed the gap issue and its a nice 3/16"-1/4" gap now. I am pleased with AMD sheetmetal, especially the gauge of the metal and lines compared to other makes.

I will try to get some updated pics showing gaps soon.

DFRESH

01-18-2011, 08:07 PM

That's awesome Jay--great to see the progress! That's cool that he came to your place and got the fix going on the doors right away. I couldn't even wish for something like that, so it amazes me that you got such a quick fix for a very important part of the car----the gaps---that's very cool.

Doug

Jay Hilliard

01-21-2011, 08:04 AM

Thanks Doug. Dan is a great guy, who has a passion for building/metal working cars. I can't thank him enough for coming by and helping me out.

Here are some pics of the final door/fender gaps. I think they turned out awesome. I'm happy with the end result.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0498.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0499.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0501.jpg

tones2SS

01-21-2011, 08:36 AM

Dan is going a great job. Those door gaps look great.:thumbsup:

Payton King

01-21-2011, 10:58 AM

Appear that you are moving right along.

Do you wnat me to pull those bushing out of the back of my car or did you already order the poly ones?

Rybar

01-21-2011, 12:49 PM

Car is looking good Jay

waynieZ

01-21-2011, 01:36 PM

The gaps look great Jay.

coolwelder62

01-21-2011, 04:21 PM

Jay, looking real good.I was worried that some one might call the gap police.But look's like Dan saved you.:lol: :lol: Scott

Jay Hilliard

01-21-2011, 07:26 PM

Thanks for the compliments guys. Scott, I dont know about gap police but I was afraid my youngest son would fall in the gap and never be seen again. :willy:

I dont have to worry now ;)

coolwelder62

01-21-2011, 08:11 PM

Thanks for the compliments guys. Scott, I dont know about gap police but I was afraid my youngest son would fall in the gap and never be seen again. :willy:

I dont have to worry now ;)

Jay, That's some funny sh(t right there.:lol: :lol:

Frankenstine

01-22-2011, 01:07 PM

Thanks Jay for the picks on the door gaps, those are very tite, what would be the norm on door gaps? you and Dan are doing some sweet work. Makes me want to get started on my ride.:thumbsup:

jay web

02-11-2011, 06:55 PM

what is TAKING so long?

Jay Hilliard

02-11-2011, 07:40 PM

what is TAKING so long?

Waiting on your slack back side to send me a check :unibrow:

BTW...When are you going to come visit?

jay web

02-13-2011, 12:44 PM

I wish I could write you a check, but I will come by soon - maybe next weekend? Check ....... that's funny

Frankenstine

04-21-2011, 09:20 PM

Jay we need UPDATES,UPDATES???????????? and pictures of UPDATES???????:willy: :thumbsup:

jay web

05-03-2011, 06:33 PM

yea what he said.

Jay Hilliard

05-04-2011, 06:07 AM

I took a break for awhile. I have been busy lately doing the small things, like fitting hood, headlight housings, grille, subframe connectors etc. I plan to get all this wrapped up soon so I can disassemble and put it on rotissere for seam sealing and spraying undercoating.

Jay Hilliard

06-06-2011, 02:29 PM

Finally got my hood gaps and cowl gaps like I wanted, etc. Put the leaf springs and rear under it Sat. and will install Hotchkis subframe connectors in this week.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC01192.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC01194.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0564.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC01193.jpg

coolwelder62

06-06-2011, 02:55 PM

Jay,Lookin real good.Hope to catch up w/you this year.:thumbsup: Scott.

badbu68

06-06-2011, 06:18 PM

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.

tones2SS

06-06-2011, 06:34 PM

Looking awesome Jay.

