Whos camaro is this wrecking at Thunderhill? [Archive]

70rs

03-30-2010, 05:49 PM

So much for that original sheet metal huh? That looked like a pretty hard hit. Ouch!!

The car looks familiar but I can't place it. Maybe just saw it in a magazine ad?

coolwelder62

03-30-2010, 05:59 PM

Man that's a bitc#.If it had been me I wouldn't have had enough ball's to post it on you tube.Maybe he just really wanted to build a new car.

1HTBRRD

03-30-2010, 06:05 PM

ouch...my heart just sank for that guy

monza

03-30-2010, 06:10 PM

Double Ouch! That hurts, can't believe how calm he was after the crash... I kinda think swear words would still be coming out of my mouth.

Aschle

03-30-2010, 06:54 PM

I don't know who the owner is, but the windshield banner is Speed Merchants out of San Jose, likely semi local to that area... Poor guy :(

Jason

ArisESQ

03-30-2010, 07:42 PM

Yea, I've seen that car at speed merchant before. I think I had heard of that crash some time ago.

If I remember correctly it had a loooot of work done to it.

buickfunnycar.com

03-30-2010, 09:15 PM

Double Ouch! That hurts, can't believe how calm he was after the crash... I kinda think swear words would still be coming out of my mouth.

Word...I'd make a drunken sailor blush!

That is very sad,looks like the rear slid out and he tapped the wall on the left then overcorrected into the wall on the right.

Looks and sounded like a sweet car...

KPC67

03-30-2010, 09:30 PM

Double Ouch! That hurts, can't believe how calm he was after the crash... I kinda think swear words would still be coming out of my mouth.

I was thinking the same thing..

Flash68

03-30-2010, 09:35 PM

Wow. That isn't fun. Yeah I remember seeing that at Goodies/Speed Merchants forever as well a couple years ago.

zbugger

03-31-2010, 12:13 AM

That looks a lot like Karl Chicca's car. The Speed Merchant logo kinda gives it away. It was a incredibly nice car. I saw it a couple times at Speed Merchant.

6spdcamaro

03-31-2010, 03:09 AM

http://lifesgoodracing.com/index.php
Thats the racing team mentioned at the end of the video. Too bad, it looked like a very nice car :(

clill

03-31-2010, 06:50 AM

Steve1968LS2

03-31-2010, 07:09 AM

Word...I'd make a drunken sailor blush!

That is very sad,looks like the rear slid out and he tapped the wall on the left then overcorrected into the wall on the right.

Looks and sounded like a sweet car...

back went into grass.. lost traction, pivoted, went back on track, regained traction but in a bad way..

What a shame..

But I still say that tracking a car is WAY safer than driving with Joe Public on the highways.

Blake Foster

03-31-2010, 07:19 AM

Well isn't that the reality of all this???? we all think it won't happen, but i guess it does.
it SUCKS!! glad the guy was ok

tones2SS

03-31-2010, 07:20 AM

Damn, that sucks. Tough break.:(

buickfunnycar.com

03-31-2010, 07:40 AM

There is no wall on the left, just lots of field.

Sure sounded like he kissed the drivers side rear qtr first...but I could be wrong.

camcojb

03-31-2010, 07:48 AM

Sure sounded like he kissed the drivers side rear qtr first...but I could be wrong.
nope, only two walls to hit at that track, One just a turn prior to the video starting, and the main straight wall to protect the pit entrance and cars lining up for the next race, which is the one he hit. It did sound like a wall he hit, but that's a rumble strip on the exit of the corner.

Jody

Bow Tie 67

03-31-2010, 08:33 AM

Yep, dropping a rear wheel off, especially in a corner, will end one of two ways.

1. Ass puckered and heart rate jump

2. Same as 1 including out of control slide.

Viperlover

03-31-2010, 09:18 AM

Just how I wrecked a 2000 mustang GT with the back left going off the road coming out of a corner, except it snapped back and forth about 3 times, then spun right nearly all the way around backwards. trees. ditch. totaled. lesson learned the hard way.

mad68rs

03-31-2010, 11:03 AM

Bow Tie 67

03-31-2010, 11:39 AM

Is there anyway he could have prevented this? It didn't sound like he got out of it when he dipped his tired in the grass... I'm not sure if he knew his tire was on the grass or not. Do you get out of it and try to get back on track? Or do you continue on the run off area? Just not sure how to handle a situation like this...

It all depends, I would try and stabilize the throttle. But once it starts to slide, all bets are off. I lost traction accelerating out of a corner and instead of easing off the go pedal I tried to ride it until I caught traction. Big mistake, the car snapped when I left off.

