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Al Moreno
01-16-2010, 04:44 PM
It looks like Frank's Empty Nest will be back at Barrett.

Interesting to see if it brings more. I think that cars was worth a lot more. Perhaps the new owner thinks he'll make a profit.

70rs
01-16-2010, 04:55 PM
that is one I will be watching for. Do you know the time it goes over the block? Or the lot number?

Roger M
01-16-2010, 05:10 PM
Lot 1239 (http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/currentcarlist.aspx?aid=304&sd=01%2f19%2f2010&ed=01%2f19%2f2010)

tgvettes
01-16-2010, 05:56 PM
That is a car that I would love to have.
I hope I get to see it next weekend.

Tonny

Garage Dog 65
01-16-2010, 05:58 PM
highjack..

Rad Rides Bumongous is 93.

70rs
01-16-2010, 06:03 PM
Lot 1239 (http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/currentcarlist.aspx?aid=304&sd=01%2f19%2f2010&ed=01%2f19%2f2010)

Thanks! It should go through early Saturday. :cheers:

I'm not bidding, just very curious.

Van B
01-16-2010, 06:35 PM
I get the idea that Barrett Jackson just held onto the car after the new owner was not able to get it thru emissions. Not all that uncommon for auctions to pay the seller and have the buyer not end up taking the car for one reason or another. If the auction company owns the car you can bet it runs in the best possible time slot.

Blake Foster
01-16-2010, 07:54 PM
I get the idea that Barrett Jackson just held onto the car after the new owner was not able to get it thru emissions. Not all that uncommon for auctions to pay the seller and have the buyer not end up taking the car for one reason or another. If the auction company owns the car you can bet it runs in the best possible time slot.

X2 i agree,
funny i have a buddy with a car here this year and he is LESS THan impressed with the process!!!

ironworks
01-16-2010, 08:15 PM
I thought it was funny it got a better time slot on round 2. Gotta love BJ

Vegas69
01-16-2010, 08:37 PM
Franks my boy but that car just doesn't bling going across the block. White is not an ideal color for those lights. I don't think it will go for much more.

GregWeld
01-16-2010, 09:00 PM
If you remember - this car could NOT be sold in Nevada (the Vegas auction) because it couldn't clear Nevada SMOG... so the buyer couldn't take the car - and BJ worked a deal with Frank and everybody went away happy.

1239 is a good Saturday number - my old Vette is 1351 so running a bit later...

Here's my thoughts on this auction -- while the economy has improved - there seems to be a greater number of even better cars available.. Some real serious cars are going begging on the market. My old Vette is a "normal car" - that should ordinarily sell without a hitch for good money. But it's also going against about 6 other 67 red Vettes -- so the competition is kinda like houses right now - theres LOTS of them so buyers can be choosey.

Just look at how many nice cars have been offered for sale right here in the last month!

Steve1968LS2
01-16-2010, 09:55 PM
I thought it was funny it got a better time slot on round 2. Gotta love BJ

Well, when you own the company those things happen.. lol

Will be interesting to see what happens.

Flash68
01-16-2010, 10:09 PM
Well, when you own the company those things happen.. lol

Will be interesting to see what happens.

Yeah, not funny at all. Very predictable actually.

DEIGuy38
01-16-2010, 10:31 PM
Ring Bros Reactor is lot 1287

ironworks
01-16-2010, 11:19 PM
Well, when you own the company those things happen.. lol

Will be interesting to see what happens.

Actually that really shows how things must work. Probably not that funny considering how many people have lost a fortune under there structure. If emptynest was not worth a saturday spot before at vegas. Seems funny that it is worth a saturday spot at scottsdale.

Flash68
01-16-2010, 11:25 PM
Actually that really shows how things must work. Probably not that funny considering how many people have lost a fortune under there structure. If emptynest was not worth a saturday spot before at vegas. Seems funny that it is worth a saturday spot at scottsdale.

It's not really funny, but it's no surprise to anyone that knows how things work there. It's nepotism at its very core.

When you're the boss or own the company, you call the shots and move things around in your favor. Pretty simple really.