Jay Hilliard

06-07-2011, 02:00 PM

Thanks guys. Slow progress, but I guess slow is better than NO progress :-)

Scott, I will be at Goodguys Charlotte in Oct. Are you planning on coming down again?

coolwelder62

06-07-2011, 02:56 PM

Thanks guys. Slow progress, but I guess slow is better than NO progress :-)

Scott, I will be at Goodguys Charlotte in Oct. Are you planning on coming down again?Kevin and I are planning on coming down agian this year.Would like show up wed evening and have thurs to mess around.:lol:

Hotchkis

06-09-2011, 09:31 AM

g356gear

06-10-2011, 12:16 PM

Great Progress!:thumbsup:

Jay Hilliard

08-06-2011, 06:27 PM

Well, its been awhile since I last updated but Im making progress. I decided to go with DSE subframe connectors and modified them to bolt subframe in.

I got the steering column rebuilt and sprayed the trunk and floorpan with Raptor bedliner. I really like how that Raptor sprayed and I think it turned out great.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0610.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0617.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0611.jpg

coolwelder62

08-06-2011, 08:06 PM

Jay,Looks awesome.:thumbsup:

brans72

08-07-2011, 02:45 PM

So did you spray that in your garage Jay? If so tell me how messy was over spray/clean up. Did you find a better deal then Ebay $. I still wanna stop in maybe next weekend if you free to see your cars/get a few tips/talk a little.

Jay Hilliard

08-07-2011, 03:46 PM

Sprayed it in my shop...no mess or overspray. I got it for $99 a kit from TCPGlobal.com.

I will be working on it this week/Sat, so come on down.

DOOM

08-07-2011, 05:59 PM

Jay its lookin great !:wow: That Raptor is a good product you can get some nice textures out of it..

Jay Hilliard

09-04-2011, 04:52 PM

Jay its lookin great !:wow: That Raptor is a good product you can get some nice textures out of it..

Thanks Mario. Im really happy how it turned out. I like the texture and everyone who has seen it personally really likes it.

Jay Hilliard

09-04-2011, 05:00 PM

Dropped the car off last week to get painted. Here are a couple of progress pics.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC01264.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/DSC01268.jpg

BBC71Nova

09-04-2011, 07:40 PM

Coming right along now. What color you going with?

waynieZ

09-04-2011, 09:20 PM

It looks good!

Jay Hilliard

09-05-2011, 05:55 AM

Coming right along now. What color you going with?

John, It will be painted Glacier blue (original color) with Cortex silver DX1 stripe.

It looks good!

Thanks Wayne..so does yours. You are bout ready for paint too right?

waynieZ

09-05-2011, 09:24 AM

Thanks Still need roof seams and block sanding but Some other stuff to do first.

tones2SS

09-06-2011, 06:42 PM

Looking good Jay.

Payton King

09-07-2011, 12:54 PM

Is your wife getting excited? This is her car right?

70Nova

09-07-2011, 06:56 PM

Jay,

Just read your whole thread. Awesome looking job. I'll have to check out Dan's shop since its about 2 hours away.

Jon

coolwelder62

09-07-2011, 07:03 PM

Look's Good bud.:thumbsup:

HWY Nova

09-07-2011, 08:51 PM

Look's Good bud.:thumbsup:

I thought his name way Jay.

Jay Hilliard

09-25-2011, 11:11 AM

Cleaned, painted and installed BAER rear intergral brake hub, bracket and new Moser axles and aluminum cover

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0645.jpg

Car is ready for blocksanding

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0647.jpg

Boss 5.0

09-25-2011, 01:55 PM

I just went through the whole thread. Awesome project!! Dan does amazing work for sure and makes it look easy.

waynieZ

09-25-2011, 03:20 PM

Nice job on the rear. Its looking good.

Jay Hilliard

09-26-2011, 12:00 PM

Since my plan has been to use a ZZ427 in my wifes car, I have been looking for some headers. I found a super nice set made by Calvin Elston of Elston headers. They were custom built for a 502 crate engine in a 69 camaro with PS.

What is the best method to remove the gold and blueing? Is Glass beading ok or should I use some type of polish like metalwax, tumbling with media, etc.

