How about a guess at what "Reactor" brings today on Barrett.....

[phillym5]

Im going to guess 185k...
I would love to see it go 400+... but stuff seems super low this time around.

[skatinjay27]

225 ish

[Flash68]

145k.

[JohnC]

What time is it?

My guess is 165k..

[70rs]

155k:_paranoid

at 140k now on stage


SOLD at 145k plus fees. Seems low to me....

[Camaroguy]

I would hope 200+, but its twin is going across about now. Copperback is lot 1260 I think, might make a difference.

[phillym5]

155k:_paranoid

at 140k now on stage


SOLD at 145k plus fees. Seems low to me....

That was Copperback...
still... that seems awful low.

[70rs]

That was Copperback...
still... that seems awful low.

My bad. see the other thread that explains where my head is stuck right now....a very dark place....:rofl:

[pokey64]

Reactor is lot 1287.

I hope it brings more than Copperback. I've seen Reactor in person but not Copperback. From pictures it looks like they stepped it up a couple notches with Reactor IMO. Plus the owners live near me and I'd like to see them continue to build these kind of vehicles. They also had a 37 Ford (lot 1252) that went accross earlier...

[Van B]

Reactor is lot 1287.

I hope it brings more than Copperback. I've seen Reactor in person but not Copperback. From pictures it looks like they stepped it up a couple notches with Reactor IMO. Plus the owners live near me and I'd like to see them continue to build these kind of vehicles. They also had a 37 Ford (lot 1252) that went accross earlier...

That wasn't the Lakeside (Roger Burman) car was it? Car was bad a$$.

[zbugger]

At what things are going for right now, I say 220k. But the money's been going way up the last hour.

[zbugger]

lol.... Watching online I see right after I posted that it's at 230k. And that's what it sold for.

[syclonetommy]

lol.... Watching online I see right after I posted that it's at 230k. And that's what it sold for.


Hell of a lot of car.

Seems like a good number.


Tom

[1969x11]

Not bad , but I bet they had 350 plus in the car. Someone's got a bad ride for a good price.

[Camaroguy]

I would be feeling sick! It sold for $230 with commish he is down to $211 and then a couple thousand for transportation and registering then spending a week in Scottsdale. I am sure there is $350 or so in this car, a $140 or 50 thousand dollar lost to me would really ruin your night. I know Doug has tried to sell it outside of Barrett, so I guess this is the only place he was able to get that kind of money. Someone got a great car for a good price!

[Steve1968LS2]

I would be feeling sick! It sold for $230 with commish he is down to $211 and then a couple thousand for transportation and registering then spending a week in Scottsdale. I am sure there is $350 or so in this car, a $140 or 50 thousand dollar lost to me would really ruin your night. I know Doug has tried to sell it outside of Barrett, so I guess this is the only place he was able to get that kind of money. Someone got a great car for a good price!

See.. I don't get why people think these cars are investments.. they SHOULD lose money. It's a hobby, you build it drive it, beat it and then sell it for less than you have in it. Makes sense to me.

Keep in mind that Reactor was built years ago and has already sucked up the spotlight. If it was fresh and unshown it might have brought in more $$$$.

This is a hobby, not a 401k deal. lol

[Vegas69]

Exactly, drive them like you stole them because the fact is you will lose money 9 out of 10 times.

[GregWeld]

Steve -- That's it right on the head - it's a HOBBY -- you build a car - and maybe you get half what you put in -- not TWICE.... Welcome to coming back to NORMAL. Cars aren't DOWN - they're just being sold for what they're really worth.

BTW -- the LAKESIDE car was a car called TIMELESS and it's a 35 FORD (not a 37) ... and an absolutely wonderful one at that!

[tgvettes]

To me this is a hobby and I have lost my fair share of money on cars thru the years. Would I have done it any other way probably not.
I love cars always have always will. If someone can afford to put $350K into building a car then they can probably also afford loosing $150-200K when they sell it.
If someone thinks that just because they get their car on the auction rooster at BJ that they should make money I think they need to think again.

Tonny

[DFRESH]

See.. I don't get why people think these cars are investments.. they SHOULD lose money. It's a hobby, you build it drive it, beat it and then sell it for less than you have in it. Makes sense to me.

Keep in mind that Reactor was built years ago and has already sucked up the spotlight. If it was fresh and unshown it might have brought in more $$$$.