I am not defending BJ - far from it - but "lost a fortune under their structure"? No one is forced to put their car in a no-reserve auction. I don't have any sympathy for anyone who "loses money" there. It's gambling plain and simple.

MarkM66
01-17-2010, 04:12 AM
Actually that really shows how things must work. Probably not that funny considering how many people have lost a fortune under there structure. If emptynest was not worth a saturday spot before at vegas. Seems funny that it is worth a saturday spot at scottsdale.

I agree.

Also;

If the Nevada smog thing is the reason it didn't sell the first time. So out of the thousands of cars BJ have sold, they never sold an old car to a person living in Nevada before? :question:

tgvettes
01-17-2010, 07:02 AM
What's so different with Nevada Smog? We have at least a few heavily built pro touring cars on here that are in Nevada.

Tonny

ProdigyCustoms
01-17-2010, 07:34 AM
Actualy , you guys are wrong, They DID NOT give it a better time slot which stunned me. My friend has a few prime time cars and EmptyNest is a few hours before Prime Time. I am guessing 2 to 4 PM pacific time. I would have thought this thing would get THE number since it is their money.

At Vegas it ran PRIME TIME, best slot it could have gotten.

Barrett Jackson has been comendable through the entire process including paying me for the car when they made a mistake about Nevada emissions and NOT burning a kiiller number on themselves to run it this weekend.

I am very impressed they bought it, did not take THE Prime Time number, and gave those numbers to oters.

I truely hope they hit a home run on it. They never responded to my offer to promote the car, so I will be watching from the cheap seats at home

ProdigyCustoms
01-17-2010, 07:35 AM
What's so different with Nevada Smog? We have at least a few heavily built pro touring cars on here that are in Nevada.

Tonny

Long story short it had to have a original for that year motor complete with smog system for that year. Some of that was missing, LOL!

ProdigyCustoms
01-17-2010, 07:40 AM
Actually that really shows how things must work. Probably not that funny considering how many people have lost a fortune under there structure. If emptynest was not worth a saturday spot before at vegas. Seems funny that it is worth a saturday spot at scottsdale.

It ran on THE Prime Time number on Saturday agas, 6PM Saturday at Vegas, 6PM is good as it gets

II Much ran Friday

Gotta give credit were credit is due, they could have burned a Prime Time number on it for this auction with ease

wiedemab
01-17-2010, 08:20 AM
Dumb question Frank, but weren't there a bunch of other cars that would have been in the same boat as Empty Nest?

How did they handles those - ie: II Much?

ProdigyCustoms
01-17-2010, 08:59 AM
It only pertained to cars that were sold to Nevada residents. And as I understand specifcally too that county maybe. Nevada goes all the way back to 1968 for emmision, most states only go to 1975. It failed on the cisual, not the sniffer, they never got that far.

So there were only 2 cars that fell in that catagory oif being old enough, modified enough, and sold to residents in the affected area. Other cars sold to area residents, but were either original or out of affected range.. I have no idea what happened to the other car or what that car even was.

All I know is they offered to either pay me off or I could keep it and get a smoking Saturday number for Scottsdale. There was no option to just keep it, and I was happy with the price anyway. So I said, pay me.

GregWeld
01-17-2010, 12:38 PM
Good choice Frank -- a bird in the hand.... and never look back.
:thumbsup:

Bill Howell
01-18-2010, 06:22 PM
Good choice Frank -- a bird in the hand.... and never look back.
:thumbsup:

actually in this case, it was a "bird" out of hand...haha

GregWeld
01-18-2010, 06:28 PM
Oh -- Good one Bill!! :rofl:

Selling cars is like buying or selling stocks -- if you buy a stock - it goes down the next day -- if you buy a car - someone offers you one that's twice as nice for half the price the next day... If you Sell -- the stock goes up the next day -- and if you sell a car - a buddy says "heck - I'd have given you twice that but didn't know you wanted to sell"...
:thumbsup:

parsonsj
01-19-2010, 10:02 AM
Sorry to hijack... but I can't stand it:

Did you know NASA spent millions developing a pen that could be used in space (no gravity) while the Russians solved the problem by using pencils? Untrue. It's an urban legend.

jp

GregWeld
01-19-2010, 10:12 AM
No doubt John -- but it's still funny.

Vegas69
01-19-2010, 10:13 AM
What kind of crap are you trying to spread Weld?

GregWeld
01-19-2010, 10:18 AM
My daddy always taught me - spread it wide and deep.

Hey Todd -- forget coming over to BJ - RAINING AND COLD

GregWeld
01-19-2010, 10:19 AM
Sorry to hijack... but I can't stand it:

Untrue. It's an urban legend.

jp

That would explain why I use it -- I live in the SUBurbs... this is only false in URBAN areas.
:rofl:

parsonsj
01-19-2010, 10:21 AM
it's still funnyIf you say so...

96z28ss
01-19-2010, 10:40 AM
My daddy always taught me - spread it wide and deep.

Hey Todd -- forget coming over to BJ - RAINING AND COLD

You must feel at home Greg. Raining and cold.

GregWeld
01-19-2010, 11:09 AM
If you say so...


John -- You're just jealous of my name.... :rofl:

If you really hate it -- and it rubs you the wrong way - I will delete it. Seriously.

ProdigyCustoms
01-23-2010, 10:18 AM
Not only did they not burn a prime time spot on themselves, it looks like it won't even make the TV coverage. They are showing results on the website for number 1216 already, which is at least a 10 minute delay, EmptyNest is 1239 and they do not start TV coverage for another hour. Maybe it is a good thing I don't have to watch, LOL!

I comend them for NOT burning that Primetime spot, but think it is STUPID to not even get it during TV coverage.

I got a call last night from Bret (Air Ride) he said I need to get out there and clean it up, it was filthy!

zbugger
01-23-2010, 11:09 AM
Show started and they're were at 1235.1, so unless they put a commercial over it....

70rs
01-23-2010, 11:15 AM
It is at commercial right now. One car....ten ads......two cars......20 ads......I am really not impressed with the coverage this year. Speed over sold the hell out of the airtime. Maybe with any luck the ratings will be down and next year there will be longer runs between commercials. But I doubt it.

EDIT: Now it is on stage behind a charity mustang (Hurst/pace car) . I bet it goes to commercial RIGHT before it gets on the block! AAARRGGGHHHH! These guys suck!

camcojb
01-23-2010, 11:26 AM
EDIT: Now it is on stage behind a charity mustang (Hurst?pace car) . I bet it goes to commercial RIGHT before it gets on the block! AAARRGGGHHHH! These guys suck!
I would almost guarantee it................very disappointing how often they cut away for commercials this year.

Jody

camcojb
01-23-2010, 11:33 AM
well, we called that one. I hope there's plenty of backlash................ they're still at commercial.

camcojb
01-23-2010, 11:35 AM
crap............. $60K, you did good Frank!

ProdigyCustoms
01-23-2010, 11:35 AM
At $60K, I made the best decision EVER taking it to Vegas.

zbugger
01-23-2010, 11:35 AM
$60,000. They just talked about it RIGHT at the end of the auction when they got back from commercial. What did Frank get for it?

camcojb
01-23-2010, 11:36 AM
At $60K, I made the best decision EVER taking it to Vegas.
yep, you did good my friend............ :yes:

Jody

70rs
01-23-2010, 11:36 AM
Either they bought it back again or just lost their asses on it. 60k.


Frank, you did good by taking the money in Vegas.

It hung at 45k for a long time then started again, I think they were bumping it themselves. That is a shame, because it is such a nice car. It really deserves more money and a better time slot.

camcojb
01-23-2010, 11:36 AM
$60,000. They just talked about it RIGHT at the end of the auction when they got back from commercial. What did Frank get for it?
$85K

Jody

ProdigyCustoms
01-23-2010, 11:38 AM
The auction is so weak. I have a friend lost over $100K on a dozen cars. Damn I am hold it for Scottsdale, $60K was a kill myself number.

g356gear
01-23-2010, 11:39 AM
Brutal coverage!! Only caught the last few seconds of it because of the commercial overlap. I wonder if they did that intentionally?

ProdigyCustoms
01-23-2010, 11:39 AM
Either they bought it back again or just lost their asses on it. 60k.


Frank, you did good by taking the money in Vegas.

It hung at 45k for a long time then started again, I think they were bumping it themselves. That is a shame, because it is such a nice car. It really deserves more money and a better time slot.

It's a Firebird.

70rs
01-23-2010, 11:41 AM
Did any of you watch the live feed on Speed.com? They were struggling at 45k. I think whoever got it made one hell of a buy that's for sure!

70rs
01-23-2010, 11:42 AM
It's a Firebird.

I get that, but it's not just ANY Firebird. Maybe my head is up my a** on it, but I really think it should have been much higher.

(it is a common place for my head to be recently:lol: )

ProdigyCustoms
01-23-2010, 11:50 AM
I am cool with what I got, but I would never put that kind of time and money into a Firebird again. You can see the value difference even when they are needing everything they bring half what a Camaro would.

onevoice
01-23-2010, 12:09 PM
It's not like it was something really oddball, it was a firebird!! I've crawled over and under it in person, and it is fantastic from end to end. Someone got a helluva deal, it couldn't be replicated for that.

Wasn't someone asking recently why so many people build camaros? Here was a reason.

Dayton
01-23-2010, 12:20 PM
You guys need DVR's. I would shoot myself if I watched live and couldn't click through the commericals.

Vegas69
01-23-2010, 12:21 PM
Wow.....that's a crazy deal for that car. The flippin motor is 30k all by itself.:willy:

70rs
01-23-2010, 12:40 PM
You guys need DVR's. I would shoot myself if I watched live and couldn't click through the commericals.

Got one. But it was live and I couldn't stand to walk away and come back later to watch. :lol:
It's all about instant gratification ya know?:willy:

jack67rs
01-23-2010, 01:08 PM
I can't believe it sold for that!! You know you can watch it streaming live on the Barrett web site, no commercials.

Steve1968LS2
01-23-2010, 01:55 PM
That's cheap for sure.. hell, g-28 went for $29k and Franks car is 10 times nicer...

Some stuff going cheap.. some not. How about the black stock Nova for $120k the other day.. Red Witch did pretty good as well.

G-Body
01-23-2010, 04:41 PM
You would think these dumb asssss people would get a clue that its not by accident that year after year people loose there asssses on there pride and joy of a car by taking it to Barret Jackson. unless its a high end car with a huge pedigree or a 1 of 5 type of car the nomal bidders loose there assss and i dont feel sorry for them with no reserve on these cars. but thats just the way BJ does there event what a joke.

70rs
01-23-2010, 04:45 PM
You would think these dumb asssss people would get a clue that its not by accident that year after year people loose there asssses on there pride and joy of a car by taking it to Barret Jackson. unless its a high end car with a huge pedigree or a 1 of 5 type of car the nomal bidders loose there assss and i dont feel sorry for them with no reserve on these cars. but thats just the way BJ does there event what a joke.

And as long as there is customers there will be the auctions. I don't understand why it works the way it does, but they make money hand over fist every year and keep increasing the auction locations every year too.
Maybe it is the thrill of the chase for some buyers, a quick sale for builders or collectors who want to get on to the next car...who knows.

SWAPMEETCRAZY
01-23-2010, 04:46 PM
You would think these dumb asssss people would get a clue that its not by accident that year after year people loose there asssses on there pride and joy of a car by taking it to Barret Jackson. unless its a high end car with a huge pedigree or a 1 of 5 type of car the nomal bidders loose there assss and i dont feel sorry for them with no reserve on these cars. but thats just the way BJ does there event what a joke.

Did I dream this or did they not say the new one in Orange Co. was going to be a reserve auction?? someone correct me if i'm wrong--jim

Vegas69
01-23-2010, 04:47 PM
Supply and demand....way to many cars available at Barrrett Jackson, not to mention all the deals on the private market. It's a tough time to sell anything.

SWAPMEETCRAZY
01-23-2010, 04:54 PM
Supply and demand....way to many cars available at Barrrett Jackson, not to mention all the deals on the private market. It's a tough time to sell anything.

xx2 !!

MarkM66
01-23-2010, 04:54 PM
You would think these dumb asssss people would get a clue that its not by accident that year after year people loose there asssses on there pride and joy of a car by taking it to Barret Jackson. unless its a high end car with a huge pedigree or a 1 of 5 type of car the nomal bidders loose there assss and i dont feel sorry for them with no reserve on these cars. but thats just the way BJ does there event what a joke.

Once again, you're clueless!

People are lossing their asses? Who? What car? People keep taking their cars there because they ARE getting good money.

SWAPMEETCRAZY
01-23-2010, 05:01 PM
Once again, you're clueless!

People are lossing their asses? Who? What car? People keep taking their cars there because they ARE getting good money.

Mark , what was your opinion on the 49 international (maroon ) pickup on
tuesday's sale selling for 22k?? I know it was a long bed , but with the help of Speed cameras, It looked way underpriced for condition!! Just don't see how u can transport and then another 10% and call it a good day!!! jim

MarkM66
01-23-2010, 05:04 PM
Mark , what was your opinion on the 49 international (maroon ) pickup on
tuesday's sale selling for 22k?? I know it was a long bed , but with the help of Speed cameras, It looked way underpriced for condition!! Just don't see how u can transport and then another 10% and call it a good day!!! jim

No clue. Not my thing, fastforward right by it.

I'm not saying all go high.

SWAPMEETCRAZY
01-23-2010, 05:12 PM
I will agree with Mark in this respect--Nobody forces the seller to show up or the buyer to purchase!! After watching about 14 hrs of this spectacle--It still is amazing and more power to those involved(except the commercials!!!!!!):unibrow:

GregWeld
01-23-2010, 05:49 PM
Well -- Trust me -- I'm HERE and have friends with approximately 60 cars running -- and they are NOT happy... Sales are "weak"... bid on many cars are tough. Some are going nicely.

Yes - you are right in that nobody forces a seller to bring a car to BJ - or any other auction... and many times in the PAST most got a nice bid on their cars... but the past is just that.

It's GAMBLING to put your car in a no reserve auction... and unless you're a "somebody" you're not going to get a prime time number. If you think you are - you're very uneducated about how this all works.

Frank --- The old bird in the hand... you did the right thing -- and yes - "your" car was FILTHY. There was nobody there 'pimpin' it either. You want top dollar for your cars at a venue like this - somebody has to be there BEFORE it rolls to discuss it and help the bidders be confident. Charley got good money for his cars -- because he was there "selling"....

SWAPMEETCRAZY
01-23-2010, 06:04 PM
Well -- Trust me -- I'm HERE and have friends with approximately 60 cars running -- and they are NOT happy... Sales are "weak"... bid on many cars are tough. Some are going nicely.

Yes - you are right in that nobody forces a seller to bring a car to BJ - or any other auction... and many times in the PAST most got a nice bid on their cars... but the past is just that.

It's GAMBLING to put your car in a no reserve auction... and unless you're a "somebody" you're not going to get a prime time number. If you think you are - you're very uneducated about how this all works.

Frank --- The old bird in the hand... you did the right thing -- and yes - "your" car was FILTHY. There was nobody there 'pimpin' it either. You want top dollar for your cars at a venue like this - somebody has to be there BEFORE it rolls to discuss it and help the bidders be confident. Charley got good money for his cars -- because he was there "selling"....

Glad u posted Greg-I was going to start a thread tommorow getting your overall opinion on this year's B.J. Scottsdale!! Thanx for the update--Wish I was there!! jim

GregWeld
01-23-2010, 06:19 PM
The atmosphere strikes me more on the "bargain hunting" and there feels like -- okay - it's BJ - but "ho hum"... maybe I'll buy something -- but not really any big deal. The weather is cold - it's too hot inside and too cold outside... but DEFINITELY more people here today than yesterday by twice! The outdoor vendors have just gotten their asses handed to them. One guy I talked to lost 20 GRAND in inventory... had virtually zero sales until today - and was really really bummed...

There are some really nice cars here this year - and that actually might be the reason that sales numbers don't seem to be outstanding... because there's a lot to choose from - if you know what I'm saying. Remember too - that it takes TWO or more bidders to run up the price - and there seems to be a real lack of multiple bidders - but the night is still young!

SWAPMEETCRAZY
01-23-2010, 06:49 PM
The atmosphere strikes me more on the "bargain hunting" and there feels like -- okay - it's BJ - but "ho hum"... maybe I'll buy something -- but not really any big deal. The weather is cold - it's too hot inside and too cold outside... but DEFINITELY more people here today than yesterday by twice! The outdoor vendors have just gotten their asses handed to them. One guy I talked to lost 20 GRAND in inventory... had virtually zero sales until today - and was really really bummed...

There are some really nice cars here this year - and that actually might be the reason that sales numbers don't seem to be outstanding... because there's a lot to choose from - if you know what I'm saying. Remember too - that it takes TWO or more bidders to run up the price - and there seems to be a real lack of multiple bidders - but the night is still young!

Thanx again--Have Fun!!! :thumbsup:

ProdigyCustoms
01-23-2010, 08:02 PM
I had a few reasons for choosing Vegas instead of Scottsdale. My decisions were based on:

(1) First and very important, supply and demand, I thought at Vegas EmptyNest would be a superstar, and at Scottsdale just another nice car lost in a see of amazing cars. I think I was right there also, I think that is exactly what happened.

(2) In early September when I made the decision, the stock market was going up, up, up. And the stock market went up every single day of the auction too. In October and oil and fuel prices were still under $70 barrel and under $2.50 gallon. I thought some people might have false feeling of confidence in the economy. I made the right choice, the market has been down and oil and gas are up!

(3) I thought there was a high likely hood things would not be as good economically, and I was almost certain people would be less enchanted with the government and some of things that have been happening. Without getting to political. I made the right decision there also, disapproval ratings are climbing at a faster rate then Bush, the new guys numbers are lower at a quicker pace then the old guy. And people with money are very politically active and are very frustrated with the way things are going. I hear it everyday.

And Greg is correct, the car sitting there dirty and no one there selling it, running it across the block with the ass stuck in the air with the air ride on kill, they got what they deserved.

But as for pimping the car, I worked the car every open minute at Vegas and at the end of the day, just did not get the strong players.

Flash68
01-23-2010, 08:10 PM
I love the car but honestly think a different color combo would have made a world of difference. White with blue ain't gonna cut it for 9 out of 10 buyers IMO.

In the end, you done good Frank!

ProdigyCustoms
01-23-2010, 09:24 PM
I think you exactly correct. if you do not appreciate the tribute theme of the white and blue 1969 Trans Ams, you wonder why it is white and blue. Not my favorite colors. I think colors and being a Firebird both hurt it. I do have to think had I built it the original black and gold theme I had rendered, it probably would have done better. But I built it to pay tribute to the orignal, but no one cared, LOL!

Lisa still wants one she can drive. I have a body and we are collecting parts to do another, MUCH less radical version. I will keep the investment low and still maike it a fun car, easy to get the money out of. Body will be the same exact theme, roll bar, boot, extc, but mild LS motor for sure, and black and gold, Screw the Pontiac guys, they did not respect it anyway. So i will put a LS in it and Bowtie emblem on the tail pan!

Vegas69
01-23-2010, 11:59 PM
I was never crazy about the car. It was apparent it was a personal build for Lisa. Not taking anything away from the execution. It's a gorgeous car, but not a Barrett Jackson candidate. Frank, you did well buddy. :cheers:

Josh69
01-24-2010, 07:53 AM
Damn, you did good getting out of it when you did Frank! It's a bummer for us Firebird guys, but that's why I didn't go overboard with my bird. Just the name of the game. This is my first bird, but I likely won't do another Pontiac unless it's a nut and bolt restoration on a desirable car. A stock '69 400 coupe went for $60K at R&M I think I heard, which was a bright spot I suppose. But, you're right, Pontiac people are self righteous most of the time. My car draws the crowd at the local shows...but typically the Pontiac guys snub me the entire time, 10' away. F@ck em, put an LS into the next one. I would have in hindsight.

ProdigyCustoms
01-24-2010, 10:02 AM
I was never crazy about the car. It was apparent it was a personal build for Lisa. Not taking anything away from the execution. It's a gorgeous car, but not a Barrett Jackson candidate. Frank, you did well buddy. :cheers:

Well f__k you 2! I don't like black 69 Camaros either..............wait......I guess I do since I have one of those too! DAMN! LOL!

No, we did not build ot for resale value, just wanted to see it done.

The next in house project we are building (working on it today in fact) is not being built for resale value either and is a total different style then EmptyNest. And we already picked the love it or hate it, most likely to ofend color ever. So we could fall right into the same catagory when we sell it too. Whatever.

DOOM
01-24-2010, 10:25 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :thumbsup: Well f__k you 2! I don't like black 69 Camaros either..............wait......I guess I do since I have one of those too! DAMN! LOL!

No, we did not build ot for resale value, just wanted to see it done.

The next in house project we are building (working on it today in fact) is not being built for resale value either and is a total different style then EmptyNest. And we already picked the love it or hate it, most likely to ofend color ever. So we could fall right into the same catagory when we sell it too. Whatever.

Vegas69
01-24-2010, 11:45 AM
I didn't say I hated it...it just wasn't black or a Camaro. :rofl: It sure would be interesting to see how colors effect selling prices at Barrett.

Flash68
01-24-2010, 12:52 PM
Well f__k you 2! I don't like black 69 Camaros either..............wait......I guess I do since I have one of those too! DAMN! LOL!

No, we did not build ot for resale value, just wanted to see it done.

The next in house project we are building (working on it today in fact) is not being built for resale value either and is a total different style then EmptyNest. And we already picked the love it or hate it, most likely to ofend color ever. So we could fall right into the same catagory when we sell it too. Whatever.

:lol: :cheers:

MarkM66
01-24-2010, 02:31 PM
I had a few reasons for choosing Vegas instead of Scottsdale. My decisions were based on:

(1) First and very important, supply and demand, I thought at Vegas EmptyNest would be a superstar, and at Scottsdale just another nice car lost in a see of amazing cars. I think I was right there also, I think that is exactly what happened.

(2) In early September when I made the decision, the stock market was going up, up, up. And the stock market went up every single day of the auction too. In October and oil and fuel prices were still under $70 barrel and under $2.50 gallon. I thought some people might have false feeling of confidence in the economy. I made the right choice, the market has been down and oil and gas are up!

(3) I thought there was a high likely hood things would not be as good economically, and I was almost certain people would be less enchanted with the government and some of things that have been happening. Without getting to political. I made the right decision there also, disapproval ratings are climbing at a faster rate then Bush, the new guys numbers are lower at a quicker pace then the old guy. And people with money are very politically active and are very frustrated with the way things are going. I hear it everyday.

And Greg is correct, the car sitting there dirty and no one there selling it, running it across the block with the ass stuck in the air with the air ride on kill, they got what they deserved.

But as for pimping the car, I worked the car every open minute at Vegas and at the end of the day, just did not get the strong players.

Frank, as for the guy who had the winning bid at LV. Did he ever talk to you about the car before it went on the block? Just curious.

GregWeld
01-24-2010, 03:28 PM
Frank -- Keep it all "Pontiac" -- put an LS GTO take out in it!

LOL

They'd still hate it - AND now you know why I quit the NCRS!!

tgvettes
01-24-2010, 07:13 PM
oh god Greg where you in NCRS? I have owned a bunch of Corvettes and used to belong to a few local Corvette clubs and had to deal with NCRS a bit. I'm happy you recovered.
:unibrow:

Tonny

GregWeld
01-24-2010, 07:19 PM
oh god Greg where you in NCRS? I have owned a bunch of Corvettes and used to belong to a few local Corvette clubs and had to deal with NCRS a bit. I'm happy you recovered.
:unibrow:

Tonny

I don't drink - don't smoke - and don't do NCRS.... I overdid all of them.

:woot:

pavell
01-25-2010, 12:13 AM
the NCRS guys practically drove me out of the corvette hobby. I couldn't stand them.