I know they will turn again...just want to clean them up a bit.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0651.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0649.jpg

GregWeld

09-26-2011, 07:42 PM

Jay --

Mine are polished --- and that took a lot of sanding (various grits getting finer) and then they were polished. They have turned gold and blue in a couple spots (like where 4 and 6 are going from the individual tube to the larger tube)... and I've re-polished them... and they're gold and blue within the next 25 miles...

So my advice is to just bolt them up... anything more is a complete waste of time if you plan to so much as start the motor ONCE!

They're going to look EXACTLY like what they do now -- unless you ceramic coat them. I talked to my coater and he told me he could "cut" the amount of bluing etc by coating ONLY the insides... so maybe I'll have him do it this winter.

GregWeld

09-26-2011, 07:52 PM

PS ---

I was TOLD that if you BARELY WARM the header --- and then liberally apply Simichrome and allow to "soak" for 3 minutes or so... then polish off... that it does a good job of removal of the gold... and it supposedly retards it's return.

The same company sells a product called BLUEAWAY... I've not tried it yet - but plan to. It's for removing bluing from exhaust... like on motorcycles... so maybe it's just the trick.

http://www.competitionchemicals.com/blueaway/

Jay Hilliard

09-27-2011, 07:59 AM

thanks Greg. I have heard of Blue Away. I know they will turn blue and gold again, just wanted to clean them up some and was told chemicals like metalwax and blue away would help the bluing from coming back as bad. Its not a major deal, just thought I would ask.

BBC71Nova

09-27-2011, 08:11 AM

coolwelder62

09-27-2011, 09:20 AM

Lookin good Jay.:thumbsup:

Jay Hilliard

09-27-2011, 10:42 AM

Camaro's deserve clean, shiny headers. However, a junky ol' Nova -uhm like mine- they would be well suited for. You should just box them up and I'll take them off your hands :D

Those are nice looking for sure. Nice score. The car is coming along nicely. Can't wait to see some color pics.

haha! Thx...my wife can't wait for it to be painted also. I saw your car Sat. It's looking great. I wish I had a T-56. :yes: I also like the weight of your hood.

Lookin good Jay.:thumbsup:

Thanks Scott. Let me if you are able to make it down to Goodguys Charlotte. Its coming up fast.

ErikLS2

09-27-2011, 02:47 PM

If you search some of the Harley-Davidson boards you'll find several methods and products that they claim work really well for the blueing, both removal and prevention.

Ron in SoCal

09-27-2011, 05:13 PM

If you search some of the Harley-Davidson boards you'll find several methods and products that they claim work really well for the blueing, both removal and prevention.

Been biting my tongue on this topic. Not that anyone is wrong here - especially you Eric since I quoted you - but my personal experience was that the blue gone products suck. Now it's been a few years and maybe I did it wrong (possible but I seriously doubt it), but it only lightened up the blue a little bit. It did dull the chrome and the blue came back maybe 90% on the next heat cycle. I'm certain my (dyno)tune was correct so that wasn't the issue. A plating shop told me that the heat which causes blueing permanently changes the compostiion of the chrome. Stainless might be a different story?

Just my .03 and I've built a bunch of Harleys...

Jay Hilliard

11-04-2011, 05:37 PM

Car is painted and needs to be wet sanded and buffed. My wife also got an early Christmas present today. Man Baer makes some nice stuff.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0046.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0047.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0061.jpg

SS4's for rear
http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0057.jpg

GregWeld

11-04-2011, 05:40 PM

YEAH BUDDY! Don't you just love THEIR birthdays and THEIR Christmas presents.... :D

waynieZ

11-04-2011, 05:42 PM

The paint looks great, and I agree they do have some very nice part!