Matt@BOS

03-31-2010, 11:42 AM

Is there anyway he could have prevented this? It didn't sound like he got out of it when he dipped his tired in the grass... I'm not sure if he knew his tire was on the grass or not. Do you get out of it and try to get back on track? Or do you continue on the run off area? Just not sure how to handle a situation like this...

Its kind of hard to say, from my understanding of vehicle dynamics if you're experiencing oversteer you need to load the car's weight over the front enough to optimize steering, by lifting off the gas, or braking a bit, as soon as you have enough weight transfer, steer out and apply more throttle as you straighten up. I learned all of this at a driving school, and only practiced at low speeds, so I'm sure saving the car here could be a bit more nuanced. Maybe someone else will chime in.

monza

03-31-2010, 11:42 AM

Is there anyway he could have prevented this? It didn't sound like he got out of it when he dipped his tired in the grass... I'm not sure if he knew his tire was on the grass or not. Do you get out of it and try to get back on track? Or do you continue on the run off area? Just not sure how to handle a situation like this...

(I'm a track novice)
Always easy to back seat drive... but technically your never really supposed to 'snap' back on the track, but I don't think he really does that? Should he have kept going off track causing a spin? Maybe because clearly what he did, did not work. It seems like he did nothing to turn left to avoid the barrier but damn it was all so quick. I'd guess he was split second thinking mellow don't spin out oh oh barrier...
Interested what the pros have to say.

chevyhector

03-31-2010, 11:43 AM

Can you post a different form of the pic? I cant see it on my PC.

bSikMhXolDg

tough break and pains me to see... :faint:

buickfunnycar.com

03-31-2010, 12:18 PM

It did sound like a wall he hit, but that's a rumble strip on the exit of the corner...

Thanks Jody for the clarification...I knew I heard something.

Ron in SoCal

03-31-2010, 12:37 PM

http://lifesgoodracing.com/index.php
Thats the racing team mentioned at the end of the video. Too bad, it looked like a very nice car :(

Anyone see this?

http://lifesgoodracing.com/gallery/78TransAm/index.php

rogue

03-31-2010, 01:40 PM

Is there anyway he could have prevented this? It didn't sound like he got out of it when he dipped his tired in the grass... I'm not sure if he knew his tire was on the grass or not. Do you get out of it and try to get back on track? Or do you continue on the run off area? Just not sure how to handle a situation like this...

Easily. For one he had way too much confidence coming into the second turn into the vid, for two, he was off line. Should have slowed. His pucker factor should have happened just before that turn and braked. Would have been fine and it would have slowed his time. Instead he went balls out throttle trying to get back onto the track.

Maintenance throttle can go a long way as well and respect for power, seems the driver was fond of the right pedal.

rogue

03-31-2010, 01:44 PM

In fact, if you watch the video and listen to the throttle, his tires started speaking to him, screaming for help before the apex of the turn, but instead of listening to them, he stayed in the throttle rather than easing out or applying a small amount of brake. You can hear the tires hopping when his right foot gets off the pedal and back on again and again. That car told him what was going to happen, he wasn't listening sadly. :(

That said, **** happens at the track. Seems like he was outdriving the tires, which many of us are guilty of. I prefer to outdrive my tires where there are no ditches, walls and plenty of run off.

rogue

03-31-2010, 01:47 PM

It all depends, I would try and stabilize the throttle. But once it starts to slide, all bets are off. I lost traction accelerating out of a corner and instead of easing off the go pedal I tried to ride it until I caught traction. Big mistake, the car snapped when I left off.

You can clearly hear his throttle blipping as the tires give way, had he let off just a tiny bit and braked a bit, pucker factor over and turn would have been fine. With a properly setup pony car its amazing how much steering you actually do with your right foot.

DRJDVM's '69

03-31-2010, 06:17 PM

I've driven that track quite a few times..... I was suprised that this was the turn he lost it on. There are definitely a couple of other turns that are more technically difficult. As Jody stated, there is no wall on the left....only grass. It's the last turn before a big long straight..... the first thought I had was that he was really trying to carry alot of speed into that turn so he could haul ass down the straight.

What a shame....

Vince@Meanstreets

04-01-2010, 11:39 PM

OUUUCH, that hurts to watch,

almost sounds like his throttle stuck....

heres another bad one...

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jeff71

04-02-2010, 10:04 AM

His name is Carl Chica and he lives in the Bay Area, as far as I know he's been tracking the car for quite a few rears now I dont know when this wreck happened but he has had a glass clip on it for a some years.

Jeff