69 Camaro on ebay.....

[phillym5]

I thought maybe some of you would like to watch this. I know nothing about it.. but it seems to be bringing some pretty good money.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-69-X66-SS396-TRUE-X66-SS-CAMARO-CUSTOM-468-VIPER-6SPEED-DSE-SUSP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2558a8f649QQitemZ1 60401258057QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks#ht_3418wt_1167

[Junkie]

That just looks like what he has his opening bid set at. That car looks really nice but ive been looking all over for them and price shopping, highly doubt it brings over 80k. It takes real big power to fetch the big money from what ive seen recently.

[70rs]

Pretty strong money. I wonder if it is real bids? Looks to be a nice car. It has a nice parts list anyway.

Thanks for posting it. It will be interesting to see what happens.

[phillym5]

That just looks like what he has his opening bid set at. That car looks really nice but ive been looking all over for them and price shopping, highly doubt it brings over 80k. It takes real big power to fetch the big money from what ive seen recently.

It says there is 18 bids already.....

[Junkie]

It says there is 18 bids already.....

lol my bad i noticed that right after i posted. From what ive seen on ebay for the past 6-8months i HIGHLY doubt those are legit bids. There was a sick Silver 67 or 68 that has been up multiple times and hasn't sold yet.

[camcojb]

I would bet those are his friends helping him out on that one............. :yes:

[BritishGreen68]

certainly has one of the best stance/ wheels and tires setup ive seen..

[Lenie]

Hard to tell not seeing it in person but appears to be and extremely nice vehicle. Very tastefully done.

[XcYZ]

$142,000 and they didn't paint the grill surround... or they painted it the same color that is comes out of the box. lol

[MarkM66]

Another horrible ebay ad. Junk pictures. Not even a shot of the underside.

Good for him if it's real money. But any ad with "private listing - bidders' identities protected" is BS IMO.

Two dual reservoir master cylinders? :question:

10,000 man hours? WTF!

[Jay Hilliard]

"468 cubic inch BIG BLOCK STROKER built by HAYDOCK RACING estimated 600+hp/600+torq (XTRA THICK 396 BLOCK BORED AND STROKED TO 468".

Very nice car..no doubt. But what gives? For 142K, I want real dyno numbers, not estimated. :rolleyes: Never heard of an xtra thick 396 block.

[Roger M]

I would bet those are his friends helping him out on that one............. :yes:

I agree.

If this car is worth that kind of money... how come Charley's white car sat stale at 100k on ebay... :rolleyes:

[chr2002ca]

Like others said, don't always believe bids you see on Ebay, especially if the reserve hasn't been met yet. Unfortunately, for high-dollar items, a number of people use their buddies to bid the item up to a point right below the reserve, so the next person to come in(all excited by seeing the bids and interest in the car) and make his own bid will hit the reserve causing that bidder to be contractually bound to pay. Or, the seller does 2 auctions, the first auction is used to hype the car with some very high false bidding and then the 2nd auction is where they truly try to sell the car at a much lower reserve. "Wow, people were willing to pay $148K for this car 2 weeks ago, it's a steal now at $90K." They can also use these false auctions to convince someone to buy it from them outside of Ebay. "Hey man, you see what's it's being bid up to on Ebay don't you?"

It's a definitely a nice car though. I hope the seller fetches a reasonable price for it and the buyer is happy with it.

[Rick D]

I agree.

If this car is worth that kind of money... how come Charley's white car sat stale at 100k on ebay... :rolleyes:

I was thinking the same thing, but Camaro X didn't have a DSE sub frame in it but thats not worth 45,000.00 more. And 10,000 hours NO WAY unless this was their first build and they are accounting for all the learning and mistakes that where made :rolleyes:. There isn't anything really custom as far as body mod's??? Not bashing the car as from the pictures it looks nicely done and has some very good parts that's for sure. Not a big fan of the audio stuff I like to listen my engine. He needs to redo that listing with LOTS of picture's of everything including build pictures, and then he would get some real bids. But I'm sure that is just for advertising for their shop :yes:

[Rybar]

Seems like some shilling going on for sure.