GregWeld

11-04-2011, 05:43 PM

Been biting my tongue on this topic. Not that anyone is wrong here - especially you Eric since I quoted you - but my personal experience was that the blue gone products suck. Now it's been a few years and maybe I did it wrong (possible but I seriously doubt it), but it only lightened up the blue a little bit. It did dull the chrome and the blue came back maybe 90% on the next heat cycle. I'm certain my (dyno)tune was correct so that wasn't the issue. A plating shop told me that the heat which causes blueing permanently changes the compostiion of the chrome. Stainless might be a different story?

Just my .03 and I've built a bunch of Harleys...

TRUST ME --- Stainless isn't any different -- the BLUE AWAY dulled the polished surface (was like a mirror - maybe even better!).... and it all discolored within a couple minutes of firing it off... JUST A GIGANTIC WASTE OF TIME.

Spiffav8

11-04-2011, 06:39 PM

Jay....I love the color! The car is really coming out nice.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Jay Hilliard

11-04-2011, 08:57 PM

YEAH BUDDY! Don't you just love THEIR birthdays and THEIR Christmas presents.... :D

Yes, I do :unibrow:

Thanks Wayne and Curtis. That is the original color (Glacier blue). My wife and I cant hardly wait to see it in person.

rocketrod

11-05-2011, 04:06 AM

Car is coming along nicely Jay!!!!!

Frankenstine

11-05-2011, 08:33 PM

Hey Jay met you and your wife and kids at Dans on the open house, the car is looking fantastic, paint looks awsome, just went Sat (5th) and picked mine up from TN, cant wait to get it taken apart, and over to Dans so he can work his magic on it. I might post up some picks of it if I can find my camera,

Jay Hilliard

11-06-2011, 05:52 AM

Car is coming along nicely Jay!!!!!

Thanks Rod. Now If I just get my rims and tires....:mad:

Hey Jay met you and your wife and kids at Dans on the open house, the car is looking fantastic, paint looks awsome, just went Sat (5th) and picked mine up from TN, cant wait to get it taken apart, and over to Dans so he can work his magic on it. I might post up some picks of it if I can find my camera,

Hey Keith...It was nice meeting you and hanging out at Dan's talking cars,etc. Thanks for the compliments. Congrats on getting the car and you definitely need to start a thread and post pics. :thumbsup:

awr68

11-06-2011, 09:02 AM

Looking great! Very exciting times!!!

jay web

11-07-2011, 01:23 PM

I cant wait to see it, either. I really need to stop by and see you guys. (and the shop, and the car(s)). looks really good.

BBC71Nova

11-07-2011, 01:36 PM

Really nice Jay. Great color combo. What wheels are you gonna be running?

Jay Hilliard

11-07-2011, 06:07 PM

I cant wait to see it, either. I really need to stop by and see you guys. (and the shop, and the car(s)). looks really good.

I thought you were coming over months ago during the summer. You know you are welcome anytime.

Really nice Jay. Great color combo. What wheels are you gonna be running?

Thx John. Rushforth 18" super spokes, polished lip with brushed centers. Im expecting Driverz Inc to call me with a tracking number any day now.

tones2SS

11-07-2011, 06:44 PM

Looks great Jay.
What color is that? Goes well with the bumble bee stripe.

Jay Hilliard

11-08-2011, 05:51 AM

Looks great Jay.
What color is that? Goes well with the bumble bee stripe.

Its the original color Glacier blue with cortex silver DX1 stripe. It starts just like a bumble bee stripe, but in the pic you can see how the stripe turns and goes up the hood and eventually tapers to a point.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0068.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0069.jpg

coolwelder62

11-08-2011, 06:15 AM

Jay,Way cool.Going to be a very nice when it's finished.:thumbsup:

Jay Hilliard

11-08-2011, 06:41 AM

Jay,Way cool.Going to be a very nice when it's finished.:thumbsup:

Thanks Scott. Im hoping so, because when I pick it up Sat, the rest is on me to finish (well except interior).

Since its my wife's car, it better be nice when finished or Im in trouble. :_paranoid

DOOM

11-08-2011, 07:04 AM

Great color combo Jay!!!

Jay Hilliard

11-09-2011, 05:48 AM

Great color combo Jay!!!

Thx Mario. I have never seen this color on a camaro in person, just in pics over the years. It is different and since its the original color, it should please some of the purist's too :unibrow:

How is your car coming along?

DOOM

11-09-2011, 06:48 AM

Thx Mario. I have never seen this color on a camaro in person, just in pics over the years. It is different and since its the original color, it should please some of the purist's too :unibrow:

How is your car coming along?

Differents good Jay ! This combo is going to really stand out..:wow:

My car is coming along slow my shop been busy. So the toys get put on the back burner. Troy at BBT is about to shoot me I've missed two deadlines. But I just took on another bodyman to help free up my time so I'll be back to work on it and get this thing to Troy..

69x22

11-09-2011, 11:02 AM

Those colors look perfect together.

Jay Hilliard

11-13-2011, 10:07 AM

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0080.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0085.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0084.jpg

wrighton

11-13-2011, 11:04 AM

WOW, Nicely done:thumbsup:

coolwelder62

11-13-2011, 12:01 PM

Very nice Jay.:thumbsup:

Richio1

11-13-2011, 01:17 PM

Nice! I love that color. Can't wait to see it done. Congrats

camcojb

11-13-2011, 01:25 PM

that looks great Jay, love that color.

Jay Hilliard

11-13-2011, 02:20 PM

That's looking really good Jay! Reminds me of a Silver Blue Metallic 64 Corvette I did about 10 years ago. I always liked the color of that car and from the pictures the Glacier Blue looks pretty similar. :thumbsup:

Thanks for the compliments guys. You cant wipe the smile off my wife's face.

James. I know the color you are talking about. Its pretty close and I believe the 66-67 chevelles had the same color but called a different name of course. You know how GM was back then...same color with 5 different names. :yes:

DOOM

11-13-2011, 05:10 PM

Jay I can't say enuff how awsome that color choice is !!! The car is going to be stunning!!!:wow:

Payton King

11-14-2011, 07:17 AM

That was the original color of my car. Makes me have second thoughts on the yellow.

Look forward to seeing it completed.

Jay Hilliard

11-14-2011, 07:51 AM

Jay I can't say enuff how awsome that color choice is !!! The car is going to be stunning!!!:wow:

Thx Mario. My wife is so excited. Cant wipe the smile off her face.

That was the original color of my car. Makes me have second thoughts on the yellow.

Thanks man! Nothing wrong with that yellow either.:unibrow:

BBC71Nova

11-14-2011, 08:04 AM

Looks fantastic. Awesome shop too.

Jay Hilliard

11-14-2011, 08:33 AM

Looks fantastic. Awesome shop too.

Thanks John. You made any progress on your Nova?

syborg tt

11-14-2011, 08:40 AM

I can't tell you how much I love this color. The 70 I am working on was this color originally and I am so happy you painted your car this color. As now I can see what it actually looks like and it's awesome. !!!!!

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0080.jpg

Jay Hilliard

11-14-2011, 08:47 AM

I can't tell you how much I love this color. The 70 I am working on was this color originally and I am so happy you painted your car this color. As now I can see what it actually looks like and it's awesome. !!!!!

Thanks! I was hoping the color would turn out well and my wife and I cannot be more pleased. And since its her car, if she is happy, everybody is happy. :thumbsup:

So, are you going to paint your 70 this color now?

DIGI-TAILS

11-14-2011, 09:02 AM

Very Nice!!! :thumbsup: Superb choice of color... :)

syborg tt

11-14-2011, 09:36 AM

So, are you going to paint your 70 this color now?

Yep - or something very similar.

tones2SS

11-14-2011, 06:44 PM

Great color. That stripe/stripe color go great with that blue.
Very nice Jay.

Frankenstine

11-14-2011, 07:02 PM

Hey Jay, The color on that car is outstanding, I have never seen that combo before, All I can say is WOW, cant wait to see it finished, Makes me want too go and cash in my 401 and get mine going in that direction????? and to think I just got mine up on jackstands to get started taking it apart, seeing her car makes me wanna get it going and get it done, screw the 3-5 year plan LOL :D

Jay Hilliard

11-16-2011, 06:51 PM

Thanks Keith. I do like the color/combination. Come down anytime and check it out. You finding anything unexpected on your car?

Take your time to make your decisions. Worst thing is to decide/buy something and change your mind. That kind of stuff can be a budget killer quick.
Nice thing about this site, is people will try their best to help out, answer questions, etc. There is a wealth of knowledge here.

Simmo

11-17-2011, 01:12 AM

You've cracked it with that colour, original and very very cool.

HOLOHAN'S HOT ROD SHOP

11-18-2011, 06:17 AM

Very nice, subtle, classy look with the body and stripe colors, should look great with Donna's wheel choice

Jay Hilliard

11-18-2011, 11:07 AM

Thanks Dan! It all started with your excellent metal work. :thumbsup:

Thank you for all your help and guidance you have given me. Very much appreciated buddy.

Jay Hilliard

12-01-2011, 09:55 AM

awr68

12-01-2011, 10:37 AM

Looks great, what a nice package!! :thumbsup:

mild2wild

12-01-2011, 11:06 AM

Very sharp combo!

Ron in SoCal

12-01-2011, 11:28 AM

Nice Jay! Those wheels compliment the car perfectly....:thumbsup:

coolwelder62

12-01-2011, 12:49 PM

Jay look's awesome.Really coming togather nicely.:thumbsup:

Rybar

12-01-2011, 12:57 PM

Great wheel choice. Looking good

Spiffav8

12-01-2011, 01:45 PM

Very Nice. Great choice on the wheels.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Jay Hilliard

12-01-2011, 04:14 PM

Thanks guys. I have always liked Jason's Super Spoke design. Im glad my wife agreed. I knew she had good taste. :unibrow: :rofl:

tones2SS

12-01-2011, 06:17 PM

Looks great Jay. Your wife is getting a killer car!

CornHusker4Life

12-02-2011, 06:38 AM

Where in Nebraska did you kind this car?:D

JayR

12-02-2011, 10:03 AM

Received Rushforth Super Spokes for the wife's car. 18's with polished lip and brushed/coated centers.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0108.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0109.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp243/JayandDonna/69%20Camaro%20Project/IMG_0113.jpg

Thanks guys. I have always liked Jason's Super Spoke design. Im glad my wife agreed. I knew she had good taste. :unibrow: :rofl:

Love the car, Jay! Thanks for wanting to run our wheels on it! You and your wife obviously have good taste! LOL

Jay Hilliard

12-02-2011, 10:03 AM

Where in Nebraska did you kind this car?:D

Plattsmouth

jay web

12-02-2011, 12:21 PM

looks good - I will see it in person soon hopefully.

Ricochet

12-02-2011, 12:43 PM

Looks great! Like the color choice! The wheel choice ain't so bad either! :lol:

Jay Hilliard

12-02-2011, 07:40 PM

Love the car, Jay! Thanks for wanting to run our wheels on it! You and your wife obviously have good taste! LOL

Thanks Jason. Like I said, always really liked the design, so it was not a very hard decision.

I will see it in person soon hopefully.

Yeah...yeah...I have heard that before :P

Jay Hilliard

12-02-2011, 07:49 PM

Looks great Jay. Your wife is getting a killer car!
Her's is killing mine....but it's an excuse to redo mine after her's right?

Looking really good Jay! Keep the pictures coming! :thumbsup:

Looks great! Like the color choice! The wheel choice ain't so bad either! :lol:

Thanks for the kind words guys. I hoped the colors/wheel choice would turn out well, but it has turned out better than I envisioned.