This is a hobby, not a 401k deal. lol

Well said!!----maybe folks justify the money dumped into these things on the basis of "its an investment".

Doug

[DFRESH]

Steve -- That's it right on the head - it's a HOBBY -- you build a car - and maybe you get half what you put in -- not TWICE.... Welcome to coming back to NORMAL. Cars aren't DOWN - they're just being sold for what they're really worth.

BTW -- the LAKESIDE car was a car called TIMELESS and it's a 35 FORD (not a 37) ... and an absolutely wonderful one at that!

Dude--where have you been? We almost sent out a search party for you---no posts in like 2 days---got scared---:lol:

Doug

[GregWeld]

Nope -- the people that spend REAL money on these cars are the ones that understand that it's a hobby. It's everyone ELSE that thinks they're somehow an investment.

[GregWeld]

Dude--where have you been? We almost sent out a search party for you---no posts in like 2 days---got scared---:lol:

Doug

Doug --

I'm down here running up your "investment"!!

LOL

I'm at Barrett Jackson -- but am now home (well back at my home here) not "home"... watching the auction on TV. Waiting to see what my old heep goes for and then I'm "car'd out" for the weekend. :wow:

[70rs]

Doug --

I'm down here running up your "investment"!!

LOL

I'm at Barrett Jackson -- but am now home (well back at my home here) not "home"... watching the auction on TV. Waiting to see what my old heep goes for and then I'm "car'd out" for the weekend. :wow:

What lot number is your old car Greg? This is the 'vette right?

Glad you are having a good time, get in touch when you're back in town.:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Lot 1351 -- 67 400hp Rally Red Vette -- One of 117 like it -- and possibly one of 20 with it's option combo... all owner history - build sheet - every title etc. Multi time NCRS Top Flight car.. and RESTORED to perfection.:woot:

Might not make TV -- they seem to be really SLOW on the numbers... and I think TV is only going till 10??

[ProdigyCustoms]

The 35 Ford (Timeless) went really cheap. That is a baddass car for only $130K.

Greg said it right, normal cars are bringing proper money.

What surprises me the most ids the Corvette adjustment seems brutal, worse then the Mopar adjustment last year. Big Block Mid Year Vettes were in the $60K to $80K range, WAY down!

[70rs]

The 35 Ford (Timeless) went really cheap. That is a baddass car for only $130K.

Greg said it right, normal cars are bringing proper money.

What surprises me the most ids the Corvette adjustment seems brutal, worse then the Mopar adjustment last year. Big Block Mid Year Vettes were in the $60K to $80K range, WAY down!

I mentioned that to Greg but he said those were only the "girly" cars.:rofl:

[GregWeld]

Everybody is keeping their powder dry to buy my old one...
:rofl:

[GregWeld]

Frank =

THERE ARE 120 CORVETTES here for sale --- some killer --- some (most) just "okay" cars - and several "hot rodded versions".... WAY too many Corvettes for one auction...

[70rs]

Frank =

THERE ARE 120 CORVETTES here for sale --- some killer --- some (most) just "okay" cars - and several "hot rodded versions".... WAY too many Corvettes for one auction...

The car I mentioned to Greg was just prior to the Red Witch going and while it was a nice mid year, big block vert, it was not as nice as the ones getting better money.

[DFRESH]

Was if fun Greg? I bet it's pretty neat in person at those auctions---maybe only your first time it's that way---talk soon GW

Doug

[Camaroguy]

See.. I don't get why people think these cars are investments.. they SHOULD lose money. It's a hobby, you build it drive it, beat it and then sell it for less than you have in it. Makes sense to me.

Keep in mind that Reactor was built years ago and has already sucked up the spotlight. If it was fresh and unshown it might have brought in more $$$$.

This is a hobby, not a 401k deal. lol

I never said anything about cars and investing and making money on them. I think it is a great hobby and you should drive the hell out of them, but not everyone is that way.

The guys who spend the money like Doug does has alot more to burn than most. I think 230 is fair price and thank god for guys like Doug who build cars like these, it raises the bar and price of alot of cars we drive and build!

[xplantdad]

Doug --

I'm down here running up your "investment"!!

LOL

I'm at Barrett Jackson -- but am now home (well back at my home here) not "home"... watching the auction on TV. Waiting to see what my old heep goes for and then I'm "car'd out" for the weekend. :wow:


You hit the nail on the head Greg with your assessment of build cost vs reality...

It was great to "hang" with you yesterday:thumbsup:

[RECOVERY ROOM]

I worked on both cars for Doug, the 35 coupe is just pure badass,Lakeside rods built the car we did the inside,We also did the Mustang,Sometimes people have to remember that this is what happens with these cars,In order to build new ones, you have to sell the ones in the way for the next one.I thought he did well on the money for todays market.Somebody got some nice rides

[customcam]

Got 253k includes 10%

[gracin7]

Somebody refresh my memory, how much did Johnsons' million dollar 'Cuda go for a couple of years ago.I believe that wasn't a sponge bath but a drowning!!! You gotta know what your in for!!

[1969x11]

I never said anything about cars and investing and making money on them. I think it is a great hobby and you should drive the hell out of them, but not everyone is that way.

The guys who spend the money like Doug does has alot more to burn than most. I think 230 is fair price and thank god for guys like Doug who build cars like these, it raises the bar and price of alot of cars we drive and build!

My thoughts exactly. But I feel like if a guy were to home build a badass car such as a Mustang or a Camaro and say only have 35 to 45 thousand in it he should be able to carry it to BJ and make some coin. High dollar shop built cars like this one, I can see not getting back 100% of the money invested and I know the owner didnt have the car built to make money on it.

[MarkM66]

Somebody refresh my memory, how much did Johnsons' million dollar 'Cuda go for a couple of years ago.I believe that wasn't a sponge bath but a drowning!!! You gotta know what your in for!!

And he knew he wasn't going to get his money back.

It's still one of the, if not the highest selling custom cars to be sold at BJ.

[EBMC]

If i remember right, Reactor was at Russo Steele 2 years ago and had a high bid of 300K. I didn"t meet reserve of 350k. Alot has changed in the last couple of years and I think he got some good coin for a car that has already been exposed everywhere. Personally I think Copperback was the better purchase for the money, but I'm partial to the color!

[coolwelder62]

The only people making money on hot rods this weekend are the pimps at barrett-jackson. oh ya speed is too. three cars then they go to a com.

[70rs]

The only people making money on hot rods this weekend are the pimps at barrett-jackson. oh ya speed is too. three cars then they go to a com.

Exactly! BJ is in the prime position, it never matters what the car cost to build or what it sells for, they make the cash either way. And Speed for whoring themselves out to all of the advertisers of course. These commercials are killing the whole thing for me.

DVR= Record, come back later and shave 4 hours off by skipping the ads.

[Bow Tie 67]

My thoughts exactly. But I feel like if a guy were to home build a badass car such as a Mustang or a Camaro and say only have 35 to 45 thousand in it he should be able to carry it to BJ and make some coin. High dollar shop built cars like this one, I can see not getting back 100% of the money invested and I know the owner didnt have the car built to make money on it.


Making a profit on a " badass " car is easier said than done. I have always justified spending money, and I can be cheap, tying it up. If I can come close to breaking even when it sells, then I'm happy.

[GregWeld]

Scott --- Well said. I'm thinking that this might be the last year I watch any of it on TV... it's become boring. Way too many commercials.... and frankly - a LOT of erroneous information.

There was no - none - zip - "buzz" this year at BJ... I'm not sure if the weather played a part in that or not. And here's another observation. 2 years ago - I wanted to buy some pieces of the stuff that a couple outfits do - restored old gas pumps - and misc shop pieces. They're top notch - and they get top notch prices. Most of them where sold on the FIRST DAY of BJ... so I was out of luck on a couple things I would have bought.

THIS YEAR --- I'm looking at the stuff SATURDAY afternoon - and very little was tagged SOLD.... most of it's going to go home with the vendor.

HUGE DIFFERENCE.... just HUGE. Ditto most of the "art". In years past - you had to be pretty fast and not drool too long or the piece you wanted was gone... this year - you could still buy all of it - anything you wanted - and barter on the price too!

[MarkM66]

Exactly! BJ is in the prime position, it never matters what the car cost to build or what it sells for, they make the cash either way. And Speed for whoring themselves out to all of the advertisers of course. These commercials are killing the whole thing for me.

DVR= Record, come back later and shave 4 hours off by skipping the ads.

Aparently some haven't heard of DVR. ;)

I actually watch about 10 hours in 15 minutes. :lol:

[pokey64]

Aparently some haven't heard of DVR. ;)

I actually watch about 10 hours in 15 minutes. :lol:


That's how we watch it. Just hold fast forward. But you have to be careful. It's easy to completely miss the 3 seconds of coverage they give some cars.

[awr68]

I actually watch about 10 hours in 15 minutes. :lol:

I did that Friday after work.....jammed right through Thursday's show! I wasn't home Thursday....so I pretty much FF right to the Red Witch and then hit delete! :lol:

[70rs]

That's how we watch it. Just hold fast forward. But you have to be careful. It's easy to completely miss the 3 seconds of coverage they give some cars.

:rofl: ain't that the truth!

[pokey64]

BTW -- the LAKESIDE car was a car called TIMELESS and it's a 35 FORD (not a 37) ... and an absolutely wonderful one at that!

Thanks for the correction Greg. Yes it's a 35 and is wonderful! It must of been the sun or more likely the coronas down here in Mexico getting to me... :D

[Steve1968LS2]

Exactly! BJ is in the prime position, it never matters what the car cost to build or what it sells for, they make the cash either way. And Speed for whoring themselves out to all of the advertisers of course. These commercials are killing the whole thing for me.

DVR= Record, come back later and shave 4 hours off by skipping the ads.

Hell yea.. we DVR it and then watch.. I blew through 4 hours of coverage in about an hour.

I would litterally be like two cars and then commercials. One time I swear it was ONE CAR before the next commercial break.

DVR is the ONLY way to watch this.

[Camaroguy]

If i remember right, Reactor was at Russo Steele 2 years ago and had a high bid of 300K. I didn"t meet reserve of 350k. Alot has changed in the last couple of years and I think he got some good coin for a car that has already been exposed everywhere. Personally I think Copperback was the better purchase for the money, but I'm partial to the color!

I was there also selling a car and I believe all of Dougs money on the car was the auction raising the bid. The money was not real! Another beautiful thing about those auctions!

[Steve1968LS2]

There was no - none - zip - "buzz" this year at BJ... I'm not sure if the weather played a part in that or not. And here's another observation. 2 years ago - I wanted to buy some pieces of the stuff that a couple outfits do - restored old gas pumps - and misc shop pieces. They're top notch - and they get top notch prices. Most of them where sold on the FIRST DAY of BJ... so I was out of luck on a couple things I would have bought.



Hey, I know of a super cool restored GULF gas pump for sale.. can snap a picture of it if you like.

[xplantdad]

Having attended BJ and RS for the past 4 years start to finish...I can tell you that attendance was definitely down. We went to Pavillions on Saturday about noon...then headed over to BJ at about 2pm.

Last year at 2pm...there wasn't a parking place to be had anywhere near BJ (even if you had a parking pass like I did)...

This year, when I left at 5:30pm on Saturday night, there were still public parking spaces available right across from the main tent...and there were still seats available in the bidders area (not so last year...or the years prior).

Was it the weather...the economy...or a bit of both?

I hear that Greg got a good deal on some lighting:D

[tgvettes]

Bruce you said A now you have to say B what did Greg do?

Tonny

[MarkM66]

I was there also selling a car and I believe all of Dougs money on the car was the auction raising the bid. The money was not real! Another beautiful thing about those auctions!

I'm sure. The auction co. will always get it close to the reserve.

On a reserve auction, if the reserve isn't met, the last bid means nothing.

[GregWeld]

Aparently some haven't heard of DVR. ;)

I actually watch about 10 hours in 15 minutes. :lol:

Well some of us skip the commercials by watching it IN PERSON....

[MarkM66]

Well some of us skip the commercials by watching it IN PERSON....

Yeah, you're so special... :rolleyes:

[pokey64]

Well some of us skip the commercials by watching it IN PERSON....

Yeah but your stuck sitting next to guys in Hawaiian shirts and get the screamer directly in your ear! So there. :P

[xplantdad]

Bruce you said A now you have to say B what did Greg do?

Tonny

Ya gotta talk to Greg:_paranoid

[xplantdad]

Yeah, you're so special... :rolleyes:


LOL...it is much better in person. If you haven't been there...you've definitely missed out. Everyone should attend at least once.

Though, there are tons of armchair quarterbacks that have never been to these auctions but still have nothing good to say about the auctions. They base their opinions on.....what?:question:

Either way...sitting there in person takes it to a whole different level...but it's really LOUD!:yes:

[phillym5]

I had to step out for dinner and what not... i just ended up Twittering the event. :)

I tried to stick around the house and watch... but the commercials were killing me. I was also getting frustrated because my fantasy bids were always 10-25k too high!!:lol:

[ProdigyCustoms]

Yeah, Barrett is the only game in town. 95% of what you see at the NO RESERVE auctions is bogus or shill bidding. That is why you often see cars bid to a bid and sell later for much less. I have run cars though reserve auctions and there are bids, bids, bids, and I am on stage watching, and I'll be damned if I see them.


We never shill bid our stuff, don't have to. All you need to do is tell the auctioneer not to let it die on the stage, and they will run it close to what you want and let it eat.

If you want to sell the car, you take it to Barrett. It may not bring what you hope it will bring, but you will sell it.

[GregWeld]

LOL...it is much better in person. If you haven't been there...you've definitely missed out. Everyone should attend at least once.

Though, there are tons of armchair quarterbacks that have never been to these auctions but still have nothing good to say about the auctions. They base their opinions on.....what?:question:

Either way...sitting there in person takes it to a whole different level...but it's really LOUD!:yes:

Well said Bruce -- Everyone should have this on their "bucket list" -- it is a hoot and there really is only "one" like it. It's bigger than big... and besides you get to do my favorite car thing - MEET UP WITH YOUR BUDDIES! :cheers:

While I think the prices were "low to middlin" - I agree with Frank when he says if you want to sell your car - this is the place to be. There are real buyers - and the cars get sold. Frankly -- (not Frank) -- everybody talks about what something or other is "worth" -- and an auction like this tells you EXACTLY what it's worth... whatever two other guys are willing to pay for it. It's not worth a nickel more. There are lots and lots of "venues" to sell cars -- and the really high dollar builds are well known and well documented - and generally the "world" knows when they're for sale and what the seller is asking.... and the only way they finally make it to BJ or RM etc is because nobody was willing to step up and buy them for what the seller was asking. That doesn't mean that someone might pay MORE than that at an auction - but if they do you're just LUCKY!

On the plane home - I pulled out Hot Rod magazine - noticed that a previous HUGE buyer at BJ et al - was forced to sell most all of his 210 car collection - and the one they showed came to mind - a Chevelle - X race car - 61 miles on it - all 1/4 at a time - he had bought at BJ in 2006 -- 1.2 MILLION -- sold at a Peterson auction for 240 thousand.... you all know - that the 240 thousand was way more than any of us would have paid for it... so that was what it was really worth. El Stupido that paid 1.2 million for it... Oh well....

Made me think of the GM BUS - that sold for 4 million - Let's take a guess what that was/is really "worth" today. :rofl:

BTW -- I fully understand that most can not go to these events - vacation time - cost - whatever... and this is only the second time I've ever gone.. ditto SEMA... so I'm just poking people when I say "I was there in person".... because I normally am hunkered around the tube at home drooling and wishin'. BUT DO put it on your to do list -- you really would like it. Oh - and bring a d#*n rain coat and boots!!!

[parsonsj]

If you want to sell the car, you take it to Barrett. It may not bring what you hope it will bring, but you will sell it.Exactly right. I wasted time for 2 years trying to sell my car. Frank and I talked each other into going to B-J Vegas in late August. My car was sold October 9th. You can screw around with all the other venues, or you can take it to Barrett and sell it. :cheers:

jp

[parsonsj]

I agree with Frank when he says if you want to sell your car - this is the place to be. There are real buyers - and the cars get sold. Frankly -- (not Frank) -- everybody talks about what something or other is "worth" -- and an auction like this tells you EXACTLY what it's worth... whatever two other guys are willing to pay for it. It's not worth a nickel more. There are lots and lots of "venues" to sell cars -- and the really high dollar builds are well known and well documented - and generally the "world" knows when they're for sale and what the seller is asking.... and the only way they finally make it to BJ or RM etc is because nobody was willing to step up and buy them for what the seller was asking. That doesn't mean that someone might pay MORE than that at an auction - but if they do you're just LUCKY!Well put. That's exactly what I think too.

jp

[Vegas69]

Well put. That's exactly what I think too.

jp

Of course you do....... :D