96z28ss
01-25-2010, 11:04 AM
The guy that bid on Empty Nest in Vegas would of got a much better deal this time around.

tgvettes
01-25-2010, 11:51 AM
I think it is pretty amazing that BJ would take a car back because the buyer can't emission it in the state he lives. I think that should be up to the buyer before he buys something to check that out.

Tonny

boonedog
01-25-2010, 12:12 PM
i loved the car and thought the theme was dead nuts. very nice:thumbsup:

GregWeld
01-25-2010, 12:39 PM
Tonny -

Silver auctions warns people REPEATEDLY that if you are a NEVADA resident - to NOT bid on a car that didn't SMOG... So either BJ is a complete newb at this and didn't warn the bidders -- or the bidder wasn't paying attention...

When you sign over your title at BJ no reserve auction - THEY are the seller - and when they hammer it SOLD IT SOLD IT SOLD IT... it's THEIR problem. They did the right thing by asking Frank if he'd rather try again at Scottsdale -- or they'd pay him the selling price. Very nice and proper of them in my opinion. Who knows - Frank may have been unhappy with the price - or wanted to gamble that maybe he'd get more at Scottsdale... but that was for him to decide. As it happens - he gambled correctly and is happy.

Especially when he looks in that fun house mirror....:rofl:

ProdigyCustoms
01-25-2010, 04:57 PM
New owner called today, he is pretty damn excited. BJ told him someone in California had it and was playing with it until a couple weeks ago. BJ also showed him their notes, they expected $155K for it!

I guess the console is crushed, maybe someone sat on it? He asked if there was anything I would do to it, I explained I would tame the engine down, change the camshaft (smaller). It might very well be coming home to Florida.

He says he has 20 cars, shows them, drives them all a little. He is not going to beat on this one. I was real up front about a car with a pearl white engine compartment gets pretty heat stained when driven a lot (I know). He realizes it is a show piece and promises to keep it 100% perfect forever. It even sounds like I might have acsess to it or he may show up at places we go. Would that not be cool. This is interesting to say the least.

SWAPMEETCRAZY
01-25-2010, 05:07 PM
New owner called today, he is pretty damn excited. BJ told him someone in California had it and was playing with it until a couple weeks ago. BJ also showed him their notes, they expected $155K for it!

I guess the console is crushed, maybe someone sat on it? He asked if there was anything I would do to it, I explained I would tame the engine down, change the camshaft (smaller). It might very well be coming home to Florida.

He says he has 20 cars, shows them, drives them all a little. He is not going to beat on this one. I was real up front about a car with a pearl white engine compartment gets pretty heat stained when driven a lot (I know). He realizes it is a show piece and promises to keep it 100% perfect forever. It even sounds like I might have acsess to it or he may show up at places we go. Would that not be cool. This is interesting to say the least.

Just goes to show u Frank that good things happen to GOOD PEOPLE (that's U Frank!!! ) lol ---- Love that car --jim :D

GregWeld
01-25-2010, 05:08 PM
That's good to hear Frank! Maybe you gain a loyal customer - and that would really make the sale "worthwhile"!

The new owner should be pretty happy -- he stole it...

xplantdad
01-25-2010, 07:09 PM
Isn't it funny how things always work out for the best? Congrats Frank...

I, too liked the theme and how the car turned out.

Next up for me...the Arizona Nationals drag races in Chandler...

Greg...something cool is going to happen there...more later on that as items get confirmed!:thumbsup:

buickfunnycar.com
01-26-2010, 10:06 AM
Sounds good Frank...:yes:

Rybar
01-26-2010, 11:01 AM
That is very cool, seems like a win-win for you and the new owner.

And BJ lost a few bucks but I am sure they made up for the tiny loss in thier books.... :_paranoid :lol:

redfire69
01-26-2010, 12:54 PM
... Screw the Pontiac guys, they did not respect it anyway. So i will put a LS in it and Bowtie emblem on the tail pan!

That's pretty funny! Guess it won't make HPP either, since those guys can't ever get over "corporate power"...even though the last pathetic pontiac motor waived by by in the 80's!

:cheers: