Launching new instrument package-looking for input

[marks914]

These are on-sale now, go to the last page and order up,
We expect to deliver all pre-orders 02/01/2011
Here are some updated images, as promised:

The 68 Series:
http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/19071/2340786240057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2340786240057582025dfPEUX)

http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/28510/2722633750057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2722633750057582025BTYDfD)

1969 Series
http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/46111/2810942750057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2810942750057582025VZhcuc)

http://inlinethumb12.webshots.com/3211/2932629250057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2932629250057582025NOYDSU)

More hotrod/street rod, the Woodward Series
http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/3370/2165914380057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2165914380057582025EkxSAU)

http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/46301/2388071770057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2388071770057582025KFmyro)


Eventually we will stock these in the 1940, 1967 Performance and Redline Series of gauges, and of course, we can alwas build a custom set

Mark


Mark

We just got the green light to kick off this program that has been on the back burner for a couple of months.
We want your input into the features you want in this particular package. Ideally, if we had a base package that would be great on its own, plus have the flexability to anticipate custom needs, we can have a great product at a great price. This is kind of how we approach all of our projects-actually find out what the customer wants.
The intent for the volume product is a set of 5" 3-in-1 gauges (see below)
My personal feeling is that the look is much more balanced than some of what is out on the market today. These will be able to be mounted in the stock dash in 67-69 Camaros, or any other vehicle that you have the room in. The mounting hole is 4-3/8 and the OD is 4-3/4.
It will have a fully programmable speedometer, tach, pressure, temp and 0-90 ohm fuel gauge.
What else do you need? Warning lamps, turn signals? shift lamps?
What RPM range are you looking for? Realistically, 8K is probably good for most, but if you guys want 10K let me know.
Speedo range? 140, 200?
We can do through the dial or perimiter lighting-which do you prefer?
Style-this is what we are really good at, what style are you looking for? OEM-era look? Super modern? retro?
What colors are you looking for?
One product will never be for everyone, but if we can do domething that has the basis everyone wants, we can easily change graphics, pointers, etc as needed.
Below is the basic setup we were going to start with, a 69-ish looking graphic, looks period, mint green graphics on a black background. But, its not what I think, its what you think that is important, so let us know what you want!
Thanks
Mark
http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/45119/2265780120057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2265780120057582025GEvudm)

[tellyv]

I think most people here would like something more race inspired than hot rod, or retro looking. Most cars on this website have auto meter sport comp type gauges I'd go for more of that look.

[marks914]

I think most people here would like something more race inspired than hot rod, or retro looking. Most cars on this website have auto meter sport comp type gauges I'd go for more of that look.

Thanks,
Thats kind of the point, there seems to be only a couple of players in the market and why settle for what everyone else has? I see plenty of cars that are simply awesome, until you get to the dash. With a limited amount of choices, everyone defaults to what everyone else has. the dash is the final frontier in completing a car, we are trying to step it up and bring some real style to the market.

Mark

[BonzoHansen]

Wow, I love them. I like the classic look. That is why the CIs are currently on my consideration list, along with having my OE ones rebuilt to modern standards.

Carte blanche?

Hell yeah turn signals. My #1 mark against the CIs.

Idiot lights? Low fuel (1/8th tank?) would be cool. Maybe just lights for volt/oil/temp to use senders? I'd guess programmable would be asking too much (money). Programmable shift light and MPH light (like a speedminder) would be nice to have. They can be small LEDs.

That 140 looks ok. I'd fear 200 would be too condensed. I'd have to see.

http://www.ozfbody.com/images/Spdwar.jpg

[marks914]

I hear you Scott, pricing will be VERY competitive, complete kit for under $500.00. We don't have a ton of overhead, so our prices are prety good, and we make all of our gauges at our shop here in Detroit.
We used to rebuild and retrofit instruments, but when it cost a customer $1500-$3K to do a full blown custom retrofit, it didn't make alot of sense. That is why we started building instruments that have the feel of an era. Get the period look, without the hit in the wallet.

Mark

[radrambler]

Ok

If i had a 69 camaro again these would be it !!
Love the less is more packaging..NOT 6 INDIVIDUAL GAUGES BUT TWO.
EYES on the dash and its all right there.
alot of FUEL INJECTION engine in these cars now..check engine light built in would be great.
If you want to stir things up get this set up rendered with different face types..kinda like a silver face with black numbers to compete with the comp autometerish deal .
i think until some of these guys see the face options rendered you wont know what sets them off..be alot of guessing.
Good luck and your product looks great !!!

Tom

[marks914]

Thanks Tom
We will probably have a few different styles. Trying to nail down content and positioning of components right now. Maybe we need to figue out how many warning lamps in each gauge. Maybe 4, 2 turn signals, hi beam and 2 warning lamps?
Mark

[Rick Dorion]

I like the idea of a classic look for my 68 with modern internals. Since I'd be looking at replacing my current setup, I'd need high beam and directional indicators. Warning light would suffice for volts. A built in programmable shift light would be great. I'd like to minimize extra gauge mounting. I like the picture you show of the classic look.

[Steve1968LS2]

I like the "all in two" approach to the 67/68 dashes.. nice and simple.

Classic Instruments makes on like this with the speedo/tach on one side and a "four pack" of gauges on the other side.

On their version the speed is large and the tack is a small sweeper at the bottom. I think a better idea would be to the the tack LARGE and the speedo just a small sweeper at the bottom. Or even have the speedo just be a small digital readout at the bottom. Tack is important, while MPH is just something you need to know to make sure you don't get a ticket.

Did that make sense?

As for warning lights my dream list would be: turn sigs, high beam, check engine and a very bright oil pressure warning light.

Nice stuff!

[marks914]

I think that the trick here is getting the right number/colors onto the PC board and then having icons that are generic, but meaningful at the same time. Turn signals will dedicate a gauge to a side, but that's life. If you don't need a certain function (like shift lamp) just don't hook it up, you won't see it until its on anyway. We use a dead front which conceals the lamps when off. I (probably myself) will come up with something to share.
Appreciate the input
Mark
Here is a custom set we did a while ago, came out pretty nice, kept the original theme of the car, with just turn signals and high beam.
http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/43119/2999406320057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2999406320057582025ojYmkR)

[70rs]

I like the direction you are going with these Mark. In regards to the set shown at the top of the thread, maybe a higher number on the speedo (160-180-200?) and turn indicator lamps, two warning lamps that can be used for the builders/owners discretion.

[BonzoHansen]

With the magic of MS Paint, this was a simple thought.

I'm personally good with simple colors, although little icons are fine. So a green light is as good as an arrow for turn signals. Each small gauge gets a red light, low gas and the others could be simple lights on senders. On the tach a yellow SES, blue light for high beams and red shift where the ODO is on the speedo is good enough for me. Is this doable? I have no idea, you're the electronics genius!

[marks914]

With the magic of MS Paint, this was a simple thought.

I'm personally good with simple colors, although little icons are fine. So a green light is as good as an arrow for turn signals. Each small gauge gets a red light, low gas and the others could be simple lights on senders. On the tach a yellow SES, blue light for high beams and red shift where the ODO is on the speedo is good enough for me. Is this doable? I have no idea, you're the electronics genius!

I was thinking of just doing simple lights, but was feeling that was a bit unrefined. We can make the lamps any shape, icon, words, we might as well try ta take advantage of it.
Thanks
Mark

[Mkelcy]

An 8,000 rpm tach is plenty.

Can the smaller gauges be turned around so the markings are along the edge of the gauge? It seems you might be made to make them bigger that way. As for lights, I'd say turn signals, high beam, maybe parking brake warning, maybe shift light as an option.

While I like the "all in two" concept, I'm not a fan of either set of gauges - the first seem too retro, the second set just doesn't do it for me, though I can't say why.

[BonzoHansen]

I was thinking of just doing simple lights, but was feeling that was a bit unrefined. We can make the lamps any shape, icon, words, we might as well try ta take advantage of it.
Thanks
Mark

Agreed, it would be very nice.

[asifnyc]

just wanted to echo some of the comments that resonated with me and throw in a couple of my own.

+1 for TACH with a small digital MPH. lots of motor cycles do this and I've always thought this was a good idea for custom car dashes. 1 big tach in the middle with speedo incorporated and then add whatever other gauges you need on either side. I'm sure you don't want to make that radical of a change for this project but something to think about.

- I agree you don't need a volt meter, just an idiot light. I get that it balances things out but maybe use the space for all the other suggestions that have come up.

- I also agree that 8k for the tach is plenty. I do not like the idea of buying a 10k tach when I know my car should never be above 6500 - 7000...

- I think the CEL (check engine light) is a great call for all the guys running LS engines

- I want a 160 MPH speedo! :D just because... I agree 200 is ridiculous (for almost everyone) but 160 feels just aspirational enough :cool:

-design wise I'm in the more modern camp

[ItDoRun]

I love the first set of gauges. I like the classic look, myself. My personal options would be the 140 mph speedometer, 8K tach, turn signals (arrows), high beam indicator, check engine, and low fuel. If you can capture those features in the first set of gauges you posted, you'll be receiving my credit card number when I get to the interior portion of my build. Great loking product! :thumbsup:

[55Sedan]

I really like the classic style, too. I'm an old early mustang builder and the big round gauges look good. The one thing I have never liked about the gen1 Camaros is the gauges. These are GREAT!

Now that I own a '55 Chevy I have been trying to figure out what to do about the instruments. I just do NOT like the Autometer 5-gauge cluster some people are using. The Classic Instrument cluster is one of my preferred choices, but I have really given a lot of thought to trying to set up a series of gauges that would look good.

Looking forward to see what else you come up with.

[marks914]

Thanks again everyone, we now have a few things to consider in this stage of development.
From what I can tell, we need to have at least 2 styles, retro and modern, plus we can always do a custom set for a customer.
I am going to see if we can get 4 warning lamps per gauge, then there is plenty of flexibility in what needs to be monitored.
I will work on some layouts for the components and get it over to the engineers tomorrow.
The think I like best about this set is the balanced look, the competition to this package looks really heavy and hard to read on the speedo/tach and the quad gauge looks lost, visually I think the 3-1s will be easier to read .
Anything else, please feel free to let me know.

Thanks again, this really helps
Mark

[68400BIRD]

Are the lights going to be LED's?? Will you be able to change the color of the lights? I wouldn't mind the green colored lights for a retro look but would also be fine with some bright LED's. Keep the updates coming. I'm looking forward to something that will go in the stock position and is friendly on the wallet.

[marks914]

Are the lights going to be LED's?? Will you be able to change the color of the lights? I wouldn't mind the green colored lights for a retro look but would also be fine with some bright LED's. Keep the updates coming. I'm looking forward to something that will go in the stock position and is friendly on the wallet.

It looks like right now all of the lighting will be LED, the warning lamps, backlighting, etc.
We will use white LEDs on the PCB and change backlighting and warning lamp colors by screening the translucent color on the back of the dials. So you can get any color you want, custom work won't be free, but at least with a good starting point it will make it much less expensive than starting from scratch.
I should know a little more in a day or so, we are planning on launmching these in March.
Mark

[68LS1]

I love the first set of gauges. I like the classic look, myself. My personal options would be the 140 mph speedometer, 8K tach, turn signals (arrows), high beam indicator, check engine, and low fuel. If you can capture those features in the first set of gauges you posted, you'll be receiving my credit card number when I get to the interior portion of my build. Great loking product! :thumbsup:

Exactly same thoughts as ItDoRun.
These are just what I was looking for, where were these 6 months ago? Pic of current gauges attached. Cars been on the road 3 weeks I can aready see a change in it's future. :rolleyes:
I am running a console with gauge package in my 68 Camaro with LS1 so for my purpose would just need speedo & tacho.

[marks914]

Roger,
No problem, those look like autometer or SW gauges, we can re-face those pretty easily. Do you have a pic of how you mounted them?
What do your console gauge look like? it would be nice to have them all match.
I like to do all of the gauges in one file, on top of each other so that all of the elements are the same size and line up properly. Yours look pretty good, just need some tweaks to really make them look right.
Mark

[Rick Dorion]

A minor point but the 68 stock housing already has the high beam indicator. I like the possibilities here!

[jski67]

Hi Mark,

I really like your gauges!

Question...are you going to have any sizes to replace a 2 5/8" autometer? I only see 2 1/16"...

If not, how hard is it to replace a black autometer bezel with a chrome one?

Thanks,
Jason

PS. I'm originally from NW Ohio and used to work in Toledo...I hope the snow isn't too bad!

[68LS1]

Roger,
No problem, those look like autometer or SW gauges, we can re-face those pretty easily. Do you have a pic of how you mounted them?
What do your console gauge look like? it would be nice to have them all match.
I like to do all of the gauges in one file, on top of each other so that all of the elements are the same size and line up properly. Yours look pretty good, just need some tweaks to really make them look right.
Mark

Hi Mark, thanks for your response. They are Autometer Designer Black model gauges that I had refaced here in Australia. As I couldn't get an OE look, which is my preference, I decided to go white with red backlit. My HSV has this set up and it is one of the things I really like. I don't have a pic of mounting, but they are secured with metal frame. I have attached a pic of console gauges.

What I really don't like about these gauges is the lack of turn signal (these are the leds at top of each binnacle, very hard to see in daylight). The high beam indicator is top LED between binnacles and Check Engine Light is bottom red one between binnacles.
I would much prefer an OE look with inbuilt turn signals, low fuel light would be nice. Happy with 8k tach, but 140mph would be better than current 120mph.
cheers Roger

[marks914]

Jason,
We have been toying around with the 2-5/8" size idea for a while, the issue is is would cost about $8K to tool up the can, bezel, lenses, and light mask. So that means to recoup the cost we would have to sell about 850 sets in one year, which is quite a few for us. We have refaced Autometers in the past for 2-5/8. As for replacing the bezel, no problem, you can do it yourself, the only problem is where to get the bezels.

Roger,
Sounds like yu need a new speedo to get to 140. Backlighting, no problem. So I assume the dials are backlit and the pointers are not? It looks like a designer could help out those console gauges too, get a better, more cohesive look to your setup.
Mark

[68400BIRD]

BUMP!!! Making sure there is progress.

[marks914]

Thanks for the bump
I should have some updates tomorrow (saturday) with some images of the direction we are going. Here is a sneak peek:
Mark
http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/46159/2518953880057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2518953880057582025IYbvbb)

[70rs]

I really like those Mark. ^^^^^ I could really clean up my second gen camaro dash with those.:thumbsup:

What diameter are you making these?

[marks914]

I really like those Mark. ^^^^^ I could really clean up my second gen camaro dash with those.:thumbsup:

What diameter are you making these?

They are 4-3/8 mounting hole, 4-3/4 OD, they fit right in the stock dash

More to come tomorrow

Mark

[cdushane]

I like what your doing here and am anxious to see more. I'm trying to decide what guages to run myself and don't really wanta go the "pro comp" direction again. Keep us posted on these!

[BonzoHansen]

Thanks for the bump
I should have some updates tomorrow (saturday) with some images of the direction we are going. Here is a sneak peek:
Mark
http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/46159/2518953880057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2518953880057582025IYbvbb)

Awesome looking.

(water temp is low, lol)

[DEIGuy38]

I have to get my hands on a set of these for my 68 camaro. I have been looking for a set like this for a long time. I need the 0-90 ohms sending unit, 10k square wave speedo, just turn signals and high beams. Other vendors have different sending units and conversion kits to get the speedo to work correctly. These are exactly what I want right out of the box.

[marks914]

I have to get my hands on a set of these for my 68 camaro. I have been looking for a set like this for a long time. I need the 0-90 ohms sending unit, 10k square wave speedo, just turn signals and high beams. Other vendors have different sending units and conversion kits to get the speedo to work correctly. These are exactly what I want right out of the box.

Guy,
yes we are planning on a 0-90 ohm sender for GM vehicles. As for the 10K sq wave sender, not sure why anyone would need an adapter to make an electronic speedo work. That is a standard hall effect pulse and should work on any electronic speedometer. As for 10K I assume you mean 10K per mile. Ours will take up to 150,000 pulses per mile, which is close to what the VSS puts out from the driveshaft on most late model GM stuff.

Mark

[marks914]

Ok,
Here are some updates.
We will do custom graphics, pointers, etc on these but we will launch with 3 styles. One style will match our Woodward Series (a 30s style deco set) and the two shown below. We will also be manufacturing these as private label for one other company with different graphics more for the street rod crowd.

The first style is based off of some input from earlier in the thread. We were running some tests with some metal ink and found that we can achieve an aluminum look with the printing process. That led us back to our original concept from about a year ago, more of a 67-68 look, but modernized a bit. More of an OEM look. We wanted the set to look right in an original car, or something updated. I think the set, even in its rough form can pass pretty well for modern or period.

Enough words, here are the pics:
http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/46074/2467172520057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2467172520057582025pIMOpw)
Below is the rough of the lit appearance. Warning lamps are place holders, but I think we have the main needs covered. Not sure if we should go red/white all red, red/blue on the lighting, we wil have to do some mock-ups. They will be backlit, through the dial lighting.
http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/46410/2836786440057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2836786440057582025FwmLwA)
The 2nd style, I think will be available in white or black face. Normal perimiter lighting and the warning lamps may be optional, it all depends on complexity. More of a "value" set that has good looks and function, more for the race look crowd.
http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/45346/2714436280057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2714436280057582025VVfTqH)

When will these be available? We should have functional prototypes in about a month. From there we have about a 6 week test cycle that we have to go through and our European CE certification to do. We have to to temperature, vibration, humidity and shock testing as well as functional tests. I hope to have them available by mid May.
We will be showing some mock-ups at the Hot Rod and restoration show next month, hopefully get some of our dealers on board. We are also working on a 6 gauge set with a similar theme, for some who have different vahicles but do not want this layout.

Mark

[Vegas69]

I really like the new designs. Personally, I'd still want seperate matching gauges for all the vitals. Larger and easier to read. Cramming all those readings into a tiny package isn't ideal but I realized there is a market for it. I'd build them both ways.:thumbsup:

[68400BIRD]

Looks great, I'll keep watching and bumping this thread. LOL This will be on my list for purchasing this spring.

[radrambler]

Mark

LOVE YOUR GAUGES ..Designs look great..I dont have a camaro but the styles on those all in 2 gauge sets are SHARP .
:thumbsup:

Tom

[jmac]

Mark,
Nice guages and design! As far as the color, do you have the ability to include green as an option? I'm thinking of the green that matches the factory guages of my 67 Camaro.

[Warpath Pontiac]

Woah...those gauges look sick!

Just curious, any thoughts of making a speedo/odo. in one and the vitals in the other pod? It would be a pretty good looking gauge package in a firebird with a hood tach (I would totally be in for a set).

[marks914]

Guys,
as for colors, I woudl say about 70% of our work is custom, so we can always do a custom dial.
Right now the hash marks are the 67-69 mint green, we have the proper color code for it.

Matt: We can do a speedo and 4-1 right now, we have all the parts.

This is the original 6 gauge concept that will match the 3-1s. then you can mix and match parts, big speedo, and the rest small, or whatever. Working on it all right now.

Mark

http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/44808/2796172200057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2796172200057582025YCLmsv)

[BBC69Camaro]

http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/44808/2796172200057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2796172200057582025YCLmsv)

That is a great style, kind of similar the Green-line series from Stewart Warner, problem was they only had a few gauges in that style.

[marks914]

Ran some test dials for the brushed look. Came out really good, looks better in person. Best of all, we can light through-the dial and still get the metal or even chrome look. We also ran some chrome ink, and it came out great too. Ill take some pics of that to.
Heres a pic:
http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/11616/2232037030057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2232037030057582025RJHIgm)

Played around with another way to customize this week. we did some lens etching. A cool way to add something to a gauge without being obnoxious. Looks pretty classy
Mark
http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/45906/2367968810057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2367968810057582025dVClSs)

[6spdcamaro]

Do you have any pictures of the Faria series white gauges in a car? Good price :thumbsup:

[marks914]

Do you have any pictures of the Faria series white gauges in a car? Good price :thumbsup:

Not yet, We just received the samples and are going to debut them at the Hot Rod and Restoration show this week. Yes a great price, and I would put them up against any brand for quality, function, warranty. We get to use their massive military, OEM and marine volume to get some serious cost reduction on these sets.

Mark

[Bowtieracing]

Mark those metal look faces looks really good. Cant wait to me hands on my gauges:cool:

[55Sedan]

Mark

Your gauges are incredible! Can you also do custom work like this?

Larry

[marks914]

Mark

Your gauges are incredible! Can you also do custom work like this?

Larry

Larry,
I would say that 70% of what we do is custom. That panel would be a one-off built from scratch retrofit, so it would not be cheap.
Mark

[55Sedan]

Larry,
I would say that 70% of what we do is custom. That panel would be a one-off built from scratch retrofit, so it would not be cheap.
Mark

I had a feeling... When I found that pic the post said it is a very expensive panel. I'm kinda torn between that fairly stock looking panel and the full-on multi-gauge panel look. Nothing but options, until I buy one! The Classic Instruments panel is still very close to the top of my list.

Thanks for the response and keep coming up with new ideas!

Larry

[billetman]

Mark, Your new gauges look great. I like the spun metal faces. They have a race car look without looking overdone. As far as indicator lights are concerned, I like turn signals,high beam,and possibly a check engine light and oil pressure light. Anyway good luck on your new product. Jeff Bertrand www.jbmicrofinish.com

[marks914]

Mark

Your gauges are incredible! Can you also do custom work like this?

Larry

Hey larry
Just wanted to let you know that we are building similar packages for Old Dog Street Rods, these look similar to what you posted, and can be made in any color.

I think they are way below the competition.

Mark

http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/28144/2315275500057582025S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2315275500057582025RkXmRT)
http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/44238/2013144440057582025S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2013144440057582025pchSqo)
http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/47004/2138659300057582025S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2138659300057582025qymLvo)

[55Sedan]

Mark,

Those look terrific! Thanks for letting me know!

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Thanks for the bump
I should have some updates tomorrow (saturday) with some images of the direction we are going. Here is a sneak peek:
Mark
http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/46159/2518953880057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2518953880057582025IYbvbb)

What is your price on these they look GREAT!. PM me if you want

[GregWeld]

Mark --

I need new gauge set up for the 56 Nomad - but your speedo is a bit on the LOW side... How 'bout kickin' it up a notch to like 160 MPH??

Was just shopping Dakota Digital -- their new VTX line is looking mighty sharp...


Hey larry
Just wanted to let you know that we are building similar packages for Old Dog Street Rods, these look similar to what you posted, and can be made in any color.

I think they are way below the competition.

Mark

http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/28144/2315275500057582025S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2315275500057582025RkXmRT)
http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/44238/2013144440057582025S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2013144440057582025pchSqo)
http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/47004/2138659300057582025S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2138659300057582025qymLvo)

[marks914]

Hi guys
the 55-56 clusters are sold through Old Dog Street Rods, we cannot sell them direct. I'd like to take a shot at building one with a tach

As for an update on the 3-1 gauges, we have the design and programming complete! We are having issues with some of the tool shops and parts suppliers suddenly wanting to change their quotes to about 3X what they were 60 days ago (quotes good for 90 days). So, now we are dealing with that, hopefully this will be worked out in a few days or we will find a new suppliers for these components, which delays things.

We will have stand-alone units as well as bolt-in packages for 67-68 camaro and a 69 Camaro package.

Mark

[wellis77]

Hey Mark,
I'm looking at your website and am curious when the redline series will be available? I don't need them yet, but am curious and also what sort of LED color options will be available? I was originally going to do Dakota Digital and have recently been very interested in the Autometer Nexus series. I just noticed the Redline's for the first time and I like the idea of being able to customize the gauge and face. Will

[marks914]

Hey Mark,
I'm looking at your website and am curious when the redline series will be available? I don't need them yet, but am curious and also what sort of LED color options will be available? I was originally going to do Dakota Digital and have recently been very interested in the Autometer Nexus series. I just noticed the Redline's for the first time and I like the idea of being able to customize the gauge and face. Will

We can build the redlines any time, its just the dials that are different. All of our stepper motor gauges are the same, white or amber LED lighting, its the dial and bezel that make the looks different.
It sounds like you need something custom, let us know what you need, a custom set runs $700-$900 depending on the time it takes to design the dials and how many colors are on them, Still less expensive than the competition's off the shelf product! I think those Nexus sets run about $1200.00
Why not get a custom set the way you want for less? Dont go digital!
Mark

[wellis77]

Thanks for the info Mark. I definitely want to do something custom, I'm just not sure what I want it to look like yet. I know the simple things having blinker, bright, & e-brake indicators in the tach & speedo. Just not sure of the dial. I'll have to think about that a bit. I want a full sweep gauge and really like the look of the Redline's, though the 2020's have a more simple look and may take better to a custom dial. I'll need to spend some time studying my render to see what would complement it well as a gauge dial.

[marks914]

OK
Finally!
The processors showed up yesterday and we will begin building them in a couple of weeks.
Pricing will range from $499-$550 depending on the level of gauge and mounting solution.
It took way longer than we wanted, but we are finally able to start production.
Will have updates in the next week or so with the launch date and exact pricing.
These will be avaialble in the 67-68 style shown, our 69, Redline, Woodward and 67 series.
Another great feature is we also have matching ancillary gauges (EGT, A/F ratio, Boost, oil temp, N2o press, trans temp, etc) that match the 3-1s, so you can add-on, maintain the look and save space in the dash.

As always, made in Detroit and with our 5-year warranty!

Mark

[youthpastor]

OK
Finally!
The processors showed up yesterday and we will begin building them in a couple of weeks.
Pricing will range from $499-$550 depending on the level of gauge and mounting solution.
It took way longer than we wanted, but we are finally able to start production.
Will have updates in the next week or so with the launch date and exact pricing.
These will be avaialble in the 67-68 style shown, our 69, Redline, Woodward and 67 series.
Another great feature is we also have matching ancillary gauges (EGT, A/F ratio, Boost, oil temp, N2o press, trans temp, etc) that match the 3-1s, so you can add-on, maintain the look and save space in the dash.

As always, made in Detroit and with our 5-year warranty!

Mark

right on! these are going to fill a big void for 67-68 Guys!

[68KMARO]

outstanding work, those pieces are great. nice job and congratulations on your company and your new products.

rich

[rjsjea]

Subscribed.......I need to get gauges

[killer67]

Subscribed.......I need to get gauges

X2 :thumbsup:

[kiwigt]

Love the look of these. Would it be possible to do a Km/h speedo ?

[marks914]

Thanks guys,
I'll have some pics in a about a week, still finishing up the testing and need to tweak the programming on the speedo a bit.

We will be able to to metric units as well, no problem.

Stay tuned.

Mark

[marks914]

OK,
Here is the artwork on the first two versions of the gauges. the first, the 68 series, has the flavor of 67,68 Camaro/Firebird while the 69 series has more of the 69 style. Just finished testing and tweaking the programming, burned some chips this morning and everything is ready to go!

Pricing? We will be taking pre-launch orders on the 69 series for $499 and the 68 series are $525. We will also have the 67-68 mounting brackets available for $49.00. The bezels are available in stainless or hyperblack.

This is a pre-launch special, we plan to print dials this week and start delivery of the products by the end of the month. We are also building similar products as a private label for other manufacturers, so keep an eye out for those as well.

Both sets are backlit, feature a GM match fuel gauge, turn signals, hi beam, check engine and warning lamps, all integrated in the gauge. Easily wired via our color-coded packard harnesses.

Need to monitor boost, EGT, A/F ratio as well? We have matching 2-1/16" gauges for that as well for a complete, integrated system.

As always, we can build a custom set as well, any color, graphics, etc.

I'll get more info on our website in the next couple of days.
Here are the pics:
68 Series:
http://inlinethumb25.webshots.com/15576/2285444930057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2285444930057582025uSSAtL)

69 Series:
http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/19118/2825880050057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2825880050057582025yikLrG)


Packard connector backs with harnesses:
http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/43270/2874161130057582025S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2874161130057582025tZsOdB)

[marks914]

OK,
All of the pre-order info is up on our website. We only have enough left to build 12 more sets as of this morning, so the sooner the better, we will be building another batch in late feb/early march.
The 3-1 page just crashed, they are available in our store, just click the link on the top of our website to the store main page, then search for 3-1
Mark

[marks914]

The page is back up:
http://www.newvintageusa.com/future.html
Mark

[marks914]

Here are some updated images, as promised:

The 68 Series:
http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/19071/2340786240057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2340786240057582025dfPEUX)

http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/28510/2722633750057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2722633750057582025BTYDfD)

1969 Series
http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/46111/2810942750057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2810942750057582025VZhcuc)

http://inlinethumb12.webshots.com/3211/2932629250057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2932629250057582025NOYDSU)

More hotrod/street rod, the Woodward Series
http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/3370/2165914380057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2165914380057582025EkxSAU)

http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/46301/2388071770057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2388071770057582025KFmyro)


Eventually we will stock these in the 1940, 1967 Performance and Redline Series of gauges, and of course, we can alwas build a custom set

Mark

[marks914]

Here are some more pics,
The mounting plate for 67-68 Camaro/Firebird:
http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/46992/2546155190057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2546155190057582025SBgxpv)
http://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/4407/2542711490057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2542711490057582025LyeEuR)
Panel is about as simple as it gets, you can also see the nice packard connectors we mold into the housing.

Here is a 68 series set with stainless bezels, installed in the 67-68 panel. You can also see how the 69 series has a deadfront over the indicators, so they are hidden when off.
http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/46790/2605687160057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2605687160057582025tTFMGT)

As requested, here is a pic of the titanium bezels. They are black, but its more of a smoked chrome, much classier than black.
http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/47572/2103355790057582025S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2103355790057582025oXzFqQ)
Mark

[ItDoRun]

Send me a PM with the price of thse 67-68 gauges you show in the pictures above.