That interior just is not doing it for me at all :thmbsdwn:

I do like the exterior look, wheels and stance :thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

Clearly a bogus auction on a decent car.:unibrow:

[ironworks]

If I had 10,000 hours in that car I would not not tell a single soul.

[JKnight]

Definitely a nice car and parts list, but....exhaust just doesn't fit the style of the build, plus it just doesn't look very well executed. Maybe it just needs to be painted black, kinda looks like a sore thumb as it is now.

I'm with Ryan on the interior, there's some very nice pieces and significant work but the overall look is just not very good.

10,000 hours for a bolt together car is quite scary.

[GregWeld]

If I had 10,000 hours in that car I would not not tell a single soul.


No..... If YOU had 10,000 hours in that car - it would be really, really, Kool.... and 142K would be an opening bid.

But.... having said that... you didn't, and it ain't.


:rofl:

[Steve1968LS2]

If I had 10,000 hours in that car I would not not tell a single soul.

Maybe it was 1000 hours but they had to re-do it ten times.. lol

10,000 hours is ONE MILLIONS DOLLARS at $100 and hour..

So what they are saying is that there's a Million Bucks in that car.. or more money and fab time than the Roadster Shop Corvette? lol

Sweet car, but I hate when people overstate stuff.

[Van B]

Another horrible ebay ad. Junk pictures. Not even a shot of the underside.

Good for him if it's real money. But any ad with "private listing - bidders' identities protected" is BS IMO.

Two dual reservoir master cylinders? :question:

10,000 man hours? WTF!

Furthermore, there is really no point in a private listing anymore since no one can see the bidder's identity but the seller. My money is on "not real bids".

[Jim Nilsen]

Like others said, don't always believe bids you see on Ebay, especially if the reserve hasn't been met yet. Unfortunately, for high-dollar items, a number of people use their buddies to bid the item up to a point right below the reserve, so the next person to come in(all excited by seeing the bids and interest in the car) and make his own bid will hit the reserve causing that bidder to be contractually bound to pay. Or, the seller does 2 auctions, the first auction is used to hype the car with some very high false bidding and then the 2nd auction is where they truly try to sell the car at a much lower reserve. "Wow, people were willing to pay $148K for this car 2 weeks ago, it's a steal now at $90K." They can also use these false auctions to convince someone to buy it from them outside of Ebay. "Hey man, you see what's it's being bid up to on Ebay don't you?"

It's a definitely a nice car though. I hope the seller fetches a reasonable price for it and the buyer is happy with it.


If I ever have to sell my car I am going to have to remember these tricks to get more exposure and the best ebay price to show prospective buyers.

Nice car but the hours they say they have in it would mean one heck of a learning curve on everything from building the engine to how do I put lug nuts on school ,LOL!!!!

[Richio1]

Yeah, what everyone else pointed out.

No way 10K hours...even at $60 an hour thats $600K plus the $150K in parts (hard to believe) that is still a $750K car to build...

[DFRESH]

Come on Greg, here's your chance--you can join us on the Camaro Site for reals (as my kids say)---just put in a $150k bid on that thing--you can tell Charley that this car had way more hours put into it than JA, and the X-Tra-thick-396.

Man, after all this bashing, I hope one of the members here isn't bidding on it and introduces themselves under new members next week. That could be uncomfortable, except for Todd of course.

[72Z/28]

I believe they are asking too much for this camaro especially when it has stock subframe and this engine set up.

I really like the way cars built by reputable builders in this forum like DSE, Prodigy Customs and Fesler..

[MarkM66]

I believe they are asking too much for this camaro especially when it has stock subframe and this engine set up.

I really like the way cars built by reputable builders in this forum like DSE, Prodigy Customs and Fesler..

Ad states it's a DSE frame..... not that it matter much.

[GregWeld]

Come on Greg, here's your chance--you can join us on the Camaro Site for reals (as my kids say)---just put in a $150k bid on that thing--you can tell Charley that this car had way more hours put into it than JA, and the X-Tra-thick-396.

Man, after all this bashing, I hope one of the members here isn't bidding on it and introduces themselves under new members next week. That could be uncomfortable, except for Todd of course.


I called Charley -- He refused to back me on the bidding. Told me "your skull, is extra thick"... :rofl:

What is an "extra thick 396 block"? My recollection of 396's is that they were just factory castings... and that they were easy to window.


I'm no engine builder - heck - I can barely identify a cam from a crank... but I really don't understand the "extra thick" reference... perhaps he meant extra thick as compared to a standard casting -- but that could mean that the one he was lucky enough to have surveyed was a few thousandth thicker than "the other one" they looked at....

I Cut and pasted this from a build article in HOT ROD....

Dougan's Engine helped us survey the Merlin III block with a sonic checker, and we found cylinder thrust surfaces averaged 0.440-inch thick at a 4.490 bore, and would end up even thicker than World's guarantee of at least 0.225 at 4.625 bore. Stock blocks are as thin as 0.300 inch at standard bore, and 0.285 at 0.060 over. Likewise, Merlin deck thickness and consistency is far superior to a stock block.

To get 468 out of a 396 - you'd have a bore of 4.185 and a 4.250 stroke... That's a .091 overbore - which can be done... but I wouldn't do it. Particularly not if I was investing 10,000 hours into a build! :rofl:

[GregWeld]

Just for fun I researched HAYDOCK RACING -- and could only come up with RACE HORSES - but not the kind of horses we discuss here....

[GregWeld]

I finally found Haydock Racing - and there is such a place that works on or builds motors... But I did get a good laugh at the Haydock Racing that comes up when you google that name... its pages and pages of race horse and horse racing info.

[Vegas69]

I'll educate you a little old man. The 396 blocks had a little more meat than say an 80's 454 block. They can be bored .100 if sonic checked.:unibrow:

[DOOM]

I'll educate you a little old man. The 396 blocks had a little more meat than say an 80's 454 block. They can be bored .100 if sonic checked.:unibrow:

AHH, Greg you just got schooled!!!:D

[MarkM66]

I'll educate you a little old man. The 396 blocks had a little more meat than say an 80's 454 block. They can be bored .100 if sonic checked.:unibrow:

The only reason someone would do such a thing, is they're just being cheap.

Should of used a better suited block. 396 blocks are worthless, unless going for numbers match stuff.

[Vegas69]

In that caliber of car, I agree.

[tgvettes]

well considering that the 396 block is 4" bore and the 454 is 4.250 from a start the bored and stroked 396 probably doesn't have any more meat then if they had build it on a 454 base from a start. plus the newer the castings is I'm sure would be better. Also Considering that the seller says that he spent $150K on parts I have no clue why he doesn't have an all aluminum big inch big block in it.

Tonny

[GregWeld]

Then his name would be TODD!!

EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA


:hail: :hail:

[PRRC]

If I had 10,000 hours in that car I would not not tell a single soul.

lmao! :lol:

[Spiffav8]

Then his name would be TODD!!

EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA


:hail: :hail:


LMAO :lol:

[Scotch]

sooooooo....


Scott's car must be worth 250K then?


I trust nothing built by anyone who chooses to call themselves "Stallion" and/or uses the words "Orange Leather" anywhere in their ad...

[GregWeld]

sooooooo....


Scott's car must be worth 250K then?


I trust nothing built by anyone who chooses to call themselves "Stallion" and/or uses the words "Orange Leather" anywhere in their ad...

Words like this would change the description to PLEATHER...


Just exactly like it.... only.... different!

:lol:

[Huxsol81]

:rofl: